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  140. No, Ukraine is showing the superiority of the Apache to Russian gunships 3 simple facts First, the Apache is designed to carry the longbow radar. The longbow allows to the Apache to search for target with minimal exposure The KA-52 has to fully unmask completely to search for targets as its radar is mounted in the nose This allows the enemy to spot them easier One Apache can act as sensors while others as shooters. Secondly The Hellfire missile thanks to constant operations has undergone several upgrades The newer models be can launched while the Apache is still in concealed position again minimal exposure when engaging targets The videos of KA-52s and others have all been running and gunning with unguided weapons. Apache is designed to strike precisionly Note that when the KA-52 started using LMUR and striking more precisely, their effectiveness went up Lastly, the Apache has advance datalinks that allow the view real time video from UAV as well as the ability to control them UAVs can push ahead and look for potential threats ahead of the Apaches Also remember that Apache has the Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS) plus 6 other options for precision kits for its 70mm rockets Those kits allow the Apache to engage more targets precisely and preserve the Hellfire for high value targets The only things that the Apache need for future combat is EOTS/IR/Longbow combination in the mast so the Apache passive view targets as EW is advancing to where the enemy may be able to detect its radar emission and longer range and speed
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  291. lets recap 3 key points First the Battle of Antonov Airport The US military would have came in at night, dropping forces at primary ,secondary and tertiary LZ While the first wave would be assaulting the airport, the secondly would be securing LZs for MC-130s to land additional forces MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator carries the same load out as an Apache but still retains the MH-60 ability to aerial refuel The USMC LAV-25 is light enough to transported by C-130 which allows attacking forces to have both light armor and aerial support So instead of mirroring US tactics, Russian forces decide that it would be bright idea to attack Antonov Airport in broad day light not only were they driven back but it give Ukraine forces time to render the airport useless Russia's plan was to land 18 Ilyushin Il-76s full of forces and blitz Kyiv just 7-12 miles away It would have worked except of the asinine decision to attack in broad daylight Second and most important Instead of attacking Western Ukraine and systemically cut Ukraine from the West by deploying screening forces to border of Poland, Slovakia, Romania and Moldova which would prevented the West from supplying Ukraine, Russia attacks Eastern Ukraine and leaves the door wide open for the West to supply Ukraine With the West cut off, no HIMARS, Arty , MANPADs nada but instead once again , they left the door open Lastly, instead of reinforcing the Black Sea Fleet with 1 Oscar , Akula and 1 or 2 Udaloy basically overwhelming firepower from the Black Sea ? Beef up the Black Sea Fleet before Feb 24, they did nothing and ow the few assets they have left are basically useless No they lost this conflict from the start
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  467. Carriers will never be obsolete. Battleships became obsolete because their weapons limited their scope of operations. They can only attack targets with ranges of its guns. The power of their guns was too much for sensitive electronics. Carriers can perform a wide range of operations compared to BBs. Hypersonic weapons and ultra quiet subs are threats but they are threats that can be countered. https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/2014-archive-naval-exhibitons/sea-air-space-2014/1737-huntington-ingalls-industries-showcases-its-ballistic-missile-defense-ship-based-on-lpd-17-class.html HII proposed a BMD ship based on the LPD-17 288 missile capacity, plus provisions for LAWS and EMRG One the problems with the MK-41 vls is the size of VLS tube limits the size of the missile. An LPD-17 could carry normally MK-41 vls tube but plus larger ones to accommodate larger missiles. In theory, you could double the range of the SM-3 and SM-6 or even quad pack SM-6s. With space once used for cargo, generators for LAWS and EMRG so they can maintain high rates of fire even when used at max power. Hell, you could even upgrade CIWS from 20mm to 30mm. Newer programmable rounds like the XM813 or even an upgrade to 57mm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxVOclDHI9Y watch at 350 The size of the LPD-17 gives plenty of growth options. 20 ships total Hard kill anti torpedo defenses are starting to be fielded but false positives are still a problem. Once that wrinkle is fixed, Ships will have true defenses against Subs. As weapons evolves , defenses will too
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  512. still no a problem , combat planes top off before entering the combat zone. The US has a large tanker whereas the problem with the Su-35 is that Russia has an extremely small tanker force compared to the US. Next , the spec you used for the AIM-120 is the A/B model , The AIM-120 is currently D model which maxes out at 180km so your math is wrong. the Su-35 can pull 9G turns which again does not help them with a missiles. Missiles like the R-77, AIM-120, Meteor and MICA are designed to pull 20 plus Gs. Remember we are sticking to the video, so no MiGs help for the Sus Actually No. first Su-35s will be cruising at 500-600 per hour , going any faster will burn up too much fuel. the F-35s dont have to worry about fuel in either case and easily dash behind the Su-35 and fire and forget, Since the F-35s are firing from behind, the Su-35s MAWS wont detect the shot right away. planes are generally blind in the rear and strong in the front. the problem with the video is that is assuming that both F-35 and Su-35 are using bombs. When planes use bombs in contested air space, they will have a larger escort force most planes today prefer to use long range cruise missiles which allow them to attack without having to deal with the enemies defense force. For example the F-35 can use to JSM in stealth and strike from 345 miles away. In non stealth, they can use the AGM-158 and strike from 600 miles. the Su-35 can use the KH-59 and strike from 150 miles so basically the style of combat that video is implying is vintage 80s
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  613.  Biljana Cvjetinovic  Ukraine has been hype vs reality and the reality for Russia has shown Russian to be completely lacking The hype During a reported test conducted by the Russian military in 1999 the T-90 was exposed to a variety of RPG, ATGM and APFSDS munitions. When equipped with Kontakt-5 ERA the T-90 could not be penetrated by any of the APFSDS or ATGM used during the trial The reality Javelins, and NLAW have been shredding Russia armor at whole sale prices despite those tanks have Kontak-5 and Relikt ERA The hype The Defense System President-S, also referred to as BKO, is a fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft protection system designed to defeat incoming infrared-guided missiles by laser and radiofrequency/electronic jamming of the missile's seeker. President-S is intended to defeat primarily man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) such as the Russian Igla and the United States Stinger shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles. KRET and Ekran tested this system firing Igla missiles at a President-S equipped Mi-8 helicopter fixed up on a special rig. During the tests, several missiles were fired from a distance of 1,000 meters with no missile reaching its target due to the highly effective jamming The reality Everything from Ka-52s to Su-34 have been shot down by Stingers. Russian aircraft losses are continuing to mount The hype Russia forces control the situation the reality Within 4 weeks of war, Russia has several high ranking officers including 5 generals and one captain Everything from armor to aircraft to personnel is being shredded in Ukraine and that Russia fighting against a poorly armed opponent after 4 weeks
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  667. The title is misleading. The US has no real need for long-range AIMs. What he doesn't understand is distance and tactics How many countries can fly fighters directly to the US ? Just one and thats Russia and thats simply the distance between Russia and Alaska Beyond that no one has the ability to do so. That why the US has no active SAM sites. Russia can send bombers but they are easy to spot . Russia and China have a need to long range AIMs because they are landlocked with several countries who they don't really get along with and other countries that are not that far away so their need for longer range system is out of shear necessity. The EU distance to Russia again is necessity why they need long range AIMs Next is tactics. While the China's PL-15/21 and Russia R-33/37 are operational. they can be defeated with simple tactics One of China's problems is that lack tankers. The few Xian H-6 that they are extremely limited in range capability. While the J-20 range is over 1000 miles,China lacks the tankers to keep at 1000 mile orbits. J-10/11s can orbit but one they are not stealthy and two they require external tanks Even using buddy stores system, its still problematic. So even if they did fire, whats stopping the US from having EA-18Gs laying jamming screen. The USN plans is to employ EA-18Gs in trios which means extremely difficult for the enemy forces to counter because of the shear volume of jamming that 3 aircraft can create. The punch with line Russia is basically the same. distance and tactics can easily defeat the R-33 and R-37
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  736. The F-14 was dead weight point blank The USN tried to do what the USAF did with the F-15 by making the F-14 into multi-role asset but even with added air to ground capabilities, the F-14 simply wasn't as flexible as the F-18 was. While the F-14 certainly could carry a decent bomb load, it could not use weapons like the AGM-88, AGM-65, AGM-84E/F which was major problem As development of smaller air launched cruise missiles that allowed fighter size aircraft to carry them proceeded, the case against the F-14 grew The USAF didn't opt in with AIM-54. They trialed with F-15 but decided it wasnt worth it While the AIM-120 could not replicate the AIM-54 performance , it lightly weight was more appealing as F-18 could carry them in large number easier than F-14 with the AIM-54 The AWG-9 while powerful major draw back was it's power. Its RF was so massive that aircraft equiped with modern RWR could easily detect it Iran success with the AWG-9 and AIM-54 was solely due to fact that the majority of Iraqi aircraft lacked RWR The F-18E/F APG-79 is vastly superior to the F-14s radar. as well other enhancements that basically sealed the F-14s fate The problem with F-14 was it required a lot of work to become a modernized asset whereas the F-18E/F was already developed There was little left to keep it in service Secondly Rumsfelt conflict with Grumman weakened the capability of the Navy.-FALSE While he was present during the F-14 initial development, the person who had conflict with Grumman was Cheney The F-14 enemy was the the USN itself The F-15 entered service in 1972 and by Gulf war , had enjoyed several major upgrades The F-14 entered service in 1974 but the USN did not commit to upgrading its performance like the USAF did by the time , they did, it was too little too late. Lack of upgraded hindered its use in the Gulf
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  752. @Speedbird61 The Typhoon is better than the Rafale however lack of upgrades gives the Rafale the advantage. "Rafale has a higher combat range than the Typhoon (by NOT a negligible number). The Rafale can carry more armement and a heavier weight of weapons or accessories than the Typhoon." False France made the Rafale use to mainly French made weapons whereas the Typhoon can use any weapon. The Typhoon can use the AIM-9 , IRIS- T, ASRAAM for WVR whereas the Rafale is limited to the MICA. The AIM-9X block II has full 360 off boresight capability whereas the MICA is limited to 90. For BVR, the Typhoon again has the option of the AIM-120 or Meteor whereas the Rafale is limited to Meteor. The Meteor is more advanced then AIM-120C-5 but still inferior to the AIM-120C-7 and AIM-120D. Now the Rafale has AESA standard whereas AESA is non-standard for Typhoons as only 2 of 9 operators have ordered it Both the Optronique secteur frontal and EuroFIRST PIRATE are very advanced IRST systems same goes for the Praetorian DASS and Spectra very advanced defensive suites. Now the Typhoon ability to use any ones technology comes into play with targeting pods The Thales has admitted that the Damocles pod cant compete with the SNIPER or LITENING pods The reason for that is the US military. The US heavily invested in targeting pods and constantly provides millions for upgrades for SNIPER and LITENING whereas Thales struggles to get funding. Even Thales new TALIOS was passed over for the SNIPER for French made Mirage-2000 Both planes struggle with upgrades but Rafale using mainly french weapons has hurt it greatly on the market whereas the Typhoons lack of upgrades has hurt it The Rafale claims 1150 combat radius to the Typhoon 750 mile range but once again the Typhoon superior weapon capability comes into play The Typhoon can carry weapons like SDB, SPEAR 3 and Brimstone. Lightweight weapons that can do the same job as 500lbs but with little collateral damage The Rafale relies on the AASM which it can carry 6 at time wherea Typhoon can carry 12 plus SDB, SPEAR 3 and Brimstone That and many other reasons is why the Typhoon is better
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  760. Russia's problem has been arrogance and Ukraine how shown why that is costing them Russia's claim was that its weapons are just as good as the US but at 1/4 the cost Buoyed by their performance in Syria, they failed to upgrade their conventional forces and its costing them in Ukraine The US dropping a fortunate of the MQs and that has paid major dividends because the MQ-1 and 9 equipped missiles and bombs have been very effective with dealing with threats If the Russian air force had MQs with missile able to carry Persistent Close Air Support (PCAS), Ukraine would not be as successful as they are Even now with Irainian drones, the West has already supplied Ukraine with ample C-UAS weapons to make those drones moot The RC-135 Rivet joint, EC-130 and EA-18G have ability to detect, identify and geolocate signals throughout the electromagnetic spectrum. They can locate any target by emission and forward it to the E-8 JSTARS who in turn forwards it to strike assets for time sensitive strikes The Russian airforce ??? Their EW equipment is all ground based which so far has basically useless Russia over lack of investment in their air force shows Its 2022 and the only aircraft with targeting pod is the Su-57 ?? Virtually all US strike aircraft can use PAVEWAY ,JDAMs and SDBs whereas only a handful of Russian aircraft can use the KABs and those cant use KAB, use the SVP-24? The same with missiles, most all US strike aircraft can use LRASM, Harpoon and JASSM/ER whereas only handful of Russian aircraft can use certain KHs Russia's shortcomings are painful evident at this point
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  1048.  @LaikaTheG  F-14 at most could have carried only a single pod on the same station used for the TARPS as the TARPS and ALQ-99 are roughly the same size F-18 can carry ALQ-99s and still have room for AIM-120s with east. Its stretch as electronic attack requires a lot power The F-14 AST-21 , hypothetical 2010 upgrade would be brought it up to 4.5 gen specs it was exactly the stress. They were flying the airframes consistently with near max weight every tanking mission which stressed out the air frame a great deal What does weight have to do with anything??? Seriously The F-14 empty weight 43,735 lbs while the F-18E/F is 32,081 lbs and 34,581 lbs for F-35C The F-18E/F critical advantage was its bring back The Super Hornet can return to an aircraft carrier with a larger load of unspent fuel and munitions than the original Hornet; this ability is known as "bringback", which for the Super Hornet is in excess of 9,000 lb The F-14 bring back was half that. F-14 could not recover with 6 AIM-54s As for tanking Again no The F-18 carries up 29,000 lbs with 4 tanks. The F-14 carries 19,000lbs with 2 tanks,Not the same My point was you act like the Block III is this huge step when in reality it’s basic procedure. That would be false The Block III is very much like the F-16 block 70 and F-15EX, a massive difference between models Upgrading is by no means hard. The reason why the F-15EX is such a beast is because the newer technology takes up considerable less space than the older tech Its basic same as solid state drives and traditional HDD. SSD are smaller but do same job as larger HDD. Fly by wire takes up less space than analog controls Its easier to build F-15EX completely new than trying upgrade existing F-15E.Both can be do but the later takes more time to do You were portraying the f18 as versatile because you can upgrade it to do things it wasn’t originally planned to do like buddy tanking or electronic attack Lets look at that The F-18A was designed to carry the AIM-7, AIM-9, AGM-84 Harpoon , AGM-62 Walleye, AGM-88 HARM and the TV guided versions AGM-65 Maverick as well ADM-141A/B TALD .Thats air to air, anti-ship, land attack and SEAD without any upgrades. By 1987, the F-18C/D added AIM-120 AMRAAM, AGM-84E SLAM and the IR guided versions AGM-65 Maverick. Long range precision strike and enhance targeting at night with IR maverick By 1993, the addition of the AN/AAS-38 give the F-18 the ability to use the PAVEWAY LGB The F-14 during that time was still just air defense and ISR with the TARPS The F-14 didnt jump the club till 1995 and the addition was solely bombs The F-18 has combat proven versatile not hypothetical like the F-14. The aircraft you are comparing was not built or proven, just ink on paper and Yes adapting the F-18 to tanking and EW/A is versatile Everything you say about the F-14 is literally hypothetical with a lot of ifs and if even more ifs
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  1363.  @tiagogomes3807  Problems with commonality? Commonality gives the USN massive tactically over China and Russia Here are actual facts With a LM-2500 series, the U.S. Navy has support worldwide whether onshore or at sea, and interoperability benefits with other U.S. and allied naval ships Most importantly, the newest model, LM2500+G4 is designed with advanced power generation as well Integrated electric propulsion support Since it so widely, used, it can be repaired at both US and non-US base with ease whereas Chinese ships ? The SM-3, SM-6, ESSM, and newer SM-2 Active have lock on after launch capability as their seekers have active radar homing They can be fired without the launch ship designating the target More the point, as part of the Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) , they can be handled off to other assets The Chinese HQ-9 is semi-active radar homing (SARH) and can't function unless the launch ship designating is the target Additional the ESSM can be quad-packed 4 missiles in 1 VLS which gives the CGs and DDG substantially more missiles than PLAN ship Please name the Chinese ship borne missiles with LOAL , ARH or Quad pack capability Fun fact, since the USN made their own missile instead of copying like the Chinese did with HQ-9 and S-300, the USN has greater flexibility The SM-2 Active reuses SM-6 tech while the SM-6 block II use the SM-3 propulsion giving it a potential range over 500 miles and speed higher than Mach 8 Why that's possible , Commonality as the SM-2, SM-3 and SM-6 all share the same design but slight differences No the SM-2 will not be upgraded further as far as the USN goes . Last time I checked, the Russian navy lost its 11,000 ton Slava-class cruiser to two cheap knock off subsonic missiles Additional, the present of US Harpoon has caused the Russian' navy remaining frigates to retreat to out of range Strange how the Harpoon still strikes fear into the Russian navy despite being subsonic If the USN needs a ASM, they dont have to look far. The TLAM MST, SM-6, LRASM and JSM are available options that they can field on short notice The PLAN having supersonic missiles does not matter Cooperative Engagement Capability counters supersonic missiles The PLAN is no where near the level of the USN The Type-055 is still very much out gunned by the US Ticos in raw power
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  1376.  @BeatsCraftn  Compared to China and Russia , the US is decades ahead. Example the USN was just delivered DDG-119 Sept 2020, the PLAN completed its Type-055 class Aug 2020. Russia last destroyer was delivered Jan 1999 and its Lider class is ??? Both the USN and PLAN are fielding newly built major surface combatants whereas Russia is just pumping out frigates Apparently you forgot the fact the Russia did a great of its ship building in the Ukraine. Since they parted ways, Russia has had to build new ships yards from scratch so it start producing major surface combatants again As far as the Abrams goes, The US has no need to build a new tank. When the cold war ended, the US got a look at Russia T-72s with Kontkat-5 ERA from former East Germany and tested out the M829A1 which was ineffective. They also got a look at T-80 that UK had gotten their hands on also equipped with Kontkat-5. So they developed the newer M829A2 counter Kontakt-5. Additionally the T-72 and T-80 both used 2A46 125 mm gun which they tested against Abrams armor. In 2003, the US once again got their hands on T-80s. This time 4 T-80UD equipped with the latest Kontakt, Shtora-1 and 125mm ammunition.This lead to the developed of the M829A3. Russia built the T-90 but the US had compromised so much of the T-90s technology already, hence why the T-14 is radically different from the T-90,80 and 72. Why would the US need to build a new tank when they have already compromised the T-90,80 and 72s armor , defensive suites and weapons Thats kinda pointless.
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  1401.  @LaikaTheG  The only pictures of the F-14 is with a single pod, its not designed to carry multiple pods if the F-14 had bring back of 9k lbs, as you state, explain the USN statement that 6 AIM-54 caused too much stress on landing There was no power gap. The only issue that need to be resolved was the AIM-120 range and capabilities The argument for space doesn't apply to the F-14 as it was never proven. The F-15EX, F-16 block 72 and F-18 Block III proved it worked with their air frame however the F-14 has the additional of its variable wing system It’s not easier to build completely new. Again wrong Retrofitting is extremely time consuming vs building from the ground up is significantly faster and more cost effective Instead having to remove and replace equipment, every is all new Considering be less flight testing and recertification Who needed the f14 to be a anti ship weapon Exactly the issue The F-18 had everything already standard whereas the F-14 did not F-14D did not have the ability to use AGM-88, AGM-65, AGM-84/E/K. The only thing that F-14D had over the F-18E/F was the LANTRIN Tomcat Tactical Targeting (T3) ,Fast Tactical Imagery (FTI), and Targeting System (LTS) which allowed the F-14 to self generate its own targeting coordinates which was better than AN/ASQ-228 ATFLIR system. Thats only useful for bombs and thats it The F-18E/F can carry either SNIPER and Litening pods. The only point that we can agree is that Advanced Tactical Aircraft (ATA) for A-12 is wasted a lot of money that could have been used on other aircraft
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  1403. @KondorDCS Laughs in 720 F-35s built The fail would be the Su-75 First its not operational, hell its not even built yet Second lets recap the Su-57 program Sukhoi was given the contract for PAK-FA/Su-57 program in 2002 ."Sukhoi director Mikhail Pogosyan has projected a market for 1,000 aircraft over the next four decades, which will be produced in a joint venture with India, two hundred each for Russia and India and six hundred for other countries. The Indian Air Force will “acquire 50 single-seater fighters of the Russian version” before the two seat FGFA is developed. The Russian Defense Ministry will purchase the first ten aircraft after 2012 and then 60 after 2016." its 2021 and there just 12 Su-57 built. zero export orders and India withdrew from the FGFA Even Russia has trimmed its order Rand is well known for making over blown assumptions They claimed that Su-35 would be able to match the F-35 in BVR here is the problem that statement The Su-35 is not stealth its sensors can only detect the F-35 at 50 miles on down while the F-35 sensors can detect the Su-35 from 100 mile plus miles The Su-35 Irbis-E is powerful PESA systems whose RF emissions are easy for an F-35 to track with its ASQ-239 The ASQ-239 is an evolution of the F-22s ALR-94. The F-22 ALR-94 can cue targets by emission over 250 miles away The F-22 uses 30 antenna while the ASQ-239 uses just ten The F-35 ASQ-239 allows the F-35 to circle the Su-35 from long range without betraying it position The F-35 tries to use its AESA, there is possibility if the Su-35 is equipped with the Khibiny, it may alert it, hence why ASQ-239 is the better option However the Khibiny,effectiveness against AESA is in question The F-35 can easily close to 20 miles and fire on the Su-35 from behind while simultaneously jamming Even with AWACS support The F-35 still has the advantage. Rand reports use unrealistic situations Pierre Sprey is a joke. He likes to claim the F-16 and A-10 which was over 40 years ago so in the last 40 years, what defense program has he been part besides those two ? Sprey and his fighter Mafia pals got booted out the defense industry because their ideas were idiotic Example they wanted the USAF to cancel the F-15 and buy thousands of the F-16 equipped with only AIM-9s and M-61 All air to ground missions would be handled by the A-10???? When the F-35A performed at the Paris Airshow His credibility went straight back to the toilet The quote poor manouverability....cant turn, cant climb, cant run. turned out to be absolute bullshit
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  1419.  @jasonj3599  Its called facts The Rafale is highly specialized to French needs and weapons and uses too few weapons. So unless you already have French aircraft and weapons buying the Rafale is expensive. Dassault has dragged out Rafale's procurement as well is offering it EX-FAF at deeply discounted prices The Eurofighter potential was killed by its politics. Tranche 4 is the most capable model but it can't complete with the F-15 advanced or EX if they made the tranche 4 back in 2007, it would have likely edged out the F-15E orders but due the EU constant bickering, it's upgrades arrived too little too late The Gripen is lightweight powerhouse ,despite Saab claims, its not a heavy lifter like the Rafale, Typhoon, F-18E/F, and F-15A/EX Saab like the Rafale, sells planes from the SWAF to make orders Its not that they don't have choices, its that choices dont offer the same as the F-35 By 2030, how many of those choices will be relevant The US can operate F-15s, F-16 and F-18 because they have ample air power with USAF, USN and USMC combined For countries with limited air power, the 5th F-35 is more sensible than 4.5 gen aircraft Also in 2030, most of the 6th gens will be in the prototype stage You honestly think that 4.5 gen can match a 6th ? What can a Rafale 4 or Tranche 4 Typhoon do against 6th gen 4.5 gen rely heavily of EW for protection. 6th aircraft will have highly advanced EW capabilites able to defeat such EW protection but most importantly they will have the newer generation of long range AAMs Egypt tested its Rafale against its Su-35 and Rafale's completely dominated So if you are an air forces that does heavy lifting, what senses does operatinng solely a 4.5 gen make
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  1495.  @yellowtunes2756  Again wrong When you have true air superiority , you have complete control of the battlespace. In essence, the enemy is unable to act freely That Gulf War is example of true superiority as west had complete control of the battlespace Vietnam again is irrelevant to modern warfare. Secondly wars are not fought with similar levels of equipment as Ukraine has shown. War are fought with advantages The Pzh-2000 were out of action due the high-intensity of Ukraine firing. That problem is simply due to low number of Pzh-2000. Ukraine doesn't have enough western SPA yet Russia's lack of camera's also makes no sense. The US has high resolution optics on everything so commanders can view situations as well confirm target movement and destruction. Incorrect The M777 needs 20 min per mission and range is just 25 miles. It has to set up, communicate/fire ,then break down and leave which normally takes 20 miles The Pzh-2000 needs 6s min per mission. Set up, communicate/fire and displace ,its range 40 miles The HIMARS only needs 3 mins and its range 50 miles. The missile are preloaded while its on the move so all it has to do set up, fire and displace A KA-52 can cover 25 miles in 9 minutes which means it can easily engage M777s Even at max speed, the KA-52 covers 40 miles in 12 minutes , 15 mins for 50 miles By the time a KA-52 gets over head, Pzh-2000 and HIMARS are over 4 miles away. HIMARS as much as 10 miles away This goes back to Russia's lack of air superiority The US maintains air superiority by having aircraft 24/7 patrolling kill boxes The principle benefit is that aircraft can react within minutes. a supersonic Su-35 or MiG-35 can cover 50 miles under 3 minutes but more importantly if they had advanced western targeting pods and Brimstone missiles, they could precisely target and fire while en route without having to get overhead yet factor why Russias's air superiority is farce
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  1569. How about no ZOV24-2-22 FPV drones are working in Ukraine because both sides are ill equipped to deal with tme There are a few solutions to the FPV issue however one that is gaining traction is upgrading active protection system (APS) with additional launchers with programmable airburst round either low velocity HEDP 40mm rounds or high velocity 30mm AHEAD rounds so adding the new features to the existing assets allow them to test options for counter drones Second, the US wouldnt have Ukraine problems in a conflict Russian forces are caught unaware 90 percent of the time US forces have Joint Battle Command-Platform (PM JBC-P) which is carried by all forces and can be equipped even to HMWVVs For battle management and airborne ground surveillance . the USAF used the E-8 JSTARS giving forces on ground real time info on enemy movement Even though the USAF retired it, the US Army has been allowed to buy a replacement for it While Russia doesnt take SEAD/DEAD seriously The US has EA-18G, F-16CJ, EC-130H ,Rivet Joint and Combat Sent as well as E/A-37 in RD and the bulk of US aircraft can use the AGM-88., ADM-141 and ADM-160s The US has a whole arsenal devoted to destruction of enemy defenses and also thanks to Iraq and Afghn, Electronic warfare sensors are far more precise Lastly, the US wrote the book on drone warfare with the MQ-1 and MQ-9 As the US takes SEAD/DEAD seriously, Ukraine wouldnt have SAMs to target aircraft and the US would have its airborne ground surveillance , AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft opening with impunity
