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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "August Breaks Another Heat Record, Still No Climate Change Action From USA" video.
Saying that this August was the hottest ever recorded is like saying the Broncos won the super bowl last year. What does it even mean? In science you have physics and stamp collecting. This is stamp collecting. Physics is developing models to give explanations and predict future results. Right now that side of climate change is not developed. So right now saying that this August was hot means nothing. Also, why do people think we need the federal government to do something?
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I actually study science for a living. I am well informed on the topic and science in general.
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torchandhammer You can see a pattern, but what does it mean? Climate change has been happening for over 4 billion years and there is a lot of evidence to support that. What makes this special?
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Nicola Margelisch "Physics tells us that greenhouse gases are responsable for traping heat in our atmosphere. There are ways of measuring that. This is accepted throughout the entire scientific community." You are right about greenhouse gases, but how much of a role are they playing? We don't know due to our poor models and lack of a control in our experiments. "In terms of predicting the future: Models are they only way to do that. There is no other way. And we have models, which got better and better over the last years." In some ways yes, but they are still highly inaccurate. For example it is very hard to model water. There are several types of water models and right now our models are not accurate. "but the overall notion that humans are responsible for our warming climate is not really in debate anymore" It is highly debatable. Do humans play a role? Yes. But how much? We don't have a model to explain that. "As to why governments should take action against climate change: Because many people are idiots with no understanding of science" I agree, including politicians who use this issue for political gains and more tax dollars. "have no compassion for others, don't care about ecosystems and most importantly: Completely lack the ability to think ahead into the future for more than 50 years." But yet politicians do? "And to the best of our current knowledge, climate change may have dire consequences on our environment," Not really. The earth has gone through 4 billion years of climate change and the environment has evolved just fine. We have nothing that shows what is happening now is any different than what happened 5000 years ago or whatever time period you want to choose. "Do you want famine" Considering how we produce too much food it is safe to say that won't happen anytime soon. The fact is that climate change is still a very gray issue. We should continue researching it and progressing in technology. But we can't make radical decisions that will destroy our economy off of something with so much doubt. What I also find to be funny (and kind of sad) is that liberals want government to do something because they don't do anything themselves. Do you study science? If you do than you are a rarity of the political left. I study science and actually put in the work to progress our society. How about you start taking actions instead of spewing propaganda.
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I don't know. What I do know is that I am working on my PhD.
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"The scientific consensus is clear though. It's not as if half of all climate change scientists don't share the view of human caused climate change. More like 5-3%." There is no scientific consensus. If you read peer reviewed publications you will see they give very vague descriptions. No credible scientist is going to make the claim our politicians and members of the media are, on both sides. " And more than 95% percent of all climate scientists tell us that we have to act. " Not true. " Nature can adapt, but only over long periods of time and not a few generations. The rate of change is the real problem." With our technology we are fine. "I wasn't talking about western society but people who are already starving and live in areas that are very dry." Which has been an ongoing problem for years. "I'm gonna study Biology at a university in about a years time." Great, go in with an open mind. ". The government can do a lot more by investing in alternative energy production and abandoning coal as an energy source. " We can't abandon fossil fuels because right now that is the best source we have. Other forms of energy are inefficient to the point they are not usable at the industrial level, that includes scientific research. I use a lot of energy in my research. You will be hindering my work which is used to find cure for diabetes, cancer and so on. I also do work in alternative forms of energy as well. But that work requires a reliable source of energy which only comes from fossil fuels. And my energy need is low compared to other research. You will be hindering progress in science by getting off of fossil fuels right now. I agree, we need to progress, but we can't force anything.
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