Comments by "Kong" (@Koushi82) on "vlogbrothers" channel.

  1. Shangori... A FEW THINGS WRONG. there are many weak immune systems that if you give vaccinations they will IN FACT GET EBOLA AND DIE. please look up what  VACCINES ARE first: Definition of Vaccines- A WEAKENED VIRUS of the particular strain -thus if the virus mutates the vaccine is useless weak immune system people SHOULD NOT GET VACCINES EVER unless the vaccine is weak enough for their immune systems. in fact vaccines are believed to infect 1% or so of the vaccine population every year 99% success rate but 1% would get infected from the disease and have complications. for those with weak immune systems and Ebola YOU WILL KILL THEM with such a vaccine. The best thing to do is to get  rid of the disease forever where possible. or to bottle up the antigens of those that recovered and killed the viruses to administer instead of the vaccine. the cure is-the body immune system producing the cure NOT the vaccine itself. people need to realize what vaccines actually do first as some actually think it is a cure. no it isn't it tries to make YOUR BODY produce the cure. IF YOUR BODY CANNOT YOU DIE. thus best thing to do is to boost your own immune system first not just taking a vaccine. you still need to be able to RECOVER FROM the vaccine as it makes you SICK FIRST then you recover from it. don't forget you are sick from ebola vaccine first thus 3-4 months NO SEX. else you will give others STD's as you are still INFECTED and lets see how many men and women can hold their chastity for that long in this sex driven society of ours? so if everyone gets vaccine no one can have sex for at least 3-4 months. unless of course they want to have the zombie Apocalypse. these ebola vaccines are extremely dangerous if not done correctly  thus word of warning to the vaccine manufactures before you clear the patients DNA test their male sperms and female eggs or their sexual fluids thank you.
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  2. CaptainKariii doctors without borders may be a good one to donate to. should be this one https://donate.doctorswithoutborders.org/onetime.cfm google them first and see if you like what they do. reason-they are doctors that go into Africa to treat patients. many times volunteered. they were the ones that first contracted ebola and came back to USA and other European countries. so getting them medical supplies may be very good.
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  3. you are missing the whole point. we are objecting the fact that some of you would FORCE us to get the vaccine when you know some of us would die from it but regardless you would rather us die to save yourselves instead of doing research first and assessing the risks then putting in some contingency plan. no one is preventing you from getting it all of you can go ahead but I will repeat do not force everyone to go get it. that will end in tragedy. it may not be reported on mass media much but those incidents cited do occur and are well under reported for all intents and purposes. So please do not step on the constitution anymore than many have already. if the airports were not taking ebola country tourists here from the start then we would be much less likely to have this problem anyway. I don't want to hear killing people for the greater good from people that cannot see the moral of banning flights going from ebola countries to here and letting people go there except they would need to ask for military assistance in quarantine to come back. there are definitely some over reactions from both sides. But if they even dare mandate the ebola vaccine then tptb cannot justify not at least banning flights. thus all of you cannot justify not banning flights if you mandate the vaccine as it was that notion of PC that got us here anyway. Killing the minority that did no wrong for the good of the majority that are wrong eh? well played, well played. I for one cannot accept that so called sense of justice from some of you. as it is plain evil. just saying let some opt out if they so choose.
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  4. Ayy I never said that willing people should not test them but they should not FORCE others to use them against their will. Some here are advocating killing people by FORCE not willingly or even giving them a choice. those that are more prone to death from vaccine should NOT take them they should have a choice. babies with low risk especially should NOT take them. if they it is inevitable then at least  I would recommend them to do it in SMALL DOSES to test for adverse reactions, and if it occurs then stop it immediately and have contingency plans. -to test the reaction: first then administer more doses to have an effect after verifying it would not harm them. it would be best to take extra blood samples and inject them with vaccines to test the response. but WAIT to actually save lives it would COST too much to administer and require ACTUAL WORK. OH NO WORK...and increased costs for safety...while some want to force people to get them... SO MY gripe about these people is that they haven't even tested and verified safety yet and people want to call for mass FORCED vaccinations of the people regardless if it kills them. SORRY We are not even high risk. Let those that want to go, go, but do not ask us to be lab rats thanks. Mass media's fault for increasing the stupidity of the people going into panic mode about ebola and not even shutting the borders like 90% of the world. and do not give me that BS about shutting the borders being bad because it really isn't and not morally bad even. we cannot help others if we are dead right? so many of you make no sense. And this is a moral argument. Shall we say CERTAIN PEOPLE want to force their ideals on others without their consent that will very well kill them in the process and they do not care. that is the problem.