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  1578.  @megazombiekiller9000  You forget titanium, aluminum, and carbon fiber are lighter and stronger The support around the gun is likely titanium GAU-22 is electric not hydraulic. As for the electronics and targeting for the gun, its all integrated What you are describing is the 4th gen on down which used federated systems As you stated, each piece tech has its set of systems The 5th gen and 4.5 gen uses integrated systems where everything is integrated As for complexity to mount not a problem ,computers allow precise computations Lastly Valuable space, Thats why 5th and 4.5 use integrated systems Instead of FCS, ECC, LCOSS and other you have a hard drive and written software The gun is simple. One, not every target needs a missile, the gun can limit collateral damage. For stealth aircraft, that gun port is considerably smaller than the weapons bays Two, Digital radio frequency memory (DRFM) and Directional Infrared Counter Measures (DIRCM) are advanced countermeasures against missiles DRFM can blind radar guided missiles while DIRCM can blind IR homing missiles Even in WVR, both can provide a measure of defense where there is nothing you can do about a gun except try to dodge Three, shell tech has advanced greatly and guns can do more damage with considerably less rounds The Semi-armor-piercing high explosive incendiary (SAPHEI) combines both HE and AP rounds into one Best of both in one round. We also seeing more and more programmable rounds Modern tech is making the gun far more accurate and lethal than previous generations
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  1583. How about no The F-35 single engine still produces more power than both the J-35s WS-21s combined The notion that KAAN, , KF-21 and J-35 addresses the F-35 shortcoming is hilarious First that F-35 design was heavily dependent on model able to do STOVL. A twin engine design cant do STOVL Secondly the F-35A was designed for the USAF and export, the F-35B USMC and export and the F-35C for USMC and USN There is no export for the F-35C yet no one else uses CATOBAR. I honestly though Canada was getting F-35C variant As for the J-35 trying to defeat the F-35. not in 100 or 1000 years As mentioned before the F-35 engine has more power but most importantly, the US doesnt have China's problems with engines. The J-20 is been through at least 5 engine variants thus far. The F-135 has planned growth options which increase thrust and the fuel efficiency. The Engine Core Upgrade (ECU) is planned upgrade engine with tech from the Adaptive Engine Transition Program (AETP, PW still ironing out the details of changing the F-135 to the XA101 ADVENT engine The newer F-35s are getting the APG-85 radar which can installed on all 3 F-35 models with little effort When you compare those stats ,teh KAAN, KF-21 and J-35 ,they are all way behind the F-35 The biggest boon the J-35 , more the point the Chinese aircraft is the USN revealing the AIM-174 The AIM-174 allows non stealth F-18s to launch from long range and be handed over F-35 which can terminally guide to target Allowing the USN to target PLAAF/PLAN assets like tankers, AWACS and the J-15EW
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  1755.  @certaindeath7776  Wrong on all counts First lets put the swarm bullshit to rest. Neither Russia or China is going to swarm attack anything with hypersonic weapons So first , the shear of amount of material per missile says not going to happen The CVN has 11 CVNs plus the LHD-class ships so you are looking at 20 targets The SM-3 and SM-6 can deal with hypersonic weapons ,however they require a great of input from external sources. They can't accurately track and shoot like they do with supersonic and subsonic. The current SPY-1 on ships doesnt have the accuracy needed. The solution is the SPY-6 however that won't be fully fielded for a while The next problem is Electronic warfare. Hypersonic weapons rely on communication from launching platform to stay course and on active radar homing in the terminal phase. Jamming can effectively throw a wrench in that. Moving targets are problematic because they are moving The Chinese DF-21 claims 1100 mile range and a speed of Mach 10. It needs 8 min 38 seconds to reach its target when launched from 1100 miles a carrier can change its position by 5 miles in 8 mins. Jamming can effectively disrupt communications and blind seeker The USN EW aboard ship is limited in that area. Again the solution is the SPY-6. The Russia Zircon differs because its of its shorter range ,however it still relies on the active radar homing from its seeker to find its target which EW can jam Even if you launch from 100 miles away, EW can still throw a wrench in the missile guidance Secondly the whole point of the Cooperative Engagement Capability is counter swarm attacks
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  1810. Lets see , when was the last time anyone brought anything from Russia years ago As far being self-sufficient, FYI, as their claim as world power, they are already supposed to be Second as far power lets recap Russia has lost yet a second A-50 to Ukrainian forces The lost of AWACS in modern warfare to surface to air defense is beyond embarrassing Russia's most modern equipment is all taking modern losses in Ukraine The KA-52 and Mi-28 are supposed be flying tanks per Russia yet 60 KA-52 lost so far as well 13 Mi-28 The T-90 is supposed to be the best protected tank yet over 100 and counting destroyed and thats not counting units captured and sent to West for study The Black Sea Fleet lost yet another to Ukrainian forces, that nearly 20 ships and 1 sub lost to a country with no navy S-400, S-300, Panstir S-1, Tor, Buk, and other SAM units, again getting destroyed wholesale Russia fighting a non tier peer opponents with limited capability has seen whole sale destruction of its best weapons Now imagine if Ukraine was tier Instead of a few aircraft able to use cruise missile, try entire squadrons worth Instead of FPV drones, try gunship with helicopter launched ATGM able to shred armor in one hit instead of drones catching ships at the shore, Actually naval ship to ship combat If Russia is taking a beating like this ,they have no chance against NATO let alone the US Russia borders Ukraine yet after 3 years, they can't seal the deal The US traveled 7000 miles to Iraq twice and Afghan and hand control in weeks FYI, Russian tactical blunder was staying the separatist in eastern Ukraine instead going western Ukraine which would have allowed them to completely cut of Ukranie from the West
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  1829.  @wolfmaster0579  Thats just people who don't know what they are talking about Example The DF-21 is claimed as carrier killer but is far from that In order for it to hit, It needs mid-course and terminal guidance. That is a point for vulnerability as EW jamming can disrupt its communication rendering it useless Same with AWACS killer missiles, again requires mid-course and terminal guidance which if jammed makes the missile useless The missile requires constant updates till its own seeker locks on As long as you can jam before the missiles onboard systems go active, 9 of 10 times, you will survive China's claimed Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS) test doesn't change the fact that advance detection systems can be provide warning The US can defend against any hypersonic weapon currently, the problem is making it cost efficient and accurate The Chinese DFs and Russian Avanguard can be intercepted by the SM-3 very easily but the SM-3 runs between 11-25 mil per missile its very expensive solution The cheaper route is upgrading the SM-2 and SM-6 which why you see the SM-2 Medium Range Block IIIC Active which is SM-2 upgraded with SM-6 tech and the SM-6 SM-6 Block IB which is SM-6 upgraded with SM-3 tech Raytheon has the glide phase interceptor program I will bet the farm that it would the Israeli Stunner seeker which they helped developed fitted to an SM body Shooting them down require more advanced sensors Oddly enough, the MQ-9 with both Broad Area Maritime Surveillance kit and STOL would be easiest solution BAMS has 18 hour endurance ,1200 mile range and able to whatever sensors needs which is an AESA radar and at least 2 Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) instead of E-2D crews on 6 hour rotation, you can crew the MQ-9 directly from the ship
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  1892.  @BravoCheesecake  Incorrect "Quote The book said you could put 13 troops in there. I never saw 13 Americans in a Huey," says Harry Kernahan, who flew the UH-1D "Slick", a utility version without weapons pods, in the central highlands of South Vietnam from 1969 to 1970. "It just wouldn’t get off the ground." "I would imagine we often flew those things over max gross weight," he adds Quote Out of necessity, pilots became experts at using unorthodox methods to coax overweight Hueys off the ground, including an odd-to-see technique where a pilot would bounce the helicopter down the runway on its skids until it got enough speed to gain translational lift and climb aloft. "People came up with solutions to a lot of different problems that weren't in the book," Kernahan says As I stated before The UH-1H only had 1100 shp as you stated allowed it hold up to 10 troops sometimes The V-280 10,000- 14,000 shp allows to consistently carry heavy load without any adverse effects as it literally has power to spare secondly , those troops in Vietnam carried very little gear most of time , Again with V-280, they can carry all their gear and again wouldnt affect the V-280 hat in a future conflict in a jungle environment, you would want to land more helicopters in a tighter space- False That's arm charm statement This is modern warfare We are not going to put troops in a jungle when MQ-9 can easily spot and destroy targets The factor you dont understand was boots on the ground was the only way to find enemy back then Today, there a dozens of ways dont' involve boots on ground
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  1897. That would be false First, the USAF air superiority aircraft are the F-15C and F-22A. The USAF has too few F-22s and the F-15C are very old. There is no way to increase the F-22s but they can increase their F-15s number. Secondly the USAF would not like to replace its F-15s with F-35s. First, the F-15C range is over 1000 miles and get be increased with CFTs to over 1300 miles. The F-35 range is just 660 miles. The F-15 can loiter for hours which is ideal for ANG mission. For the ANG mission, the F-35 stealth is not relevant. The F-35 has AESA as the F-15EX. The F-35 has EOTS/IRST , again so does the F-15EX. Advanced data links and comms. Again as does the F-35 The F-35 DAS and Stealth are the only features that F-15EX does not have More to the point, the F-15EX can equipped with Legion, Sniper and Dragon pods without impacting the F-15EX weapons carriage. Now as far as the single and two seater Again you have no glue. While most the F-15Xs can be single seaters, there are several advantages to two seaters First is training. makes training that much easier Secondly in combat, while the single seaters are spread. The 2 seaters with WSO/EW can quarterback the entire operation allowing the single seater pilots to focus on the mission The USN has tailored 3 EA-18Gs working in tandem can track and identify targets at long range. That some concept the F-15EX can use, the pilot is flying while the WSOs/EWs are working to together to identify possible targets without having to rely on AWACS too much. Secondly for the ANG misson. Again two seater are ideal for the long haul missions that ANG does. Not every mission requires two seaters but its also great to have that option in case. As far as bailing out of Boeing lets see Pop quiz Who makes the JDAM, SLAM/Harpoon Super Hornet, Growler, V-22s, CH-47 Boeing has very very long customer list in the defense industry that hasnt changed much Boeing only problem is he 737 MAX. There are no issues with the 777 or lack of orders
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  1969. The J-20 has literally become useless over night As far countering tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft goes, the J-20 is pretty much becoming useless in that regard One of the unique features of the IRIS-T is that seeker is sensitive enough to allow it to be targeted against both air to air and surface to air missiles The Russian R-77 also claims the same performance ,able to down both air to air and surface to air missiles as well precision-guided munitions The AIM-120D FR3 currently adds that ability to target both air to air and surface to air missiles as does the AIM-260 JATM The F-15EX with AMBER can carry up 22 AIM-120s vs the J-20 load of just 4 BVR missiles ,even without AMBER, the F-15EX still carries 8 AIM-120 The J-20's ability to target tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR relies them attacking from outside defending fighters range,however its moot if the defenders can shoot down the missiles In order to protect the missiles, they will need J-16 EW to jam radar, without , those missiles won't get near tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR and they can't risk getting up close The J-16 problem is that the E-3 , E-2D and the E-7 would not have any issues with its jamming. Unlike the Russia, the US heavily invested in aerial jamming with the EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B, AWACS. Training with these assets makes it easier for them to deal with the J-16s jamming as well EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B counter jamming The J-16 last and by far biggest problem is the RC-135 Rivet Joint and Combat Sent which can read the J-16s jamming So J-20's role has been drastically reduce and only getting worst
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  2053.  @Maliothemaster  Again its called ejection seats not ejector moron. Secondly, the system is only validated when it actually works and so far it hasnt worked versatile means moron that it can cover a wide range of mission types ding dong and again that has not being proven. The Ka-52 has extremely limited combat experience whereas the Apache has proven its versatility across decades hence why India brought Apaches instead of the Ka-52 The Ka-52 has been offered since the latest 2000s and to date only has one actual buyer The Mi-24 series has no problem finding sales as its proven like the Apache wheresa. The Ka-52 has one order outside of Russia and 30 for Egypt No one is interested in a unproven weapon system like the Ka-52 Upgrade kits allow the 70mm hydra to be used with the same precision as guided ATGM at fraction of the cost moron. kits increases the weapon capacity as high as four times depend on which kit is used. It allows the 70mm be used for most targets and hellfire saved for high value targets Again appealing to countries on budget as they can precision guided weapons much cheaper. As for the Ka-52 having more advanced sensors wrong moron The Apache's longbow system can simultaneously attack 16 targets while the Ka-52 can only attack 4 targets simultaneously. All the Apache has to do is rise the longbow radome to fire whereas the Ka-52 has to completely unmask to fire The longbow hellfire can be fired against targets behind obstacles whereas the Ka-52 Vikhr is line of sight only. The Arrowhead ding dong is the latest upgrade to the tads/pnvs system and it was rolled in 2005 while the Ka-52 was still ??? The Ka-52 only has one sighting system in the nose and nothin else
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  2185.  @toasteroven6761  Again not economical to bring that equipment back. 1 C-5 can hold up 16 Humvees whereas Roll on/off ship can hold upwards of 8000 vehicles 1 C-5 can carry up 140 tons whereas ships can carry upwards of 400,000 tons its simple math The amount of flights needed to bring that stuff back completely was no worth the expense its economically feasible vs economically infeasible and there was no literally justification that would have made bringing everything back economically feasible Again economics not priorities. Wrong,the equipment stateside storage is in better condition than equipment that been sitting in Afghanistan for decades and that sells much better than trying to offer scraps from Afghanistan nevertheless, the Taliban got scrap from the US. There were several cases of equipment going missing hence the US never allowed Afghanistan to get any advanced from the or anyone else. They made sure that whatever they got, was not a gold mine. Case in point, Ukraine has handed over several highly advanced pieces of Russian equipment to the US. Most notably several pieces from Khibiny EWS ,Krasukha EWS fully intact Panstir S1 as well T-90s. That type of equipment is worth the expense to bring back due to its value, Afghanistan never gotten anything of value You are basically talking nonsense at this point its economically feasible vs economically infeasible The claim was made that US left billions of dollars of equipment behind but no one ever looked at what was actually left behind just heard a big number
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  2187. @lenin soraisham This conflict has become low intensity which the Russia military is ill equipped to fight Right now its hype vs reality and Russian forces so far are all hype Hype During a reported test conducted by the Russian military in 1999 the T-90 was exposed to a variety of RPG, ATGM and APFSDS munitions. When equipped with Kontakt-5 ERA the T-90 could not be penetrated by any of the APFSDS or ATGM used during the trial Reality Despite claims that Russia ERA can protect tanks from ATGM, Russia tankers were still seen welding cope cages on their tanks yet Russia tanks still were shredded by ATGMs See because of budget cuts, they had to steel instead of Stalinium The Hype he Defense System President-S, also referred to as BKO, is a fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft protection system designed to defeat incoming infrared-guided missiles by laser and radiofrequency/electronic jamming of the missile's seeker. President-S is intended to defeat primarily man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) such as the Russian Igla and the United States Stinger shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles. KRET and Ekran tested this system firing Igla missiles at a President-S equipped Mi-8 helicopter fixed up on a special rig. During the tests, several missiles were fired from a distance of 1,000 meters with no missile reaching its target due to the highly effective jamming. Reality The Ukrainian landscape is strewn with the wreckages of everything from Ka-52s to Su-34s Today a Su-25 was shown badly damaged, yesterday the Russia MOD released a video, hours later, the KA-52 in the video was shown tore shreds in a field The day before, Mi-24 was shown getting absolutely destroyed by a MANPAD. Poor crew barely had time to scream shit
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  2454. As far countering tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft goes, the J-20 is pretty much becoming useless in that regard One of the unique features of the IRIS-T is that seeker is sensitive enough to allow it to be targeted against both air to air and surface to air missiles The Russian R-77 also claims the same performance ,able to down both air to air and surface to air missiles as well precision-guided munitions The AIM-120D FR3 currently adds that ability to target both air to air and surface to air missiles as does the AIM-260 JATM The F-15EX with AMBER can carry up 22 AIM-120s vs the J-20 load of just 4 BVR missiles ,even without AMBER, the F-15EX still carries 8 AIM-120 The J-20's ability to target tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR relies them attacking from outside defending fighters range,however its moot if the defenders can shoot down the missiles In order to protect the missiles, they will need J-16 EW to jam radar, without , those missiles won't get near tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR and they can't risk getting up close The J-16 problem is that the E-3 , E-2D and the E-7 would not have any issues with its jamming. Unlike the Russia, the US heavily invested in aerial jamming with the EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B, AWACS. Training with these assets makes it easier for them to deal with the J-16s jamming as well EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B counter jamming The J-16 last and by far biggest problem is the RC-135 Rivet Joint and Combat Sent which can read the J-16s jamming So J-20's role has quite a hurdles to overcome
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  2676.  @123abcter  Incorrect. AWACS allows for accurate real time tracking which allows forces to kill the problem at the source which is worth the risk Secondly the S-400 missile range is 250 miles. The problem that assuming that the enemy isnt jamming or actively hunting When the enemy is jamming and actively hunting, the S-400 won't have time to engage the AWACS As for sending MIG-31s or Su-35 with the R-37 , while it can engage an AWACS 250 miles , it still requires communication from the Su-35 or MIG-31 to stay on course till its onboard seeker takes over for ARH mode or designation from the Su-35 or MIG-31 in SARH mode However if you jamming comms, the missile is basically useless With missile this size, its seeker range is likely between 30-50 miles The problem with anti-AWACS missiles is that there are too many variables If they fire at max range, as long as the enemy jam communication, the missile can't stay on target If they fire at the missile and use their own board radar, they have contend with jamming but it also requires them to keep the target painted which leave them defenseless to defending fighters if they try to get missile close enough so it seeker can automatically take over ,they have contend with defending fighters once again Newer missiles like the Meteor , IRIS-T , models of the R-77 and the newer AIM-120D FR3 in testing have the ability to shoot missiles out of air Thats Cruise missiles, Surface to air missiles and even air to air missiles While the Su-35 can carry up 12 R-77s, the F-15EX with AMBER can carry up 22 AIM-120 which means 1 vs 1 or in numbers The F-15EX outshoots the Su-35 The ability of shooting the enemy's missiles out of air reduces the threat to AWACS from other aircraft The development of hypersonic weapons for ground targets is other problem for drones and the S-400 as AWACS can track the launch site in real time, they can forward the info another asset with hypersonic weapons Example the AGM-183 at its design speed of Mach 20 can cover 250 miles in 60 ish seconds
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  2924.  @bl8danjil  Again with the asinine comments Quote direct from the USAF The F-15E Strike Eagle is a dual-role fighter designed to perform air-to-air and air-to-ground missions. Previous models of the F-15 are assigned air-to-air roles; the "E" model is a dual-role fighter. It has the capability to fight its way to a target over long ranges, destroy enemy ground positions and fight its way out. whereas the The F-15 Eagle is an all-weather, extremely maneuverable, tactical fighter designed to permit the Air Force to gain and maintain air supremacy over the battlefield Now the F-22 The F-22, a critical component of the Global Strike Task Force, is designed to project air dominance, rapidly and at great distances and defeat threats attempting to deny access to our nation's Air Force, Army, Navy and Marine Corps. and lastly the F-16 The F-16 Fighting Falcon is a compact, multi-role fighter aircraft. It is highly maneuverable and has proven itself in air-to-air combat and air-to-surface attack. The direct quotes from the USAF clearly established that air superiority is the primary mission F-22 and F-15 while both F-16 and F-15E are primary mission is air to ground Again direct from the USAF The aircraft designation was the F/A-22 for a short time before being renamed F-22A in December 2005. I can't tell if you are stupid or just plain dense, the aircraft carried the designation for literally 8 years it changing from F/A-22 to the F-22A again, thats the US military using a new designation system its called Block III moron because no one except you moronic ass fells like saying FA/-18 E/F Block III Super Hornets its simplified to Block III and only idiots like yourself get confused Another reason you just made yourself look like the ass you are that the naming system applies to helicopters and support aircraft like tankers. Such as the C-130 and the KC-130. Wrong The Army's MH-60L DAP: The Direct Action Penetrator (DAP) carries the same load out as AH-64 yet its designated as M not A The USN SH-60, HH-60H, MH-60R and MH-60S like DAP carries same load but again not designated A The KC-130 in USMC service acts as tanker ,transport and with Harvest HAWK as gunship again no name change
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  2966.  @mwtrolle  Wrong on all counts Its not quantity vs quality its called feasible How many Gripens are available right, estimates say just 271 examples Factoring in combat losses, the possibility of accidents and aircraft down time There is no way that the Gripen can meet the Ukraine's needs if Ukraine had 112 Gripens in place of its MiG-29, Su-24,25 and Su-27s and the current Gripens operator had at leas 80 planes each with the Swedish air force with 160 plus, then the Gripen would iffy as feasible goes , they would be able to source aircraft from operators as needed but again SAAB would still need to boost up its production line. The Gripen would be perfect but its not feasible The F-16 is feasible as the USAF alone has 1200 F-16s. They could earmark 200 F-16s for Ukraine as well replace losses with virtually no effort The F-16 does not have the Gripen's ruggedness but has the numbers and weapons to fight on a much wider scale Secondly Right now what needed is the F-16C/D Block 50/52 Plus and UPAZ-1A buddy refueling pod F-16s with AIM-9M/R and AIM-120C-5 gives Ukrainian decent WVR and BVR capability AGM-84 block II plus can strike both land and sea targets 77 to 120 miles away AGM-65 and GBU-12/16 plus the gun is all the weapons the Ukrainian air force needs There is enough older models in the US inventory that would prevent Russia from gleaming anything The block 52 supports Conformal Aerial Refueling Tank System (CARTS) which allows the F-16 to use drogue instead of boom The UPAZ-1A buddy refueling pod fitted the MIG-29s allow them to act as mission tankers Why this is important The Black sea fleet is Novorossiysk which 700 miles round trip. F-16s with CARTS and MiG-29s as mission tankers would be able to strike Novorossiysk with ease As well all targets in Crimea The additional benefit of the CFT has Israeli has done is EW Israel has added in additional EW in the empty spaces on the CFTs which Ukraine can take advantage off
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  2979. @Wolfmaster057 Hypersonic weapons are not overrated, the way China and Russia uses their hypersonic weapons is overrated China took a short cuts and its DFs are massive launchers that can be easily tracked and destroyed. The only ship with hypersonic weapons is their Type-055 again too few to matter. Even the CH-AS-X-13 on the Xian-H6 again too few to matter Russia's hypersonic are pretty much the same , too few to matter The MIG-31 can only carry 1 Kinzhal and they have to be specially modified to carry it Only the upgraded Tu-22M3M can carry the Kinzhal and even then, only carry 4 missiles The Zircon requires specially modified ships and subs which again too few to matter The US AGM-183 ARRW program alone is vastly to superior to Chinese and Russia programs in every way possible 1 B-1B can carry up 31 missiles. Even with the USAF inventory of just 62 planes 5 planes can carry up 155 missiles. The US can literally overwhelm both China and Russia with just 5 B-1Bs each The ARRW range is 1000 miles and claims Mach 20 as its designed speed From 1000 miles, away , at Mach 20, they can strike targets in 4 mins, 2 min at 500 miles The key factor is that B-1Bs with EA-18G jamming can attack both Russia and China defenses from over 500 miles away The current combination of ALQ-99 , AGM-88 and TLAMs gives Russian and China defense both on land and in air ample time to counter attack The EA-18G still has to get close but the high speed of the ARRW reduces the chances of interception by aircraft As for Russia's nuclear torpedo Just more hot air and incredible stupid idea
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  3120.  @imgvillasrc1608  Hence why they are great examples Iraq massively numbered the West with tanks and the NATO forces. Even though the Abrams and Challenger 1 were vastly superior , Iraqi still had the numbers on their side and the only way to thin those numbers out was air power which was jets and gunships Ironically Ukraine and Iraq examples of logistics In both cases, the advancing forces outpaced their logistics and gave the enemy time to dig in For Iraq, it was moot because strikes from precision guided munitions destroyed their fortifications while in Ukraine, it gave them time to destroy Russian forces logistics and forced them to break off their attack The point is why bother trying with the logistic boon trying to bring heavy armor when airpower can do the job faster and more much efficiently Abrams and Challenger 2 going toe to toe T-90s and T-14s would a mixed bag some tanks would be destroyed , some disabled or other damaged In the aftermath , both sides would be working overtime trying to get disabled and damaged assets back into the fight The 500lbs bomb is the trifecta First, its total asset denial. there is nothing to recover or salvage Second, loss of experience crew. It months train crews and many battle for them to gain experience. With tank vs tank, its possible for crews to survive and simply come in another tank and use the lessons from last time ,hence why reducing that tank to a literally a smoking hole on the ground of twisted metal and impact crater is preferred Lastly, its the ultimate in demoralizing the enemy. You send out a force of tanks and no one comes back. You send out your scouts and they report nothing but smoking holes of of twisted metal and impact craters where the force of tanks use to be That would mess up the enemy commander and his subordinates in so many ways.
