Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "Tulsi So Unhinged, Even Hannity Has to Shut Her Down" video.

@honeysucklecat Twice as many Hillary 2008 voters went for McCain as Bernie 2016 voters went for Trump.
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@djgeorge1469 It may be one of the few linguistic traces of the place of his birth, because he is a native Spanish speaker, and the U always sounds like OO, so my theory is that this is why he pronounces it Tool-see.
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@arrow1414 Well, the Green Party is a collection of grifters and useful idiots that are propped up by Republicans, so starting as a Green could mean that she has come full circle. That being said, Tulsi Gabbard was never really left. Her support if Bernie was an effort to fend off a primary challenge to her left by supporting a popular candidate, and going with her true hatred of people like Hillary Clinton. The Tulsi Gabbard we're seeing now is the real Tulsi. She's gone back to her pre-2016 form.
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@arrow1414 I figure that they are propped up by Republicans because at least 10% of money from the Green Party since 2000 has come from Republicans, and a large number of petition drives for the Greens (as well as candidates) have been largely the effort of Republicans in order to split the vote. Remember when the Hawkins campaign botched its petition drive in Wisconsin? Well, rather than respond timely, they waited until two weeks past the deadline, and then worked with a Republican legal firm to try to get on the ballot, when several counties had already started printing their absentee ballots, and if they had succeeded, tens of thousands of voters wouldn't have been able to get their ballots in time. Quite frankly, I don't care what their platform is as long as they work with Republicans to try to defeat what they see as a common enemy (Democrats) rather than actually trying to build a governing body.
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@arrow1414 Actually, that wing goes as far back as the America First Committee with Charles Lindbergh in the 1930s.
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@arrow1414 I had Morning Joe on this morning while getting ready for work (sometimes, it's important to k know what the establishment is saying, even if only to know what you may have to counter) they had a bunch of Never Trumpers, and one of them admitted that isolationism is the dominant historical thread in the American right, and that the Reagan era was the exception. I was surprised by that bit of honesty by a group that tends to act shocked, shocked that a party that has idolized the rich for decades and insisted that people should elect people to run government like a business would gravitate towards the logical conclusion of that idolatry.
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@pbj9270 "Since the Democratic Party treated her so poorly, it looks to me like she has shifted to the center right." She has always been on the right. And if someone really cares about the issues, that person wouldn't "shift to the right" because someone was mean to her. That means that it is all a grift.
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@pbj9270 "Some sources say torture does work." Tulsi Gabbard It is a war crime, period. There is no justification. If you think it's acceptable in any circumstance, you support torture. It never ceases to amuse me how the tulcels have to distort themselves in order to insist that she didn't say or do the thing that she said or did.
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The important thing is that you realized your mistake and are now wiser when dealing with some of these people. For me, it was seeing her 2014 interview where she defended torture, although I was primed for thinking maybe something was wrong after her Trump interview after the election (which later was revealed to be because Bannon thought that she'd be a great Secretary of State) and her Syria trip. I keep my autographed copy of Krystal Ball's book as a reminder to vet people before following them.
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@pbj9270 Her record was so "firmly on the left" that she got primaried from the left in every election cycle. Her record was so "firmly on the left" that she endorsed torture. Her record was so "firmly on the left" that she was one of only 16 Democrats to vote with Republicans to make it more difficult for Syrian refugees to enter the United States. And for someone who "wants to end the wars," it's funny how she reacted when Biden literally ended a war.
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@arrow1414 Peoples World has an article as well from 2020 about Wisconsin that they use as a springboard to show the long history of the red/green alliance. The article is "GOP election sabotage scheme using Wisconsin Green Party fails." After the main story, they give several examples of the Green Party being used as a flat out vehicle for election sabotage. Considering that their own nominee at the top of the ticket knew what they were doing, I think it's fair to say that a lot of party leaders know. It even has a link showing where ex-members documented how Republicans took over state parties.
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@arrow1414 Indeed. I was just surprised to hear the honest statement after hearing them say for years that Trump is the outlier and they're the real deal.
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@arrow1414 Oh, make no mistake, they have no problem with foreign entanglements. Their desire for international inaction is just like their concern over deficits: only valid when pushed by a Democratic President.
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@pbj9270 "she was for getting out of Afghanistan and Syria" 1) See her response when we actually got out of Afghanistan. 2) Her support of getting out of Syria was regardless of what happened to the Kurds there, and she ignored the predictable slaughter as soon as it happened, because she is content to watch the world burn. Isolationism is not peace.
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@pbj9270 "She is pro Medicare for All" She supports it so much that she called it un-American to Anderson Cooper. Twice. She supports it so much that she had her own fake alternative, Medicare Choice, in the primary. Anyone who knows anything about Medicare knows that Medicare Advantage is not the same thing.
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@pbj9270 "the far left hates her for being a soldier" Anyone who believes in human rights hates her because she hides behind her military status to defend war crimes, and a lot of people notice that she only ever talks about the effects on American soldiers. And as a veteran who briefly dealt with POWs during my tour of duty in Iraq, and as sergeant of the guard made sure that everyone was treated humanely, I was outraged to hear her defense of war crimes.
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@pbj9270 I mentioned it earlier. In 2014, in an interview on Indian TV, she invoked a scenario straight out of 24 to justify torture. She was literally the only candidate not named Michael Bloomberg to ever support torture who was running in the Democratic primary. The interviewer even gave her a chance to back out by saying that studies showed that torture didn't work, and she responded with "other people say it does work."
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@pbj9270 She literally said it in the interview when the interviewer pointed out yet another study that showed that it didn't work. (As much as she loves to trot out her veteran status more than anyone this side of Walter Sobchak, you'd think she'd know that the Army Field Manual prohibits torture.) And I can't say that I'm surprised that the person who insists that Tulsi didn't support torture found a way to justify torture. If it were my kid, I would know that torture doesn't work, and only leads someone to say whatever is necessary to make the torture stop. Yet again, it never ceases to amaze me how often the tulcels insist that they don't support torture and neither does their object of adoration, yet without fail, every single one has defended torture. The whole idea that its supporters use is that there are these emergencies that justify its use.
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@guitarandrums More people voted for her than said orange game show host.
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