Comments by "Nigel Johnson" (@nigeljohnson9820) on "UK farmers face uncertainty as parliament prepares to vote on deal | #GME" video.

  1. UK farmers should not fear leaving the EU without a deal. WTO rules should make imports more expensive, making home grown more competitive on the home market. This is good for a number of reasons: Farm products , particularly animal will not need to be transported over long distances. The UK will become far more self sufficient in food, with the opertunity for UK farms to expand to supply the local market. Imports from the EU will be greatly reduced, saving the country money. Given that we pay more into the EU than we get back. There is no reason why farm subsidises will be reduced, they could be increased and better targeted, as the EU will not be the one deciding where the money is spent.
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  2.  @logik100.0  ever wondered why we are a net importer or why we have an £80billion annual trade deficit with the EU. Any idea how the UK is going to fund this deficit if it continues. Brexit is absolutely necessary to rebalance the UK economy. We know this is the case or it would have already happened while a member of the EU.
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  3.  @logik100.0  I live in the fens and watched productive farm land sold to build housing estate. The local super markets no sell EU produced fruit and vegetables that were once grown locally. The value of local farm land devalued by tariff free import from far across the EU. The farmers objecting to brexit are taking a very myopic view. If we remain in the EU farming will slowly be eroded away, as it has done over the past forty years. I acknowledge hat some produce cannot be grown in the current UK climate, these are the only produce we should consider importing. The future in the EU is an impoverished nation covered in shabby housing estates with all the remaining green field covered in concrete. The UK simply cannot afford to remain in the EU and maintain the current trade deficit.
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  4.  @mrspone1000  do you not understand that you are on a downward spiral. It is only a matter of time before you are out of business. We have already lost too much farm land to concrete. You cannot have it both ways, either we do not produce sufficient food, in which case why are we exporting food. Or we produce sufficient for our needs. If we are exporting and still do not produce sufficient for our selves then we are producing the wrong food.
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  5.  @logik100.0  the UK EU deficit is a matter of public record. The change in land use is all around me in the fens. My farther owned a business dealing with local farmers and farms. None of the farms he felt with still exist, the land is no longer farm land. Other details of the damage that the EU has done to the UK USA matter of public record. I do not keep copies of all have read in forming my opinions, do you?
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  6.  @logik100.0  I am not a border, the very opposite, this makes it difficult to argue in these post as I cannot away immediately produce the FACTs that I used to form my opinion. You should consider why a business ceases to be viable. You want facts, the current relationship with the EU is not viable, it is slowly putting the UK into debt. The UK cannot sustain a £80 billion a year trade deficit. To fix this it is necessary to export more and import a lot less. This is difficult to do when your trading partner is setting the rules. Your ignorance of history is blinding you to what is possible. You are like the brain damaged people who have amnesia and cannot form new memories. You believe what you have been told because you have no memories of your own. EU membership has proved toxic for the UK, like some recreational drug, the EU has made some parts of the UK feel good for a short time, but the cumulative effect on the whole of the UK has been negative, and before you say where's you proof, consider the last forty years of membership with the slow destruction of UK industry and it's growing dependence on debt. Some farmers may be doing well out of EU regulation and the CAP. But what about all the others who have been forced to give up. It is a nonsense if you believe importing fruit and vegetables from Europe is better than growing our own. The fens were once a source of pears, apples, strawberries, carrots, cabbage, potatoes, among many other fruits and vegetables. Now the local out of town super market, built on productive farmland, sells the same but imported from France, Italy and Portugal, to name but a few. All this stuff, cost the country as the money is exported into Europe rather than remain in the UK economy. To be successful, it must first meet its own demand and then export the surplus. Now you will say this is a UK government problem, which is partly true, however the EU have facilitated bad management of the UK economy. We cannot continue to do what we have been doing and expect something to change.
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  7.  @mrspone1000  according to an interview with a farmer's representative on the BBC today. The reason we do not produce sufficient food is because we are not allowed too, we are limited by EU quotas. While I cannot verify this it seems likely, as EU policy is to foster co-dependence between states in order to bind them together. It is one of the reasons why industrial supply chains are spread across the continent. It is clearly not efficient to transport components back and forth over great distances as the parts are assembled. As I have pointed out before, it does not help uk farming productivity to have so much productive farm land buried under concrete, a process that has been going on for years. The UK needs the ability to protect its home markets and the farmers that supply them. This is not possible while the UK is in the EU, where farmers are told what they are allowed to produce, typical example is sugar. I am really not interested in providing benefits to French or Italian farmers. The UK needs to only buy what it cannot produce. If, as you say, UK farmers cannot produce all the UK eats, then all UK farm production should supply the local market first. This at least would reduce the amount we import. There is a very good chance that climate change is going to shake up the farming industry over the next few years, far more than brexit ever will. The important point is that the UK economy must be rebalanced to bring it back into profit. This is only possible outside the EU, if it were otherwise we would have already done it.
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  8.  @mrspone1000  but it has already been said that we are exporting food from UK farms. Why are we exporting food when we do not have enough for the home market? You cannot have it both ways. If we are short of farm land, why are we allowing productive farm land to be used for housing? I must assume you are dense if you do not understand this.
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  9.  @mrspone1000  the eu have limited the amount of sugar the UK is allowed to produce.
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  10.  @mrspone1000  you were the one who replied to my post, so all you need do is shut up.
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