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  3121.  @imgvillasrc1608  We have ground forces ,however tanks no longer have a role. WW1 and WW2 has nothing to do with modern warfare. Times have literally changed and Air power is the end all weapon when used correctly The Iraqis were the outnumbered force, not the Coalition-False, Iraq was literally the 4th Largest army at time and still outnumbered the coalition forces hence why the coalition opted for 42 days of consecutive strikes which greatly thinned out Iraq's forces. Even the Republican Guard said uncle against consecutive strikes from B-52s Russian forces don't suck, they are poorly equipped. Western aircraft used highly advanced targeting pods while Russian aircraft do not. They rely on their OLS and SVP-24 which have proven to be woefully inadequate Western aircraft munitions are standardized through out their air forces. The Russian KAB-series is not used by any of their bombers and only handful of aircraft can use the KAB and even fewer can used the newer models of KAB. Same with other air to ground munitions, just a mixed bag with no rhyme or reason Long story short, Russia claim has always been that US weapons and tech are exotic and overly expensive while their tech is 1/4 the cost but just as effective Ukraine has proven that notion to be 100 percent false. The point isnt logistics, the point is why bother with tanks 1 Abrams needs 500 gallons of fuel while Stryker needs 56 gallons and JTLV 45 gallons 1 Fuel tanker with 2500 gallons can refuel 5 tanks 1 while same tanker can refuel 12 Strykers up 3 times or 12 JTLV 4 You're assuming that every commander on each side are the same -False, the T-14 and T-90 are Russia's best protected tanks Its not about tactics, its about survivablity Abrams have taken multiple hits in engages and been forced to withdraw while others press on Mixed bag means exactly what I said some tanks would be destroyed , some disabled or other damaged Abrams will not destroy T-14s or T-90 as easily as it did with T-72s in Iraq Why would you send out a force of tanks against a plane that has a 500 ibs bomb? No one in their right mind does that. When such a scenario happens they send interceptors For someone who claims "The one with better strategy and tactics win" you are absolutely clueless on how airpower works and that explains a lot actually Guess is my day for spelling out the obvious The US would deploy E-8 JSTARS provide movements and intelligence while AWACS monitors sky with F-22s at the ready In Iraq, they feinted movements which drew out the Iraqi forces News flash, that tactic still works today. By utilizing a feint, they draw the enemy into the kill box. Once the enemy is in kill box, the strike package launches. EA-18Gs start jamming while B-52s orbiting utilize ARRWs to neutralize Buk, S-300 and S-400. Additional EA-18Gs target Panstir S1, Tunguska and Tor units that might be defending. Enemy AWACS scramble interceptors ,however EA-18G that were jamming the SAMS are now jamming them so they can't provide the interceptors with any information. The F-15Es loaded with 16 JDAMs press to the kill box and go to work. The GBU-54 JDAM uses both laser and GPS and be launched from 15 miles well outside MANPADS. SHORADs are not strong enough to resist EA-18G jamming. While the F-15E are working ,the F-22s are pressing towards the interceptors and enemy AWACS Your false assumption is that strike package wouldnt include counter air assets. The US, UK, France and all Western air forces always have counter air assets when dealing with contested air space. In the case of the US, air fields, aircraft and SAM sites are target one from the start of any conflict so the odds of the enemy having any aircraft to defend is very low
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  3138. Nuclear weapons aside, Russia conventional forces are most definitely irrelevant. Lets do quick check The T-14 was built due to fact that T-90 technology has been compromised by the US several times. While the T-14 is a better tank, its cost has been problem. Russia does not enough to be problem. They have ample stocks of T-72s,80s and 90s but they are no survivable against modern ATGM like.weapons like the Spike NLOS or bombs like SPEAR-3 and GBU-53. Even the T-14 can't survive against those weapons The Su-57 was supposed to replace all Su-27s and MiG-29s and give Russia an aircraft on par to the F-22 and F-35s however its cost and problems during development has reduced its number to just 76. Now Russia has to rely on Su-35s and MiG-35s for the foreseeable future. Both them lack the targeting pods which common place in modern airforces The Lider class is supposed give Russia similar capabilities as the USN has with MK-41 VLS but again no joy The only areas the Russia is not suffering is with submarines, the S-series missile systems, electronic warfare and missiles While it sounds like Russia is maintaining its edge, in a conventional war, that does not help much The S-400 and S-500 are highly advanced however an EA-18G with legacy or the newer NGJ pods can disrupt their radars long enough for ARRW to hit home launched from 350 miles away, an ARRW only needs 1 min 22 secs of jamming which an EA-18G can easily accomplish subsonic weapons like the TLAM and JASSM would require over 15 minutes which EA-18G can't do as that ample time for Su-35 or MiG-35 to intercept as well time for counter jamming. Russia's electronic warfare is only effective if the US gives them time to do so. They can't maintain it 24/7 as it would give EA-18Gs and other electronic warfare would have ample to study it. Russia's subs like everything else suffers from limited numbers
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  3201. How about wrong on all counts F-14, F-15 and F-16 were built with the notion that they had to fight their way in and out of theater The advent of air launched cruise missiles and precision munitions changed that notion Simply put, why fight the enemy in the air when its faster and more efficient to kill them on ground The F-35s uses its stealth neutralizes the enemy defenses while cruise missile strike the enemy's air field all the missiles have to do is crater the runway and taxiways and enemy's air power is stuck till combat engineers can fill in the holes and put matting over it By that time that happens, the second wave of F-35 is already over head and starting pounding the airfield with GBU-12s and 16s As for the enemy's airborne assets ,they are not going to engage as the base is toast its engage and run out fuel or withdraw possibility make to another base The fact fun about this is that it easy to plan Reconnaissance watches the enemy's movements and provides info you can strike when their airborne assets are the lowest on fuel and able either RTB or a hit tanker As for Russia and China's claim about anti-stealth 100 percent hot air To test out anti-stealth measures The US has B-2, F-117s, F-22s and F-35s plus RQ drones whats does China or Russia have China has the J-20s which stealth is hilarious inferior as well as few drone Russia has Su-57 again with the hilarious inferior stealth and a few drones The US has dissimilar aircraft using various designs which neither Russia nor China has Lastly we are in hypersonic weapons now and SAM sites are screwed The S-400 claims 250 mile missile range A Mach 5 weapon would be on its door step in 5 mins while Mach 10 in as little as 2 mins Now good ole Uncle TLAM needs 40 mins to cover that distance can EA-18G keep an S-400 suppress for 40 mins, not on its best day Worst, an Su-35 only needs 7 mins to get with range with R-37s With hypersonic weapons , the EA-18Gs only needs to keep the S-400 suppressed for 2 to 5 mins which it can easily do and still have ample to time to withdraw denying the Su-35 As the US is getting into the air launched ultra long range air to air missile business., enemy AWACS are targets at much longer ranges
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  3228.  @RT-fq3tp  Again Ships have specific assignments besides the CVNs, Amphibious assault groups and supply lines have to be protected as well. Ships are stationed in specific locations for the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System. Ships are also assigned picket duties off coast of US ,Alaska, Guam and Hawaii The USN can't and won't focus its assets like that The cost of you moving ship is creating a hole that an enemy can exploit so no ships will maintain their assignments Secondly AEGIS shorter range is why ships are in exact positions. Their exact positions allow them to create an effective screen so if something does get past them the GBI, PAC-3s and THAADs can take over Now if there is operational need, they have ships in reserve to chose from. "You might want to brush up on modern day war doctrines" You burn whatever book are you getting these idiotic notions A war with Russia and China is going to be very long and very drawn out Keeping the entire fleet at sea is going burn through resources and personnel They are simple not going to do it Short of nuclear, weapon, neither Russia or China has the conventional means to strike US bases on the coasts Russia can attack Alaska with ease but Alaska has plenty weapons China can only attack Guam with DF-26 Neither can send aircraft nor Surface ship they can only send subs and even then its one way trip for them Again wrong its called the MK-41 VLS. DDGs can hold 96 missiles while CGs hold 122 One DDG and CG gives you 218 missiles, you dont need a many ships, just 2 per base with backup from THAAD and PAC-3 Since the ships pulling picket duty, they can be loaded with SM-2/3/6 and ESSM for anti air defense where is this idiotic notion coming from that US need dozens of ships per base You dont put multiple subs in the same area, it causes too many problems They surged them to the SCS but again, each was assigned it own kill box When you are in your own kill box, you spend less time trying to figure out friend or foe
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  3433.  @dave_riots  That would be incorrect For the USAF, the F-35 replaces the F-16 as the workhorse. For mission that don't require stealth , the F-35 has external pylons For stealth, the F-35 switched from tried and true 500lbs bomb to GBU-39/53s in stealth the F-35 can carry 8 plus defensive weapons The point of the GBU-39/53s is light but lethal weapons that can do what the 500lbs does but with considerably less collateral damage at half the weight In addition to building a better aircraft, they have also built better weapons. For the USMC the F-35B main feature is that speed and agility The AV-8B couldn't achieve supersonic flight which limited it. Also its ability to fight against modern aircraft was limited The F-35B achieve supersonic flight and is fully capable of fighting against modern aircraft which gives the USMC more independence Like the USAF, the USMC is opting for the GBU-53 as it light weight makes easier for F-35s to take off from LHA/Ds ships The F-35B smaller bay can't handle cruise missiles but companies are working to give the F-35B the same capability as the F-35A and F-35C For the USN the F-35C is the trifecta First its F-18 fleet which is currently maxed out from wear and tear, the addition of the F-35Cs takes the stress off them Secondly the F-35C sensors are combined both radar and IRST as well MADL can share its data with ships which gives the USN sensor shooter against missiles and aircraft The last is the FA/XX, The F-35C operations and problems at sea gives the USN an example to work from so they can not repeat the problems with the FA/XX as well as option in case of delays with the F-35C Its everything that US military asked for "They want aircraft that can carry more long range bombs and missiles", The US abandoned that thinking , they are building better weapons
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  3478.  @BeatsCraftn  Whole argument sure The USN is fielding new destroyers and sub yearly whereas Russia and China ? Russia hasnt fielded a new destroyer since 1999. The PLAN is fielding new destroyers but very few Destroyers are the principal surface combatants in modern warfare and the US is leading in that area The USN has started on its block IV SSNs whereas Russia can barely afford its Yasen class which planned to have just 10 boats and they have 3 so far of 15 Akulas, Bulk are laid up pending overhaul and or modernization PLAN has just 6 Type 093 SSNs with the type 095 in development. Both Russia and China are banking heavily on DE and AIP to make up the difference but the USN is training with its allies that operate DE and AIP Next is air power The USAF/USMC/USN combined has hundreds of aerial tankers which effectively allows the US to fly its aircraft to anyone doorstep The PLAN air force can barely cover their coastal regions as they have just 3 IL-78s and handful Xian H-6 tankers The Russia air force has just 19 IL-78 tankers for their whole airforce The USAFs 58 KC-10 tankers alone is more than Russia and China tanker fleets combined. Russia has just 17 Tu-160s with one newly built and rest under going overhaul and modernization same as the Tu-22M and Tu-95 The PLAN Xian-H6 is backbone of its bomber force and is basically a joke The USAF modernized its bomber force decades ago All 3 have next gen bombers in the works PAK DA, Xian-20 and B-21 however the PLAN needs the Xian-20 desperately to give it true strategic capability whereas Russia needs the PAK DA its for its credibility as all its bombers are in overhaul and modernization The USAF/USN/USMC are all transitioning to 5th gen aircraft whereas the PLAN has handful of J-20 and Russia still stuck in park with its Su-57 Anti air infrastructure - once again, how many countries can actually cross the pacific or atlantic ? Anti ship missiles, - The US has the LRASM which B-1B carry 20, as can B-52 and B-2 which can PLAN and Russia bombers carry Armour platforms.- Armour days are numbers. https://www.army-technology.com/news/rafael-air-deployable-missile-launcher/ This buggy carriers 8 SPIKE NLOS missiles which can be fired from 16 miles away and capable to destroying any armor regardless of APS or ERA or both
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  3618.  @LaikaTheG  No the better question is are you dumb You can't counter missiles without MAWS and RWR together Secondly MAWS is not an IR sensor MAWS is divided into 3 groups, Pulse-Doppler radar, Infrared, and Ultraviolet systems, 1 type using radar, 1 use IR and the other UV RWRs only detect RF and any RF can potentially trigger a RWR hence why is combined with MAWS to avoid false positive So you literally have no idea what you are talking about lso they weren’t cheap exports migs. Now you are simply trying to rewrite history. its well known and even widely available that Russian export MIGs were watered down The MIG-21 non export models had both RWR and MAWS, the exactly model and features are not known Again you literally have no idea what you are talking about, its like basic research is beyond you The MIG-21 by 1968 were 3rd generation models First generation between 1957 and 1961 likely lacked it ,however the Iraqi air force had MiG-21MF and Bis models Both Modernised models with various types You had said that the f14 didn’t have very many air to air kills to which I replied it had more than the f15 that you were comparing it to. Although impossible for you, lets use simple logic why would the USN ,DOD and Congress care about the F-14's performance in enemy hands? Iran is legendary for over exaggeration. In US hands as no one in the USN, DOD or Congress would give a shit about what Iran was doing the F-14 had very little kills Then you said those kills were a moot point because the f14 out,arched the Iraqis- what in the hell are you rambling So you have literally proved nothing but rambling on on so far as the end of the F-14 is not coming back I already proved that F-18 was the right choice from the start As stated before, The F-18A had AGM-84 ASM, AGM-62 Walleye, AGM-88 HARM and the TV guided versions AGM-65 Maverick from the start The F-14 no such capability By the F-18C, it was can carry the AIM-120 AMRAAM, AGM-84E SLAM and the IR guided versions AGM-65 Maverick Again no such capability with F-14 you are claiming that F-14 could of should of would of ,however it was not tested with any of those weapons except for the AIM-120 Everything have said about the F-14 is literally wishful thinking whereas everything I have stated is already established facts
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  3619.  @josephkugel5099  it would be FAR superior to any Hornet. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!! FYI, that period makes jack and shit as told the other one, you are just making wild assumption, and wishful thinking, the F-14s are shredded never to return while the F-18 is continuing to move on Now What I am sayings is that you are completely clueless The F-14 was built with the stores' management system to accommodate the AIM-54. Accommodating the ALQ-99 is more than just attaching pods If it was that simple, the EA-18G wouldnt exist. Case in the point, the AIM-54 ECCM imposed speed limitations I see absolutely NO reason - here's though ,get some glasses The EA-18G like EA-6B carries the pods on external wing stations with a clear and unobstructed , No possible for the F-14 As for Iran's kills, again, Iran' is legendary for over exaggerations. The key defenses is the F-15 in Israeli's was no exaggeration as the Israel provided the US with information regarding the F-15 strengths and weaknesses allowing them improve. All your so called data is literally hearsay data with nothing to validate it What Iran did literally does not factor in Again wrong, Iran has barely kept its F-14 airborne. The fact that they reversed engineered F-5s but not F-14 show how its too complex for them If Iran was as smart as you claim, they would have been building more F-14, but they can't all they can do exaggerate Again a kill is kill regardless of differences of age and type The Russian air forces using modern R-37s and R-77s against Ukrainian air force Those are all old MIGs and Su-27s that haven't updated since the 90s vs newer and modernized Su-35 You idiots really need to get it through your head ,that no one fights fair F-14D was the most advance fighter during the Gulf war it was not an exaggeration It absolutely is exaggeration. first the F-14D was not delivered in time for the Gulf War, the only models in the Gulf were the F-14A and F-14A+ No D models made it to the Gulf but please continue with the exaggerations
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  3709. The coping is strong with you The shoot down was luck not skill The F-117 was not retired from combat service till 2008 As for the shoot down, the Serbs literally handed the US military multi billion-dollar gift horse and they thank you for that First , Serb defenses exposed the massive short comings with US military SEAD The EA-6B could loiter for hours, however its pedestrian speed 500 mph meant that it could not deal with time sensitive targets The Serb defenses kept popping on and off , and the by the time EA-6B got near, they were long gone The EU Tornado ECR had the speed and weapons but not the sensors like the EA-6B hence why the EA-18G was developed. An aircraft with all 3 Speed, weapons and sensors able to deal with time sensitive targets as well as off and on tactics that Serbs were using. Another short coming was lack of communication , SEAD aircraft could not effectively communicate target info to other assets that were closer than them Hence why link 16 was rolled out to every aircraft . Second, the AGM-88 required radars to be active for targeting. Fast forward to the AGM-88G. The G model is literally a mini cruise able to target anything fixed or moving even if the radar is off, the G model can switch to Active radar homing and zero in. Second fun fact is data linked so the missile can updated with target info The Serb force had plenty of in forest and only F-15E and F-16s with LANTRIN pods could locate them, Now every strike aircraft has either SNIPER or LITENING pods which means there is no more hiding Lastly as for stealth, why do you think , stealth programs are still active, not because the shoot down was skill but countries understood the mechanics of the shoot down and it was literally dumb luck.
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  3863. ​ @ApothecaryTerry  When they sank the Moskava, what did Russian forces lose beside their flagship ? The Moskava had several far more powerful surveillance radars for both air and sea targets than the Admiral Grigorovich-class The weapon capability of the Moskava was also superior. In short, they lost their most capable asset How did that help Ukraine, without the Moskava capabilites , the Black Fleet capabilites as whole was greatly reduced With the Crimea attack, again what did Russia lose. 9 aircraft plus personnel and substantial damage Again how did that help Ukraine Thats 9 aircraft plus personnel that have to be replaced and base that needs repair Russian can lose armor and other equipment on the ground, that's expected but aircraft are extremely hard to replace Russian boasted it was flying hundreds of sorties, What happens when Ukraine forces have knocked out their airfields Without drones or recon aircraft providing intel on Ukraine forces movements, Russian forces are blinded Without aircraft attacking Ukrainian targets, When the West goes in , they go after the enemy's ability to defend and conduct offensive operations Specific assets are targeted, Airfields get smoked so the enemy can't put planes in the air. Air defense units are smoked so western strike fighters have free reign While the Ukrainian air forces does not have many weapons They do have KH-25s and KH-29s. Poland also have both those missiles Which goes to back to Kherson, Ukrainian grounds should have knocked out Russian defenses and had SU-24 strike the bridge The KH-29 has 705lbs warhead it would have easily destroyed key sections of the bridge The Ukraine forces lack of combined both air and ground is killing their progress Again if this was Feb or March, bragging or underperforming would be acceptable but its 6 months later and not only 6 months later Ukraine forces are actually counter attacking using low budget combo of weapons which Russian's forces can't stop? Compared to what the Russian military has access to , the use HIMARS, and other SPA is low budget
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  3875. @Anton Smirnov So in other words,you literally have no idea what you are talking about Lets recap The West has advance targeting pods whereas Russia ??? The West has dual and tri mode bombs whereas Russia KAB-series is still single mode ? Specifically, several western countries have developed precision kits to iron bomb into smart bombs, Russia has no such capability 90 percent of western aircraft has AESA radars whereas Russia again??? And thats just one area Indian refused to buy the Su-57 because of facts not ideology "Defence Minister A K Antony has been saying the FGFA would join the Indian Air Force by 2017. On Monday, his deputy, M M Pallam Raju, told Parliament, “The fifth generation aircraft is scheduled to be certified by 2019, following which the series production will start.” The fact was the Su-57 was going nowhere. Instead of hundreds of aircraft by 2017 In 2017, Russia was still in the prototype stage with a handful of aircraft and nowhere close to building the FGFA Even now, Russian still has just a few examples And your point about Pyotr Ufimcev is what exactly? hes not the first nor will be the last person who came up with a theory that others put into practice Society has been doing that since BC As for the lost of the F-117 Again your point is exactly what ? The USAF lost an F-117 due to limitations of technology at that time. Today, that won't happen even against an S-400 or S-500 In Serbia, SEAD aircraft could not locate SAM sites unless they were actively transmitting. Second, the AGM-88 still needed a source of RF to home in on SEAD also could not see SAM sites hidden in forrest. Weather also played a factor. In gulf where there was nothing but desert ,SAM hunting was much easier Today all those limitations have to fixed As mentioned before Western aircraft have high resolution target pods that allow to ID targets from 30 plus miles away in all weather conditions Instead of solely relying on aircraft with AGM-88s , SEAD can locate targets and vector aircraft with bombs in for the kill Even if the site tries to go active, the SEAD can jam their radars long enough for other aircraft to strike The AGM-88 has been upgraded into all purpose weapon which no long relies on RF homing The lost of the F-117 was more than S-125 doing point and shoot. It took a lot of effort Thats why stealth is still very much active because all the major players understood what and why with the lost of the F-117
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  3995. ​ @puellamservumaddominum6180  Yet the F-35 has no trouble finding buyers whereas Russia Su-57s has been available for export for how now with zero buyers Russia tech gained a reputation in Vietnam and the middle east against US 3rd aircraft. After Vietnam and introduction of US 4th gen aircraft, that reputation vanished over night F-15s and F-16s in Israeli hands decimated middle east in the air and on the ground Between the 70s and present, the superiority of US made technology over Russian has been clear where Russian tech has scored a handful of victories at best Besides Vietnam ,when was the last time Russia tech demonstrated its clear superiority over US. Clear not fan boy claims. The USAF is testing NGAD design right now as they have a lot tech to cram. The USN canx the railgun was because they don't have ship to trial it on The weapons requires a lot of power and few ships generate that much as well as lot of space Secondly Laser weapons are maturing faster than expected. They are smaller and more compact and dont require a lot of space Railgun needs magazine space for its ammunition plus power as well deck space for the weight of gun. Laser weight considerably less and only require power The USN may have canx for ships but its not dead because as land based defense , its has great potential Making land based does not have the constraints of ship borne. As for the USAF NGAD its likely 3D printing They used 3D printing and advanced robotics on a industrial scale and reduced overall construction time from years to weeks. Basically similar to how car are.
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  3996. ​ @puellamservumaddominum6180  Yet the F-35 has no trouble finding buyers whereas Russia Su-57s has been available for export for how now with zero buyers Russia tech gained a reputation in Vietnam and the middle east against US 3rd aircraft. After Vietnam and introduction of US 4th gen aircraft, that reputation vanished over night F-15s and F-16s in Israeli hands decimated middle east in the air and on the ground Between the 70s and present, the superiority of US made technology over Russian has been clear where Russian tech has scored a handful of victories at best Besides Vietnam ,when was the last time Russia tech demonstrated its clear superiority over US. Clear not fan boy claims. The USAF is testing NGAD design right now as they have a lot tech to cram. The USN canx the railgun was because they don't have ship to trial it on The weapons requires a lot of power and few ships generate that much as well as lot of space Secondly Laser weapons are maturing faster than expected. They are smaller and more compact and dont require a lot of space Railgun needs magazine space for its ammunition plus power as well deck space for the weight of gun. Laser weight considerably less and only require power The USN may have canx for ships but its not dead because as land based defense , its has great potential Making land based does not have the constraints of ship borne. As for the USAF NGAD its likely 3D printing They used 3D printing and advanced robotics on a industrial scale and reduced overall construction time from years to weeks. Basically similar to how car are.
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  4010. @Ghastly_Grinner The US is a lot of things but being behind Russia and China in hypersonic weapons is not one of them The Chinese DF are massive 17-19 ton launchers which can not be used globally Secondly those DFs can be targeted by air borne hypersonic weapons China's second again weapon again only limited use as its only aboard their Type-055 destroyers I will give you 3 guesses on how many ways the US can smoke China's Type-055 destroyers The simplest is Mk48 from a SSN to its keel China's air launch system are not operational Russia's Kinzhal is only used on MIG-31K and Tu-22M3M As Russia no long has the warsaw pact countries as buffer The routes that MIG-31K and Tu-22M3M can fly in the Atlantic are very limited Russia's only way to strike is via the Pacific but even then, the USN can easily missile picket with SM-6s Russia's only weapon is the Zircon on the Yasen but they are too few to matter Zircon on a surface ship would get ended by Mk-48s Why is the ARRW vastly superior to China and Russia The ARRW can be used globally with very little effort whereas Russian and Chinese system require considered effort B-1B can carry up 31 or 20 on B-52 which means with just 5 aircraft and EW support, it can shatter any integrated air defence system in one strike Thats surface to air missile sites and airfields KOed No need to target ships With China, the US gets the trifecta The PLAAF will deploy its aircraft and ships 1200 miles out in order to stop US bombers from getting in range Thats targets for SSNs as they can simply wait out PLAN diesel and AIP subs The Chinese ships will be targets for USN and USAF aircraft Lastly, Chinese aircraft again ,easy pickings
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  4116. Army is likely interested to see what tech can be retrofitted to the Abrams They may bridge the Decisive Lethality Platform with upgraded Abrams SEPV5 or even revive the M1A3 for high low mix As for the 130mm No likely two key points, Ukraine and depleted uranium Ukraine forces have captured and turned over T-72B3, T-80BVM and T-90s to west While the armor packs may not been up to spec, the tanks themselves still yield valuable data as for weak points as well exactly thickness of the armor in key locations If the T-72B3, T-80BVM andT-90M did have actual Relikt ERA installed , then West will able to accurate performance data on how well their armor-piercing, fin-stabilized, discarding sabot (APFSDS) perform against Russia's second best ERA Countries in EU have banned their militaries from using depleted uranium rounds. This is where is get funny The belief was that the existing 120mm rounds would be unable to penetrate Russia's newer ERAs like Relikt and Malachit hence the development of the 130mm The West acquisition of Russian armor will make or break the 130mm gun. The US has no such restrictions with DU hence why they are bullish about the 130mm Tungsten rounds can achieve penetration but DU has penetration plus additional effects. DU is naturally self sharpening. So even against composite armor, it still retains its shape. Tungsten is not naturally self sharpening and will blunt depending on the composite armor. DU is very dense metal, only few metal and alloys are denser than DU. DU''s most prized effect is that its pyrophoric, it literally self ignites When the round makes contact, its burns and remains sharp. That combination has proven to highly effective against armor The West acquisition of Russian armor, specially allow the US to test out the effectiveness of its new M829 round If the US quietly announces M829A5 or they are trying their hat into 130mm program it probadly means that results were not stellar.
