Comments by "verdebusterAP" (@verdebusterAP) on "Fenice: The next-generation Italian AW249 attack helicopter takes to the skies" video.

  1.  @pitmarkovic4545  incorrect The A129 predates the Tigr by nearly a decade. Yes there was initial involvement with other countries but as common with most EU programs, it didnt last long The A129 came first , the Tigr, then WAH-64/MK1 , and lastly T129 The A129 is being replaced by the AW249 Tigr is being upgraded to the MKIII , while Germany and Australia are retiring their Tigr WAH-64 is being replaced by the AH-64E for the UK as well Australia replacement for its Tigrs T129 is being replaced the ATAK-2 and T-629
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  2. Because the Apache is the gold standard for attack helicopters
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  3.  @solinvictus1234  Incorrect The Apaches MTOW is 23,000lbs while the AW249 is only 18,298lbs your math doesnt add up secondly the stubwing design is still the same as the A129 so it does not carry 16 atgm
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  4.  @solinvictus1234  Incorrect The Spike ER is IR/EO which allows A129 to fire and forget. The problem with using laser targeting with A129 is that laser designation is nose mounted which means it has to stay unmasked to maintain lock which for the A129 is not advisable. The Apache on the other hand has various options Sure it can not
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  5. That expensive stuff is combat proven whereas the AW249 is still very much a footnote The UK opted for AH-64E over WAH-64 MK2 was it was cheaper As part of the Improved Turbine Engine Program (ITEP)., the AH-64 will receive the newer General Electric T901 which produces 3000 shp The AW249 T700 is 2503 shp Lastly , the UK uses the Hellfire, JAGM , Brimstone and Spike NLOS All of which are already integrated with the Apache The AW249 has 20mm cannon which the UK does not use. While WAH-64 and AH-64 both uses the same 30mm cannon and ammo Additionally AW249 would have to go through process of integration Hellfire, JAGM , Brimstone and Spike NLOS while its already done on the AH-64E As someone hilariously mentioned, the AW249 can use the Sidewinder and Stinger which the UK doesnt use The AW249 is not worth the problems for the UK
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  6.  @solinvictus1234  Its by no means better The Apache can carry up to 16 ATGMs, the AW249 only carries 8 at most The Apache has long bow radar for fire and forget, the AW249 has no radar
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  7.  @solinvictus1234  Again wrong maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) is how much the aircraft can take off with The Apache's MTOW is literally 4700lbs heavier than AW249 yet you claim the carries heavier loads so again ,your math does not add up The Apache can carry up to 1200 rounds of 30mm rounds while the earlier A129 carries 500 of 20mm rounds 30mm rounds on average weight over 14 ounces per round while 20mm 3-4 ounces per round A full load of 30mmm rounds for the Apache is half a ton. Even of the AW249 carried 1200 20mm rounds, the weight is barely 300lbs AW249 carries the Spike missile. The A129 carries the SPIKE-ER which only weighs 75lbs while the Apache Hellfire and newer JAGM both weight 108lbs Even if the AW249 carried 16 missiles which doesnt , the weight is barely 1200lbs whereas the Apache with full load of Hellfire is near 1 ton So again wrong
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  8.  @solinvictus1234  Again wrong Helllfires and JAGMs missiles that Apache are heavier than the Spike the AW-249 carries So even if the AW-239 carries 16 missiles which it doesnt, the missile it uses are still consider lightly Wrong The AW-249 does not carry the Sidewinder nor does it carry the Hellfire The Hellfire is used by the Italian air force not the Italian army
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  9.  @solinvictus1234  Again The Hellfire isnt listed on it or the prior A129 Just because the the Italian Air force has, doesnt mean , the Italian Army will use it
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  10.  @joerosa2532  The Apache has the Taliban to thank for alot of its upgrades Hellfire M and N model were specifically designed for operations in Afghan Hellfire R combined M and N capabilities and Hellfire RDX aka Salami Slicer allows for use in Urban areas The Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS) and several kits for the 70mm hydra again thank you Taliban as cheap but low cost weapon Lastly, several sensor and communication upgrades Arrowhead, Link 16 reception and UAV control All born from operations against the Taliban
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  11.  @solinvictus1234  How about wrong on all counts there buddy The Apache has the long bow radar which neither the A129 or AW249 has. The Longbow allows for short range strike with Hellfire-L, medium range 10 plus miles with JAGM/MR and long range strike over 20 miles with Spike NLOS. Again not found on the either A129 or AW249 The Arrowhead again unique to the Apache gives the pilot and gunner their own EO/IR systems Allow the gunner to focus on target while the pilot sweeps the area for more targets or threats The Apache also has LInk-16 reception for communication with larger assets The AW249 at best is AH-64C but vastly inferior to AH-64E
