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Comments by "Nigel Johnson" (@nigeljohnson9820) on "Social media users react to Brexit deal debate | #TheCube" video.
The government has been told to take no deal off the table; however, if there is not a deal that will be passed by parliament, the default is a no deal brexit. Labour has won an pyrrhic victory, as the EU is forcing a no deal brexit by refusing to remove the backstop from the brexit agreement. It is difficult to see what the EU has to gain by refusing to remove the backstop. If the UK leaves without a deal there will not be a backstop or any of the other conditions included in the brexit agreement. That includes the payment of the £39billion divorce bill.
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Barnier must make clear what the EU will do with regard to the Irish border in the event of a no deal brexit. Either he must impose a border in Ireland or adopt alternative arrangements. If it's the former he is a hypocrite, if it's the latter then why is this not in the brexit agreement in place of the backstop?
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@snowyowel7961 the EU will be forced to address the problem if the UK leaves without a deal. The EU is using the border issue to try and force the UK to remain in the customs union. This is likely to be a tactical error as they are forcing a no deal brexit.
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@HungarianParagon yes you are correct, my android spell checker changed the word at the point of posting. The EU must explain what it intends to do with regard to the Irish border in the event of a no deal brexit. No deal will be difficult for the UK, however it will be difficult for the EU, given exports to the UK will fall dramatically and EU assets in the UK will suffer. The EU has miscalculated, if it thinks the UK is not willing to leave without a deal. The political elite may not want it, but it is not a view shared by the people.
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@declanflanagan4432 both the UK and the RoI have confirmed that they have no intention of implementing a hard border in Ireland. The UK has a sovereign right to leave the EU. Neither the RoI or the EU have the right to veto the UK leaving the EU. The question is what is the EU going to do about the Irish border in the event of a no deal brexit. Either the EU is going to impose a border on Ireland, or between Ireland and the rest of the EU, or the EU has a plan for alternative arrangements, as Barnier has suggested. The question is what is the alternative arrangement. The EU seem very reluctant to explain. If there is an alternative arrangement, why has it not been used to replace the backstop? Could it be that the alternative arrangement is politically inconvenient, as it one remove the need for the UK to remain in the EU customs union?
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@declanflanagan4432 the UK and the RoI have been members of the EU for a considerable time, yet the EU have failed to see investigate these allegations. This says something about the EU. The RoI has provided tacit support for the iRA and it's bombing campaign in NI and the rUK. Terrorist linked to bomb attacks have repeatedly sought shelter in the RoI. A recent bomb attack in NI confirms the IRA have not put their weapons beyond reach. A statement from those responsible for the bomb attack states that it is not linked to brexit in any way. This implies the IRA are restarting their campaign, so why should the UK government honour the GFA, if it has no impact on peace in Ireland. In fact, if the IRA are going to start bombing again, this makes a good case for closing the border. The actions of the IRA are clearly counter productive as any support for Irish reunification in NI is likely to evaporate with each new attack and it is only a vote in NI can trigger the reunification process. Though I doubt if either the EU or the RoI will want to unite with a NI ridden with new political and violent divisions. Are you going to claim that MI5 aided the IRA in carrying out these recent bomb attacks? With regard to sending bombers to the Hague, there is a level of hypocrisy in these comments, as those IRA members involved in the last violent episode sought protection of a GFA amnesty.
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@declanflanagan4432 the good Friday agreement said nothing about trapping the UK in the EU, had it done so it would not have been ratified by the UK parliament, any more than the backstop. Both the UK and the RoI have repeatedly stated they have no intention of not honouring the GFA. It is the EU that is using it in an attempt to trap the UK in a customs union. By definition, the UK will not have left the EU if it remains constrained by the EU customs union, following EU directives and under the jurisdiction got the ECJ. Your comments should be addressed to the EU, since they have already indicated that they will not be erecting a border in Ireland in the event of a no deal brexit. This implicitly indicates that the EU has a plan for alternative arrangements to a hard border. At the moment, the most likely way we will discover the details of this plan is when the UK leaves without a deal.
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@declanflanagan4432 that is going to make it interesting when the EU is forced to break the GFA.
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@declanflanagan4432 IRA bombing would be very counter productive. The justification for supporting the GFA is based on keeping the peace. If the IRA breaks the GFA by starting a bombing campaign, there is no point in supporting the GFA. The IRA has issued a statement that the recent bombing is not related to brexit, supporting the above arguement. It is very unlikely that either the EU or the RoI will welcome reunification with a politically and violent North. In his case the IRA are playing into he UK governments hands, well done IRA.
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@declanflanagan4432 no the best the EU can hope for is a Canada plus deal, without a backstop. At the moment, the most likely outcome is a no deal brexit, the result of the article 50 time expiring. The EU will be forced to implement plans for the Irish border, what ever they are and the EU Scrabbling to save its £80 billion export trade with the UK. The UK will refuse to pay the £39 billion divorce bill and the EU will spend years trying to recover it by taking the UK to some international court or other. One thing is for sure, it won't be the ECJ, because the UK will not be under its jurisdiction. If the UK government chickens out, their will be a second referendum, as only this can reverse the result of the first. Whatever the result of this, it will be a win for the leave side.
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@declanflanagan4432 interesting that the EU are willing to risk the EU market integrity, when a no deal brexit leaves the EU border open in ireland. What a joke.... Of course the EU is going to throw Ireland under a bus inorder to save money and protect the rest of the EU single market, how else are they going to address the problem of an open border in Ireland?
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@declanflanagan4432 interesting the IRA have decided to make the GFA irrelevant now. As for Irish jobs, most of them come from the US and UK companies. I wondern if the EU are going to replace the £20 billion a year the UK pays for NI. I doubt it. There is little chance that labour will be elected in the UK, particularly under Corbyn leadership. Far more likely is that a far right euro sceptic government will replace the currently divided Tory party. What will happen is that the remain Tories will lose their seats in parliament. The EU is going to need to work very hard to stop something similar happening in the EU parliament.
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