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  4264.  @Mordalo  Ah yes, denial The US would easily dominate both Russia and China ," Notion that The US could not win against Russia currently. We could not win against China either" is pure propaganda lets recap The USN DDGs and CGs all have the MK-41 1 Vertical Launching System which allows USN ships to mix and match between 90 to 122 missiles depending on ship class The Russian navy only ships with VLS is frigates and the 2 Kirovs'. The rest of their fleet is The Slava , Sovremenny and Udaloy class are woefully out of dated and obsolete The Chinese has upgraded their Type-52D with VLS and the newer Type-55 ,however pound for pound, the USN still out guns both Russian and Chinese ships The Chinese Type-52D VLS capacity is 64 cells while the DDG-51 class is 90-96 cell. The Type-055 carries 112 while Ticonderoga class carries 122 Most importantly, the US RIM-162 ESSM can be quad-packed 4 missiles in 1 cell which allows USN ships to carry more missile per cell and substantially more missiles than both China and Russia ships The US military greatest strength is tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft which again China and Russia lacks The Russian military only has a handful of Il-78 tankers and rest is buddy store kits. The Chinese are in same boat but far worst as their only tanker is the modded H-6 The Chinese planned Y-20U tanker only carries up 90 tons of fuel The US has KC-135, KC-10, KC-130, MC-130 and other assets for aerial refueling , Sorry but when it comes to keeping aircraft airborne , neither Russia or China can complete Same with AWACS and C4ISTAR , the US has plenty while Russia and China have very little to know Ah yes the famous missiles designed to intercept those assets , sorry no such luck. The newer models of air to air models can shoot does missiles out of the sky The AIM-120D FR3 and AIM-260 in testing both have upgraded seekers sensitive enough to target missiles like the R-37 ,PL-21 and PL-15 China's claim DF-21/26 and Russian Kinzhal are easily countered with range. Idiots like you dont understand that concept By staying at long range, the USN maximizes its interception capabilities Even though simple math is too much for The DF-21 claims Mach 10 with 1000 miles range which means it needs 8 mins to reach its target, at 500 miles 3 min 56, the closer the USN gets, the less time they have so why would the USN get close when they ample tankers to send their aircraft over 1000 miles away they wouldnt clown The Kinzhal is the same boat
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  4303. If Ukraine the time and numbers that wouldnt matter The JAS-39 is a lightweight powerhouse and Ukraine would do well with it but I think honestly, Ukraine will look for something else Problem one The F-16 can use AGM-88s while JAS-39 cant The AGM-88 is essential for hunting SAMSs, jammer and other EW sites so its must for Ukraine so if SAAB wants to sweeten the deal with Ukraine , they need to work on adding the AGM-88 s Problem two As Sweden is party to Convention on Cluster Munitions (CCM), they wouldnt be able to add cluster munitions to the JAS-39 Ukraine has uses cluster munitions to great effect. While the Alternative Warhead (AW) which produces 182,000 pre-formed tungsten fragments over area has been some what effective Ukraine has found that standard cluster munitions are far more effective both in anti personnel and anti materiel affects Ukraine used ATACMS with cluster munitions to shred Russian bases. The F-16 can use CBU-87/89/97 cluster munitions while the JAS-39 due to CCM , SAAB cant support or even allow it Lastly, the JAS-39 is only intergrated with KEPD-350 which Germany has refused to Ukraine. So for long range precision strike , its Storm Shadow which Lockheed can add There is the possiblity of JASSM-A Basically With the F-16s , there are very few hurdles with weapons whereas the JAS-39 has alot Honestly, the F-18E/F or Eurofigther Typhoon would be better in the future Ukraine issue with EW and Jamming, I wouldnt buy the EA-18G or Typhoon EK I would follow the Israeli air force path with taking a business jet and making it in to EW platform as well AWACS killing birds with one stone
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  4326.  @yellowtunes2756  t's about flying without being interfered by enemy planes, which is the case for Russia-Wrong true air superiority is total and complete control of the battlespace It's impossible to destroy every piece of equipment on the opposite side- Wrong USA lost 10k planes and helicopters in Vietnam.- You best statement is war decades ago that has nothing to with modern warfare your copium is hilarious Lets get the propaganda out of the way, if Russia destroyed 10 himars and 6 pzh2000 in August, they would have wasted no time parading the wreckage for the world to see yet nada. US military developed Persistent Air Support (PAS) which allows for total control of the battlespace. The first asset is the UAVs such as the MQ-9 which can function as both reconnaissance and strike asset The second is the E-8 JSTARS provide Airborne ground surveillance (AGS) as well communicates with the MQ-9 The JSTARS also provides battle management and command/ control of aircraft. Russia has neither The newer EA-18G can network together with multiple aircraft allow them generate targeting tracks for hostile radio-frequency sources in real time They narrow targets to down to very very small areas. Again capability that Russia does not have US aircraft carry Litening, LANTIRN and SNIPER XR targeting pod, Russia aircraft lack targeting pods The only Russian aircraft with an actual targeting pod similar to the Western pods is the Su-57. The MIG-35 OLS is basically the 80s era Pave Spike pod hopeless out dated JDAM, PAVEWAY, JSOW, JASSM, HARPOON and SDB I/II are standard to virtually all US military strike aircraft B-2 can't use PAVEWAYs or SDB I/II but it can use most everything else Lets look at Russian aircraft Not one Tu-95, Tu-22M or Tu-160 can use any of the KAB-series weapons ,more to the point only few aircraft can use them ? Same with missiles. In short, the Russian air force virtually no commonality with weapons, its literally a sock draw of capabilities The Russian air force convinced itself that SVP-24 was good as the western targeting pod and that has been proven false The short comings of the Russia military is endless Strange how the Su-33 and MIG-29K are on the sidelines It's impossible to destroy every piece of equipment on the opposite side- Wrong Its not about destroying every piece of equipment, its about rendering the enemy combat ineffective which the Russian air force isnt doing The way you render an enemy combat ineffective by neutralizing their supplies and weapons its 10 months later and that has yet to happen
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  4362.  @allisonmarlow184  No he is not. Your detailed explanation is absolutely wrong as neither you nor him have a clue We can't give them tanks out of our stockpile for many reasons but top of the list is that our "as is" Abrams have super high tech bells and whistles that we can't risk getting into the hands of the Russians-FALSE The M1 was built in 1975. M1IP in 1984. The M1A1 between 1985-92. The M1A2 in 1992 and the M1A2 SEP since 1999 M1A2 SEP has upgraded to SEPv2, in 2007 SEPv3 in 2015 and SEPv4 in development since 2022 According to estimates from various sources, For the M1A2 upgrade programme, more than 600 M1 Abrams tanks were upgraded to M1A2 configuration at the Lima Army tank plant between 1996 and 2001. Deliveries began in 1998. February 2009, the US Army TACOM life-cycle management command (TACOM LCMC) awarded GDLS a multiyear contract worth $81m to upgrade 30 M1 Abram tanks to M1A2 systems enhancement package version 2 (SEPv2) configuration. GDL won a $2.6bn contract from the US Army to upgrade up to 786 M1A1 Abrams to the newly configured M1A2 System Enhancement Package Version 3, in December 2017. The US Army TACOM LCMC awarded a $49.7m contract to GDLS in February 2015 to upgrade M1A1 Abrams tanks to the M1A2 SEPv2 configuration. GDLS secured a $92.2m contract modification to upgrade M1A2 SEPv2 tanks to the M1A2 SEPv3 configuration in December 2015. The US Army placed orders with GDLS for the upgrade of 100 M1A1 Abrams to M1A2 SEPv3 configuration in July 2018. The US Army has awarded a $714m contract to GDLS to upgrade 174 M1A1 Abrams tanks to M1A2 SEPv3 configuration in January 2019. The US Army has ordered more than three brigades of M1A2 SEPv3 tanks, taking the number of tanks ordered in 2018 to 274 The US Army has only been upgrading a fraction of its tanks to SEPv2 and SEPv3 They still have thousands of tanks since sitting with tech circa 1999 M1A2 SEP configuration or older So the notion that tanks from 1999 represents a security risk is completely false as they don't have any of newer SEP upgrades
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  4364. That would be incorrect Russian war in Ukraine has highlighted the Russian military short comings After Vietnam, the US military dropped mountain of money on developing targeting pod , stand off precise guided munitions, Electronic warfare and Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD. Later they again dropped mountain of money on UAV moving them from RQ to MQ lets recap the situation Virtually all US strike aircraft and bombers have either SNIPER XR , Litening LANTRIN or ATFLIR targeting pod Only the Su-57 and MIG-35 have targeting pods and even then the MIG-35 pod is not true system Targeting pod can id targets on ground from over 20 miles away What Russian aircraft do is their OLS system however their OLS is nose mounted so they have view limited visability as the OLS is meant of air to air not air to ground The lack of sensors is why Russian aircraft have to get low and why they are getting smoked Virtually all US strike aircraft and bombers can use the JDAM. With the exception of the B-2 , virtually all US strike aircraft and bombers PAVEWAY LGB Russia uses the KAB-series however no Russian bomber can the KAB series and only handful of aircraft can use the KAB-series Weapons like the JSOW, JASSM, LRASM, GBU-39/53 again common to virtually strike aircraft and bomber Again with Russian very little commonality That lack of commonality has greatly limited its effectiveness of it weapons and aircraft During the war in Iraq and Afghanistan , the US found that its EA-6B and EA-18G EW suites were able to track EM and RF sources from cell phones and hand held radios 3 networked together can generate targeting tracks for hostile radio-frequency sources in real time over a designated area Russian relies heavily on ground based EW suites which can only jam communication Image if they could track signals in realtime like the US can The MQ-9 is another asset they wish they had Designed for Persistent Close Air Support (PCAS) the MQ-9 can orbit for hours as well as strike various targets up 20 miles away Long story short What Ukraine has shown is that Russia's claim that their weapons and capabilites which they claim are just as good as the US but at 1/4 for cost is literally not as good as the US and basically worthless
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  4386.  @PerceivedREALITY999  Russia borders Ukraine yet after year and half, they have gotten no where The US traveled 7000 miles to Iraq and Afghan and had both those countries on their knees in a matter of weeks Let that sink it Russia's tactical blunder was failing to secure western Ukraine By not securing western ukraine, Russia did not cut ukraine off from the West and thus why Russia is currently getting its ass headed to it lets recap how they screwed up Since Ukraine still has open line they have gotten Javelins which have been shredding Russian armor. HIMARS which have sticking with deadly precision, Pzh-2000, CAESAR and other high mobility western 155mm systems. Last but not least Patriot systems if Russia was not an incompetent jackass, and had cut off Ukraine from the West, this conflict would have been over by April of last year instead, they have let Ukraine gain a path to victory Russian's weapon against the US was GPS jammers. Thanks to Ukraine, the US now knows exactly how they work Russia's Ka-52 and MI-28 have been attacking and once again thanks to Ukraine, the US now knows that its Stryker SHORAD will be ineffective so they have gone back to plans for using the AIM-9X and AIM-120C-5 for SHORAD. The AIM-120C-5 range allow massively out range anything that the KA-52 or MI-28 could carry and unlike MANPAD, the AIM-120s warhead would shatter a KA-52 and Mi-28 like glass Lastly, the Patriot , NASAMS and IRIS-T are all designed to be network centric which means they transmit data in real time Once again, Russia's constant missile attacks has only been feeding the West with vital info about Russia missiles and aircraft
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  4389.  @Alexlucic93  That would be false First QE even at surge capacity still carries less aircraft than CVN Secondly with 300 people, how many are below deck in the magazines building up weapons, how many are moving them and how many are in the flight deck doing arm/dearm on aircraft. plenty with room to spare 30 people are working on max 36 aircraft in normal operations while the CVNs has over 75 The highly mechanised weapon handling system does not compare as its operating with far less aircraft and types of weapons The UK F-35s carry the ASRAAM, Meteor/AIM-120, SPEAR-3 and PAVEWAY IV which is not a lot of weapons CVNs carry up to 2500lbs class weapons from bunker busters to cruise missiles As for as space again wrong CVNs has space for fuel for aircraft, weapons and supplies plus it carry fuel for escorting ships if needed QE has to have space for its own fuel, then aircraft fuel ,weapons and supplies So during replishment, they just need fuel for aircraft, weapons and supplies whereas the QE adds needing for itself so its spending more time connected to tanker whereas CVNs spend less The British are essentially getting 75% of the power projection of a US carrier for less than 1/3 of the price. FALSE The British are getting 15% of the power projection of a US carrier if even that Lets recap USN flight decks include E-2D which vastly superior to the Crownest in use by the UK C-2 and CMV-22B for carrier onboard delivery which the UK lacks EA-18 for EW. The F-35 can perform EW but not to the level as the EA-18G Aerial refueling capability. The USN can use buddy store, the future MQ-25 , or land based whereas the UK has to rely on land based The Marines are fielding a aerial refueling capability for their MV-22s which the USN can also use or adopt for their own CMV-22B For the anti-ship, CVNs have the option of the LRASM, Harpoon, SLAM-ER or JSM The QEs F-35 has no anti ship nor cruise missiles for that matter And thats for openers
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  4390.  @Alexlucic93  The US is already has two hypersonic weapons programs in testing and near ready for deployment whereas the UK/France project is where exactly ? The Future Cruise/Anti-Ship Weapon (FC/ASW) or Perseus is still a paper project and wont be ready anytime soon For starters "UK MoD Further Details Interim Anti-Ship Missile Need Through Contract Notice" UK MoD sent out bid for its I-SSGW which supposed to cover RN till 2030 Another statement from article "The Royal Navy has set the requirements for a Surface-to-Surface Guided Weapon (SSGW) to ensure they maintain the ability to deter and defeat enemy warships. A competition is now taking place and on current plans, subject to funding, we expect bids to provide a solution to SSGW, by mid-2021" The UK Mod wouldnt be asking for bids for interim weapon if (FC/ASW) as you claim was to be ready soon And point about the smaller crew is what exactly There is reason CVNs are called "floating cities They have extensive repair capabilities, including a fully equipped Aircraft Intermediate Maintenance Department, a micro-miniature electronics repair shop, and numerous ship repair shops as well 3 million US gallons (11,000 m3) of fuel for her aircraft and escorts, and enough weapons and stores for extended operations without replenishment. " The refuelling MV-22 will undoubtably be given to the Royal Navy as they’ve already operated from QE and the US marines say it’s the best ship they have ever been on. The U.K. are already working on a refuelling drone. She has also been designed to be CATOBAR or STOVL. Currently STOVL is sufficient if that changes she will be converted. Also as always the U.K. has already designed a Rolling landing procedure which saves fuel and allows aircraft to land with their payload. Your kidding yourself if you think 4,000 crew do not take up a huge amount of space compared to 1600 Again ding dong, the CVNS are 1092 in length and displacement over 100,000 tons. heres thought, they might of thought when built it And you really think a carrier should be armed with anti ship missiles? are you really that stupid one F-18 or F-35 can 4x LRASM or JSM moron, Yawn Yawn and even more on your bs information
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  4408.  @PaulV.  How about no As stated, disastrous humiliation for Russia no matter how you try to spin it. The US traveled 7000 miles to Iraq twice and Afghan and hand both on their knees in weeks The reason why is why Russia is failing in Ukraine The US first order of business to cutting both countries off and limiting what outside sources could do Russia's tactical blunder was not securing borders at Moldova, Slovakia, Poland and Romania By not cutting off Ukraine from the outsource is why we are 18 months into this conflict Lets look at other disastrous consequences The KA-52 and LMUR has been very successful however the cost of that success is that it has show the West that MANPADs as SHORAD wont work against the KA-52, MI-28 and Mi-35s To that end, the West countries have dusted off old program where air to air missile were used as SHORAD with missiles that massively out range anything Russian gunships could carry Russia's weapon against the West was GPS and EW Thanks to Ukraine, most of that has been revealed to the West NASAMS, Patriot and IRIS are network centric and transmit in real time so every Russian attack with missile, drone and aircraft that data has been sent back to the West The T-14 is expensive so the stop gap has been more T-90 variants T-90/A/KM/S/MS has either been destroyed or captured in Ukraine So disastrous humiliation for Russia no matter how you try to spin it. Russia's has claimed its lancet drone is highly effective ,if the US was in Ukraine ,they would have MQ-9s with 8 Hellfires or JDAM for Persistent Close Air Support (PCAS) unlike the Lancet, when the MQ-9 drops steel, there is no doubt its destroying what it hits
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  4512.  @CoreyANeal2000  Incorrect.the point of developing M982 Excalibur and other precision rounds is 1 round 1 target. Unguided rounds depending on the skill of crew was average of 3 to 10 rounds GPS is simple load and shoot. The Excalibur S uses semi-active laser targeting allowing for more precise shots but Laser warning receivers are common place now Thanks to lessons learned in Serbia, the US military has heavily invested in SEAD/DEAD sensors and weapons so there is no risk In a pier to pier conflict, sophisticated air defenses are not a problem Russia and China's push with hypersonic weapons has made such defenses moot Case in point, The S-400 missile range is 250 miles. Launched from 300 miles away Most subsonic crew missiles need 35 minutes to reach an S-400. That mean EA-18G has to jam for last 30 min which makes them vulnerable to defending fighters The Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM) covers that distance in 3 mins The Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW) also can strike within 2 mins launched from 400 miles away With either missile, the EA-18G only need to jam for 2-4 mins Enemy cant respond in any case. All missiles has to strike is communication and radar and the site is useless Follow up strike can target command truck and missiles later on The Hawkeye can be airfielded only be sling not internally carried , it would need a redesign for internal carriage but its range is still just 12 miles at best The problem with the Stryker SHORAD is that desperately need a modern warfare upgrade
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  4551.  @solinvictus1234  False again Poland made its decision in 2022 for AH-64E for tender. The lie that you are trying sell is for the AW101 not the AW249. Poland has license to built the AW10. Leonardo tried to use that deal to leverage for Poland's Kruk program however they lost , there was never any deal for the AW249 False again for the billionth time Leonardo has no license to build AH-64E. That ended when the Apache MK-1 was retired ,more to the point, no one has a license for AH-64E Quote the UK Ministry of Defence announced a $2.3bn purchase of 50 new AH-64E Version 6 (v6). Rather than entirely new-build aircraft, select airframes from the current AH1 fleet were sent to Boeing’s Apache production line in Mesa, Arizona, to be disassembled and partially re-built. The first two of the new aircraft were delivered via Boeing C-17 Globemaster III to RAF Brize Norton in November 2020 before continuing to Wattisham Flying Station by road. By early 2022, 14 aircraft had arrived in the UK and the type entered service. The remaining 36 are scheduled to be delivered by summer 2024 in time for the retirement of the AH1 Quote the UK will be able to draw on a global supply chain for its new Apache fleet – with all the benefits in terms of availability and economies of scale which that implies – since its AH-64Es will be almost identical to those being flown by the US Army and other international customers. This will enable the British Army to either reduce operational costs for the Apache fleet So again false Lastly ,they are called the British Army not Royal Army and there is no such conversation The AW249 only confirmed orders are 48 for the Italian Army while the AH-64E has over 1400 orders UK has repeated many times that the reason for buying new built AH-64E from the US is to reduce operational cost by increasing commonality false again
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  4552. False again Poland made its decision in 2022 for AH-64E for tender. The lie that you are trying sell is for the AW101 not the AW249. Poland has license to built the AW10. Leonardo tried to use that deal to leverage for Poland's Kruk program however they lost , there was never any deal for the AW249 False again for the billionth time Leonardo has no license to build AH-64E. That ended when the Apache MK-1 was retired ,more to the point, no one has a license for AH-64E Quote the UK Ministry of Defence announced a $2.3bn purchase of 50 new AH-64E Version 6 (v6). Rather than entirely new-build aircraft, select airframes from the current AH1 fleet were sent to Boeing’s Apache production line in Mesa, Arizona, to be disassembled and partially re-built. The first two of the new aircraft were delivered via Boeing C-17 Globemaster III to RAF Brize Norton in November 2020 before continuing to Wattisham Flying Station by road. By early 2022, 14 aircraft had arrived in the UK and the type entered service. The remaining 36 are scheduled to be delivered by summer 2024 in time for the retirement of the AH1 Quote the UK will be able to draw on a global supply chain for its new Apache fleet – with all the benefits in terms of availability and economies of scale which that implies – since its AH-64Es will be almost identical to those being flown by the US Army and other international customers. This will enable the British Army to either reduce operational costs for the Apache fleet So again false Lastly ,they are called the British Army not Royal Army and there is no such conversation The AW249 only confirmed orders are 48 for the Italian Army while the AH-64E has over 1400 orders UK has repeated many times that the reason for buying new built AH-64E from the US is to reduce operational cost by increasing commonality false again
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  4620.  @JethroBodineWhooWee69  Thats not what was said Miley's statement Milley said Russia has lost "strategically, operationally and tactically" during a joint news conference with the US Defence Secretary, Lloyd Austin, The Guardian reported General Mark Milley, Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said that neither Russia nor Ukraine is likely to achieve their military aims, and he believes the war will end at the negotiating table, With Ukraine's current capability and the restrictions in place , that may be true however if the West lifted all restrictions Ukraine would be able eject Russia from its territory in a matter of weeks The HIMARS's deadliest weapon is the ATACMS which can strike targets up 190 miles away carry 500lbs warhead Ukraine only has the M31 with 200lbs and 50 mile. The ATACMS would allow Ukraine to strike Russian targets at 3.5 times further The Ukrainian air force MiG-29 and Su-27 are basically useless Ukraine with F-16C/D Block 50/52 with CART and KC-130s would change that unlike the MiG-29and Su-27 The F-16 can fully use the AGM-88 in all modes additional the F-16 can carry JDAMs, MAVERICK, PAVEWAYS and most importantly Harpoons As the F-16 has the MIL-STD data bus it can be equipped with European made KEPD-30 and Storm Shadows The CART allows the F-16 to use drogue for aerial refueling Aerial refueling would allow F-16 to strike the Black Sea Fleet any where in the Black Sea KEPD-30 and Storm Shadows would allow Ukraine level Novorossiysk and Sevastopol.effectively putting out of commission completely Both missiles 300 mile range allows them to attack without getting in range of S-400 or R-37s If the West lifted all restriction this would not end at the table
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  4755.  @drfelren  The MiG-31 requires special conversion to carry the Kinzhal. All the hardware for the R-33s and R-37 as well associated power systems had to be removed. It can only carry 1 Kinzhal and It carries no weapons for self defense. Effectively its sitting duck if enemy fighters get in range. Lastly, one missile So unless you are going against a target with no defenses to speak off, 1 missile per plane is pretty insane not mention what lost of the aircraft would greatly effect you combat capabilities The Tu-22M3M carries 4 missiles. The USN trained in 80s to defend against waves of Tu-22s with 3 KH-22s as the Russian had close to 400 Tu-22s. Normally 8 bombers per wave which was 24 KH-22s The tactic was 3 waves of Tu-22s per USN carrier would only cost the Soviets 240 planes which for them was acceptable That was whole reason why they developed countermeasures for dealing with swarm attack Its 2022, Russia only has 63 Tu-22Ms and only 30 will be able to carry the Kinzhal While the odds were no the USN favor in the 80s The current widespread usage of AEGIS , MK-41 VLS , SM-6s and Cooperative Engagement Capability allows the USN to deal with high volume attacks with ease So insane that Russia actually believes that the US can't counter the Kinzhal But the biggest insanity is Russian's usage of it in Ukraine The West has intel aircaft all over and you are giving the US clean look at the missile performance, flight profile as well reading its EM and RF emissions ???? you can't rationlize Russia's crazy
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  4803.  @bushwackenbubba3988  Its called scale On the tactical scale, Ukraine forces are beating the brakes of the Russian forces but on the strategic scale Russian forces are still making gains Zelensky knows that they can't win this conflict allow with tactical victories, they need to fight Russian forces on the strategic scale in order to win this conflict Norway is currently looking at giving Ukraine both NSM and NASAMS as well as the UK with Harpoons both systems are exactly what Ukraine needs to fight Russia on the the strategic scale Naval Strike Missile (NSM) has both land and anti ship capability but its key feature is its advanced target discrimination It can go after specific targets or locations.on a ship. The Harpoon benefit in land attack mode is that its 488lbs warhead can completely destroy fuel depots and munition storage as well large groups of targets. The Russian navy can easily stay out of range but that just means that Ukraine forces can focus on attacking Russia land assets in and out of Ukraine. if the Ukraine employes combined arms like the US does, they can inflict serious damage on the strategic scale Using drones like the Switchblade, to knock out defenses, then attack with either Harpoon or NSM to completely destroy the target Most bases can be destroyed with 8 missiles targeted at precision locations Fuel depots, munition storage, vehicle parking, command and control, communication and other assets critical to Russia as operating force Both the NSM and Harpoon have coastal defense units which allow them to shoot and scoot As for the NASAMS An advanced air defense with 5 times the range of MANPADs and able to hit aircraft at any altitude as well as is shoot and scoot with anti missile capability Zelensky knows he needs more weapons
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  4819. Ultimately in order to drive Russia out of Ukraine, Ukraine need 3 pieces The first is knocking out the remaining surface combatants and 4 Kilo class subs of the Black Sea fleet Why that matters, without those ships, Russia's ability to strike from the sea neutralized, Russia's ability to blockade Ukraine also done Russian forces resupplying from ships , again gone. Taking out the Black Sea assets would be massive blow to Russian operations in Ukraine For this they need long range precision strike capability. While the HIMARS missiles have 200lbs warhead,, the Harpoon 487lbs does more destruction per missile Why the Harpoon The newer blocks of the Harpoon have both land and sea attack capability and range between 75 to 150 miles. Besides have 3 times the range of the HIMARS M31s but slightly shorter than the ATACMS, the key advantage to Harpoon is that launchers on trucks are quad packed. With ATACMS its 1 on HIMARS and 2 on the M270 The Harpoon coastal units carry 4 missiles. , So with the Harpoon , you more missiles per launcher The Harpoon's ability to attack both land and sea targets give Ukraine the ability to neutralize the black sea fleet as well strike other high value targets on land As the Harpoon's warhead is like dropping GBU-12 The next piece is integrated air defence system (IADS) With IADS, It puts the already strained Russian aviation assets in difficult position as well provides protection against cruise missile attacks The last piece is their aviation assets Missiles are good but aircraft are better The only plane for this job is the F-16 and its amazing simple The F-16 has the CART CFT which allows to use drogue instead of boom which means that Ukrainian air force cause Su-27s as tankers The Ukrainian air force only need 5 weapons, AIM-9Rs and AIM-120C-5 which are both late 90s tech so even if they ended up in Russian hands they are still decades out dated, AGM-65s and GBU-10/12/16 and AGM-84 again , the US has plenty of older models from the late 90s that wouldnt betray anything to Russia if they got their hands on it. Same goes for the 20mm gun. The F-16 is also LANTRIN capable which is still in use and again old tech If Ukraine gets all of these its game over for Russian forces
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  4886.  @maksimluzin1121  What about the multi-layered different range air defense and fighters/interceptors of your opponent? They will watch silently to your actions and wait? No you are differently a moron First Armor is mobile , advance air defense units is not. The Panstir S1, Tunguska and Tor can travel with the armor and fire in a matter of seconds whereas The S-30 and S-400 requires minutes to stop , set up, and be ready to fire. Same with the Buk, has to to stop , set up, and be ready to fire. While those units are moving or setting,they are vulnerable to attack, Secondly F-15E, Eurofighter and F-35s can attack those sites with cruise missiles launched well outside to their weapons range. Now pay attention ,and you are game down, you dont' put fighters/interceptors up in the same airspace as your air defense units Thats friendly fire and no the missiles cant tell the difference , so if you put up fighters/interceptors in the same airspace, your ground can't fire stupid as they risking hitting allies Now pay attention By sending ATGM teams after the enemy air defense equipment, you create opens that can be exploited, while enemy is scrambling to close the hole , aircraft are giving enemy armor the business, its called tactics and planning moron And the Tunguska and Shike being used against ground forces matters because? More to point how they are going be used if they are destroyed S-300/S-350/400/Buk meet anti-radition and cruise missiles as well ATGMs teams Its called modern warfare for reason
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  4918.  @Frenchfrys17  That would be false The best 155mm system reaches 43 miles. Loitering munitions launched from the back of JLTV depending on model can reach over 100 miles Other types of surface to surface also massively out range artillery More importantly, it can strike precision against fixed or moving targets Artillery is a lot of things but far being the god of war. Once aircraft got precision weapons, arty become moot The JTLV doesnt need heavy armor, it has light weight and flexibility which is military are prefering over heavy armor They were seeing armor kills using lightweight mounted fires from the joint light tactical vehicle at ranges of 15 times to 20 times the distance a tank was previously achieving. “We can kill armor formations at ­longer ranges using additional and ­other resources without incurring a 74-ton challenge trying to get that to a shore, or to get it from the United States into the fight,” Smith said. “You simply can’t be there in time They cost a lot in acquisition, maintenance, fuel and logistics when compared with other platforms. Speaking at the International ­Armoured Vehicles Conference on Feb. 10, Lt. Gen. Eric Smith, deputy commandant for Combat Development and Integration, argued that early ­experiments already are proving a smaller, more effective force for ­anti-armor than bringing tanks to the fight There is a another quote from a Marine General that stated that Ukraine validates the USMC decision to divest its tank force
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  4919.  @Frenchfrys17  Right because the Marine Corps sole mission is fighting China, wrong how about actually reading the full context instead of cherry The Marine Corps shift is to make the Corps a much more flexible rapid response fighting force As the Smith said Armor cant get there in time Ukraine all conventional aircraft is mostly grounded due to the immense air defense network presence in Eastern Ukraine-False The Ukraine air force is ground because they have no capabilities to speak off For air to air combat, their only weapons are short range R-73s and R-27s while the Russian air force has both R-77s and R-33 that massive outrange the R-73 and R-27s The Russian air force has AWACS and Aerial Refueling tankers while the Ukrainian air force has neither Lastly the Ukrainian air force only has handful of short range missiles and unguided weapons while Russia has plenty of long range and precision bombs if the Ukrainian Air force had actually gotten JAS-39s back 2014, you would see a completely different fight as the JAS-39 has access to full range of US and EU weapons Like AIM-120 and Meteors to match the R-77s and R-33. JDAMs, PAVEWAYs, ,MAVERICKs and a number of long range precision cruise missiles Loitering munitions themselves are also easily intercepted by active protection systems and SHORADS.-False again counter-active protection system (CAPS) capability hit targets at higher impact angles of up to 70 degrees. APS effectiveness drops off at high angle Loitering munitions can provide near 90 degree drops on target. SHORAD can't engage loitering muntions as they fly too low but that also requires that Armor needs a SHORAD unit present which itself goes back to point of SEAD which would suppress any SHORAD So again wrong
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  4920.  @Frenchfrys17  And it would be 1000 words of nonsense Quote Army "The Army will now focus on upgraded lethality efforts, according to the statement, such as the Medium Caliber Weapons System, the Common Remotely Operated Weapons Station-Javelin, Anti-Tank Guided Missile updates and the 30mm cannon because they can “provide better distributed capability" The USMC The experimentation that we’ve done now to date successfully using lightweight mounted fires – think the back of a Joint Light Tactical Vehicle – is killing armor at ranges, through calculation, about 15, 20 times the range that a main battle tank can kill another main battle tank, He added the Marine Corps didn’t get rid of its tanks because they weren’t good at taking out adversary tanks, but rather “we can kill armor formations at longer ranges using additional and other resources without incurring a 74-ton challenge trying to get that to a shore, or to get it from the United States into the fight. You simply can’t be there in time.” Both the USMC and Army are doing exactly what I stated, The USMC completely divested it tanks in favor JTLV variants while the Army is focused on both its Stryker and JTLV None of your comments does not change the factor both USMC and Army are moving away from heavy armor As for tanks, When Tank Plinking was coined 1991 where US aircraft were dropping 500lbs laser guided bombs on Iraqi tanks which decimated upwards of 80 percent of Iraqi Armor. The writing was on the wall for tanks Russian forces using armor is they have no options left. While the US spent a fortunate on the SNIPER/LITENING/ATFLIR targeting pods as well upgrades for JDAMs, PAVEWAYs and the Small Diameter Bombs as well E-8 JSTARS and MQ-1/9s for its Air Power and Battle management Russia made no such investment with its air force hence why they have been basically useless. If the Russia had same capabilties as the USAF things would be very different but as with everything with Russia in Ukraine, their shortcomings have been painfully apparent Their KA-52s and Mi-28 are getting smoked because they lack precision missiles. Most of videos you are of them running and gunning on targets very few videos show them strike precisely The US upgraded the Hellfire in all purpose weapon and the videos of Apaches in combat, you see they are not shy about dropping hellfires on targets Apaches and MQ-1/9s will smoke anything with hellfire literally The Turkish TB-2 has exposed a massive chink in Russia's EW. The MQ-1 and 9 use SATCOM while the TB2 uses mainly line-of-sight propagation, Russia's EW was designed to target the SATCOM signals not LSP The Ukrainian air force can come off the bench if they get the right weapons and go after the Russia remaining assets in the Black Sea Battleship became obsolete because of poor thinking What the USN should have done is remove the obsolete Mk7 guns and made room for missiles and lighter guns Remove the rear turret and replace it with twin-arm Mk-26 system from Ticonderoga class The MK-26 on the cruisers was 44 missiles, they could have easily gotten double that number Add a hanger large enough for 2 SH-60s Remove 2 turret and fit a second Mk-26, the longer size of Batteship can accomdate larger missiles like the Harpoon Lastly remove the first turret and replace it VLS The BB has potential but it was wasted