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  12.  @solinvictus1234  Wrong The AW249 will not have the Longbow nor is it planned to AgustaWestland may built the Apache Mk1 for the UK but they dont have access to that tech any more. UK opted for new built AH-64E from the US and retired its Mk1 fleet this year No where on Eurosatoey does it show case anything about Longbow or AW249. Every image shows a static display with no mast mounted radar or even stub wing Arrohead it's obsolete now- most hilarious thing you said all day. Its called modernization their genius Here a hint The Army fielded Apache Version 6 helicopters to units beginning in 2021. Version 6.5 in development. The Apache outsells the competition principal due to the US Army continued demands for improved capabilities. The Arrowhead program in 2016 received funding for higher-resolution color imaging with longer ranges and a wider field of view and again 2022 You hilarious keep mentioning stingers and sidewinders yet to date, they have never been used in combat by any one on a helo Here's a news flash, no one need Stinger or Sidewinders on their gunships The concept was born back in the day when there was very little radar coverage and the real possibility of gunships being ambushed by enemy fighters so gunships needed something to fight back with however today ,its literally a moot point It can not do what the F-35 does with a half made helment
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  13.  @solinvictus1234  Wrong on all counts
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  14.  @solinvictus1234  Oh where was I right Wrong on all counts Agusta-Westland may built the WAH-64 but they did not have access to the Longbow radar. The Lockheed and Northrup handled the integration, programming and sustainment for the WAH-64. Agusta-Westland didnt have a license to build the Longbow from Lockheed and Northrup. Even if an aircraft is license built, there are still items that are not including and have to brought separately. Additional the UK retired all its WAH-64s in favor of new built AH-64E from the US. The data from Leonardo mentions various sensors but not does it explicitly say Longbow nor does it say they were giving a license to build it Stingers and Sidewinders are hilarious moot. The addition of AIMs to gunship was from earlier times when radar coverage was virtually non-existent and there was real possibility of being ambushed by enemy aircraft. Today, that capability isnt even a footnote, Hell the USMC AH-1Z is being worked on by for possible carriage of the AIM-120 The Arrowhead entered service in 2003 and was upgraded in 2016 and again in 2022 receiving another upgrade request from the US Army The Apache can track up 128 targets as well simultaneously engage 16, again wrong Lastly the F-35 capabilities cant be compared to some half made helicopter
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  15. Oh where was I right Wrong on all counts Agusta-Westland may built the WAH-64 but they did not have access to the Longbow radar. The Lockheed and Northrup handled the integration, programming and sustainment for the WAH-64. Agusta-Westland didnt have a license to build the Longbow from Lockheed and Northrup. Even if an aircraft is license built, there are still items that are not including and have to brought separately. Additional the UK retired all its WAH-64s in favor of new built AH-64E from the US. The data from Leonardo mentions various sensors but not does it explicitly say Longbow nor does it say they were giving a license to build it Stingers and Sidewinders are hilarious moot. The addition of AIMs to gunship was from earlier times when radar coverage was virtually non-existent and there was real possibility of being ambushed by enemy aircraft. Today, that capability isnt even a footnote, Hell the USMC AH-1Z is being worked on by for possible carriage of the AIM-120 The Arrowhead entered service in 2003 and was upgraded in 2016 and again in 2022 receiving another upgrade request from the US Army The Apache can track up 128 targets as well simultaneously engage 16, again wrong Lastly the F-35 capabilities cant be compared to some half made helicopter
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  16. Agusta-Westland may built the WAH-64 but they did not have access to the Longbow radar. The Lockheed and Northrup handled the integration, programming and sustainment for the WAH-64. Agusta-Westland didnt have a license to build the Longbow from Lockheed and Northrup. Even if an aircraft is license built, there are still items that are not including and have to brought separately. Additional the UK retired all its WAH-64s in favor of new built AH-64E from the US. The data from Leonardo mentions various sensors but not does it explicitly say Longbow nor does it say they were giving a license to build it Stingers and Sidewinders are hilarious moot. The addition of AIMs to gunship was from earlier times when radar coverage was virtually non-existent and there was real possibility of being ambushed by enemy aircraft. Today, that capability isnt even a footnote, Hell the USMC AH-1Z is being worked on by for possible carriage of the AIM-120 The Arrowhead entered service in 2003 and was upgraded in 2016 and again in 2022 receiving another upgrade request from the US Army The Apache can track up 128 targets as well simultaneously engage 16, again wrong Lastly the F-35 capabilities cant be compared to some half made helicopter
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  17. ​ @ggoddkkiller1342  Its using 20mm cannon which has doesnt have that bad of recoil but yes, the sensor placement is very iffy
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  18. American has a lot more than this
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  19.  @wor53lg50  Simple cost
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  20. Making a replacement for the Apache is hard nut to crack The USMC AH-1Z has fully glass cockpit as well as newer Helmet mounted sight similar to the Joint Helmet-Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) uses on strike fighters so any replacement would need both The Mast mounted system would need Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS), FLIR and AESA rolled into one system allow for passive tracking without emission Lastly improved range and speed Its a tall order But the airframe would have to go in completely new direction
