Comments by "thewaytruthandlife" (@thewaytruthandlife) on "9.999... really is equal to 10" video.

10 -1 =9 10-0,1 = 9,9 10-0,01 = 9,99 10 - 0,001 = 9,999 10 - 0,0001 = 9,9999 etc if 9,9999999..... was 10 exactly then this procedure (which can also go on for ever) should never delivere a difference. so NO 9,999999.... is NOT 10.... for the same toke I can say: 9 - 1 = 8 9 - 0,1 =8,9 9 - 0,01 =8,99 9 - 0,001 = 8,999 etc .... so for the same reason I can argue that 9,9 -0,1 = 9,8 9,99 -0,01 = 9,98 9,999 - 0,001= 9,998 9,9999 - 0,0001 = 9,9998 etc or 9,9999999......... = 9,9999999....8 if that is true then I can also argue that 10 = 5 or 4 or 3 or 2 or 1 or even 0 and -20 so no 1/3 is 0,3333333333...... but that results in 3 * 1/3 = 1 and NOT 0,9999999999.... because that is what you started with.... 1 divided by 3 so multiplying 1/3 MUST be 1 again....and NOT 0,99999999.....
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1/3 = 0,33333333333333333333..... etc now 3* (1/333333333333......) = 1 and NOT 0,999999999999999999999999999999....... because you start with: 1 divided by: 3 So if one multilplies 1/3 by 3 times the end result MUST be: 1 again since THAT is what you started with..... and NEVER 0,9999999999999999999.... because THAT is NOT what you started with.....you see it is NOT 0,999999999..... / 3 it is 1 / 3 get it ??
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@Chris_5318 it has noting to do with believe... there is no religious statement in mathematics. if 0,999... = 1 why then not work with 0,999 instead of 1 al the time....???makes no sense.
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@Chris_5318 correct but is that exactly the same as 1/3 ????? stricktly spoken no ! 1 is NOT 0,99999999.... IF so then for the same reason; 0,9999999.......998 would be the same as 0,999999999...... and we can carry this proces on untill 1= 0,12232526293746593 and that is silly.... it would mean that 2 = 489876543 etc. 1=1 and 0,99999....... = 0,999999.... if one starts to doubt that then where is the end ????of this reasoning ???
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@Chris_5318 1-0.9 = 0,1 1-0.99= 0,01 1-0.999= 0.001 1-0.9999=0.0001 1-0,99999 = 0.00001 etc so 1 - 0.99999999.....= 0.0000.....0001 into infinity seemingly there is ALWAYS a remainder into infinity..... therefor 1 is NOT 0,9999..... ontop of that: 0,9*0,9 = 0,81 0.99*0.99 = 0.9801 0.999*0.999= 0.998001 0.9999*0.9999 =0.99980001 etc. according to you folks this would be NOT true so basically now you are already saying: that 1*1 =1 and that 0,9999.... * 0.9999.... = 1 while its obviously NOT !!!! and you are indeed also claiming that 0,999....* 0,999..... = 0,999....98000....001 so basically you are indeed saying 1 = 0,9999..... = 0,9999....998000... 0001 thats an icy sliding slope to saying 32 = -590965567898 so you stay on your version of planet earth I prefer to remian on the new heaven and new earth....
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@Chris_5318 then again I ask you: what is 0,9999......x 0,99999..... ???? and 0,9999......x 0,99999..... x 0,99999 ???? etc ??? since 0,9x0,9 = 0,81 0,99x0,99 = 0,9801 etc and 0,9999999^2 = 0,99999980000001 so (0,999999.....)^2 MUST have an 8 somewhere in the line no matter how maony 9's you squeeze in.... therefor 0,9999 is NOT 1 It approaches 1 agreed but is IS NOT 1 .
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@Chris_5318 now we both agree on 1x1 = 1 right ???... so in your opinion 0,9999....x 0,9999... shoudle be 1 right ? then you are saying also: 1 = 0,999...99800...0001 because 0,999...x0,999 = 0,999...99800...0001 and also 1 = 0,999 ...99700... 000299999.... since 0,9999x0,9999 = 0,999700029999 well stretch that out to infinity then you run into a problem. you see 1x1 is still 1 and not 0,999....no matter what who ever says... now 1 is according to you: 1= 0,999...9996000...005999...99996 since 0,9999x=0,9999 = 0,999600059996 so stretch that into infinity you again runinto the same problem. well 1x1x1x1 = still 1 100% of the times and not 0,999...9996000...005999...99996 iyt should NOT matter to which power 1 is raised it should always be 1 always... now one cannot do that with 0,999.... basically that is saying that 8765678 = 6543 its a icy slope to nonsense.