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  4921.  @Frenchfrys17  No , you actually didn't read the article per your pointless response. The articles clearly show the current direction of militaries and heavy armor is not in the cards As for self propelled howitzers, they are evolving into lighter more flexible systems The Swedish Archer Artillery System weighs just 30 tons. The French CAESAR just 20. Even the newer M1299 is just 40 tons Self propelled howitzers are considerably lighter than tanks and unlike tanks, the size of 155mm makes development of longer range and more advanced much simpler No I am bringing up modern warfare Why waste time trying to bring armor to bear when achieving air superiority allows for total control Once you control the air, the everything on the ground becomes moot Wow you knuckle draggers you are stupid When dealing with an enemy with, integrated air defence system (IADS) , The first aircraft in F-18s launching ADM-160s aerial decoys with F-35s in stealth with AGM-88Gs.with EA-18Gs at ready to start jamming. Once the decoys reach the designated point, the EA-18Gs starts jamming allowing the F-35s to easily close to 100 miles and fire off AGM-88Gs , Thats just 4 missiles for command truck, radar, missiles and Panstir The Panstir when linked the S-400 radar benefits from its advanced nature but it if its jammed, the Panstir is screwed as its own radar is not powerful enough to resist jamming. This is the current plan based on the US military existing capabilties Now the future NGJ pods as well HALO, HAWC and ARRW weapons change this picture from the current 20 minute exercise to just 1 minute 30 secs depending on weapon used An ARRW launched from an F-15E covers 350 miles in 1 min 23 secs , an EA-18G can easily suppress any radar for 1 min 23 secs The ARRW payload is not knew but with 1000lbs warhead, it would easy cripple an S-400 site As far as 4th gen fighters attacking S-400, they have air launched cruise missiles which allow to attack well outside S-400 range Apache flying nap of the earth can and have in past penetrated IADS its called tactics for reason
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  4936.  @ZOV24-2-22  How about no FPV drones are working in Ukraine because both sides are ill equipped to deal with tme There are a few solutions to the FPV issue however one that is gaining traction is upgrading active protection system (APS) with additional launchers with programmable airburst round either low velocity HEDP 40mm rounds or high velocity 30mm AHEAD rounds so adding the new features to the existing assets allow them to test options for counter drones Second, the US wouldnt have Ukraine problems in a conflict Russian forces are caught unaware 90 percent of the time US forces have Joint Battle Command-Platform (PM JBC-P) which is carried by all forces and can be equipped even to HMWVVs For battle management and airborne ground surveillance . the USAF used the E-8 JSTARS giving forces on ground real time info on enemy movement Even though the USAF retired it, the US Army has been allowed to buy a replacement for it While Russia doesnt take SEAD/DEAD seriously The US has EA-18G, F-16CJ, EC-130H ,Rivet Joint and Combat Sent as well as E/A-37 in RD and the bulk of US aircraft can use the AGM-88., ADM-141 and ADM-160s The US has a whole arsenal devoted to destruction of enemy defenses and also thanks to Iraq and Afghn, Electronic warfare sensors are far more precise Lastly, the US wrote the book on drone warfare with the MQ-1 and MQ-9 As the US takes SEAD/DEAD seriously, Ukraine wouldnt have SAMs to target aircraft and the US would have its airborne ground surveillance , AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft opening with impunity
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  4937.  @Fng_1975  Fall from Glory: The Men Who Sank the U.S. Navy, Well that explains the source of your misinformation Lets gets the simple one out of the way First what is the author's credentials , he has none. Did he ever serve a day in military, no one, He's nothing more than investigative journalist making false assumptions. Randy Duke Cunningham who advocated for the Sup Bug over the Sup 21 Tomcat. Btw, he went to jail for receiving bribes from defense contractors. Vietnam War ace and Congressman Duke Cunningham criticized the Super Hornet as an unproven design that compromised air superiority. So why did the Duke change his mind Not because he was bribed Retired U.S. Navy pilot and Vietnam Ace, U.S. Rep. Randall "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif.), took the throttle of the U.S. Navy's new F/A-18E/F Super Hornet on Saturday, Feb.7, flying the strike fighter for 1.3 hours. On the ramp immediately following the flight, Rep. Cunningham said, "I loved it! It's a great airplane!" He went to jail for receiving bribes from defense contractors which has nothing to with Boeing as if you actually read allegations not reading someone made up story He criticized the F-18E/F so Boeing allowed him to actually fly it. So once he got behind the controls and actually handled it, his perception changed as he actually handled the aircraft and found to be better than expected no one has come out against the book or it’s author since it was published in the late 90s and has been praised for its blunt honesty." You confusing the fact no one gave a shit about his book. The book was released Feb 26 1997,the F-18E/F entered low-rate production began in March 1997 with full production beginning in September 1997. So despite the book release and alleged acclaim for its ts blunt honesty, the plans for the F-18E/F went forward as no one gave a shit about it Quote "Grumman proposed substantial improvements to the F-14 beyond Quick Strike, but Congress rejected them as too costly and reaffirmed its commitment to the less expensive F/A-18E/F" The Secretary of Defense can make requests but its still up to Congress to decide. Cheney tried to defund the MV-22 ,however was overruled by Congress both times So solely saying that Cheney did it even close to reality. Next, here’s your DOD budget 101 class. Navy requests money and when they receive -WRONG instead of making asinine assumptions try actually reading it , you might actually something Department of the Navy Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Materials Provides for a deployable battle force of 285 ships in FY 2023. Procures 9 battle force ships in FY 2023 (2 SSN 774, 2 DDG 51, 1 FFG, 1 LHA-6, 1 LPD-17, 1 T-AO 205, and 1 T-ATS-6) and 51 over the FYDP. Funds 4 other construction efforts (2 LCAC SLEPS and 2 ship-to-shore connectors). Aircraft procurement funds 96 fixed-wing, rotary-wing, and unmanned aircraft in FY 2023 (13 F-35C, 15 F-35B, 5 E-2D, 10 METS, 5 KC-130J, 10 CH-53K, 26 TH-73A, 3 MQ-4C, 4 MQ-25, 5 MQ-9A) and 420 over the FYDP. As I stated before, its completely different pots The USN didnt' choose wrong What conflict has the USN been in where the F-14 capabilities were needed , not one
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  4942.  @Clean97GTI  That would be false The BRU still required the corresponding LAU unit for mounting. Second, the APG-71 has nothing to do with AGM-88 and or AGM-84 Weapons require interface via MIL-STD data bus and stores management system. Proposed is exactly that ,proposed not proven The USN lack of interest is why the F-14 was shelved. The F-15 for example by 1990 had enjoyed several upgrades whereas F-14 was still relatively behind The Bombcat was too little to late There is this thing called aerial refueling, only been around since the 50s Yes the Harpoon's 170mm range was shortcoming, the LRASM range is over 310 miles so much for that theory The MIG-29K couldnt touch the Hornet on its best day lets break all reasons this is the best joke you wrong First the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov has no AWACS able to spot the F-18 Their AWACS is the KA-31 helicopter and the newer KA-35. I will give you 3 guess on how well that radar works and its range here's a hint, its under 100 miles Secondly Russian ships with the S-300F system can only spot targets up 50 miles away The Kirovs with S-400 range again just 160 miles While AESA radar is common in the West, AESA is not common in the Russian military The MIG-29K Zhuk-ME is PESA and its range against aerial targets is 75 miles It par with APG-73 but outclassed by APG-79 Additional without EA-18G support, the APG-79 can simultaneously jam and target the MIG-29K The F-18 can carry 10 AIM-120s to the MIG-29K 6 R-77 Lastly the F-18 has been upgraded to Super Hornet whereas the MiG-29K is still very much junk FYI, thats not counting fact that F-18 has , E-2D and F-35 to back it up whereas the MIG-29K back up is the even more worthless Su-33
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  5002. No Dassault is part of the FCAS program Here's the rub, Dassault tried to market that Rafale alone and it failed miserably The Rafale was become operational in 2001 .Its 2021 and there are just 237 built. India's mega deal of 126 ended only being 36 aircraft Despite the Rafale's claim of Omirole, it performance on the market been outclassed F-15Es, F-16V and F-35s. France has been offered Rafales from its own airforce to countries so they can buy the newer F-4 So even this order from the UAE is just a joke in the end On the other side of the coin is the Eurofigther Typhoon Much more successful but was still extremely problematic program which hurt its sales on the market as no one want to put for upgrades The US remained committed to F-35 and it massively outselling everything else on 5th gen market None of the 5th gen program on the market can't compete with the F-35 China FC-31 has gone nowhere since 2012 same as Russia Su-57E India, Pakistan and Turkey's programs are just pipe dreams Sweden has signed on with the Tempest Japan developed the X-2 but now is rolling to the 6th gen they brought F-35 for their 5th gen needs Dassault knows that building a 5th gen at this point would be waste of time More like a repeat of the Rafale Because the US is likely not going to allow the USAF NGAD and USN FA/XX to be exported The window opens up for Dassault build a 6th gen for the market Because of the problems with Eurofigther Typhoon development. Some of them have joined Dassault's program Right now they are not worried about the US, they are worried about the BAE Tempest The FCAS and Tempest if both are successful, they will be competing in the EU and other countries If successful, they may be able to achieve similar success as the F-35 with the nations that haven't gone 5th or looking for something But if the US does allow the NGAD or FA/XX to be exported , then both FCAS and Tempest will have major problems
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  5238. Ukraine is simply exposing how badly Russian forces conventional capabilities are lacking if the US was in Ukraine, it would have been over a long time ago What Ukraine has show is that Russian lacks Persistent Air Support (PAS) , SEAD, and intel For SEAD, the US has EA-18Gs, F-16CJ, and EC-130s for dealing with air defense So far ,Russia has been able to neutralize Ukraine's Soviet Era SAMs but not the newer Western systems The US would be actively hunting and destroying SAMSs With SAMS out of the picture, PAS with MQ-9s would actively hunting MLRS and artillery unlike loitering munitions, the MQ-9s carries Hellfires ,and JDAMs which will 100 percent destroy would they hit If Russia made drones like the MQ-9, HIMARS launchers and other SPAs would have been destroyed long ago Lastly Russian intel Ukraine's president has been traveling back and forth with ease The US would have been had F-22s or MQ- waiting Others areas that Russia is lacking is aircraft capabilities All US aircraft have targeting pods for precision strike Russian aircraft dont have pods and that is why so many of their strike aircraft have been lost they are getting within MANPAD range and getting smoked 22 Su-34s lost The F-15E across 7 conflicts is fraction of that its possible for carriers to come under attack but impossible for that to be destroy as easily as others claim Lockheed has developed 500kW DEW for the Army and the DDGX is planned to have 600kW if the USN commits to SM-6s launched by F-18s, 500-600Kw laser weapons to DDG and CVNs, PAC-3s along SM-6s from VLS and Hyper Velocity Projectile (HVP) from Mk-45 guns and an working Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo (CAT) system with Anti-Torpedo Torpedo Good luck with that
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  5271.  @Chuck_Hooks  Aircraft require do require support but if Ukraine wants a realistic chance of pushing Russian forces out , they need aircraft Ideally the JAS-39 but they dont exist in the numbers that Ukraine needs so the only choice is the F-16 To get the F-16 up to speed only takes 4 months. The pilots go to nearest country with F-16 sim and start training Since they are already pilots, they simply need familiarization. 2 weeks in the sim. 2 weeks in the books 1 month of flying in the two seaters learning all the tech. 1 month solo flying and 1 more of practical application The norm is 12 months but if you condense it the essentials , 4 months is doable The maintenance personnel spend 4 months working along aside F-16 maintenance personnel in Poland They can learn the day to day requirements and troubleshooting very easily For more advance problems, western personnel can help and there would nothing Russia could say because they do the exact thing with their own aircraft that export Have advisors on hand for problems For weapons just keep it to the essentials. AIM-9 and AIM-120s for air to air. AGM-84 ASM and land attack. AGM-65s and GBU-10/12/24s for general purpose plus the gun The F-16 is rated at over 30 types of weapons,however Ukraine only need 5. The GBU-10/12/24 hardware is the same The F-16 has the CART which allows it use the drogue instead of boom for aerial refueling. The MIG-29s could be adapted in tankers for the F-16s No one denying that bring a fighter into service will be process but Ukraine needs them more than HIMARS Example, the Kherson bridge, The F-16 with GBUs or Mavericks would have knocked that bridge out in strike Russian ships docked in port again, smoked with a single 2000bls GBU-10 targeted at the waterline Russian airfields with KA-52, Mi-28 and MI-35s Two F-16s with 6 Mavericks or 6 GBU-12s , completely knockout in one strike
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  5348. @Drew Peacock Shooting at 2500 miles is more advantage for the USN than China. Even if it does travel faster, time is still on the USN side At Mach 20, or 13,050 miles per hour , its still 12 minutes roughly. The DF-series is only a real threat at closer ranges like 700 miles on down The SM-3 and SM-6 are both expensive 19 mil for the SM-3 and 5 for the SM-6 however CVNs are billions each. 6-9 bill for CVN-68 class and 10 plus for CVN-78s class The planned buy for SM-6 is 1800 missiles at a cost of 6.5 billion and 300 plus for the SM-3. The USN plans to replace the existing SM2 with SM-6. The wrinkle is that USN has been successively upgrading the SM-6 which is making it more capable but also more expensive. Same with SM-3, its been successively to be more capable but has it made extremely expensive per shot. https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/sm-3/ With 10 carriers group with 20 missiles per, thats 200 SM-3 deployed hence why the USN is upgrading the SM-6 with SM-3 technology, its not as expensive so they can afford to fire more. There are other options but the SM-3 and SM-6 are the only ones with highest chance one shot one kill The USN has no ship for its railgun yet. The HVP rounds from the 5 inch guns are promising but still years away from being practical In order to kill a missile like the DF-21/26, you need a 300 kW plus per shot. The DDG-1000 has the power but the cost of modding it would be expensive DDG-51 dont have the power unless you remove one its VLS and replace it would generator/capacitor The only choice is the LPD-17s but no one made 300 kW weapon yet, everything is below 100 kW BeiDou-1' will only get the missile to the target area, its own seeker has to find the target. The seeker will face heavy jamming They can operate at max range but that makes it easier for the USN to target and destroy. Max range gives the target a lot of time to pay with TLAM: Range 1,300km to 1,700km depending on the variant. - JASSM: Range 370 km. - JSOW-ER: Range 22km to 130km depending on the altitude it's released from. - JSM: Estimates range from 280km to 560km. - LRASM: Estimates range from 370km to 560km. Wrong info The JASSM A range is 370 where JASSM-B range is over 1000 km JSOW-ER range is 560 km, 22-130 is baseline JSOW Secondly sub launch is low threat for the sub. First it wont launch if ships are nearby second, once its launch how exactly will China counter attack a sub? unless they get lucky and have sub nearby , ? Even with nearby sub, the bulk of the PLAN subs are diesel , they dont have fuel to chase down a US SSN Also launching is easy way to draw enemy ships and subs into a trap Even anti sub marine aircraft would still need to close enough. Once the sub fires, its going deep and heading home China or Russia can't possibly be attacked until the threat from their IADSes and anti-ship missiles has been neutralised and we don't currently have any way of achieving that. Again wrong Russia is bordered by how many countries. Remember the cold fear was thousands of russian tanks invading the EU. The US can easily go through the EU on ground and knock Russia defenses and missile via special forces or aircraft. China has the same problem well protected like Russia in pacific but there is a backdoor in Arabian sea Bengal bay. Dont assume that US is going to attack from only one direction. Yes battle plans for a major shit storm in pacific but there are other ways into Russia and China Thirdly the proposed launch aircraft are the B-1B, B-52 and F-15, all of which are unstealthy.They could all be shot down by J-20s and other ground-based aircraft, carrier-based aircraft or ship-based anti-air missiles. False The PLAN/PLAAF lack the tankers to extend the J-20 range far enough to intercept. Using 1000 miles as base line, the J-20 would have be orbiting at 1200 plus miles Also again assuming that they wont overlfy India or Pakistan, Afghan, Taji , Kry Banagladesh , Myanmar. Nepal is just 400 miles from the Bay of Bengal so they can launch from there too B-1s and B-52 can launch without threat The S-400 rated up to Mach 15 , the ARRW is Mach 20 Why are missiles being built that for the most part clearly aren't fit for purpose and don't have sufficient range? its not about the missile, its how you use it
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  5349. @Drew Peacock "You didn't address my comments above about UNREP and the DF-26" That would be a waste of time as using DF-26 ships is waste of time A destroyer or cruiser at max speed can change its position by 11 miles , CVN at max speed by over 17 miles. Even ship at 20 knots would be able to change its position by 8 miles. The DF-26s at max range cant target ships accurately The DF-series is only target at closer range. thats the point Assuming those figures are correct, there are currently 68 active Arleigh Burkes and 22 active Ticonderogas in the USN. That's 90 ships in total. 300 SM-3s works out at 3 per ship. As I said, they're so expensive I didn't think ships would carry many and this figure confirms it. No, wrong metric. There 10 carrier battle groups with 4 to 5 CG/DD per group. One ship with 20 SM-3 works out to 200 missiles with 20 missiles per battle group its simpler to equip per battle group than per ship. They are planning to have enough SM-6s per ship but the SM-3 cost limits it to per battle group here are other options but the SM-3 and SM-6 are the only ones with highest chance one shot one kill What are the other options? DEWS weapons One shot one kill is very optimistic when it comes to shooting down extremely fast ballistic anti-ship missiles. Missiles can always miss. You didn't respond to my suggestions re other ways to take out DF-21s and DF-26s. The problem with those methods is that they are terminal phase weapons whereas the SM-3 can intercept boost ,mid course and terminal, phase the SM-6 is mid course and terminal phase How so? They've already been tested Firing 20 rounds is not operational clearance. All that does is show that the gun can handle HVP ammo They havent done a complex firing like they do with SM-3 and SM-6 against maneuvering targets They can operate at max range Well you're contradicting yourself now. You originally claimed DF-21 and DF-26 couldn't operate at maximum range SMH with 20 minutes to spare A destroyer or cruiser at max speed can change its position by 11 miles , CVN at max speed by over 17 miles. Even ship at 20 knots would be able to change its position by 8 miles. the DF-26 range is 2500, just by moving 8 miles , you are out of its effective range. When you fire a weapon at targets at the edge of its range, odds are, the target will move out of range every time Not in an environment where there are enemy subs, sub-hunting ships & helicopters, carrier aircraft in the air, maritime patrol aircraft, geostationary satellites, over-the-horizon radar, a seabed sonar network and surface and underwater drones. unless they are close by, it all of that is worthless. Like I said, they wont launch if enemy ships are present and the PLAN does have not ships to cover the pacific even with over watch, aircraft still have to reach the target area or by near by. You still have to get the weapon to target you are assuming best case that they get lucky but USN is not just launch a TLAM with an enemy with 100 miles of it a seabed sonar network may be able to track it but once its goes it deep and slows to 5 knots, its a ghost Heading home? Why would a sub head home after firing a TLAM? Why would I stick around after letting the enemy know I am here. I would head home for safety as you stated its environment where there are enemy subs, sub-hunting ships & helicopters, carrier aircraft in the air, maritime patrol aircraft, geostationary satellites, over-the-horizon radar, a seabed sonar network and surface and underwater drones. Shoot and scoot tactics "The US can easily go through the EU on ground and knock Russia defenses and missile via special forces or aircraft. Which aircraft exactly? Using which ordnance exactly? As for special forces, how are they going to get into Russia in the first place? China has the same problem well protected like Russia in pacific but there is a backdoor in Arabian sea Bengal bay. Arabian Sea? Bay of Bengal? How are they backdoors to China?" You are moron point blank,
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  5386.  @Qwiv  Its combat, lives will always be at stake regardless. The scope is having options not only one option. The counter UAS , there are several systems in development First the Epirus' Leonidas high-power microwave (HPM) array mounted on which is designed counter drone swarming weapons. The system is currently mounted on IFVs Second USMC Ground-Based Air Defense which is 3 parts Marine Air Defense Integrated System (MADIS) is JTKV with 30mm cannon and 4 tube Stinger, MK-2 is L-Marine Air Defense Integrated System (MADIS) which radar/jammer on MRZR Lastly, the Medium-Range Intercept Capability (MRIC) which basically a mobile variant of the Israeli Iron dome And thats just the US There is massive push for counter-UAS weapons So yes, that is over reliance Secondly there are no other options The Amy dumped OH-58s in favor drones however in a contest airspace , drones would have problems operating effectively and the Apaches dont have the sensor payloads for recon Drones in Ukraine is highlighting the limits of Russian SHORADs They were designed to go after TLAM, F-16s , F-15s ,gunships and much larger UAVs Ukraine has few aircraft ,few cruise missiles and even fewer gunships so Russian defenses are facing threats they were not designed to handle The TB2 enjoyed success initially till Russian defenses got their act to together and that was that for it Ukraine itself, is using Flakpanzer Gepard to great effect against drones and loitering muntions Germany has developed the Skyrange 30 and 35 which are modernized Gepards but unlike the Gepard has both hard kill and soft for counter UAS
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  5608. @wolfpack571 China's DF-21 and DF-26 are regional weapons so their usefulness is very limited. Combined with the fact they are large transports, there are several to kill them before they can be used. Ironically a submarine launched TLAM with EW support has good chance of knocking a DF site out. Its the reason why the US isnt that worried about them. Hypersonic weapons have plenty of uses. Example a B-1B can attack the Russian S-400/ S-500 or Chinese HQ-9s with ARRW by closing to just 350 miles.From that range time to target is just 1 min 22 seconds. an EA-18G can easily suppress Russian S-400/ S-500 or Chinese HQ-9for that long. Chinese aircraft with PL-21s or Russia MIG-31 with R-37s have to close within 180 miles or the B-1B and EA-18G will outrun their shots Without Russian S-400/ S-500 or Chinese HQ-9 support, USAF/USMC/USN can get that much closer ARRW can target airfields by attack key points such as fuel dumps, weapons storage and command/control it would take too many to knock out the runway, hence why the TLAM-D would be better for that job ARRW can knock out Chinese DFs. without the DF-21/26, China has no area denial capability against CVNs en-mass strikes at enemy facilities can be done with ARRW knocking the defenses and TLAM/JASSM finishing things off The USAF ARRW is weapon with many uses since the B-1B and B-52 easily deploy globally with them on moment notices The USAF just need to stay the course with its development and it will give the US a massive advantage over both Russia and China
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  5612.  @hughmungus2760  Again its called time to target Even with bigger booster is not going to negate the distance the ASAT has to travel 12000 miles away at Mach 20 is still 45 min Ample time for counter an ASAT You do realize that China also rely on its sats for targeting the DFs again moving both communication and location Once both sides go ASAT either other, its going get messy very quickly Unlike China ,the US has options The DF launchers are not going be "located deep inland, several hundred miles from the coast" it called simple math, the further inland, the missile, the further out it has to travel By placing located deep inland, several hundred miles from the coast , you are reducing its effective range The USN is only going bring its carriers to a distance of 600 miles away. At that range, its aircraft only need one trip to tanker in and out secondly it gives them nearly 5 minutes of reaction again DFs Even without CVNs ,nearbly, Growlers can still be refuel in the air by F-18 with buddy store The Growlers and Hornets fly as package, once they reach the edge of the combat space, they top off The F-18 with buddy store depart to refuel while Growlers begin the operation They are not looking for a different frequency, they are looking for source emission and location They are looking to see where the signal is coming from You have chinese military communications coming from the forest then something might be there You have chinese military communication coming from a warehouse You take the location and compare with road ways These locations have road ways that lead right to coast line to large open spaces with asphalt
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  5869.  @Popeye_the_Haterman  The Abrams is typical supported by several other elements which scout ahead and perform reconnaissance both on the ground and in the air The US army supports its troop on the ground with RQ-7, MQ-1C from the air. If RQ-7 or MQ-1C are not available, troops carry RQ-11 with them The USMC uses ScanEagle and RQ-21 BlackJack for air and RQ-11 on the ground The USAF supports both with MQ-9s All these UAVs have highly advanced sensor payloads allowing them to easily spot threats We are not seeing Russian forces use any UAVs in this manner. And as the saying goes, what you don't see will kill you and thats what's happening to Russian armor They are not spotting the ambushes , they are getting rektted Secondly the Abrams has Remote controlled weapon station (RWS) . plus the gunner and commander sights which allows it to look in multiple directions at once Most of the Russian tanks lack RWS and they can only look where the gun is aimed. Russia tanks are built around a carousel autoloader. Pro gives them sustained rates of fire, Con, the ammunition is in turret with crew As seen many times, if the ammunition cooks off , its sayonara for tank and crew The Abrams ammo is stored in the rear of the turret separate from the crew. The top of the ammunition storage has whats called blow out panels and the access in the turret is via armored door. r if ammunition storage is hit the door slams shut. its called the path of least resistance which allows the explosive force of the ammunition to be directed up and away from the crew Unlike Russian tanks, if there is ammunition explosion, as long as the crew is inside with the hatches closed and nothing interferes with the safety features 9 out of 10, they will survive. and Abrams would simply have the turret replaced
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  5870.  @Popeye_the_Haterman  As I stated before, Russia's tactical blunder was leaving Western Ukraine open to the West. Their plan was very straight forward and if it had worked, they would have had Ukraine under control in 2 to 3 months The plan was capture Antonov Airport which was only 6 miles away from Kyiv and use it as base of operations With Antonov Airport in their hands, the plan was landing 18 IL-76s of additional forces As Kyiv was only 6 miles away , its was likely armor and artillery which would have allowed Russian forces to lay siege on Kyiv as well as established a buffer between the West and Ukraine which would prevented Ukraine from being supplied with additional weapon Effectively , Ukrainian forces in Eastern Ukraine would be surrounded by forces from Kharkiv, Kyiv, Odessa. Mariupol and, Luhansk with Russian forces cutting Western Ukraine off from the rest of the country. Basically if they had succeed, Eastern Ukraine would have been massive kill box for them So blunder number one why in the name of insanity would you launch an airborne assault like this in broad daylight When you are trying to secure an objective like this , you do it under the cover of night Blunder number two where was forward arming and refuelling point (FARP) at? Russian forces were forced to withdraw as they lacked air support Again with an assault like this, you normally have a FARP set up nearby so your gunships can be quickly turned around and back into the fight Blunder number why IL-76s ?? One of the things that US military spends on is aerial refueling capability for aircraft Specifically, MC-130s transports as well MH-60 , MH-47, MV/CV-22 and CH-53 medium to heavy lift helicopters can be refueled in the air The US would have sent MH-60 with troops to secure LZ nearby as well as strip for MC-130s to land or drop cargo while MH-47 and CH-53 heavy lift light armor and artillery Have AH-64s fly in with just external fuel tanks to the FARP sit where they would exchange them for Hellfires and 70m hydra rockets Coordinate with the USN launching of TLAMs against key targets at airport. Once the missile hit, the airborne forces move in Again for reasons unknown, Russian force did no coordinate with missile strikes from fixed but instead attacked with gunships The key difference is that US forces would be attacking after TLAMs had laid waste to key targets, not trying to attack them on fly like Russia did Russia didn't pay the cost of upgrading its gunships weapons with better precision capabilities and are paying for dearly
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  5882.  @monumentaltravel3745  The F-16 more than enough to do job The notion that F-16 is not ideal is Russian propaganda The Black Sea Fleet has enjoyed impunity because the Ukrainian air force has no way to attack The F-16 with Harpoons can attack Russian shipping. Even with baseline Harpoons, the range is 120 miles and the defenses on the frigate max out at 31 miles F-16 would be able lob Harpoon after Harpoon at Russia ships In order to protect the Black Sea Fleet, the Russian air force would have to operate from bases in Crimea While Ukraine few Su-24 to use Storm Shadow, the F-16 can be easily integrated with it which would strike against Crimea that much easier GPS jammers affect JDAMs but PAVEWAYS and MAVERICKs are unaffected by jamming More the point, they can be laser guided allow Ukraine forces for precision strikes against moving targets The older LANTRIN can be supplied to Ukraine as the newer SNIPER XR and LITENING are what the US military used Ukrainian MiG-29 and Su-27 can only use AGM-88 at fraction of its capability while the F-16 can fully use it all modes Lastly, while MIG-29 and Su-27 limited to old and outdated R-27, R-73 and R-77s as well have very limited supply F-16 can use AIM-9P/R and AIM-7, AIM-120C-5 and those are in massive supply Also fun fact, the F-16 can CBU-87s The F-16 is very much the ideal for Ukraine Russia's problem is that F-16 can also carry ADM-160s aerial decoys One simple tactics is to launch ADMs while 2 F-16 approach at low level against A-50s ,Il-22 and Il-78s Everyone is Russia would send MiG-31 and Su-35 after kinda hard to do if Ukraine goes after the A-50 in air or land and knocks them out Sure Ukraine could lose an F-16 or 2 in process but the lost of tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft would be massively worth it both tactically and strategically As far the S-400 and other air defense, if the Ukrainian air force is taking load of ground forces , they would be free to go after S-400 sites
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  5898. The odds you are not going to see very much dog fighting in modern warfare The development of hypersonic weapons has made dogfighting moot You are not going to see F-35s versus F-16s they will be fighting Russian Su-27/33/35,57 and MiGs as well Chinese Su-27/ Su-35s and J-series Pound for pound, the F-35 has all advantages The US has Su-27s and MIGs which are used for training Thanks to Ukraine and Russian stupidity, The US also has sensitive tech from that Su-35 that pancaked into the field Example An EA-18 can jam the enemy radar while B-1s with ARRWs launch from 400 miles out An ARRW at its designed speed can cover that distance in 1 min 35 sec A B-1 can target defenses as well runways and taxi ways With those damaged, the enemy has to wait for combat engineers to repair the damage so they can get their planes in the air With defenses destroyed ,the enemy air force can be destroyed on the ground by F-35s up close or with coordinated strike with TLAMs or JASSMs Combat engineers have to clear the rumble, fill the holes and cover it matting , by time they get a hole filled, the strike second would be on them Even if they had assets in the air , The EA-18G and B-1 can leave before they get in range With China once their DFs are destroyed, the PLAN/PLAAF problems will increase The USAF can launch ARRWs from stand off range against their DFs and the only way to stop them is send their fighters out to 1000 miles which is exactly what the USAF/USN want them to do The PLAN/PLAAF aerial refueling capability is limited while the USAF/USN has ample tankers so it long range fight is advantageous for USAF/USN
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  6165.  @victorzvyagintsev1325  It can't be done nor has it been done There is no confusion about the Vikhr, you written anti-tank only emphasizes my point The US has used its Hellfire missiles against personnel several times in Iraq and Afghanistan The difference is that the Hellfire was upgraded from AGM-114A- Armored vehicles to AGM-114K, M, N, and P for various targets to AGM-114R Hellfire II-All targets As you stated , its just HEAT charge for armor penetration not multi purpose like the Hellfire and goes back to my point, they have no choice as the Vikhr is basically useless in every way possible Secondly again you emphasizes my point "what happens when the helo finds infantry instead of tanks? It uses the "rocket toss method" with rockets designed specifically to kill infantry insted of trying to pick off individuals with expensive anti-tank missiles" While the US had no problem using hellfires, its was still an expensive solution at 100K per missile So what did the US do The US made Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS) upgrades the 70mm into precision laser guided munition costing only 22K per missile considerably less than the Hellfire Lets price this attack Those are S-8 rockets from Ka-52. Their version of the US 70mm hydra. Assuming they cost the same and they would likely have a full load thats 40 missiles costing $120,000 that they just sprayed The US does the same job with 1 Hellfire or 5 APKWS munitions and it being laser guided means better than 90 percent chance of hitting the target but most importantly, the key design feature of the APKWS is that it used all existing 70mm payloads HEDP, HEAT and APERS (anti-personnel) warhead In Russia's case ,they have only waste dozens of missiles in spray and pray tactics Its funny you say that as another key claim about the KA-52 is that its Semi-rigid mounting improves the cannon's accuracy, giving the 30 mm a longer practical range and better hit ratio at medium ranges than with a free-turning turret mount. Yet another again ???
