Comments by "jorge luis barrios mur" (@jorgebarriosmur) on "Why did the Caliphate of Cordoba Collapse?" video.

  1. I am sure, the rural population from that period (most of the people where farmes) noticed ABSOLUT NO CHANGE after beeing "liberated" by the cristians. Just earlier the people who take the fruit of their labor worshiped the half moon, and now they worshiped the cross........the rest of their life (miserable, brutal, full of pain, and short) continued as normal......yeah, fantastic "liberation"
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  2. Ejem......Acording to muslim sources, it was more some guerrilla action and ambushes, and a siege to the cave-sistem where the astur-visigothic alliance of Pelayo seeked for refuge and sufered hunger and desease till only 30 of them where alive and muslims comand decided they where no longer a threat worth the effort........ Of course, muslims chronicles where not neutral......but the chrstians wheren´t also.........so I seriously doubt that it was a "heroic battle where 300 defeated thousends....." The truth, is probably lost somewhere in the middle of all this propaganda.
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  3. for some decades.......
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  4.  @miguelangelgonzalez1831  There is no such evidence aside from crhistian cronicles, written long after the suposed battle. The muslim chronicles tell us another story. The retreat of muslim forces from the cantabric coast could be for multiple reasons , for example that this was a poor zone, with bad comunications and a hostile population, compared to other zones of northern hispania or the north of the pirinees......Why do you choose to belive blindly the christian chronicles.....and not the muslims, if I can dare to ask? Do you belive , too, that Saint "Santiago Matamoros" descended from heaven to fight side by side with the christians in the batlle of Clavijo? Because this is said in christian chronicles too, and if you belive them blindly......... The fact that the battle of Covadonga probably wasn´t a proper batlle , and more a guerrilla resistance against the invader does not mean that the astur-visigothik band that choosed to resist against all odds instead of surender was less brave.
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  5.  @mappingshaman5280  And you know this because you know the whole life of "pelayo", yes? We don´t know how he was....perhaps he was an evil murderer, that comanded throug fear and behaved more like a bandit to the local population than a fighter against an invasion......WE DON´T KNOW. Perhaps "Pelayo" didn´t even exist, and is ony a mith, based on the actions of several poeple (like robin hood). Al we know, for sure, is that a band of visigoth and astures seeked refuge in the cantabric mountains and decided to make life hard for the invaders rather than surrender. 150 years later, somebody decided to write a fairy-tale about something he had no clue about, because it fit his cause. Believing in christian chronicles about "covadonga" is like believing the tales of Robin Hood are history.......
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  6. In school, we where tought, that muslim rulers of the peninsula (the emirate, the caliphate, and later the amloravides and the almohades) where capable of mantaining a strong and resitant state, as long as they could mantain control over the gold- and slavetrade in northern africa. Once they loosed this income they lacked the resources they needed to control internal (local wanabe-emirates) and external (northern christians) threats to their dominion.
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  7. No, they where not. They COULD temporarly unite in the face of a major thread, but ones this passes, they had no problem killing and plundering their christian neighbor.......and making alliances with their islamic neighbor, if they thougt they could gain any advantage with it.....
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