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  5. acomputer121 so you admit that i made a good point but would not support it because the delivery is bad... that is not a good reason. if the point is valid then it should be supported. I do not like marketing in general as Obama and others in the media likes to. if that is your cup of tea then go ahead and delude yourselves but force vaccination on the population is not the answer. people have different bodies and vaccines react differently is the main point. if you force it on everyone that 1% that is forced to take it may very well die for the 99% where forced. we see it today already in those circumstances. point being everyone thinks the vaccines are a cure it all when it isn't. sorry it just isn't. and there are data that people are ignoring. -such as vaccines = weaker viruses -it will make you catch ebola in weakened form -you must quaruntine yourself for 42 days regardless after you take the vaccine. -you can still develop symptoms a bit weaker -you still must prevent yourself from having sex for 4 months after 42 days are up just in case. those MUST be tested before taking the vaccine. this should be forwarded to the vaccine manufacturing companies pronto before they force vaccinate everyone as they need to be TESTED first. their urgency for bad quality WILL make things much worse if they fail to address those concerns. as you already admitted it is necessary to address those points -the 1% that will get it and not recover need to also be addressed and how to deal with it. given the high fatality rates they need a contingency plan. 1% of 7 billion people is still 70 million people dead from the vaccine. Unlike the flu even healthy people can die from this. So 70 million at 50% fatality is 35 million dead from a bad untested vaccine and the manufacturing company has no liability where things go wrong... Sorry but it doesn't smell right. since ebola is so deadly: FORCED untested vaccination WILL in fact result in a major epidemic.
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  6. Clotho42: please do tell the recent flu vaccine deaths due to allergic reactions. viruses by definition are not living organisms they are somewhere in between so the term dead is incorrect logically. But you know what viruses are neither dead nor alive. they are only dormant they are just instructions when come into contact produce a reaction. so thus the term dead virus is highly misleading.  and merely used as an marketing tool to put people at ease. Unfortunately many don't know anything about science so they are easily fooled. it should be termed DISABLED virus rather than dead. the live reactionary virus are the nasal sprays as they use the term live virus for those. when in fact it is not even alive but it has more capabilities. it should really be termed disabled vs able viruses instead of dead/alive. and it is a fact that vaccines are in fact attributed to many deaths although much of it is under reported.  Do you not think vaccines cannot mutate at all? that's hogwash you know for a fact that there is a small % that vaccines have caused trouble to. if the ebola vaccine mutates then what? with this being so deadly it is in fact even more important to get it right the first time. and not skimp on testing. fast track? to death? I for one will not take it until they verify it themselves and the doctors take the shot and prove that it is completely safe. so dead viruses are not dead. call it DISABLED viruses. Please do not try to mislead me or others when we already know.   Vaccines are not 100% and there can be mutations as bacteria viruses mutate every single day. What makes you think vaccines cannot do so? It would be better to keep yourself 100% healthy to boost your own immune system to fight these viruses first. While containing the virus. NOT EVERYONE SHOULD GET THE VACCINE vaccinate high risk areas ONLY  -and only among healthy individuals. weak immune system people should not get the vaccine. - they need to be quarantined for 42 days and pledge no sex for 3-4 months if the sexual fluid contains the virus. -I want to see sexual fluid documentation as well proving it will not get there or the documentation on time frame when it is in fact safe or not. Until I see the documentation as proof I will not agree with the vaccine. I will stress again not everyone should be getting it especially when this is experimental.  Since this is such a deadly virus we must proceed carefully instead of just accepting such excuses.
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  7. Clotho42 just did google explain sids- sudden infant death syndrome http://thinktwice.com/sids.htm
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  8. Nice of you to have a girlfriend but when you get the vaccine since we wont know yet if your semen is safe just don't infect her thanks. We don't need the virus to spread further. Lets hope she knows not to touch you during that time. Anyway just don't even think about forcing everyone down your rabbit hole  thanks This whole argument against you Shangori is that you want to force your will on everyone to become your test subject. Sorry we are not your slaves. That was the whole reason why we are arguing against you.
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  9. Michael Keiso. -I have already addressed many of your points but because people refuse to read them and ignored them they failed to grasp it. points said as I have already said  do not force others to take the vaccine against their will. -they may have very good reasons to such as  allergic reactions and the vaccines are being developed right now. -some posters have said to force vaccinate people later on down the road against their will -that is the main argument and has been for quite a while. as some phrase that douche baggery of a person thinking they are doing good. -also we all mentioned to ban flights but many of you that would advocate force vaccination refuse to saying it does nothing when in fact it would actually still lower the chances without  force killing people as such. -notes: the 1% i mentioned in vaccination deaths is only a exaggeration but it is to get a point across that Moore's law: "accidents can and will happen" thus you need backup plans. -I also gave guidelines for the vaccine manufactures to test before rolling them out and ways to see test if someone has an allergic reaction first before administering the vaccine-takes more time but will save their lives.