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  6235.  @KrisHandsome  Its both First As the Mi-8/Mi-17 can not aerial refuel, its range and payload are extremely limited, it has stop and refuel numerous times depending on distance and payload. The Mi-8/17 was absolutely the worst helicopter for that attack , what does aerial refueling have to do with a battle at an airport relatively close to where the helicopters likely took off from? What does the Mi-26 have to do with anything and what do you think those would’ve done to influence the battle had they also been deployed? Hmm Lets see The Mi-26 has been shown able to carry 2 Gaz Tigr 5 Mi-26 could brought 10 Gaz Tigr which could haven 4 armed with PKPs, 2 with Kords , 2 with AGS-17 and 2 with Kornet EM 2 waves of Mi-26 could brought Tigr with varying weapons while 5 more could land 500 plus troops Instead of idiotically trying to to secure the airport for Il-76s, All they had to do is utilize Mi-26s As stated before, Russian helicopters can't aerial refuel and the Mi-26 limited range made it a no go which meant they had to rely on inferior payload of the Mi-17 Which can't even externally carry a Tigr Since Russian forces couldnt bring any armor, it allowed Ukrainian forces to drive them out Aerial refueling as its has become more and more common among western helicopters at first ,it was just special mission variants, however regular units are getting it to The US Army isnt upgrading the UH-60Ms to MH-60M specs are they replacing it with the V-280 Every thing you pointed out why is the US Army is replacing the UH-60 as it reached its obsolescence
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  6236.  @KrisHandsome  Again wrong Besides the UH-60 The EU made AW101 and EC725 can also aerial refuel The only western except is the NH-90 which is being phased Hostomel is only a short distance from the border with Belarus where it was attacked from, Yet despite it being short distance you claimed, they still lost if the distance was short as you claimed, Russian forces should have been able to bring overwhelm forces to secure instead, they are driven out. This also is irrelevant as the airport was taken in under 48 hours Was Russian forces able to land Il-76s while they had the airport under the control Nope, because they didn't hold it, Ukrainian forces were able to render it unusable. Mi-26 certainly can’t carry a T-72B3. Only an idiot like yourself would make that silly comparsion The Tigr isn’t well armored enough for the sort of defensive operation you seem to be implying, And once you again proving you are literally just an ass Its not about armor moron, its weapons The US Army Ranger Ranger Special Operations Vehicle and USN Seal Light Strike Vehicle dont have armor what they bring is firepower, as they can carry heavy machine guns, ATGMs and other heavy weapons, far easier and vastly more efficiently than boots on the ground The V-280 hasnt entered production , however as I stated, the UH-60 has reached its limit Aerial refueling is exactly why the Army selected it The USAF and USMC have operated the /CM/ MV-22 for over 16 years and demonstrated the superior qualities of tilt rotor Specially ,it allows the USAF and USMC to travel considerably distance on a moment notice without the need to for transports like C-5 or C-17s The UH-60 may be relevant for some countries who lack capabilities, however the US Army is moving on 50 miles at most from an assembly area in Belarus to Hostomel. and yet MI-26 again fail
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  6244.  @KrisHandsome  The US lost in Vietnam and Afghanistan without the whole of America’s government and military leadership being neutralized. FALSE Trying to hilariously rewrite history Pathetic When US attacked in 91, unlike Vietnam which you clowns can't let go The military was allow to contact unrestricted and unobstructed warfare and neutralized Iraqi leadership as well as command and control which prevented the Iraqi military from mounting effective counter attacks resulting in the Iraq losing 9 out of 10 engagements Secondly The US withdrew from Afghanistan , they did not lose. The whole point of Afghanistan was Bid laden and al-Qaeda Once he was dead, staying became moot but continue your pathetic attempts rewrite history its hilarious How is Ukraine getting supplies from West , oh wait thats right, because their command and control is still intact Their president is able to make contact the West unobstructed Mi-17 can have all those features, No it can't Russia's is infamous for selling monkey models of their equipment Case in point, they proved Iraqi with monkey models of their equipment and Iraqi forces were slaughtered as result Secondly Russia against is legendary for claiming that those features are exotic and expensive yet in Ukraine, the KA-52, Su-30 and Su-34 which represent their latest tech is getting the shit kicked out of it Technically if you count their modernized Su-25, all have double digit losses Why because by failing to neutralize Ukraine entire command structure. They have been able to get their hands on more and more advanced weapons And its only getting worse
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  6358. if WW3 started ,Russia would lose miserably First Russia weapons against the West was its Electronic warfare capability Specifically, jamming GPS and communication Both have been exposed in Ukraine and some systems have been even being captured and sent back to the West The West now knows exactly how Russian GPS jamming works and has has Lockheed, Raytheon and GD working on counter-measures Secondly the KA-52 and Mi-28 attacks has shown that US military using the Stryker SHORAD with Stinger missiles will be ineffective as both are attacking Ukrainian forces from with outside the range of the Stingers. So now the US military is looking to acquire the NASAMS High Mobility Launcher (HML) which is based on the Complementary Low-Altitude Weapon System (CLAWS) and SLAMRAAM (Surface Launched AMRAAM) concepts which uses AIM-9X and AIM-120C-5s for SHORAD The updated HML with AIM-9X and AIM-120C-5 can reach out to 30 plus miles which is beyond the range of any weapon use by KA-52 or Mi-28 Lastly, how many R-37, R-27, R-73 and R-77s have been recovered from downed aircraft and sent back to West Radars, EW and other tech from downed Russian aircraft 18 months in Ukraine has cost Russia more than you know The Patriot, NASAMS and IRIS-T are network centric they transmit data in real time so every Russian attack with drones, missiles and aircraft All that data has been going back to the West in real time The more Russia stays, the more and more it has to dive into its capabilities and the more the West learns
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  6443. Just a failed conflict from the start Lets recap 3 key points First the Battle of Antonov Airport The US military would have came in at night, dropping forces at primary ,secondary and tertiary LZ While the first wave would be assaulting the airport, the secondly would be securing LZs for MC-130s to land additional forces MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator carries the same load out as an Apache but still retains the MH-60 ability to aerial refuel The USMC LAV-25 is light enough to transported by C-130 which allows attacking forces to have both light armor and aerial support So instead of mirroring US tactics, Russian forces decide that it would be bright idea to attack Antonov Airport in broad day light not only were they driven back but it give Ukraine forces time to render the airport useless Russia's plan was to land 18 Ilyushin Il-76s full of forces and blitz Kyiv just 7-12 miles away It would have worked except of the asinine decision to attack in broad daylight Second and most important Instead of attacking Western Ukraine and systemically cut Ukraine from the West by deploying screening forces to border of Poland, Slovakia, Romania and Moldova which would prevented the West from supplying Ukraine, Russia attacks Eastern Ukraine and leaves the door wide open for the West to supply Ukraine With the West cut off, no HIMARS, Arty , MANPADs nada but instead once again , they left the door open Lastly, instead of reinforcing the Black Sea Fleet with 1 Oscar , Akula and 1 or 2 Udaloy basically overwhelming firepower from the Black Sea ? Beef up the Black Sea Fleet before Feb 24, they did nothing and ow the few assets they have left are basically useless they lost from the start
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  6505.  @arcontez9327  So whole paragraph of nonsense The F-35 has been flying since 2006 and you posted the 11 accidents it has in 16 years operation lets compare that The Indian air force has lost 11 Su-30MKI since 2000 oh look On Jun 27 2018 , Sukhoi 30 MKI being tested crashes in Nashik, pilots ejected safely 4 years ago, the exact same thing happened to India's top jet aircraft lost during test Oh look the Rafale has also had a number of incidents Yet again In Sept 24, 2009 A Rafale being test again, lost Amazing how idiots trying to knock the F-35 incidents with zero clue that the F-35s problems not unique to it The 11 incidents you hilariously mentioned have happened to every modern air force An issue that risks damage to the F-35's tail section if the aircraft needs to maintain supersonic speeds is not worth fixing and will instead be addressed by changing the operating parameters, the F-35 Joint Program Office told Defense News in a statement Friday. Nice cherry picking Lets add the complete story Supersonic flight is not a big feature of the F-35,” Clark said. “It’s capable of it, but when you talk to F-35 pilots, they’ll say they’d fly supersonic in such limited times and cases that — while having the ability is nice because you never know when you are going to need to run away from something very fast — it’s just not a main feature for their tactics.” In fact, going supersonic obviates the main advantages of the F-35, Clark said. “It sort of defeats all the main advantages of the F-35,” he explained. “It takes you out of stealthiness, it burns gas like crazy so you lose the range benefits of a single engine and larger fuel tank. When you go into afterburner, you are heating up the outside of your aircraft.” As I said, a real scam and a whole pile of (barely) flying garbage. As I said, you have zero clue
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  6506.  @arcontez9327  On January 4th 2022, the South Korea Air force was forced to ground its entire fleet of F-35 after a landing on the belly of one of its F-35 whose landing gear failed. Grounding aircraft after accidents again, common and again not unique the F-35 the Pentagon admitted that the F-35 had 871 flaws that could potentially affect its performance, 8 if them classified as "critical". Along 2021 only two of these flaws were corrected, none of them from the most severe group Again with the cherry picking lets add the complete story "Given that the report is not as of yet available, it is not clear what the specific elements of the deficiencies are, or what kinds of impact they may have upon F-35 mission readiness or performance. It is also at this point difficult to have a sense of how critical these may be, as some are likely to fall within the category of routine software and hardware upgrades or maintenance." Again posting misinformation. News flash, the Director, Operational Test and Evaluation (DOT&E) reports carry no weight with the Pentagon or US military The DOTE refused to approve the USAF and USMC plans yet both the USAF and USMC carried out their plans regardless When USMC declared its F-35B IOC in 2015, DOTE objected yet nothing happened other than the USMC moving forward with their plans POGO, GAO and others , all they can be do is criticize, object or report but make no mistake, they carry no weight Again with the cherry picking how SK tracks their metrics is unknown In late 2020, acting U.S. Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller had referred to the F-35 as “a piece of… Your desperation is hilarious First Miller was only Sec-Def for 72 days , LMAO, your source of information is someone who barely held the job for 2 and half months Secondly ,Miller was the special forces operator , not an aviator. So again your source of information was someone who knows literally nothing about aviation Lastly his rank was colonel Now, if the someone with actual credentials such Jim Mattis or the current Sec Def Llyod Austin made that statement ,it would actually carry weight as both Austin and Mattis were both generals, both held commanded United States Central Command (USCENTCOM) and both held Joint commands at highest levels of the US military Thats called credible sources U.S Marine Corps reported In an "alarming host of problems" with "lack of progress in almost every essential area" to bring it closer to a combat ready state. You just love posting misinformation First , the USMC made no such statement The actual statement reads "U.S. Marine Corps Captain Dan Grazier highlighted “a host of alarming problems” and “the F-35’s lack of progress in nearly every essential area” to bring it closer to a combat ready state" This article by Dan Grazier originally appeared in The Project on Government Oversight on March 19, 2019. Just posting misinformation is all you are doing
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  6570. Thats true but time is one thing they can't give Ukraine Ultimately in order to drive Russia out of Ukraine, Ukraine need 3 pieces The first is knocking out the remaining surface combatants and 4 Kilo class subs of the Black Sea fleet Why that matters, without those ships, Russia's ability to strike from the sea neutralized, Russia's ability to blockade Ukraine also done Russian forces resupplying from ships , again gone. Taking out the Black Sea assets would be massive blow to Russian operations in Ukraine For this they need long range precision strike capability. While the HIMARS missiles have 200lbs warhead,, the Harpoon 487lbs does more destruction per missile Why the Harpoon The newer blocks of the Harpoon have both land and sea attack capability and range between 75 to 150 miles. Besides have 3 times the range of the HIMARS M31s but slightly shorter than the ATACMS, the key advantage to Harpoon is that launchers on trucks are quad packed. With ATACMS its 1 on HIMARS and 2 on the M270 The Harpoon coastal units carry 4 missiles. , So with the Harpoon , you more missiles per launcher The Harpoon's ability to attack both land and sea targets give Ukraine the ability to neutralize the black sea fleet as well strike other high value targets on land As the Harpoon's warhead is like dropping GBU-12 The next piece is integrated air defence system (IADS) With IADS, It puts the already strained Russian aviation assets in difficult position as well provides protection against cruise missile attacks These first two , Ukraine forces can get in short order but if this drags on, then Ukraine can get the last piece at which point Russian is done The last piece is their aviation assets Missiles are good but aircraft are better The only plane for this job is the F-16 and its amazing simple The F-16 has the CART CFT which allows to use drogue instead of boom which means that Ukrainian air force cause Su-27s as tankers The Ukrainian air force only need 5 weapons, AIM-9Rs and AIM-120C-5 which are both late 90s tech so even if they ended up in Russian hands they are still decades out dated, AGM-65s and GBU-10/12/16 and AGM-84 again , the US has plenty of older models from the late 90s that wouldnt betray anything to Russia if they got their hands on it. Same goes for the 20mm gun. The F-16 is also LANTRIN capable which is still in use and again old tech If Ukraine gets all of these its game over for Russian forces
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  6596.  @M16_Akula-III  Simple Your airfield is 400 miles from the coast I have my ISR monitor when take off, refuels in the air and cycles as well defenses and communication location When your aircraft hit the tanker to refuel, my EW starts jamming while hypersonic weapons approach A mach 10 hypersonic weapon covers 500 miles in roughly 4 mins The first missile strikes comms, followed second strike on radar, missiles 3 and 4 strike the taxi ways, while 5-6 strike the runways With holes in your runway , it buys time for stealth aircraft or subsonic cruise missiles to deliver the coup de grace and destroy your air force before they can get airborne The EA-18G w can suppress an S-400 however the subsonic TLAM needs little over an hour to reach its target and there is no way an for the EA-18G to jam that long thats ample time for defenses to counter and even more allow your entire air force to get airborne and even worst, plenty of time for defensive fighters refueling to top up and engage With Mach 10 hypersonic weapon, that hour becomes just 4 mins which EA-18G can easily suppress an S-400 for that long With comms and radar knocked out, the aircraft in the air have no idea whats is going on. Israel's Spike NLOS can strike targets up 30 miles away and they made special forces launcher that carries 8 missiles and can be internally carried by CH-47, CH-53s or MV-22 Same situation, they knock out comms and radar as well put holes in the runways and taxiways grounding your air force till the holes can be patched and allowing time for larger missiles like JASSM or TLAM to strike before aircraft can get airborne There are dozens of variations but by knocking radar, comms and cratering the runways and taxiway, you can keep the enemy's air force grounded
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  6629.  @mikemckinnis3877  Sure you have Russia's outlandish claims tend to disappear when reality sets in First They claimed that they destroyed two HIMARS and munitions Next "The Russian claims about using HIMARS to strike outside of Ukrainian territory Now the new claim is that Ukrainian forces are strike Russian territory with HIMARS The fact is that HIMARS has given Ukraine long range precision strike capability which they have been using to great effect The Ghost o Kyiv did done a number of planes during the opening stages as Russia boldly claimed that the UAF was neutrailzed Yet another lie that bit them in the ass as usual As for Ukraine getting its territory, As you are deaf blind mute that can't tell his ass from a hole in the wall, the rest of us know how Ukraine can retake its land The Ukrainian air force lacks BVR missiles , advanced radar ,AWACS and aerial refueling tankers for counter air operations F-16s or JAS-39 would solve that that. The Swedish Erieye for AWCS and A400M or KC-130Js for tankers The F-16 and JAS-39 can use the full range of US made precision guided munitions for air for ground operations Thats cruise missiles for long range precision strike against targets 300 miles away on land and sea lighter weight munitions able to strike targets on land up 70 miles away unlike Russia, the US has a whole range of light weight munitions for urban areas with low collateral damage Next for Persistent Close Air Support (PCAS) , MQ-1 or TB3 equipped with 8 to 16 missiles would mirror the US use of flying drones 24/7 MQs and hellfires proved to be bane to enemy forces on the ground both in Iraq and Afghan If Ukrainian military is fully upgraded with the right tech, it won't take them 100 hundreds maybe a few months at most The smart play would be upgrading the Neptune missile to strike both land and sea targets over 200 miles away as well developing air launched model like the Harpoon
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  6689. The simple answer Russian incompetence Russian lost this conflict from day one At Battle of Antonov Airport Simple plan take the airport, land reinforcements and blitz Kyiv just 10 miles away and reinforce again with additional ground support If they had been successful, Kyiv would have fallen in 3 to 5 days instead they turned a simple plan into massive cluster fuck Instead of coming in at night as the US would have done, they come in broad daylight and got their asses kicked Instead of using Mi-26s to bring in additional forces, they used IL-76s and ended with 2 shot down and rest forced back to Russia when Russian forces failed to capture airport , the Mi-26 could have landed nearby at secondary LZ and allowed Russian forces to maintain pressure but instead they give Ukraine time to render the airport unusable. Without that airport, the convoy instead of pressing into Kyiv ended up grinding to a screeching halt That was the critical mistake that cost them The other critical mistake is lack of leadership In the US, all the generals in high level positions and most of the time, the SecDEF as well have vast military experience In Russia, most of the general in high level positions have very little combat experience or flew desk most of their careers Perhaps the biggest is that Sergei Shoigu, Russian Minister of Defense never served a day in the Russian army By all accounts, its literally a politician With combined that together Ukraine surviving this long kinda makes sense as the Russian leadership has literally no idea what they are doing
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  6841. They dont need similar range to the Su-57 nor the Su-75 which doesnt exist Russia's lack of tankers and Su-57s limits their effectiveness with 5th gen aircraft. As for the increased range, its called the ADVENT engine. The Pratt & Whitney XA101 is ADVENT engine being developed for 6th gen aircraft and is listed as Engine Enhancement Package for the F-35A/C The ADVENT is designed to be 20 plus more fuel efficienct while delivering 10 percent more thrust As for the F-35 and S-400 again wrong While the F-35 is an option, its not the US only option I dont understand why idiots believe that the F-35 is the US only option for defeating SAM sites like the S-400 Lets recap Whats stopping special forces from using the new generation of loitering munitions against the S-400, the latest ones can be carried in back pack and launched from as far as 50 miles. Even with EW and point defense systems like the S1, all it takes is a shot to the command truck and communications and that is now vulnerable to attack Special forces are getting longer range and lethal but light weapons that allows them to strike from further away. F-18E/F and EA-18G using a combination of jamming , aerial decoys and long range precision missiles that can launched from over 300 miles away can attack S-400 That combination with the F-35s in stealth allow the F-35s to get in much closer to attack B-52s or B-1 can attack with cruise missiles supported by EC-130s UCAVs are another option The US military has multiple options and plenty of weapons for dealing with the S-400 and S-500 They are not going to simply rely on one system
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  7120. @Drew Peacock That would be false Despite their claims, the DF-21/26 and Zircon/Kinzhal require a complex ship detection/targeting, data processing for real time positioning and communication systems external systems as well as onboard guidance. Any one of those being jammed and the missile is paperweight. The DF-21/26 still need real time info to stay on targeting and the jamming is the simply way to blind it. China can't counter USN jamming unless they get close. Can't use satellites as the USN would smoke it with an SM-3 Chinese aircraft don't have the legs to be out that far and if they did, the USN/USAF would eat em alive. Chinese ships would also have to contend with USN subs In theory , the DF-21/26 sounds good against naval targets but in practical no so much The US has no doubt that DF-26 can hit Guam as its fixed location and they can do is build up its defenses but as far the DF-21/26 pulling of the KO against naval targets a lot of doubt. Granted the USN has upgraded its SM-6 to deal with the DF-21/26 to be safe but also realize that China has barely tested the DF series as they fear that testing would give the US the info its needs to accurately target it The TLAM is tried and true and needs no range upgrade The USN next weapon for land attack will be the Common Hypersonic Glide Body (C-HGB) but there are few steps before it get here first the launching unit called the multiple all-up-round canister (MAC) a derivative of Virginia Payload Module (VPM) has to be installed and tested on surface ships The CHGB is too big for the MK-41 or MK-57. The USN is going have balance the MAC with the MK-41/57 or equip ships solely with MACs Since the MAC is designed for heavier weapons, the USN may go the MAC route as it would allow for increases in the SM-series range The TLAM at 3500lbs is heaviest weapon in the Mk-41 system, the SM-3 is next at 3000lbs USN has strangely negated the ASROC for long time. TLAM or LRASM The US has the ARRW in development which can end the DF-21/26 before they launch. Now China in order to protect its DF-series would have move the missile further inland as well as build defense which is more problems for China. Russia's Zircon and Kinzhal has problems preventing it from being effective
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  7156. ​ @arandomcrusader-9355  First its only 2 active with 2 in testing/fitting. Secondly the cost of the Yasen is so high thats it being capped at 10 boats Third most importantly, the Zircon is not fully operational on any of the Yasen as they literally just started testing the beginning of October Lastly, how many Zircons will the Yasen carrying isnt known however as the Yasen is copying the US Virginia class Virginia Payload Module, it likely near the same. The Zircon like the Kinzhal can be defeated with simple EW Jamming can effectively disrupt communications and blind seeker Hypersonic weapons rely on communication from launching platform to stay course and on active radar homing in the terminal phase. Jamming can effectively throw a wrench in that. Moving targets are problematic because they are moving The Chinese DF-21 claims 1100 mile range and a speed of Mach 10. It needs 8 min 38 seconds to reach its target when launched from 1100 miles a carrier can change its position by 5 miles in 8 mins. The Russia Kinzhal claims a range 1240 miles from MiG-31 and 1860 from Tu-22M3 however the problem remains the same. When launched from over 1000 miles, a carrier can change its position by nearly 5 miles. So in order to stay on target they need info via datalink, without it, the seeker will lock on the nearest target. The Zircon can launched much closer but its seeker is still vulnerable to EW One of the advantages of subsonic missiles is that their low speed allows to carry electro-optical or imaging infrared seekers for target recognition and terminal homing EO/IR seekers can compare images stored on the missile onboard memory and allows the missile to find the right target without external input The speed of hypersonic weapons prevents the use of EO/IR seekers Even the seeker is pointed at the right target, the target can still barrage jam ,deploy blip enchanement and decoys Hypersonic weapons are excellent for land targets but not for ships Airfields, weapon storage sites,fuel depot, ports , factories, power plants. large radar sites are all targets that are perfect for hypersonic weapons as missiles would require no external input, they just drop and destroy but ships is like trying to tread a needle
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  7203.  @williamt.sherman9841  False Whats next the, pics from the highway of death was fake as well LMAO And you are just ignorant period The Iraqi Army was estimated to be little over million strong in 91, by 2003,that estimate had dropped to just 375K The Iraqi Army losses were supposed lower but yet in 2003, they crushed by US forces within 5 weeks SMH " Risks to Aircraft will only get worse as new systems like directed energy and hypersonic projectiles are developed " DEW are line of sight weapons and hypersonic weapons are still limited by their range nimrod The battle between SAMs and aircraft goes back and forth and right now, Aircraft have the advantage Russia S-500 claims missile range of 310 miles against aircraft while the S-400 claims 250 miles There are this things called air launch cruise missiles, I know you live a fantasy world but in real world, weapons like the JASSM_ER can launched from F-15,16s and F18s from over 500 miles away well outside of missile defenses range like the S-500 newer weapons like the JSOW-ER and JSM can also attack the S-400 outside its range The newer generation of air cruise missles are also much smaller than TLAMs as well stealthier in design Secondly aircraft like the EA-18G can jam both SAM and Counter PGM radars The S-400 and S-500 AESA can be fully suppressed by the existing ALQ-99s but it requires 3 aircraft per radar which is problem however that will solved with the NGJ pods which will bring it down to one aircraft per aircraft Also in the real world, there are things called ADM-160s which can decoy as well jam Lastly nimrod lessons learned from the Gulf The F-111 with PACK TACK, F-15/16s with LANTIRN and A-6 with TRAM were destroying Iraqi armor at wholesale prices. however these systems had poor resolution and required the aircraft to operate at lower altitude which exposed them to ground fire and MANPADS A-10s were using AGM-65 IR seekers as poor mans targeting pod The latest generation of targeting pods are designed to provide HD quality and high resolution FLIR imagery from over 30 miles away at high altitude Aerosol and other measures could block LGB which is why the US developed Dual mode JDAM and PAVEWAYs which can travel to the target area via GPS and use laser targeting for terminal targeting reduce the targets chances defend and also why the US developed the GBU-53 which is a 6 shooter mode SAL/MMW/GPS/IIR/DATALINK/INS. Oh thats too many big words for you, the GBU-53 can be guided by laser, radar, Infrared back by GPS/DATALINK/INS That bomb will not missile it target and it can be launched from 45 miles away nuff said