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9,99999..... is indeed 10 On the strickt condition that it goes on eternaly and doesnt end.....mathematically spoken physically spoken it has no meaning since there is most probably a smallest physical unite below which ... distance has no meaning any more and IF science is correct, that limit is met at ONLY the level of 10^-35 meters which is close to gigantic mathematically spoken since mathematically numbers can go on forever in all eternities to far far far smaller dimensions.... so we can clearly see that math and physics only match in the range of 10^200 down to 10^-40 out side of that, physics has close to no meaning anymore.
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@Chris-5318 man thats a very philosophical deep statement you make and you may be right.... OK let me think/ponder about that for a while....
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@Chris-5318 I thought of it but it is not entirely true what you say,..... let me explain ..... You are 1 individual person. You live in 1 house. Now we are talking this requires at least 1 and 1 person so that is defined as 2 persons. I am living in a house as well so there are 1 and 1 or differently defined 1 + 1 = 2 houses. I could go on and on but you catch my drift, I hope.... you see in physical reality there are units of similar objects... and we defined a unite that as 1 now more units of something leads to counting and math... addition subtraction etc and multiplication... representing somephysical reality.... agreed we could have defined it differently and over History that has happend also... remember the Roman way of numbering I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX and X etc. but the idea remains the same..... since you are a person... we could also have defined it as "a" and I am aperson so "aa" etc a definition can change but the meaning of the definition cannot change.... since we are talking about the same concept of a unit.... no matter what name you give it/define it.... so I tend to disagree with you....
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@Chris-5318 well agina I tend to disagree with you since math was actually invented over time due to physical issues in relaity.... like howm much ground do i sell to my neighbour or howmany cows/goats chicken... and how many chicken to I need to valuate my cow.... THAT is how math got started ... and NOT by the people who pondered later on this issue like peano, Russles or Feynman NO long long long before these people came physical reality was expressed in numbers to solve physical issues... money is one example weighing food or liquids..... all physical thikngs that needed math and thus numbers.... so No i do cannot agree with you later on it became mor philosopphical ans with these people you mentioned but that is NOT how numbers and math got started.... so I cannot agree with you.... sorry... no matter how generous you want to be with me.... and is you take a sand stone of 10 kilo's and you chip off 1 sandgrain it still feels 10 kilo eventhough it is 9,9999999999..... kilo's catch my drift
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@Chris_5318 still do not agree with you in total only partially.... If numbers do NOT have physical meaning you would NOT be alive... be happy that numbers do have physical meing even in the modern sense of the word like the mass of an electron, proton, Pi, e etc etc etc etc all numbers that keep coming back in modern day science and determine you being alife at all.... and yes agreed IF you chip oof 1 sand grain it is indeed 9,999999 kilo's BUT you hardly notice it in lifting it up. so from your point of view nothing fell of .. its still feels the same.... like 10 unites of a kilo an no Newton was NOT wrong... he was slightly OFF we STILL use Newtons F=GMM/r^2 that is STILL being used in 90-99% of the cases for the DETAILS newton is no longe adequate... but where it doesnt matter too much it is still used. so he wasnt wrong for the majority of cases. newton was wrong from more detailed cases... like the mercury orbits.... even Einsteins formulas do also convert to Newtons law in 90-99% of the cases. only in more extreme cases Newton doesnt apply in all details. kilograms is both physics and math since it is a unit... and yeah 999 gr of matter and 1 gram of antimatter is still 1000 grams woldnt put them together though but its still 1000 gr. the composition doesnt matter. 1000 gr of matter anti matter is still 1000 gr To some extend I agree with you that there is a limit to where math describes physics... and beyond those limits math and physics do no longer agree with eachother.... I fully agree BUT !! within these limits it perfectly matches physics.... as it should.... and these limits are about 10^100 to 10^200 down to 10^-40 to 10^-60 beyond that pure math indeed takes over agreed... and has no match in physical reality....as I have said so from the beginning
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@Chris_5318 1 head + 999 other parts of your body form one whole body. 1 could not do without the others. Just kidding.... seriously: 1 is a unit 999 represents 999 other units in a set that, brought together, "+" delivers "=" a set of 1000 units so it is talking about units being brough together giving a final result. bringing together "+" is a physical action and result "=" is also a physical action ... counting. or multiplication: counting of sets 5 of 10 units is 1 set of 50 units being brought together to form a new set. I have 5 train loads of 10 cars and I bring them to the sales departmentment and park them on their parking lot to compose 1 set of 50 cars... ready to be sold...
