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Β @e9cw196Β well African wild dogs are much more lethal than a lion or prides of lions.
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Β @e9cw196Β No it's not obviously more danger from the lion pride π how did you get to that conclusion? Do you think everything is about muscle and strength to make kills? If what you're saying is true lions would have a higher succes rate at 90+% but it's not it's like 30ππππ Do you understand why for a Lion it so low compared to an African wild dog? I'll have to dumb it down for you again. If I see a lions from a distance I'm safe. All any animal has to do is outrun it in terms of endurance but lions usually wont even attempt to chase since they know closing the gap might not get them the meal due to poor stamina. lions wait stalk, get closer to the point where a full sprint will catch them. For an African wild dog it doesn't matter what you do, you can be seen from a couple miles away and you'll still die. They can run at like 40mph longer than any animal on them plains, it's just a matter of when they'll catch you not if. I watched this video of scientists who wondered why the prey weren't scared anymore even with the presence of lions. The animals were starting to become braver and braver and strayed out their natural habitat which put the ecosystems out of balance. The scientists had to act quickly so their solution was to bring African wild dogs. When they got reintroduced the fear of that national park was restored because none of the animals would dare to be in open areas with African wild dogs. With the lions they didn't give a shitπππ African wild dogs ARE AND WILL ALWAYS BE MORE LETHAL
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Β @e9cw196Β I dont think you finished school bro, lethal means deadly and if you're more likely to die if a pack of Africa wild dogs are chasig you thats literally more lethalππ
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Β @e9cw196Β No if I seen a Lion a couple miles away in an open field in Africa I'm getting away, humans sweat so we can sustain higher speeds for longer than any animal apart from canids. Yes you said wild dogs would get spotted to but if your actual READ WHAT I SAID BEFORE I clearly stated it doesn't matter, that's what makes them more dangerous. They dont need to ambush. You can spot them from a distance and still be dead. That's literally the reason in their presence animals dont go out in open areas due to the fact they know just being caught in the sight of these predators means death. But again when the lions where the only main predator at the park I referenced they didn't care because they know lions cant run for long and if they are spotted they are going to get away. Which is why the animals didn't care being caught in open fields by a lion. HOW DO YOU NOY GET THIS ?
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Β @albertoorani5427Β no because every place a feline is a canid is doing well there but vice versa cant be said.
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Β @xocolatl3682Β what's your point? That has nothing to do with your initial statement. You claimed cats are better at hunting but there is no cat on this earth that comes close to an 85% success rate... go argue with the facts I'm just the messenger ππ
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Β @e9cw196Β again, 85% chance of getting killed by themππ idc what special features you say lions have but its clearly not working If their success rate is well below 50%. If you have 2 serial killers and serial killer A kills 85% of his target and serial killer B kills like 30% of the people he set out to kill, who is more lethal? I really had to dumb it down for you ππ
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Β @e9cw196Β so you think humans are faster and more durable than wildebeest? You think their success rate doesn't count for humans too? You're clearly out of your depth in this conversation. If I spotted a lion from a far I'm getting away but if i see wild dogs from a far I'm still dead either way, humans are tall and can see lions coming from a far. You're disregarding 85%, THEY ARE MORE LETHAL TO ALL ANIMALS INCLUDING HUMANS. I dont know why you cant see that πππ it's not even a discussion. 85 fuckin percent says it all
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Β @e9cw196Β I cant believe you said 85% doesnt mean much for humans, it means everything πππ, if wildebeest who run like 50mph and are stronger can humans dont have a chance what makes you think we have a better one ππππ
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Β @e9cw196Β no you wouldn't, they live in the savanna, humans have long legs and can see over the grass so we can spot a pride of lions coming. And a healthy human can sustain a fast enough run for a long time to keep lions from trying to chase but for the dogs it doesn't matter what you do you're dead. Do you finally get it ?