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  7205.  @williamt.sherman9841  Random person Youtube reminded me one of more factor. The S-400 is based on the lessons learned from the Gulf, that SAMS need to highly mobile, able to fire and move at as staying in fixed locations made Iraqi SAMS easy targets for PGMs. The S-400 is also able to fire on various target types however it can't fire on the move, it has to rely on Tunguska, Panstir, Buk or Tor for protection while its displacing. Those systems radar are which older model PESA and weapons are significantly shorter. A single EA-18 can easily jam their radar. It also has to rely on those systems while in place for PGMSs defense. Since they can't use their radars, they have rely on the S-400 for target information however if the S-400 AESA is being jammed, they are basically blind The USAF ARRW which is development can defeat both the S-400 and S-500 with relatively ease when combined with EA-18G with NGJ pods The S-500 range is 310, an ARRW launched from 320 miles which reach it target in 1 min 16 secs which the EA-18G can easily maintain jamming for that long Same goes for the S-400, launched from 270 miles, the EA-18G just needs to jam for 1 min High subsonic cruise missiles like the TLAM, JASSM, JSM and JSOW-ER require jamming for at least 25 mins which is impossible do against AESA radars however jamming for much shorter periods is completely possible, Just as SAMS advance, aircraft advances as well. Same goes for weapons to defeat SAMs. The USAF has several programs in work for hard kill active protection systems for aircraft Yes nimrod, the USAF has both laser pods and mini missiles for counter both SAMs and AIMs
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  7271. So you basically have no idea what you are talking about, more the point, you are a chinese troll First one, we dont say " we have four shipbuilders in the United States of America People from the US say, the country only has 4 shipbuilders or in the US , there are only 4, The way you write is dead give away that English is a second language to you Secondly, the countering Chinese anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM), has already been done, The head of the US Missile Defense Agency has long stated that the SM-6 is capable of intercepting ASBM in terminal phase. The goal of the SM-6 Block IB program is increasing the SM-6s range so it can perform longer range interception of hypersonic weapons allow for mid course interception in addition to terminal phase. Additionally, the point of the Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) is reducing the time it takes for ships and aircraft to to engage incoming threats. Lastly, the USN revealed the AIM-174B which is air launched variant of the SM-6 The AIM-174 gives the USN the ability to down Chinese tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR assets from over 250 mile away. The F-18E/F can carry 4 Combined with the SM-6 block IB, ASBM as well Chinese aircraft are not a threat to the USN and thats counting the host of improvement like that C2BMC program which allows USN ships to fire missiles and hand them off to off ship assets like the THAAD and Patriot sites The point of C2BMC is even if J-16D or 15D jammer managed to build USN ship radar, they can use someone else sensors to fire with ​ @Spearhead45
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  7272. So you basically have no idea what you are talking about, more the point, you are a chinese troll First one, we dont say " we have four shipbuilders in the United States of America People from the US say, the country only has 4 shipbuilders or in the US , there are only 4, The way you write is dead give away that English is a second language to you Secondly, the countering Chinese anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM), has already been done, The head of the US Missile Defense Agency has long stated that the SM-6 is capable of intercepting ASBM in terminal phase. The goal of the SM-6 Block IB program is increasing the SM-6s range so it can perform longer range interception of hypersonic weapons allow for mid course interception in addition to terminal phase. Additionally, the point of the Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) is reducing the time it takes for ships and aircraft to to engage incoming threats. Lastly, the USN revealed the AIM-174B which is air launched variant of the SM-6 The AIM-174 gives the USN the ability to down Chinese tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR assets from over 250 mile away. The F-18E/F can carry 4 Combined with the SM-6 block IB, ASBM as well Chinese aircraft are not a threat to the USN and thats counting the host of improvement like that C2BMC program which allows USN ships to fire missiles and hand them off to off ship assets like the THAAD and Patriot sites The point of C2BMC is even if J-16D or 15D jammer managed to build USN ship radar, they can use someone else sensors to fire with ​ @Spearhead45
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  7273.  @Spearhead45  So you basically have no idea what you are talking about, more the point, you are a chinese First one, we dont say " we have four shipbuilders in the United States of America People from the US say, the country only has 4 shipbuilders or in the US , there are only 4, The way you write is dead give away that English is a second language to you Secondly, the countering Chinese anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM), has already been done, The head of the US Missile Defense Agency has long stated that the SM-6 is capable of intercepting ASBM in terminal phase. The goal of the SM-6 Block IB program is increasing the SM-6s range so it can perform longer range interception of hypersonic weapons allow for mid course interception in addition to terminal phase. Additionally, the point of the Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) is reducing the time it takes for ships and aircraft to to engage incoming threats. Lastly, the USN revealed the AIM-174B which is air launched variant of the SM-6 The AIM-174 gives the USN the ability to down Chinese tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR assets from over 250 mile away. The F-18E/F can carry 4 Combined with the SM-6 block IB, ASBM as well Chinese aircraft are not a threat to the USN and thats counting the host of improvement like that C2BMC program which allows USN ships to fire missiles and hand them off to off ship assets like the THAAD and Patriot sites The point of C2BMC is even if J-16D or 15D jammer managed to build USN ship radar, they can use someone else sensors to fire with ​ @Spearhead45
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  7288.  @Spearhead45  As yes the typical clueless remarks Ukraine using US made weapons have engaged the Russian S-300 and S-400 and destroyed both several times , There is thing called intelligence ,try it sometime For example The USAF routinely sends RC-135 Rivet Joint and Combat Sent to study the so called advanced surface-to-air missile systems from long The info that it gathered from those flights is handed over to companies such as Raytheon and Northrop who make the AGM-88s Using that data, they make the adjustments to the missiles seekers. The MIG-29 and Su-27 as well as several other captured pieces of Russia equipment has ended up in the US several times Most notably from Ukraine to the US, Krasukha EWS, recovered pieces of the Khibiny as well Pantsir missile systems The US got one export variant from Libya and several captured examples from Ukraine So your so called advanced surface-to-air missile systems are have been severely compromised by the US Engaging terrorists in mountainous terrain is a far cry from battling a legitimate military force-WRONG lol Engaging those terrorists give the US ability Russia only wishes it had The KA-52 has suffered staggering losses due its lack of precision weapons, Only when they started using the LMUR missile, did its losses drop off The US learned its lesson in those mountainous terrain and adapted the AH-64 capabilities so to strike precision from range without getting in range of the enemy weapons but most importantly, AH-64 complained about finding enemy forces but unable to effectively engage them with the Hellfire so newer variants of the Hellfire were developed for anti personnel and other thin skinned targets The MQ-9 can orbit for 10 hours with a load of missiles and bombs Russia has not such capability and has to heavily rely on getting lucky with Lancelet drones Russia so called attempt with the S-70 failed miserably
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  7459. 16 delivered and fully operational kicking Russia's ass daily If Russian forces had actually destroy HIMARS, they would waste no time trying to display the wreckage Except its claim after claim with zero proof A clown on New Atlas posted video claiming that the Russian video of HIMARS being destroyed with hilarious explanation that ignore all facts The alleged HIMARS was spotted at logging plant yet no sign of any fuel truck, or ammunition loading Just HIMARS ,just magically sitting in plain to see when all videos of Ukrainian forces show them hiding in forested areas when they are not on missions Secondly,he claimed that dimensions matched except he ignored part where the HIMARS has angled cab and from the position the vehicle was at, there should have been a massive reflect of sunlight but nada or the famed grainy ass warehouse strike video with no signs of secondary explosions that consistently with ammunition exploding Funny how Russia's claimed strikes against Ukrainian munitions storage never have any no signs of secondary explosions that consistently with ammunition exploding Russia can't destroy the HIMARS Accept that fact The M777 requires 6 mins to enplace, time for the fire mission and 6 mins to displace, on average about 20 mins. As the M777 range is only 18-20 miles its very easy for Russian drones to get eyes on M777s units and destroy them As for the rest Self-propelled artillery, they can do nothing about it The CAESAR time 5-7 min max The Pzh-2000 time 5 min for 10 round mission or 3 min for 3 round mission The HIMARS time 3 mins but most importantly, the HIMARS is firing up 50 miles away . Unless you have Su or MIG nearby , Russia is not intercepting any SPA which asks the question where is the Russian air force
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  7475.  @alexnderrrthewoke4479  Why is impossible for you idiots to write one comment, thats so hilarous that you can't gather your thoughts one time, you have to reply as fast as you can ??? When has the Merkava fought other tanks ? The first and only time was in 1982 The Merkava is designed specially for urban warfare. 90 percent of its fighting has been asymmetric warfare, not actual combat Can Merkava survive against enemy with substantial capabilities like airpower or heavy artillery Nope Shield star wars type system. We are not far from there.-seriously The only system in development can barely stop an RPG-7 and that requires massive amount of power exaggerating. What does the WW and WW2 have to do with modern warfare Not a damn thing The US military can use ARRWs to knock S-400 and Buk out while EA-18G jam and destroy Panstir S1, Tunguska and Tor systems Without those defenses, armor is basically screwed The F-15E can carry up sixteen 500lbs bombs or 28 GBU-53s with 105 warheads a flight of 4 is 112 GBU-53s or 64 GBU with 4 F-22s in top Fun fact,500lbs bombs can be launched 10 miles away while GBU-53 up 45 miles while out of range of MANPADS In all , the US can commit 12 planes F-15E for strike , F-22 for CAP, EA-18G for jamming, 1 AWACS and 1 JSTARS Even if the enemy scrambles fighters, the F-22 will keep them busy while F-15E work and even then, there is no guarantee that they will make in time So bother with logistics boon of trying to bring armor to bear when your aerial assets can easily destroy the enemy whole sale
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  7483.  @theimmortal4718  That depends on terrain if the site position correctly with the Panstir S1 with clear lines of sight , drones and loitering munitions wont be problem but if you have obstructions then yes, by time the system pick it up, its already to late The 30mm cannons of the S1 can deal with drones and loitering munitions. If Russia had sense, they would have developed airburst data link rounds like the US did for its counter drone weapons The drone problem is not a big one. and there are simple solutions which the US practices religiously. Destroy them at the source While hunting the Taliban and insurgent, the US military discovered that 3 EA-1G networked together can generate targeting tracks for hostile radio-frequency sources in real time. They can trilaterate signal to very very small area. Drones and Loitering munitions still give off RF which Growlers can track and send the data to F-15E which in turn can use their AN/ASQ-236 Radar Pod -Dragon pod and recon the location where the drones were launched from Depending the situation, the F-15E either smokes the target or relies to ground assets to possible capture some systems intact The ground asset would be the first chance as intact systems provides a means for EW to defeat the drone or Loitering munitions without guns or missiles Simple GPS spoofing could send them harmless into fields or you could return to sender via spoofing Drones and Loitering munitions are not problems, they just require a lot creatively As I stated before, once 150kW laser weapons become operational, that problem becomes moot If you have say 4 Stryker MGS configured with 150kW laser. As long as it properly cooled , large enough power source , network-centric warfare Cooperative Engagement Capability and able to fire rapidly against multiple targets 4 units could take down 100 drones or Loitering munitions This would work today with using Oerlikon 35 mm with AHEAD rounds but instead of 2 guns with 550 rounds each 1 gun with 1100 rounds and magazine that can be loaded even when the gun is firing
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  7485.  @monitoni7901  What people get wrong about Serbia is that F-117 did not fail What USAF failed was the aircraft supporting the F-117 The EA-6B , F-16CJ and Tornado ECR failed to destroy Serbian defenses Those planes had severe limitations which allowed Serbian defenses to survive The EA-6B had sensors but not the speed. The F-16CJ and Tornado ECR relied on the EA-6B to provide data but they had to get info from AWACS not the EA-6B The AGM-88 could only target the site if it active. Other assets in the area also could not target the sites Now the reason why the US still betting on stealth tech is they learned from Serbia The EA-18G has both sensors and speed but most importantly far more advanced sensors Three Growlers networked together can generate targeting tracks for hostile radio-frequency sources in real time. They trilaterate a target from wide area to a very, very small area. The AGM-88 has been heavily reworked so it can target site even if its cold or moving The Growler has 3 data-links to which it can transmit targeting data direct to other assets without having to go through AWACS Targeting pods are now standard on all strike assets which can visual ID targets from significant ranges allowing to find target much easier Lastly, the F-117 was designed for maximum stealth so it lacked MAWS and RWRs Thanks to AESA low probability of intercept, the F-22 and F-35 has MAWS and RWR that doesnt betray their position The US is still betting on stealth as they understood where they went wrong as for betting on hypersonic weapons Again the US is vastly superior in that Russia's Kinzhal can only be carried by MIG-31 and Tu-22M3M, One missiles on MIG-31 and 4 on the Tu-22M3M China's missiles like Russian are limited 1 to 2 missiles plane The US ARRW is designed so one missile carried F-15E and up 31 missiles on B-1B Russia's Zircon's range is 640 miles while the China' YJ-21 range 300 miles. The LRHW range is over 1700 miles Unlike China and Russia, the US has several programs in work The Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM) USAF for tactical flexibility to employ fighters to hold high-value, time-sensitive targets at risk, The Hypersonic Air-launched OASuW. HALO as carrier based hypersonci asset for the USN for F-35, F-18 and FA/XX So the US is very much ahead of the game
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  7580. Ukraine doesnt need manpower It needs weapons so it can strike more effectively Case in point, Ukraine air force has very very aircraft able use Storm Shadow, JDAM , AASM and AGM-88s The Ukrainian army only has 155mm and MLRS and that sums up Ukraine's strike power With the additional ATACMS both 500lbs warhead and submunition variant Ukraine's 70 plus western launchers can strike nearly 200 miles vs the current 103 miles As before , Ukraine uses 6-7 ATACMS and shredded a Russian base So offensively, Ukraine can do more but Ukraine wont have true offensive power till they have at least 12 F-16s operational Unlike Ukraines' Russian aircraft , The F-16 is what is exactly needed For air to ground, the F-16 can use 500lbs, 1000lbs and 2000lbs laser guided bombs which immune to EW While MIG-29s can only use the AGM-88 in limited modes, the F-16 can fully use it , specially the F-16 can hunt and destroy EW sites allowing GPS munitions to be usable again The F-16 can also use the Harpoon ASM for anti ship attacks against Russians' frigates Russian fanboys are quick to say the F-16 is no match for the Su-35 or S-400 New flash, The F-16 doesnt need to be Ukraine has been striking S-300 and S-400 sites but mostly importantly after 2 were blow out of the sky, A-50s are no longer operational So the Russian air force ability to engage F-16s is already knocked out a smart Ukrainian play would play here kitty and have F-16s act as bait and draw Russian aircraft into missile traps Ukraine needs the F-16 air to ground capability more than its air to air
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  7644.  @bigjohnmacarthy9493  The irony is that Ukraine with limited western weapons is going year 3 and counting No ,its not complicated , You are forgetting that Ukrainian forces were nearly depleted Step 1 was the initial strike on Dzhankoi against Russian air power Step 2 is resupply forces and stabilize the situation on the front line Once thats done, they will starting planning to strike for maximum effectiveness both tactically and strategically in their shoes The Kerch Bridge for obvious reasons, fuel and munition depots , command and control, and more strikes against air fields The number of ATACMS delivered is estimated at 100-200 missiles at most so they are kinda limited to a degree Lastly Ukraine has operated mainly Russia weapons so going cold turkey on Russian weapons to Western has been a challenge Ukraine wont have true offensive power till they have at least 12 F-16s operational Unlike Ukraines' Russian aircraft , The F-16 is what is exactly needed For air to ground, the F-16 can use 500lbs, 1000lbs and 2000lbs laser guided bombs which immune to EW While MIG-29s can only use the AGM-88 in limited modes, the F-16 can fully use it , specially the F-16 can hunt and destroy EW sites allowing GPS munitions to be usable again The F-16 can also use the Harpoon ASM for anti ship attacks against Russians' frigates Russian fanboys are quick to say the F-16 is no match for the Su-35 or S-400 New flash, The F-16 doesnt need to be Ukraine has been striking S-300 and S-400 sites but mostly importantly after 2 were blow out of the sky, A-50s are no longer operational So the Russian air force ability to engage F-16s is already knocked out a smart Ukrainian play would play here kitty and have F-16s act as bait and draw Russian aircraft into missile traps Ukraine needs the F-16 air to ground capability more than its air to air
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  7975.  @stubones  Russian is destroying is pennies while Ukraine is hitting up them wholesale Its not who , its what What does the lost of a Kilo do for Russia, a massive strategic loss as they have few subs in the Black Sea and it cant be replaced What does the lost of a Kilo do for Ukraine, a massive strategic victory as it lost of a sub is major blow to Russian forces As far Ukraine goes for Russia, a massive strategic loss across the board Russia's weapon against the West was jamming and thanks to Ukraine, most or all that tech has compromised as Russia has been forced to use it protect its forces from GPS guided weapons. Its use a a massive strategic gain for the West Russia's weapons against western aircraft was the S-400 and in recent months, the Ukraine attacks on S-400 sites has steadily increased to point where entire sites have destroyed as the S-400 vulnerabilities has been found and exploited. Again a massive strategic gain for the West The KA-52 and LMUR success has shown the West that MANPADS are no longer effective as SHORAD. Western countries are dusting off old programs using longer range weapons as well buying newer ones with substantially longer range making the KA-52 moot once again Lastly , the T-14 was too expensive so Russia went back to more T-90 models. A/K/M/S/SM Most has been destroyed or captured in Ukraine which leaves the T-14 as Russia's only tank against the West The fact that Russia isnt using it Ukraine is proof how scared they are of losing or worst Ukraine capturing But please list the pennies Russia is proud of
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  8014.  @gabehorn1001  Carriers are supposed vulnerable yet China is building both conventional and nuclear. India has plans for nuclear carrier. France is working on the PANG also nuclear The countries that are building conventional carriers either dont have reactor technology or wont due to cost Effectively all the major players are still building carriers despite so called claims of them being vulnerable to supposed attack. Lets look at the QE short comings thanks to cost less The CVN is protected by 2 ESSM launchers and 2 RAMs plus 3 CIWS whereas the QE class only has 3 CIWS for self defense The Ford class radars designed work with the Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) allow for seamless communication and integrated fire control with its escorts and aircraft whereas the QE class ? The QE is plans for the 50kW Dragonfire laser whereas the laser weapons planned for the Ford are the same 150kw-600kW planned for the DDGX as the Ford's reactors can easily support sustained 600kW shots thanks its 700 MW reactors plus can support even 1 MW weapons whereas the QE IEP only generates 119 MW lets look at air wing No organic , EW or tanker, has rely solely on land based assets. its only AWACS is helicopter AWACS which is vastly inferior as its the Crownest AWACS cant go higher than 15K feet whereas the E-2D operates at 25K feet with ease FYI the reactor has walls of shielding and protection unlike Russia ships. The father of the nuclear navy, Hyman G. Rickover ran the USN nuclear reactor program for decades and had zero incidents thanks stringent rules regarding construction and operation. The odds of enemy successfully striking the reactor are 1 in million Oh yes, porting a ship and it being stationary for how many hours is not vulnerably I say with sarcasm
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  8015. Carriers are supposed vulnerable yet China is building both conventional and nuclear. India has plans for nuclear carrier. France is working on the PANG also nuclear The countries that are building conventional carriers either dont have reactor technology or wont due to cost Effectively all the major players are still building carriers despite so called claims of them being vulnerable to supposed attack. Lets look at the QE short comings thanks to cost less The CVN is protected by 2 ESSM launchers and 2 RAMs plus 3 CIWS whereas the QE class only has 3 CIWS for self defense The Ford class radars designed work with the Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) allow for seamless communication and integrated fire control with its escorts and aircraft whereas the QE class ? The QE is plans for the 50kW Dragonfire laser whereas the laser weapons planned for the Ford are the same 150kw-600kW planned for the DDGX as the Ford's reactors can easily support sustained 600kW shots thanks its 700 MW reactors plus can support even 1 MW weapons whereas the QE IEP only generates 119 MW lets look at air wing No organic , EW or tanker, has rely solely on land based assets. its only AWACS is helicopter AWACS which is vastly inferior as its the Crownest AWACS cant go higher than 15K feet whereas the E-2D operates at 25K feet with ease FYI the reactor has walls of shielding and protection unlike Russia ships. The father of the nuclear navy, Hyman G. Rickover ran the USN nuclear reactor program for decades and had zero incidents thanks stringent rules regarding construction and operation. The odds of enemy successfully striking the reactor are 1 in million Oh yes, porting a ship and it being stationary for how many hours is not vulnerably I say with sarcasm
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  8140. They are not pulling their punches They are taking beating its hype vs reality Hype During a reported test conducted by the Russian military in 1999 the T-90 was exposed to a variety of RPG, ATGM and APFSDS munitions. When equipped with Kontakt-5 ERA the T-90 could not be penetrated by any of the APFSDS or ATGM used during the trial Reality Despite the claims that Russia ERA like Kontakt-5, Relikt and Malachit can protect tanks from ATGM and types of anti tank weapons Russia tanks shredded by ATGM. Russian official brushed off the West supply Ukraine while Russian tanks were seen welding cages on their tanks Despite their superior protection systems. Hype The Defense System President-S, also referred to as BKO, is a fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft protection system designed to defeat incoming infrared-guided missiles by laser and radiofrequency/electronic jamming of the missile's seeker. President-S is intended to defeat primarily man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) such as the Russian Igla and the United States Stinger shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles. KRET and Ekran tested this system firing Igla missiles at a President-S equipped Mi-8 helicopter fixed up on a special rig. During the tests, several missiles were fired from a distance of 1,000 meters with no missile reaching its target due to the highly effective jamming. Reality, today a Su-25 was shown heavily damaged . Days earlier a Mi-24 shown getting absolutely wrecked by MANPADs Again despite their claims, the Ukrainan landscape strewn with the wreckage of Russia air force aircraft from Ka-52s to Su-34s Truth be told, an Ukrainian solider was shown unable to engage helicopter with Igla but Ukrainain's forces dont just have Iglas They have US Stingers and Polish Piorun The simple fact is that this has become a low intensity conflict which Russia is so for ill equipped to fight The Tu-22M, Tu-95s and Tu-160s are collecting dust as its the Russia navy Same with the MIG-31s and Kinzhal and Russia navy with the Zircon All the weapons made a big deal about are just collecting dust right now The US traveled 7000 miles to Iraq and then the capital in 3 weeks Yet Russian can't seem to travel the 286 miles to Kyiv
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  8184.  @stevewing6851  Seemingly these Americans have no idea the F-22 and F-35 can't see, track, or target any other stealth aircraft from BVR (beyond visual range). Russia's new 5th generation Byelka (2band) radar, used in SU-57, does have enhanced long-wave radar, they've designed and developed the first L-Band fighter radar we've ever seen. They've cleverly embedded L-band AESA radars in the leading edges of the wings. The new L-band AESA radar data gets processed in real time through extremely powerful Russian Elbrus computers being significantly enhanced removing all clutter, meaning it can see, track, target, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR Just screams Russia troll Lets recap share Sukhoi was awarded the contract in 2002 for the PAK FA, its 2022 and now the PAK FA which is now the Su-57 has just 14 planes built 4 production models and 10 prototypes after 20 years Lockheed was award the JSF contract in 2001 and there are 770 F-35s one of these is not like the other You are leaving out the fact the Byelka was delivered several years late. The AL-41F1 has been problematic as the Izdeliye 30 was also delivered several years late Quick note Russian Elbrus computers is not designed for the Su-57 They are using chipsets, yes troll, there is major difference between the two The delays is why the prototypes were flying using Su-35s avionic and engines Most importantly lack of exports I remember when Russia claimed a 1000 PAK FAs by 2020-2025 Dont see that happening As for the F-22 and F-35 the F-22 ALR-94 and F-35 ASQ-39 are designed to track targets via emission passive up to 250 miles away The F-35 DAS allows to visually ID targets The Su-35 was tested by Egypt against its own Rafale and Su-35 was completely dominated by the Rafale superior EW capability its called facts troll
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  8235.  @EmperorLionflame  There is nothing beleaguered about Ford class carrier. People dont realize this is first new CVN class built since the 70s. The USN still opting for the 4 panel for the DDGX so it being low does not matter the Type 45 can launch several dozen missiles and control them to various targets. To saturate Burke you only need a few missiles, luckily, the US often sails alongside its allies. Yeah no First the Burkes VLS capacity is 90 plus with quad packed ESSM which gives them substantially more missiles. The only ships with more missiles is the Ticos and Chinese Type-055 Secondly the Type-45 is only new getting the CAMM which increases its load to 72, still well short of the Burke. The additional CAMM are not quad packed capable. So the saturation notion is a joke as the Type-45 would run off missiles faster than a Burke as well fact that Burke can engage targets substantially further with the SM-6 Literally twice the range of the Aster 30 Yeah no The first the Burke and Tyoe-45 similar in weight while the Type-42 is half the weight The Burke has 2 VLS while Type-45 has one. The system used on Type-42 is the analogous to the USN MK-26 launchers The Burke is dual hanger for 2 SH-60s at any given time while both Type-45 and Type-42 are limited 1 Lastly the Burke capable of performing BMD with SM-3 and SM-6 while the Type-45 and Type-42 not so much Par Till the Type-45 can perform BMD, Land attack , ASW and ASUW, on its own, its mostly defintely no par with Burke