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@Chris_5318 why would it NOT apply to antimatter ??? If NOT physicists are not able to make it, but they are..... as long as they keep it separate from matter... they can make as much antimatter as they like and physically they already do so... slowely buit they do it non the less.... they are makng the stuff right as we speak at CERN but agreed you have to keep the stuff away from regular matter but for the rest is has the same or close to the same properties as matter 1 mole of anti hydrogen antimatter atoms weigh also the same as 1 mole of normal matter of hydrogen atoms... why ??? because of conservation of energy a energetic gamma ray must equally splity in exactly half (thus 2 times the same amount...hihihhihihihihihih) to created 1 matter and 1 antimatter hydrogen nucleus.... same goes for the electrons anti electrons....
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@Chris_5318 agreed 1/X^2 is NOT invented for gravity BUT for a whole range of physical things static electicity in talylor series whci includes the definition or calculation of e polynomials and so on and so on. You see math and physics go hand in hand, 1 cannot do without the other.... as has been found over and over and over again.... even in very unexpected ways. physics drives math and math drives physics... But again there are regions in which math get released from physics as I told you before where the boundaries of physics are being met... at 10^200 down to 10^-60 some where. well that is 260 orders of magnitudes.... after that math is indeed pure math ... as far as we know NOW ... who knows that changes in the future...
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@Chris-5318 well yeah math was invented to meet naturalistic things people ran into... but I do also agree with you that in our modern days it got more detached from physics and physical things as well... so my standpoint is that BOTH points are correct its not 100% yours alone.... its not 100% mine either its some where in the middle.... Like I said before it is a hand in hand process one cannot do with the other and visa versa... many times new math had to be invented to explain physical phenomena and many times math has pointed the ways in physics.... so both points of views rise up equally... you cannot say that your point of view is 100% correct.... neither can I the truth with respect to this issue lays some where in the middle....
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@Chris-5318 No my friend, I do NOT entirely agree only partially and history backs me up.... physices needs math and math needs physics.. agreed not in all matters but what you see is that math always refers back to physical reality.... what els would be the use of math anyhow.... so it is a hand in hand prosess.... what would be the use of 100% pure math without any practical applications ???? what is the use of infinite more digits to pi ????? after 100 digits we have encompassed all objects and issus in the entire universe... ooh it is fun to know them... and there is the pure mathematical part of it but like pi it came forth from a practical application... that math kept on pondering over pi is indeed pure math....that is where math and physical reality drift appart.... fine and sometimes math finds applications that lateron turn out to be usefull in physical things.... like i = sqrt(-1) later on it turned out usefull for electric oscilating currents etc so math and physics go hand in hand together..... lots of times and sometimes they lose eachother that is what history has taught us about them..... stick to reality my friend
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@Chris-5318 well lets agree to disagree.... Bye
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@Chris-5318 yes I do disagree with them....partially at least.... I dont care what they think I care what i think.. to some extend I can go along with their opinions but not entirely... I am free to do so, no matter whet any one else thinks...I have my own opinion about stuff.... (highly educated) people have been wrong many times over including R. Feynmann. so I make my own opinion about things... you should try so one day as well... can recommend it....
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@Chris-5318 If thats your opinion... fine with me. And Insulting me doesnt change my mind either ....my friend.....
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@Chris-5318 fine with me..... bye
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@Chris_5318 absolutely.....
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@Chris-5318 we were finished C.S..
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yeah math jokes amongst mathematicians.........right......ahum and now for the real jokes....please
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