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  21.  @thecommentaryking  That purchase made no sense
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  22.  @thecommentaryking  Cost of the program is creating issues now If they had opted for an aircraft already used by the US military, cost wouldnt be an issue
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  23.  @solinvictus1234  False
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  24.  @solinvictus1234  Lets recap Which is currently the best selling attack gunship on the market and which is still being developed
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  25.  @solinvictus1234  Yet despite all the claims ,interest in the AW249 is virtually non existent as no one has made a serious order while
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  26.  @solinvictus1234  All false lets recap The UK literally just increased their order from 38 to 50 AH-64E so they are watching nothing. The UK uses the Hellfire, JAGM, Brimstone and Spike NLOS which is already integrated with the AH-64 whereas the AW249 has none of the above so the UK would have to pay that cost. Additionally, the AH-64 uses 30mm on both AH-64E and WAH-64 while the AW249 uses a 20mm cannon which the UK does not use period so again cost. Spain has committed to the MkIII programme for the Tigre Germany is the only one with uncertainty regarding their future. Japan has committed to withdrawing its gunships fleet completely as they see no reason for them Neither Poland, Singapore or Indonesia have any interest All you are hilarious claiming is that customers with recent orders of the AH-64 are going to magically renge orders in favors of the AW249 No is watching or speaking
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  27.  @solinvictus1234  False again Poland made its decision in 2022 for AH-64E for tender. The lie that you are trying sell is for the AW101 not the AW249. Poland has license to built the AW10. Leonardo tried to use that deal to leverage for Poland's Kruk program however they lost , there was never any deal for the AW249 False again for the billionth time Leonardo has no license to build AH-64E. That ended when the Apache MK-1 was retired ,more to the point, no one has a license for AH-64E Quote the UK Ministry of Defence announced a $2.3bn purchase of 50 new AH-64E Version 6 (v6). Rather than entirely new-build aircraft, select airframes from the current AH1 fleet were sent to Boeing’s Apache production line in Mesa, Arizona, to be disassembled and partially re-built. The first two of the new aircraft were delivered via Boeing C-17 Globemaster III to RAF Brize Norton in November 2020 before continuing to Wattisham Flying Station by road. By early 2022, 14 aircraft had arrived in the UK and the type entered service. The remaining 36 are scheduled to be delivered by summer 2024 in time for the retirement of the AH1 Quote the UK will be able to draw on a global supply chain for its new Apache fleet – with all the benefits in terms of availability and economies of scale which that implies – since its AH-64Es will be almost identical to those being flown by the US Army and other international customers. This will enable the British Army to either reduce operational costs for the Apache fleet So again false Lastly ,they are called the British Army not Royal Army and there is no such conversation The AW249 only confirmed orders are 48 for the Italian Army while the AH-64E has over 1400 orders UK has repeated many times that the reason for buying new built AH-64E from the US is to reduce operational cost by increasing commonality false again
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  28. False again Poland made its decision in 2022 for AH-64E for tender. The lie that you are trying sell is for the AW101 not the AW249. Poland has license to built the AW10. Leonardo tried to use that deal to leverage for Poland's Kruk program however they lost , there was never any deal for the AW249 False again for the billionth time Leonardo has no license to build AH-64E. That ended when the Apache MK-1 was retired ,more to the point, no one has a license for AH-64E Quote the UK Ministry of Defence announced a $2.3bn purchase of 50 new AH-64E Version 6 (v6). Rather than entirely new-build aircraft, select airframes from the current AH1 fleet were sent to Boeing’s Apache production line in Mesa, Arizona, to be disassembled and partially re-built. The first two of the new aircraft were delivered via Boeing C-17 Globemaster III to RAF Brize Norton in November 2020 before continuing to Wattisham Flying Station by road. By early 2022, 14 aircraft had arrived in the UK and the type entered service. The remaining 36 are scheduled to be delivered by summer 2024 in time for the retirement of the AH1 Quote the UK will be able to draw on a global supply chain for its new Apache fleet – with all the benefits in terms of availability and economies of scale which that implies – since its AH-64Es will be almost identical to those being flown by the US Army and other international customers. This will enable the British Army to either reduce operational costs for the Apache fleet So again false Lastly ,they are called the British Army not Royal Army and there is no such conversation The AW249 only confirmed orders are 48 for the Italian Army while the AH-64E has over 1400 orders UK has repeated many times that the reason for buying new built AH-64E from the US is to reduce operational cost by increasing commonality false again
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  29.  @GunnerRA155  The AW249 has nothing on the Apache but of course crazies want to try and defend what doesnt exist
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