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  8236.  @EmperorLionflame  Building a new ship with completely new technology is not an easy task even for the USN. They have replaced all the tried and true technology with completely new tech is going to take a while to get same reliability. Example the C-13s cats and MK-7 traps didn't reach their reliability over night, those systems have been use for close to 50 plus years. The EMALS and AAG barely have 6 years Not Irrelevant as the ships still carries more weapons regardless of them being SARH. Secondly the newer SM-3 and SM-6 have SARH in additional to ARH so what your point? As far hypersonic saturation Whole point of Cooperative Engagement Capability is to allow the USN to handle saturation attacks. The upgrade to SPY-6 allows the Burke to handle 30 times the targets of the SPY-1 so again Lets see The Burke can perform land attack or anti ship with TLAMs whereas Type-45 ? The Burke can perform BMD with SM-3 and SM-6 whereas the Type-45 ? The Burke can perform ASW with its MK-32 whereas the Type-45? The Burke is currently fielding a second generation LAWs High Energy Laser and Integrated Optical-dazzler and Surveillance (HELIOS) and Optical Dazzling Interdictor, Navy (ODIN) system whereas Type-45? The Type-45 IEP system has been anything but reliable so I am surprised you mentioned it The Burke has more modern missiles a the SM-3, SM-6 and ESSM are considerably more modern and capable the Aster and CAMM The latest SM-2 under RD will be just as capable, hell the Type-26 for AU and CA are slated to carry the SM2 upgraded battle management, right and where is the Type-45 CEC capability ? The only thing that Burke lacks is newer EW A few Burkes can do more damage than 6 Type-45 combined
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  8237.  @EmperorLionflame  The LCS and Zumwalt have nothing to do with Ford class. The LCS problem was lack of foresight. The class should have been divided into LCS and FFG but opted for something As for the Zumwalt, sorry pal but rests solely on congress not the USN. The whole point of the Zumwalt was to appease Congress demand that USN retain naval gunfire capability. The USN reiterated that missiles were better and the increasing range of ASM made NGS moot but they didnt want to hear it Austal that makes the LCS is Australian company, Marinette Marine again Italian So your point of the USN going to a non US company ?? The majority of the bidders were non use so ?? And your point about SARH is what again. If the enemy is jamming, then they already know your locations. Secondly as the before, the SM-series uses both SARH and ARH so again whats your point If SARH can't be used, then they switch to ARH and that is a flip of a switch. You make sound like location a ship in ocean is that hard with the shear amount of observation sats in orbit. people start going on about them, forgetting UK/Europe had this 10-15 years ago. No they didnt. The USN developed the SM-6 in fraction of the time that it took for the Aster to be built The SPY-6 being "quote" alleging lower does not change anything The USN is increasing the inter operation and communication between all assets, that called progress Yet despite the claims of the Aster and CAMM ,the Standard missile has no shortage of buyers. Even buyers for the Type-26 are equipped SM2 and SM-6 Specific BMD designated burkes with SM-3, but don't pretend that is their typical setup, The USN goal is all cruisers and destroyers to have BMD with SM-3s and SM-6. Frigates will be limited the SM-6 33 of 97 ships have been upgraded At least the Burkes have been at sea whereas the Type-45 spends most of its time pier side USN are sighing with relief that the RN with the worlds only next gen carrier group is coming to help them in the SCS More like laughing their ass off that UK sent a ship that broke down how many times before getting to SCS
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  8239.  @EmperorLionflame  Again with the overestimation. How exactly is Russia/China going to jam USN ships at sea. Again it goes to back to the CEC which the whole fleet working in sync Even if they did have the assets to do so, It may be possible to degrade one ship allow but several working in sync not possible Neither China or Russia has developed anything that requires the USN to urgently increase its stocks of SM-6 or completely replace the SM-2 China and Russia have the sats to locate USN ships at sea, its not that hard to. The only issue is getting assets into striking position which is complicated and hard depend on the course of the USN ships. Chinese DFs are limited to targets with its range. Russia Zircon is limited to handful of assets , again not a threat. The Kinzhal is limited by few numbers MIG-31 and Tu-22M3M, Neither China nor Russia has the ability to quote" launch hypersonic saturation" Right the vintage missile which block I has double the range of the clean sheet Aster and block 2b will nearly triple the range The SM-6 which in additional to be AAW, has ASW and Land attack capability, right Can the US not actually design modern missiles? Considering that SM-2 still sells the a high end clean sheet design Aster shows how many faith countries place in the SM-2 Considering the Aster has been since 2001 ,yet has never unseated the SM series pretty says it all You mistaking preference and system for capabilities. lower or higher again no difference its mass produced and a lot of those buyers don't have access to Sylver/Aster and already have Aegis ready vessels. Exactly, its mass produced which the Aster isnt. In a potential conflict, SM2 users has access to ample stocks were Aster users not so much Right buyers of the UK type 26 doesnt have access to Sylver/Aster, thats lie you are going with seriously That goes back to alleged superiority of PAAMS and Aster. No one is buying literally. Even the UK switch to the MK-41 and CAMM for Type-26 says it all Considering that USN has one CVN and LHD homeported in Japan, there is no need for Ford to come that far west Secondly the Ford is homeported in Norfolk , The USN was going to send a Ford class that far west, the ships that will be going to the SCS is the Kennedy, Miller or CVN-82 The USN still uses baseline LM2500 engines. They can switch from LM2500 to the newer LM2500G4 if needed but there is no reason to falling further and further behind. LMAO Right name the ship classes that carries 90 plus missiles, able to carry out AAW, ASW, ASuW, Land attack and BMD with simple flip of the switch Only the USN. The only capability that USN lacks is advanced EW with AESA which the SPY-6 solves No one is close
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  8240.  @EmperorLionflame  Except we are talking about the Aster vs the SM-series not Russia or China The fact still remains that despite the Aster's claims of superior capabilities, its has seen virtually no orders. No one is replacing their quote vintage missiles The quote vintage missile was approved for export in 2017 and already has 3 buyers and Aster since 2001, again no changes The Aster is not that much faster than SM-6 but block IB will change all that SM2 users has access to ample stocks Having access to ample stocks means they dont have worry about shortages of ammo where shortages would be problem for the Aster That is when the US is going to laugh at the Type-45 and its Asters as they use the vastly superior SM-6 to counter said threats "US Viice Adm. Jon Hill, the head of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency, or MDA, says that the multi-purpose SM-6 missile is the only weapon in the country's arsenal at present that offers any ability to knock down highly-maneuverable hypersonic threats. The head of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency has confirmed the SM-6 capabilites whereas the Aster ?? no such capability The Aster was designed for supersonic threat not hypersonic As many times you try cry about the US going overseas for a ship, I am just to laugh as I have pointed out its not first nor will be the last time they do so More to point, going to other countries for ships is extremely common place, everyone does. Russia asked France for Mistral class ships Austraila can build ships as well but they still elsewhere ? Secondly the Frigates are support ships. The USN already has major surface combatant capability with Burke class USN is mostly a semi-active illuminator navy with low to the hull radars and poor EMCON, they rely on CEC as a crutch, Yet still very much outclass the competition including the Type-45 when the Type-45 can perform BMD, Land attack, ASW, Asuw on its own, then maybe ,it might par with the USN
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  8274.  @andilamh2791  Based on what has happened in Ukraine so far , thats highly unlikely Russia tried to use its EW against Starlink and they countered it within day Additional The Krasukha has been so far useless in Ukaine , Russian EW has been so far useless in Ukraine As far as blinding and disrupt, false, that only works against active system ,passive systems can trace the RF emissions back In full conflict, the NATO has dozens of ways of dealing with the S-350, S-400 and S-500 There is thing called range and the S-350, S-400 and S-500 would never get in range and the US assets are designed to operate from stand off range So how exactly would Russian systems get in range answer, wouldnt happen The USAF successfully tested the ARRW today which is the writing on the wall for both Russia and China The ARRW launched from 350 miles away can easily attack S-350, S-400 and S-500 as missile only needs 1 min 23 secs to cover that distance That means that EA-18G only has to disrupt the S-350, S-400 and S-500 radar for 1 min 20 at most which is literally a cake walk without their radar, they can't counter fire on the ARRW That also means that MIG-31 or Su-35 won't have time to intercept the EW aircraft As the USAF ARRW is designed so that B-52 and B-1s can carry 20 plus per plane The best Russia can do is 4 Kinzhal , that allows one B-52 to break a massive hole in Russian defenses AS for the Chinese Their DF launchers are massive and an ARRW launched from 700 miles away can still strike as the launchers massive size limits their speed
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  8330.  @cobaltbomba4310  Again The P-8s, F-18s and F-35s would wreck Iran's naval capability in one day F-22s and F-35s vs Iran airforce , Iran would last 3 day at most As for a ground war much longer but Iran would lose in the end See Iran couldnt resist helping the insurgents in Iraq which in turn screws Iran The US military switched from lightly armored humvees to better protected MRAPs, L-ATV and JTLV which have better survivability against road side, IED and heavy caliber weapons due the lessons learned in Iraq and Afghan Iran has ATGMs but again US vehicles are being upgraded with APS From the start, US vehicles have vastly better protection Also a result from Iraq and Afghan is Anti-Sniper/Sniper Detection/Gunfire Detection systems paired with CROWS A sniper fires and Anti-Sniper/Sniper Detection/Gunfire Detection locates them and automatically slews the CROWS on them, all the operator has to do is pull the trigger Iran loves to claim its ballistic missile capability but the US isnt Saudi Arabia The USAF/USNC would relentless hunt down Iran's missiles those goes back to lessons learned. One of the reasons why Serbs survived was that the US didnt have the missiles capable of executing time sensitive strikes from long range and seekers couldnt ID targets. The US has remedied that issue so aircraft can now quickly engage time sensitive targets are longer range which will negate Irans shoot and scoot capability Iran won't dare fire on anyone else because runs the risk of pulling in all the US allies into fight Turkey is NATO and attack on a NATO country is considered an attack on all So if Iran starts firing off missiles and they end up hitting other countries, then they will be truly screwed Iran loves to claim that a war with the US would be the end them but in reality the US nuclear arsenal can glass Iran in 30 min
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  8425.  @1chish  No you just like to twist facts SELEX (aka Leonardo) is similar to General Dynamics , a company that covers a wide array of defense programs , Like the GD, they have a hand in defense but not a world leader The F-15EX uses two Advanced Display Core Processor (ADCP) II which can process as high as 87 billion instructions per second of computing throughput Whats under the hood of the Typhoon again, nothing nowhere near that The PIRATE IRST is built into the airframe is its limited both in size and capability The Legion pod has vastly superior resolution and range and already has planned roadmap for increasing both resolution and network centric capabilities The DragonEye's pod which is AESA has allows the F-15EX simultaneously to look in multiple directions. The pod can survey the ground allowing the main radar to maximize its search capability for aerial threats vs allocating T/R modules. In sense it gives the WSO his own radar to use but by all mean continue with the pointless quotes that amount to nothing FYI The Air Force originally asked for funding to buy 33 F-35As in 2023, which was lower than the 48 the service asked for in 2022. Secretary Frank Kendall said the Air Force wanted to use the money freed up by buying fewer F-35s to develop the Next Generation Air Dominance platform, work on a new, advanced engine for the F-35 and more quickly bring on the F-15EX Eagle II Dec 7 Trying quote actual facts not months old garabage The USAF is not walking back on the F-15EX as they need it for the ANG units and if they walk back, it would mean they would have divest precious F-35 and NGAD to ANG which they are not keen on doing From the Sec Def Dec 3 Austin laid out some of the efforts the U.S. military is undertaking to strengthen that deterrence, including that on land, air and at sea.  In the fiscal year 2023 budget, he said, the Defense Department requested more than $56 billion for airpower. That is focused on the F-35 Lightning II, the F-15EX fighter, the B-21 Raider and other systems.
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  8562. Ultimately in order to drive Russia out of Ukraine, Ukraine need 3 pieces The first is knocking out the remaining surface combatants and 4 Kilo class subs of the Black Sea fleet Why that matters, without those ships, Russia's ability to strike from the sea neutralized, Russia's ability to blockade Ukraine also done Russian forces resupplying from ships , again gone. Taking out the Black Sea assets would be massive blow to Russian operations in Ukraine For this they need long range precision strike capability. While the HIMARS missiles have 200lbs warhead,, the Harpoon 487lbs does more destruction per missile Why the Harpoon The newer blocks of the Harpoon have both land and sea attack capability and range between 75 to 150 miles. Besides have 3 times the range of the HIMARS M31s but slightly shorter than the ATACMS, the key advantage to Harpoon is that launchers on trucks are quad packed. With ATACMS its 1 on HIMARS and 2 on the M270 The Harpoon coastal units carry 4 missiles. , So with the Harpoon , you more missiles per launcher The Harpoon's ability to attack both land and sea targets give Ukraine the ability to neutralize the black sea fleet as well strike other high value targets on land As the Harpoon's warhead is like dropping GBU-12 The next piece is integrated air defence system (IADS) With IADS, It puts the already strained Russian aviation assets in difficult position as well provides protection against cruise missile attacks The last piece is their aviation assets If Ukraine get long range strike capability with the Harpoon and a functioning IADS, that gives them time for the last piece Missiles are good but aircraft are better The only plane for this job is the F-16 and its amazing simple The F-16 has the CART CFT which allows to use drogue instead of boom which means that Ukrainian air force cause Su-27s as tankers The Ukrainian air force only need 5 weapons, AIM-9Rs and AIM-120C-5 which are both late 90s tech so even if they ended up in Russian hands they are still decades out dated, AGM-65s and GBU-10/12/16 and AGM-84 again , the US has plenty of older models from the late 90s that wouldnt betray anything to Russia if they got their hands on it. Same goes for the 20mm gun. The F-16 is also LANTRIN capable which is still in use and again old tech If Ukraine gets all of these its game over for Russian forces
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  8688. @ Ben Grogan "The old Arsenal ship proposal was 768 VLS tubes" exactly The 768 design was not feasible. Even the proposed LPD BMD is 288 vls tubes is pushing it. The reload time for 768 missiles ,up keep of that many missiles and cost made it unfeasible. Example as of 2015 , the USN TLAM stock is 3500 missiles. an Arsenal ship requires 22 percent of that stock per ship where the Ohio is 4.4 percent per ship. The concept was revised to a much more feasible design. "The Battleships turret size is large enough accommodate rail guns without the use of a reactor. Adding nuclear reactor is bonus." Please tell me you are not talking about trying to refit Ohios, Please do not tell me you are going to be that dumb" how in the fuck did you get Ohio out of that sentence ??? The battleship size allows for a much larger rail gun vice compact. The Navy's future gun is 64 MJ. A larger version for BB can easily 3 triple range and destructive power" a 64MJ railgun is still only the size of a larger cruiser turret, look at the size specs they're putting forward As for 3 triple turrets, for what purpose? They already have shown rep-fire and nothing the Navy wants is saturation bombardment, that is not what the railgun is designed for." The current 1 barrel 32 MJ version is rated at 100 miles and future 64 MJ will be 200 miles. So what can the Navy do with Railgun that hit targets 600 miles away ?? you seriously dont understand the advantage of a 600 mile gun. Anti ship capability. One salvo from triple mounted turret would end any ship with 600 miles of it . 600 miles is roughly the same a AGM-158 ER cruise missile. At 200 miles of an enemy coast, Anything with 400 miles is game, thats bases,air field , ports. materiel. The closer the ship gets, the further inland it can reach. Now mostly the base cost of a round $25,000. Round up $100,000 to 150,000 for larger gun and 3 round salvo is still substantially cheaper and faster than 550mph 1.87 TLAM. Mach 7 rounds their targets in minutes. Also saturation bombardment extremely useful in area denial as well as MRSI. putting the VLS in one place is not putting your eggs in one baskets, its called design.The VLS can be mounted in any way .The USN just splits them. Ships with a single mounted VLS is not unheard of. In order to accommodate SH-60s or MV-22, the rear of the ship would be redesigned. AS Battleships are wider , their aviation hanger be much larger. Even the LCS ships have a aviation hanger. The only surface combatants without a aviation hanger is the flight one DDG-51. The USN puts helos any ship large enough to accommodate them. its called fact not dream work. 'Sorry but on this you are 150% high. 1. What magical material do you think has been found that will shave that much weight off? Heres a hint. Armor requires dense materials, dense materials weigh an awful lot. 2. We are talking about fucking railguns here right? direct kinetic energy penetrator munitions, the energy of which blows the fuck out of any other weapon of equivalent size for making armor a complete joke. and your answer is that we will start up armor production? No don't be that stupid - I've agreed with most of the things you've said in the comments thus far but this? too dumb". WOW you are a total jackass. .' What magical material do you think has been found that will shave that much weight off?" its called advances in technology nimrod. Traditional battleships used layers of Rolled Homogeneous Armour which give them protection at cost of extreme weight. RHA fell out of use as shaped charges and KE rounds penetrates it with ease. mmm so what replaced RHA oh right is called composite armour jackass. Composite Armor is layered with metal, plastic ,ceramics ,air and other materials. The combination depends totally on user. Example , DDG-51 class composite armour is double spaced armor with kevlar spall liners. Yes nimrod warships use kelvar which substantially lighter than steel . More to the point, modern warships use titanium and various out newly developed materials that save weight in areas where weight can be shaved. Example BB used boilers where today ships use gas turbine engines like the GE LM2500. Dynamic armor is the R and D phase which protections exceeds previous levels. Kelvar is being replaced with once again newer materials that lighter and stronger. "Armor requires dense materials, dense materials weigh an awful lot" no jackass its does not. Composite Armour is lighter than RHA and provides superior protection advances in technology ass. lastly KE rounds are not unstoppable There methods for defeating KE round however they are extremely hard to pull off.
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  8694. @Ben Grogan "You realize that volatility is common in any medium that has dense energy storage right? You do realize that railguns require sizable stations of capacitors to store electrical energy in a ready to dump form right" http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/02/18/us-navy-ready-to-deploy-laser-for-1st-time.html?comp=700001075741&rank=1 the Zumwalt class does not need capacitors for use of the EMRG as its generates 78 MW which more than enough to operate it. The EMRG needs just 25 MW This allows the EMRG to pull direct vice use stored power. The application of the EMRG on other ships completely depends on what engineers come as engineers have to yet develop a battery system which also has pass to NOSSA http://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/NOSSA/About-NOSSA/ The US is likely going to user the Seasaber instead on the DDG-51 class as it's power requirements substantially less than the EMRG. Beyond the DDG-1000s , its toss up on the EMRG http://www.janes.com/article/68550/usn-plans-accelerated-laser-weapon-fit-on-ddg-51-flight-iia-destroyer what do think generates that pressure" This is why I said you are comparing apples to oranges. You are talking Propellant blast overpressure. - I am not what does not matter for simple reason. The video shows the guns firing yet there is no visible overpressure and most importantly no sonic boom heard https://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/FactSheets/FS-016-DFRC.html yeah no NASA says bullshit. In order to test recoil, it would have be to mounted on a ship to study the effects of the EMRG while at sea. The fact that USN passed on it in favor of land based test effectively shows recoil is not a problem
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  8697. Ben Grogan "So, what you are saying here is that you have no idea in the slightest on how electric systems work. 1, Direct draw isn't a thing, there is more to electricity than wattage. The power is no generated at the voltage and amperage used by every system on a ship. this means transformation is required in order to get the correct variables. 2. Direct draw ISN'T a thing, Buffer capacitance is a thing for all high draw systems even if you look to home electronic you have surge protection in the average 4 plug extension cord, that isn't for no reason. When you have a sudden power draw come on a system the voltage will substantially drop, when that draw end there is a spike of excess power in the system until the generation ramps down . 3. If you where drawing direct there is still cap banks involved. railguns are a current release device, they need a stupendous amount of control over how much power is released at what exact moment, care to guess what electronic component allows them to control when the power is released most accurately?" pulsed alternators with flywheel energy storage once again you have zero clue what you are talking about. "a small 23lb is not going to anything as due to its size. its not 406mm shell, its 40mm shell" Again I point out that you where talking about upscaled battleship sized weapons, you are not talking 40mm shells The point is that 23lb 40mm going mach 7 at ground level does zero. The video links clearly zero effective when rail gun fires. That would be comparing apples and oranges, The degree of factors you are investigating when testing a new missile system are orders of magnitude simpler than the factors that are being investigated with an entirely experimental system with no operational analogs.??? that would be false as the USS Ponce with LAWS , USS Norton Sound with VLS, Sea Sparrow and USS Paul Foster/ USS Decatur Self Defense Test Ship (SDTS) say differently. These ships tested more than just missiles. trying to sidestep your original claim, what part of them going for a fixed testing position on land so they can collect data more efficiently translates in your head as recoil is not a factor for this weapon sidesteping would be you The EMRG is the first of its kind in the USN. The fact they skipped sea based trials is nuff said. The EMRG and AGS are first new gun systems since 1971. The 155mm has never been used on USN ships and as mentioned, the EMRG is the first of its kind. Example, The USN tested on the USS Hull Major Caliber Lightweight Gun (MCLWG) prototype. MCLWG was the first 203mm mounted on a USN ship. The USN does not have to test the MK45 127 systems as test data for 5 inch guns goes back pre WWII. The lack of testing of the AGS at sea due to financial constraints as cost per shell ballooned. When you mount a gun, you have to make sure that you have the right specs for the material needed for the mount to be able to handle the weight of the system. Empty and fully loaded as well as the stress of repeated firing. Stress of repeated firing also known as recoil produces metal fatigue and other issues. When firing however much energy transfers into the ship per ship. As shown previously , standard 5 inch guns produce considerable recoil whereas the video link provided shows no recoil on the EMRG. So there is no recoil to worry about, testing proceed on to other items
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  8698. Ben Grogan your responses show how little you know "it is a capacitance device and due to that fact it is volatile, you cannot change the laws of physics" you missed this part. A compensated pulsed alternator, also known by the portmanteau compulsator, is a form of power supply secondly flywheel energy storage. stores no power when not use so not a capacitance device. volatility again no. any loss of power to motor and energy is gone. Oh and what was that you where saying earlier about no charge time aswell? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage adding energy to the system correspondingly results in an increase in the speed of the flywheel Most FES systems use electricity to accelerate and decelerate the flywheel, that would be right here. by increasing rotation speed and energy, the charge time is reduced to zero. hence why its popular The video you linked - Note the camera buffeting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbgGxDxQfM liked to u 6 days ago noted the camera buffeting on 5 inch gun regardless of distance where the camera on the EMRG was point blank and barely shook The EMRG is the first of its kind in the USN. The fact they skipped sea based trials is nuff said. The EMRG and AGS are first new gun systems since 1971 I'm going to pretend I didn't hear you claim this is the 1st 8" gun the USN has ever used and suggest you read a fucking book I going laugh at your fucking ass for not reading the sentence. Theses are the first new gun systems since 1971. maritime weapon in a maritime environment testing is important for a system. The F-35 is plane not a gun.I suggest you read a fucking book long and short stroke recoil absorption. how exactly does a gas operated system lemme get this straight ,you talking shit yet you mention gas operated systems used in hand guns and rifles as comparison for artillery?? Artillery uses the Hydraulic recoil mechanism completely different.
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  8701. @Ben Grogan And once again you still trying to chop it up. Emphasis on act as but they are alternators not capacitor Most FES systems use electricity to accelerate and decelerate the flywheel, that would be right here. by increasing rotation speed and energy, the charge time is reduced to zero. hence why its popular" your link again stating things that directly contradict you whoever wrote the link did not read EMALS. EMALS has a built charge period for carrier operations. it takes 45 seconds for the handlers to move spot and lock a plane. Then add final safety checks and weapon arming. Secondly the EMRG is launching a mere 23lb whereas the EMALS is launching 40 ton plus plane. The EMRG has to be able to fire on a moments notice, thats the difference. As the EMRG only 5MW per shot, the DDG-1000 can have it ready to fire in split sec. EMALS and EMRG have vastly different power requires and size. MCLWG was the first 203mm mounted on a USN ship" 203mm is 8", Using 8" guns was the qualifying difference between Heavy and light cruisers yep and 203mm hasn't been seen since then. "Specifically look at the shot from ground level here at this time stamp compared to the shots from behind the gun, Note the RADICAL difference in vibration despite being in front of the gun where any overpressure would occur?" "you cannot even remotely pretend to calculate an overpressure comparison" No thank for proving once again , you are complete a ass. FYI thats what high speed cameras are for. As you previously noted the video shows the shots in slow speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWn_NhYzD_Y. at point 25-27 again high speed camera in action "The F-35 is a weapon system, The EMRG is a weapon system If ANY weapon system is being used in a research situation that is not its final operating situation that is indicative that they are struggling to get reliable, repeat performance in real world scenarios and are trying to remove variance" Once again the F-35 is plane not a gun. The EMRG comparing to 130 Rheinmetall is accurate , Using the F-35 as an example is pure nonsense No, that you knowing that someone is referring to the different physical stroke distances of a recoil absorption system as you like to say, apples and oranges
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