Comments by "" (@billyandrew) on "Masks and Fines are BACK 😷 But are They Legally Enforceable? 👩⚖️👨⚖️👮♀️" video.
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@hairychris21
Unless you are a part of their medical team you have no right, by law, to challenge anyone for not wearing a mask, as government guidelines clearly state.
Even the police cannot demand evidence.
Granted, they can arrest on suspicion, however, only the court and your medical team are entitled to sort out the legal/medical conundrum.
Confronting someone could quite easily be construed as a hate crime on the grounds of victimising someone because of their medical condition, be that a physical problem, a mental health problem or both.
Unfortunately, an altruistic concern on behalf of society isn't going to cut the mustard in court, who will likely see it as bestowing unauthorised authority on yourself to the extent of causing mental distress to others.
Victimisation, basically.
Like the matter of self defence, it can only be used when all other options, such as walking away, via an obvious means of escape, if one is present, rather than going on the attack is not open to you.
Talking of attack, you'd also be well advised to remember knife crime is rife and rising in the UK.
I wonder if you approach groups of those not wearing masks?
Being sliced and diced isn't such a remote possibility, unfortunately.
Some would be only to happy to send you to your maker just for the fun of it or because they don't like others poking their noses in.
I'd be more concerned about dying at an irate, possibly even psychotic person or group's hands than catching a virus that affects only a small minority of folk and proves fatal to a far smaller group, still.
Just a thought...
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@philt5782
Your son is covered by governmental guidelines, which clearly and categorically state that nobody, the police included, can demand proof of his exemption!
The police may unlawfully demand and possibly might arrest, if they're ignorant of the guidelines, however, advising them to contact their desk sargeant should quickly sort out the issue.
Should it progress beyond that stage, it would then have to be resolved between your son's medical professional/s and the court, should the duty sargeant and his superiors be equally ignorant, but even then, said professional/s would not be required to provide details other than that your son is exempt.
It would be worth your while, I think, to consider visiting the government website and download, or add to your phone's screen, the relevant section pertaining to mask exemptions and the guidelines everyone must follow, regardless of how much self invested authority they may believe they have.
Merely showing the guidelines to anyone should suffice, should you feel so inclined to school them.
Also, exemptions can be found in both digital and card form on the NHS website.
You do not need to produce those on demand, unless you wish to employ them for self confidence in your legal standing or to reassure anyone else.
Me, I play it by ear.
I explain, upon entering anywhere requiring masks, that I have an exemption.
If they're courteous I'll show them the card.
If not they get shown the guidelines and threatened with legal action, if they show hostility, which has only happened twice in the two years this has been going on.
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@dlevi67
You obviously haven't read govt guidelines.
Nobody, the police included, are entitled to demand you prove you are exempt.
There's no ambiguity about the wording.
It's just another means whereby the civil courts raise revenues, through their footsoldiers, the police officers, as opposed to police constables, sergeants, etc, who conform to Common Law, as they are not supposed to involve themselves in civil matters.
Enough folk were challenging the lawfulness (not the legality, which is a civil proceeding) that the CPS realised they were on an upcoming hiding-to-nothing and stood to go bankrupt in ensuing claims against them.
The police officers (civil) were facing the same threat, so the remaining 99% of the cases were thrown out.
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@kevgall12
The virus was airborne from the beginning.
Most governments knew this, but neglected too mention to the public for obvious reasons.
That became public knowledge in Bob Woodward's interview with Trump, when he admitted the fact.
Oddly, research was done on height at one point and it was decided anyone over five ten was more likely to contract the virus, I kid you not.
I believe, on that basis, that most of us caught the first variant and, like the 'flu' virus, it wasn't strong enough to get hold of our immune systems.
You'll notice it's plural and not singular, as we aren't limited to just one immune system, as many mistakenly believe.
Anyway, like 'flu', at least to my mind, we shrugged it off, not even noticing it's presence in our bodies.
The next variant was a little tougher and so on, as variants mutated and increased.
Every time our body fights any type of infection it takes a minute sample to store for future defensive reference.
I'm guessing that with some folk, such as yourself, you've been exposed to too many variants and temporarily succumbed, while your immune systems came up with the perfect defense and back to firing on all cylinders, hence the longish recuperation period.
Some like myself, have strange immune systems.
I contracted undiagnosed TB, as a seven year old and spent about twelve weeks battling what my famy and GP assumed was the 'flu'.
I've never caught anything else, before or since, no colds, flu, mumps, measles etc, etc.
I can't catch any variant of hepatitis, nor can I be a carrier.
I've been exposed to cov-19 through one next door neighbour and also a friend, been tested and shown to be all clear in both cases.
Some folk are susceptible to viruses on first contact, while others are infected at second, third, fourth exposure or more.
Some folk, only a small minority, get the flu every year, while and even smaller minority of those that catch it actually die as a consequence.
I don't see this virus as much different, although it's lethality rate is slightly higher, there's no denying that fact, however...
Oh, I never get hangovers.
A great selling point when job hunting, but a pain, as you can't phone work and take a few days off with an imaginary cold or the flu.
Lol.
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With an exemption, if refused entry or transit, I remind them that discrimination on medical grounds is illegal and liable to involve governmental departments, charities and court appearances.
Government guidelines clearly state nobody, including the police, is/are entitled to demand proof of exemption, however, it's wise to produce such for court examination.
I also have the governmental link stating the rules surrounding the subject, which can be very persuasive.
Being obtuse is not an offence, nor is pointing out the doctor/patient confidentiality aspect of the hypocratic oath, providing you have no objections to the court approaching your specialist or GP, who only need confirm you have medical reason for mask exemption without going into detail.
I find being firm, but polite, works best.
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@1988dgs
I see my name, part way down, in your comment, but your direct reply does not have my name preceding it and appears to be directed towards a string of random numbers and words.
Incidently, I didn't 'answer' your initial comment, as it wasn't directed at me, rather, I responded.
Just thought I'd reassure you I am not a bot and to also point out, as stated in my last comment, you have killed others, albeit unwittingly, because of the very fact you were breathing and the virus was airborne, which you were obviously unaware of, seeing as research and yourself aren't exactly on nodding terms.
As to how many I've killed, by breathing, well, that's anyone's guess.
We're all plague carriers, basically.
The thing to remember is they would likely have died of the 'flu' anyway.
The 'flu', if it kills, only does so to those with an underlying condition, whether it was diagnosed or undiagnosed and cov19 is no different in that respect.
It's one of the ways nature culls humans, picking off the weak.
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