Comments by "Nigel Johnson" (@nigeljohnson9820) on "Poll for UK newspaper finds large numbers want another Brexit vote" video.
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@Britannia. after forty years of the eu making the UK dependent upon it, did you really think leaving was going to be easy. The UK lost control of its industrial standards, it lost huge sectors of industry, largely because the eu provided a prop to keep up the appearance of growth.
The UK went along with the rediculus notion that Russia could be trusted to provide its energy needs in an almost just in time fashion.
The funmental flaw is the myth that what is good for one member state is good for all. Since the states all have separate economies and taxation systems, moving industries for one state to another is NOT a zero sum gain.
Deindustralising the UK in favour of Spain or Portugal, is not the same as moving an industry between counties of the UK. It was a UK loss.
Another fallacy of UK eu membership, was that the UK would earn its living from international banking, services and construction. The former made a lot of money for the very few, and when thing went wrong the UK tax payer was left to pick up the bill. The latter two are parasitic industries, that actually do not create any real wealth. So the UK really could not afford to remain inside the eu any longer than it did, it was already funding its living expenses from debt, having little left of value to sell.
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@edwardbrady5843 are you completely stupid. The way the eu keeps itself together is by setting up codependency. That is why supp.y lines stretch across Europe. It's why fruit from the far side of the eu is cheaper in the supermarkets than the same fruit grown in the local area.
It is why the UK was forced buy eu rules to buy steel from other member states. The UK government dutifully obeyed the eu rules and directives, destroying UK industry. The UK has forty years of this destruction, now you wonder why the UK is struggling to compete.
If the UK was the poor man of Europe when it joined, why did it end up paying one of the highest membership fees.
Before you point the economic boom, associated with eu membership, you should know that this was funded by the sale of uk assets and by every increasing debt. The whole of the UK economy, during that period was based on smoke and mirrors, and creative accounting.
The health of the UK economy was judged by how many houses it could, (using imported raw materials), and how well we could sell expensive imports to each other. It was the service and banking industry that boomed, neither of which are productive, neither of which actually increased the wealth of the country.
Did you really think that the UK could recover for a forty plus year long parasitic infection so quickly. It was always going to be painful, even without the cost of the covid pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
We have had decades of lazy ineffective government, that was happy to live off the profits from the sale of tax payer assets, gas, electric generation and distribution, rail, airports, ports. The list is long. Is it a surprise to you that the UK is struggling to make a profit, when so much of value in the UK is now foreign owned, and the profits are exported offshore, never to return to the UK economy. Successive UK government's have failed to understand that foreign investment is bad for the economy. By definition, a foreign investor expects to take out more than they put in. UK industries than are not foreign owned have been destroyed. The UK imports most of its electronics, computers, telecommunication equipment. Industrial machinery. How do you think these things are paid for, where does the money come from?
EU rules have destroyed output farming industry. The government did not object, because rich land owners, many sitting in the house of lords, got a nice income from the eu farming subsidy.
What we are suffering now, is the effect of decades of government mismanagement, assisted by EU membership. Rejoining the eu will not fix this, it will only make it worse.
The EU will not allow the troublesome, poor, UK to rejoin. It wants the UK as a vassal state. Something it can further exploit. Those in government wanting to rejoin, are looking for someone else to bail them out. They will be disappointed, as the eu has allowed the UK to be sucked dry. Do you really think they will allow the UK to join, when it is likely to be a net beneficiary from the eu funds? Not a chance.
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@edwardbrady5843 if the UK was the sick man of Europe, why was its economy seen as so strong that it needed to be the third largest contributed to the eu budget? Why was it not a net recipient of development funds. Can you deny that the UK funded its living costs from the sale of assets?
There was not a boom period in the eu, it was just a time why the UK was allowed to borrow on the basis of its past credit rating. It was eu rules that made it so easy for UK assets to be sold.
If you want to know why the UK was so sick when it joined the eu, it must be remembered that it was still paying of its WWII debts, and has failed to renew its industrial equipment. Much of uk industry was still using pre war equipment well, into the 1960 and beyond.
You are clearly deluded into being a europhile. The eu is corrupt, that has recently been demonstrated. It's federalist ambitions have been temporarily halted by the war in Ukraine, but they will continue to grind on, as it is essential for the eu's financial survival. They have not given up on having a federal government, but their plans for expansion have met the reality of the need for NATO protection. The EU is still an evil organisation, it's just that the much greater evil of Putin's Russia has overshadowed it, and highlighted its weakness.
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