Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "More Perfect Union" channel.

Hearing this, I can't help but think that the biggest parallel to Elon Musk is Ray Kroc, especially insisting on being called "the founder" of a company other people built and eventually pushing out the actual founders. As much as he talks about wanting to be this futuristic visionary, I wonder if he got a copy of a book about McDonald's and decided to copy that method.
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Speaking of dishonest corporate strategies, have you ever noticed how nobody is an "employee" anymore? It's all "associates," "team members," "partners," "family," etc. Is this part of some corporate training to try to engender loyalty or something?
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@sk-sm9sh The McDonald brothers already expanded before Ray Kroc appeared on the scene. The difference is that they cared more about quality than quantity. The mere fact that McDonald's consistently ranks at the bottom in surveys of hamburger quality by any national chain says it all. They were right that expanding too quickly would hurt product quality. Without Ray Kroc, they probably end up along the scale of In-n-Out Burger and are known for their innovative model that also helped build Kentucky Fried Chicken and Taco Bell, because the brothers showed both founders how they did it and helped them develop.
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@barbarjinx3802 "The biggest car company in the world" based on what? It's surely not sales.
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"I don't care about blame." If you don't care whose fault it is, how do you expect to see it prevented in the future?
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The NFL will never change its ways as long as it gets rewarded financially and with eyeballs. The fans have to show the shield that they mean business.
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@sk-sm9sh There are plenty of things in this world that aren't legal but are definitely immoral. Is "it's not illeg" really your only moral standard for backstabbing?
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 @dissonanceparadiddle I call it right to work for less.
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@calixkinggaming7275 I'm shocked, shocked that a channel devoted to workers actually talks about the workers and doesn't give the corporate line.
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@barbarjinx3802 I'm not the one who thinks that a car manufacturer that has less than 5% of the market share is "the biggest ever." And even if everyone wanted his cars and could afford them, there isn't enough lithium to mass produce. Yes, I should study every word about a man who lies about everything.
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@barbarjinx3802 "They don't know how to make cheap EVs." And Tesla does?
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@barbarjinx3802 "by value they are" What value? "And this year, they will be by unit volume" Yes, because a company selling such a tiny percentage will outsell everyone next year. Enjoy the stock's inevitable downfall when the voting machine aspect is gone from the price and the weighing machine aspect kicks in.
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@barbarjinx3802 I'm pointing out that they are not the biggest, and just asking for evidence. Oh, and as far as you thinking that the weighing machine will make Tesla's price go up farther, let's look at the easiest way to see whether or not a stock is overvalued: the price to earnings (P/E) ratio, and compare Tesla to several other major auto manufacturers (the higher the ratio, the more likely that it is overpriced): Tesla 60.2 Toyota 9.89 Honda 7.82 Ford 8.56 General Motors 5.84 Volkswagen 5.40 One of these things is not like the other/One of these things is not the same/ One of these things is not like the other/ Now, it's time to play our game/ It's time to play our game.
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@meligoth Indeed. Elaine: I'm an associate now. George: So am I! Waitress: So am I.
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"Give them the chair! The chair!" Beavis
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@calixkinggaming7275 Still nothing of substance. Just some cliches about "both sides." If something is incorrect, have the courage of your conviction and back it up.
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@calixkinggaming7275 You just keep saying that "it's a gamble." It's not. You can compare working conditions in union vs. non-union facilities, and pay and benefit increases on the first contract. The results are crystal clear.
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@barbarjinx3802 Even if you're right about the Model Y (and that's neither this year nor next), that doesn't mean that Tesla is bigger than Toyota in terms of volume.
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@barbarjinx3802 I'm not the one upset that someone asked a follow-up about the ridiculous notion that Tesla is the biggest car company in the world right now.
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@sk-sm9sh "nobody bloody knew what McDonald's stood for as it was totally unknown at the time." It was so "unknown" that Colonel Sanders came all the way to California from Kentucky and Ray Kroc came all the way from Illinois to find out how it worked.
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@msmith53 You know what would have been even more generous? Not profiting off of paying minimum wage and fighting increases to said minimum wages, not ripping off the actual founders of McDonald's, and not contributing to damaging local economies so wealth could have stayed in the community instead of making her house bigger.
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@hughdismuke4703 So true. I already have a family. I don't need another.
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Even if a company treats their employees like royalty, a union gives people due process. At-will employment is always precarious, because the boss doesn't even need a reason.
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@juliewatson2281 Or, here's a thought: why don't we do what we can to make sure that people's opportunities aren't limited by how rich their parents are, and we get back to funding college. Would you have complained about high school becoming free 100 years ago?
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@calixkinggaming7275 When I was a student teacher, the grad students were unionized. Despite the loopholes for the school that seriously weakened the union, in the very first contract, salary went up nearly 40% and the contribution to the health insurance plummeted. I'd say that was a pretty good exchange for 1.67%. And even if the union doesn't win pay increases, it does a) get rid of at-will employment, and b) ensure a redress of grievances, because the company has to negotiate with the union. If a union wasn't so effective at getting things for workers, employers wouldn't be fighting them tooth and nail.
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@calixkinggaming7275 I'm pointing to an example of what even relatively weak unions accomplish. Funny how other than saying "it's not true" and "you're not listening to me," you're not actually saying anything about the situation. For all I know, you're a company stooge being paid to try to counter the organizing effort.
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@calixkinggaming7275 And literally one of the first things that happens after a union is certified is the end of at-will employment.
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@calixkinggaming7275 You're not actually saying anything. You just keep saying Union Bad and I Like It Here.
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Funny how these errors never seem to work out for the workers.