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  10. first a few things- Squalene may not be the problem- reason why HM dickson may have brought it up was likely due to health controversy eg the wiki of squalene.so it seems to be anti tumor. for H1N1 http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/QuestionsaboutVaccines/ucm186102.htm The multi-dose formulation contains thimerosal, added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5 mcg of mercury. A single 0.5 mL dose of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine contains sodium chloride (4.1 mg), monobasic sodium phosphate (80 mcg), dibasic sodium phosphate (300 mcg), monobasic potassium phosphate (20 mcg), potassium chloride (20 mcg), and calcium chloride (1.5 mcg). From the manufacturing process, each dose may also contain residual amounts of sodium taurodeoxycholate (≤ 10 ppm), ovalbumin (≤ 1 mcg), neomycin sulfate (≤ 0.2 picograms [pg]), polymyxin B (≤ 0.03 pg), and beta-propiolactone (< 25 nanograms). The rubber tip cap and plunger used for the preservative-free, single-dose syringes and the rubber stoppers used for the multi-dose vial contain no latex. copy and paste end: so those are the ingredients.
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  11. Epi Ren also they have nasal sprays for vaccines those are said to be live cultures instead of completely dead- viruses cannot be dead so we should rephrase it to be disabled so these are weaker but active viruses  to be truthful vaccines maybe needed to be made per person as each person has a slightly different genetic makeup that may trigger an allergic reaction or such. and who says so called dead viruses cannot mutate in fact THEY CAN read this http://www.nature.com/news/mutations-explain-poor-showing-of-2012-flu-vaccine-1.14940 as such vaccines are NOT DEAD VIRUSES viruses CANNOT be dead as I have explained so many times thus they can in fact mutate. they may want to make a fairly cheap device that would screen a vaccine for authenticity first before administering them such that they know they would not mutate and see if someone would have an allergic reaction as well. if they can get that out of the way then we may have much less baby deaths from vaccination even though the FDA and others would not admit to it.
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  12. fine then read this as well: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/03/study-mutations-during-egg-step-cut-last-years-flu-vaccine-effectiveness their egg incubation for vaccines has been mutating btw. nice of you all to deny that point where I have been trying to tell all of you it. I doubt many have been reading the science journals though. quite unfortunate. Vaccines are NOT DEAD viruses- they should be labeled DISABLED viruses viruses by definition ARE NOT LIVING. they cannot be dead or alive. it is either ACTIVE OR INACTIVE. dead or alive is just a marketing ploy. definition of viruses http://faculty.clintoncc.suny.edu/faculty/michael.gregory/files/bio%20101/bio%20101%20lectures/Viruses/viruses.htm another defines vaccines http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines please read carefully on the chart it specifically says INACTIVATED/KILLED they were just dumbing it down it down for the population because you cannot technically kill a virus because it is not alive but you can disable it. Even the article itself refers to viruses as cannot be killed but it is INACTIVATED I do not want to argue with people that refuse to read science journals. thanks
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  13. Shangori thanks for admitting I was right all along. the fact is that you should not force others to do it. that was the whole point and argument. some of you would rather everyone be forced to get the vaccine than close the borders and send supplies over. there in lays the problem. and no it is not a conspiracy as I have pointed out. I have referenced articles and journals thus what is said is true. call it conspiracy if you want but it isn't as it is the truth the government and science journals have indicated. I have spread no lies. an over reaction is YOU ALL forcing others to take an UNTESTED VACCINE where we cannot sue the companies afterwards. that is my problem with your agenda. call it conspiracy theory if you want but Shangori you were the one whom suggested it now man up and apologize for asking others to be guinea pigs for untested drugs. But you have already garnered much support good politician... oh well then. those that will go can go do it but do not ask others not willing. I can complain even more like the nurse about her quarantine if you want. most do not even care to read science journals also I try to absorb information from both sides and assess the truth of each one. if it makes sense I will humor the notion and investigate if it is false I will throw it out and vice versa. I posted and commented coughing and sneezing can transmit it and CDC finally admits as such and other Dr's agree no? point being tell the truth instead of downplaying or hyping it. But then we wont have any stories right? or that people cannot handle the truth? also get the nurses their hazmat suits already as they have requested and were protesting for. they still don't all have it. That;s why Craig Spencer's hospital have nurses calling in sick so they would not need to care for him. They do not have all the EQ. Solve that problem first before forcing experimental chemicals against the people's will. As you do not know how likely the mutations will occur or not. People keep saying I am wrong even though I have medical journals to back them up... good bye I think I am done with this thread.
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