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Β @adamk9677Β That's literally what we are seeing around the world... And don't speak about hunting because no other predator alive today has been more viscously hunted than the wolf. But they are not on the endangered list. Did you not watch the video? Its the big specialised carnivores that end up suffering with changes while generalists like wolves will be just fine. Hence why they are the most widespread mammalian predators after humans. And its not even close... I'm mean the facts speak for themselves πππππ
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Β @albertoorani5427Β no you idiot, when I said doing well I didn't mean extin level wise, I meant just being proficient hunters on more continents, kinda is a testament to their ability to adapt. So wild cats have Africa, Asia and south America. Canids have Africa, Asia, Australia, North America and the arctic. The last masses canids dominant, you can put Europe in there for a land mass that canids dominant too.
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Β @albertoorani5427Β But I'd say the best overall hunter is the Grey wolf. They have proved they can be the top predator in basically any condition. There are Wolves in the forest, Desert, artic, tundra, open grasslands, mountainous places and even wolves that mainly hunt sea animals with 70% of their diet coming from the sea. No predator ever has been able to dominate in such a wide range of conditions. They are the most widespread predators of all time, being all over the Northern hemisphere of the planet. Their hunting capabilities are incredible. They will hunt things as small as mice easily in the spring months and when winter rolls around they'll frequently kill things as large and as bulky as a bull bison.Β No animal on the planet has the capabilities to frequently hunt bull bison to such a degree that wolves do. Literally anything and everything is on the menu for wolves, no matter how fast or strong they can kill you. Due to the reasons stated above I dont see anything coming close to their claim as the world's best predators.
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TELL that to the African wild dog who is the most efficient land predator with a 85% success rate compared to lions who live in the same environment at 30%ππ
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Β @doug2555Β also very true, I think wolves are the most wide spread predators too. Its incredible how they can adapt
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Β @triplocoreΒ Dogs do not know how to kill, they lost that instinct to kill effectively. If you face a wolf on the other hand you're dead meat...
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Β @e9cw196Β https://youtu.be/tUozsQR8lFM If you watch that vid and comeback with the same bull as you did before I give up with youππ
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Β @bb1111116Β Are you okay? Coyotes are certainly not tolerated at all. They are viciously hunted, thsts a fact but an adaption allowed them to thrive by humans. They kill more dogs, cats and live stock than any other animal on the planet. Its not even close... Canids are also generally better at killing than any other animal. Canids like wolves literally kill anything, they are generalists. Nothing is off the menu for them. That's why they are the most widespread predator of all time. A big cat is very dependent on certain foods, a slight change in their ecosystem and their on the endangered list πππ extremely fragile and specific hunters. Unlike canids that thrive in any condition. You have wolves in Indian and Arabian deserts , wolves in mountains, wolves in the artic ( world's harshest habitat), wolves in thick forests, wolves in tundra, wolves in open grass land and even wolves that hunt in the seas with 70% of their diet coming from the sea. Nothing and I truly mean nothing in existence has ever come close to the killing capabilities of canids...
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Β @adamk9677Β Human encroachment has only made canids less dominant but they still hold their own on any continent they inhabit. Africa only half a century ago was dominated by wild dogs with reported packs of 100 being common and back in the 19th and 20th century packs of over 200 were reported. They had no competition and I'd imagine had a 100% kill rate. But humans came along and seen them as virmin due to the large pack sizes. So hey, I guess they'll have to just settle with the title of the most efficient large land predator known to man πππππππππππππππππππππ
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Β @adamk9677Β Felines are frauds. Living off the hype of claws and agility πππππ Even with all of that they still can't match the wild dogs success rate of around 90%...ππππππ So let's put this down in words so your Brain can understand. Canids are able to hunt with such succes that the only rival they have with their hunting rate success is a HUMAN WITH A GUN, Canids are also so capable that they are more widespread than big cats and everything else. So tell me sir how are big cats better ? Is it because of the strength of the tiger? ( 5% success rate in hunting) Or the agility and fancy claws... I was a big cat fan and know the ins and outs of that family which is why I'm able to debate about them so well. One day I seen the light and woke up from their hype. In the 21ST CENTURY PLANET EARTH IS A CANID'S WORLD. They only thing you can do is attack me but not the argument. You can't actually come with constructive points to back your view ππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππ
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