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@sk-sm9sh Where are you getting a McDonald's hamburger for under two dollars? Last time I went to a McDonald's, it was more than that. And those quality surveys also include cheaper chains such as Wendy's and Burger King. If Ray Kroc wanted to found something, he shouldn't have taken an already existing business. He should have started Kroc's, but he didn't, because McDonald's originally stood for quality, and had he not have had their goodwill to work with, he'd never have made it. And by saying that it should rely on the law, you are clearly fine with meat packers grinding up humans as long as it's not illegal.
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@sk-sm9sh Here, McDonald's is the worst, and if you like vegan options, the Impossible Whopper was the first to market. McDonald's sells a lot of food because it is everywhere, but most people over the age of 12 will admit that they don't really like it but get it because it is convenient.
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@sk-sm9sh The franchise model worked just fine for them. What Kroc later called "McDonald's #1" was actually the eighth McDonald's. The only reason why the actual original McDonald's closed was because they weren't allowed to use the McDonald's name, and Ray Kroc was such a greedy scumbag that he opened up a McDonald's right across the street and enough people didn't know which was which that it destroyed the business of what became The Big M. They didn't "fail at expansion," they just chose to do it slower, because they cared about quality.
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@jeremysnead9233 How much he got when it was bought out has nothing to do with his intellectual contribution to the company, but Musk himself said he got $180MM, not $1B. But his larger strategy has always been to find a startup that's farther along than his, buy into it, and say that he founded the company. I don't care if they use his code or not, because PayPal's other credited founders were much farther along the road than he was when they came together.
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@sk-sm9sh You avoided this question before, so I will ask again: if nobody thought that the McDonald brothers were anything, why did Colonel Sanders come out all the way from Kentucky to learn how they operated? Why did Ray Kroc come all the way from Illinois? If they were nobodies, why did people travel far and wide to learn at their feet? And, again, you're just making stuff up. They had multiple successful stores. Anyone can expand if quality is of no concern.
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@DisenchantedWithSociety Oh, he would come clean if people asked or bothered to give him money, but calling his first restaurant McDonald's #1 (when it was the eighth such location) and naming himself the founder of a corporation that shared the name of the restaurant instead of calling the company something else shows that he wanted people to believe that it was him. You're right that Musk was far worse about it, though.
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To quote a main character on a show where Adam was a recurring guest, what is this, a crossover episode?
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@calixkinggaming7275 It's your obligation to say if you have experience, not mine to beg for the wisdom of the person with the vague both siderism.
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@calixkinggaming7275 And where did you pull "a 10% chance" from? You might want to become a proctologist after that one.
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@rich2583 First of all, Democrat is a noun, not an adjective. Second, and more importantly, look at what has happened after union participation dropped. Over 40 years of stagnant wages while CEO pay has skyrocketed, and the creation of the gig economy. If unions were a relic that did nothing, companies wouldn't try so hard to keep unions out. Then again, it never ceases to amuse me how the corporate stooges can only repeat talking points. As far as unions giving money to Democrats, [in Homer Simpson whisper] unions can't use dues to pay for campaign funds, and most unions always endorse a few Republicans for fear of being painted as partisan.
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@bobsands3557 True, he had a business model, but it did involve going behind the true founders' backs and making his real money from real estate, and then breaking a royalty promise to the McDonald brothers that would have been worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
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@barbarjinx3802 You seriously think that Tesla has the highest profit margin? That's hilarious. If it wasn't for government subsidies and people buying overpriced stock, Tesla would have died years ago. And here's a dirty little secret: once other bigger companies scale up electric cars, their ability to build to scale will completely destroy Tesla. A company with literally less than 5% of the market is not "the biggest." The Musk fanboys get more ridiculous by the day.
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@barbarjinx3802 If Tesla makes 28% per car sold, then why have they been in the red so many times without them? And again, as the bigger manufacturers start building more electric cars, that margin simply cannot last, because they'll have to drop their prices to compete.
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@sk-sm9sh English translation: you want an amoral world where businesses can do anything that is profitable, regardless of who or what they harm, as long as it turns a quick buck. If you were alive at the turn of the 20th century, your biggest outrage with The Jungle wouldn't have been that people who fell into the grinders were sold and customers were unwittingly turned into cannibals, but that Upton Sinclair was trying to tell businesses how to operate.
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@barbarjinx3802 "Where did I say biggest ever?" You: "turned it into the biggest car company in the world" So, unless your beef is with me saying ever instead of right now, my point about your statement stands.
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@sk-sm9sh Here, Wendy's is roughly the same price, and Burger King is a little bit more expensive, but it is more beef instead of more bun.
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@barbarjinx3802 You literally called Tesla "the biggest car company in the world."
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@sk-sm9sh "their system wasn't that unique" It was literally the first time that anyone ever applied assembly line principles to food production. If something wasn't so innovative, why did would-be restauranteurs come from all over the country to see just how they did it? Kentucky Fried Chicken and Taco Bell got their start by learning at the feet of the masters. Who built a restaurant from scratch studying at the feet of Ray Kroc?
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@miker.1804 It was already profitable. The question wasn't about profitability, but about quality control. In 1955, Ray Kroc said a McDonald's hamburger was the greatest he ever ate. Nowadays, terrible low-wage employment is a McJob, McDonald's routinely ranks at the bottom in quality of any national burger chain, and it is all about churning out product. The seven McDonald's franchises that existed before Ray Kroc were doing just fine, and Dick and Mac McDonald showed the founders of KFC and Taco Bell how to make their visions work.
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Can't say I'm surprised that a reformer won a democratic election after the old guard refused. It's almost like they care more about their power than what the workers want. If only my union could win the right for democracy above the state level.
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