Comments by "Sam O" (@samo6083) on "Latest Sightings"
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@Generic DanΒ One study of wolves success rate has made the world see them as bad hunters. With the figures of 14% constantly Being quoted.
The wolves of that study come from yellowstone, relatively new wolves with a lack of experience.
However when you bring things over to Wood buffalo national park, things are very different. These wolves have been hunting bison there for thousands of years and do it almost too good.
As we know, wolves are persistence hunters meaning they aren't just like cats and try then leave. In all studies they found wolves stay with herds for up to 6 days at a time.
Their hunting success rate was 100% when they stayed with a herd for 4 days or more and 73% when it was 24 hours or less.
Wolves hardly ever attack once and call it a day. They are PERSISTENT!!! Judging a cats success rate the same way as a wolf's is stupid because they don't hunt the same way.
****EVIDENCE ****
Source : " Wolves, Bison...
... and the Dynamics Related to the Peace-Athabasca Delta in Canada's Wood Buffalo National Park"
Quote: "When the success rate was based on the wolves' prior presence with prey (Table 49), wolves succeeded in killing a bison out of a herd on 73% of the times they were with herds less than one day, and 100% when they were with herds for more than three days."
"When the two latter instances were included as successful encounters, the overall success rate for wolves preying on herds increased from 73% to 79%."
So when taking all hunting methods of wolves into account then their succes is around 80%, coupled with the fact they are the world's most widespread predator; this easily makes them the worlds greatest predator.
The stupid thing about these figures is the fact they came from them hunting bison and in that national park they mainly prey on adult bison, WHO WEIGH UPT TO 1000KG ON AVERAGE BUT GET UP TO 1200KG!!!! Certain packs recorded 81.4% of their kills were done on adults and more specifically 51.4% were in the prime age range of 5-10 years old !!!
For comparison even the best lions hunt cape buffalo (only 900kg) at a rate of 64 % calves. These wolves are much smaller and go for larger prey than lions much more often...
The weight difference between Wolves( 50kg) and bison (1200kg) is 24 times. If lions had the same pound for pound capabilities then a 200kg lion would be killing a 5ton Rhino but that never happens even in prides of 40 members, showing pound for pound big cats aren't keeping up with the capabilities of wolves.
Quote : "From 1978 to 1981, winter kills recorded for the Hornaday River pack consisted of 12 adult male bison, 16 adult females, three yearlings, and 17 calves. Comparison of ages of these wolf-killed bison to the estimated age structure of the population (Table 44 and 45) revealed a similar pattern of selection to that of 1971 to 1981 from "kills" reported by wardens."
Mind you, bull bison are the most formidable prey in North America with even grizzley bears never attempting to take one down without losing their life.
This isn't even including the fact they found wolves strategically attacking prey just to leave them just to track the very same animal a few days later when its been weakened to make the kill even easier !!!
But I rest my case...
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Β @broadbandislifeΒ Below are two studies, the researchers who studied it and what year they studied it. The numbers there can't and have never been achieved by any other large predator in Africa under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES...
I gave 2 sources that done their studies 18 years apart, which automatically trumps your single Wikipedia source who you haven't stated who did the studies and when ππππ but even if you cab provide that Information that's one source vs my 2 making my points more credibleπ
"the dogs captured at least one prey animal on 92 \%of 24 morn ing hunts and 81% of 16 evening hunts, or 88% of hunts overall (Fuller and Kat, 1990)."
"Schaller (1972) reported that 95% of 65 morning hunts and 81% of 47 evening hunts, or 89% of hunts overall, were successful."
Now below is a person who studied the pack sizes and their effects on their hunting success rate. The more dogs were in the pack the higher succes rate.
FitzGibbon (1993) observed hunting groups of 1-3 dogs (success 24%), 4 dogs (73%),
As we know they are endangered and pack sizes are at an all time low compared to 2 centuries ago when their pack size were 300+ . The rest of the predators cant even match their succes at their lowest point ππππSo their succes rate is the highest on the savanna at their weakest state, that's food for thought.
So this whole thing of their kills being taken is only a recent phenomenon due to humans weakening their true power. No animal is pushing 300 dogs of a kill, lions and hyenas would've been subordinates to packs of that size π
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