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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Is Climate Change Action Doomed?" video.
I just don't buy that. There isn't enough evidence to strongly support that. A huge problem with climate change is that you took something complex in science and mixed it with something corrupt in politicians.
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Science is a business. They fight for money like any other business. Mix in the fact that when they get government funds they have to sell politicians something so they don't feel like they are wasting tax payers' dollars then you have a potential mess.
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So one republican represents the whole party?
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There isn't enough evidence that shows that past climate change has happen slowly and now it is happening fast. And who is to say that organisms are not adapting now? This is all evolution happening before our very eyes.
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.....and keep researching in climate change. The problem is that the left has made it political and told a public that is ignorant in science certain things that are dramatic about climate change simply to buy votes. Fossil fuels are the best source of energy we have. They are cheap and effective. Until we find another source we have to stick with what we have and not destroy the economy on a hunch.
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So republicans now push for creationism in schools? Maybe a few radical ones. Need I remind you about Judge John Jones III who ruled against that. Akin was one guy. Really, I rather have Akin over Pelosi who wants to pass a bill to see what is in it, or Obama who knows nothing about the economy and will say anything to get elected, and I voted against Akin. Stop watching radical news sources and start learning about both parties. I give actual democrats a chance because I am intelligent.
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How are conservatives, or more correctly republicans anti-progression? If you mean anti-progressing to a big government then I say yes. But in terms of advancement in science and technology, education and the economy I will say no. Republicans want us as a society to progress in those fields so we can continue on being a rich country.
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Conservatives don't try to drag us into the past. Really, they support science and base on their policies they do. They just want to keep science in the hands of scientists and not politicians. A huge problem right now is that we have people that think they know science but really don't (like atheists for example). Science is very important and I myself, as a republican, see that holding 2 science degrees, but there is also a lot of problems that go on in science and climate change is 1 of them
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I have seen the evidence. In my years of studying science I know when evidence is strong or not. I support the research of the climate and for alternative energy. Right now the evidence for climate change being bad and us as an having a affect is weak so we can't make a huge decision that will ruin our economy beyond repair.
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We do research so advance us but at the same time we have to look at who is doing the research. Yes, PhD holders are knowledgeable in their field but they are not gods. You mix big egos, lots of money and politics together you have a mess. I am not dismissing climate change. I feel that we need to do research in it and in alternative energy. The problem is that both politicians and certain scientist are trying to sell something so they over dramatize something to get a buyer.
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Except under Obama and when the democrats took control of congress in 2007 spending in science research went down.
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I don't think the GOP is blocking anything to address the problem of climate change when under them and Bush they increase the spending of science research. I never said climate change wasn't happening, it is and has been for 4.6 billion years. So now after all those years man is the sole cause of it and not nature and evolution is just going to stop?
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The right supports science. Once again, look past the politics and look at policies. The republicans support research in science and new technology, it makes our country richer. We need oil, it is the best source of energy we have right now. It is affordable and efficient. Until something better comes along then we can ease into it.
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I have. I have been studying science for the past 10 years of my life.
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And how is Bertrand any more relevant then anyone else? Like I said, millions of people wrote millions of books on millions of different things. A quote from a guy who has gone through multiple marriages about human stupidity isn't going to convince me of anything.
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Oil is a very efficient and cheap source of energy. Solar is making progress but it is still low in efficiency and expensive. Hydro is only good in some places. What do you do with nuclear waste? Fission is the holy grail of alternative energy but we are very far from that. All you have mentioned so far is the right's supposed record on the environment and that they are a bunch of creationist which is it when their policies of investing in more science and technology research says otherwise.
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Then what caused climate change before human involvement? There is still a doubt. And is it bad? I am not saying we shouldn't try to reduce green house gases but we shouldn't ruin our economy doing so.
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The biggest problem is that it is overdramatized. The evidence for how much man is affecting climate change and how bad it is weak but right now it is a way for politics to play political games and scientists to earn more grant money. We need to continue research in climate change an alternative energy. Really, despite the flaws I mentioned that science has that isn't the problem, the bigger problem is politics.
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The left has Pelosi, Obama, Sanders, Biden. Limbaugh and O'Reilly are entertainers, not politicians. The right support small businesses which is why the are oppose to Obamacare, a min. wage increase or any knew expensive and frivolous regulations. Like Herman Cain said to Clinton in 94, big businesses have the resources to go through new regulations where small ones don't. These policies the left imposes to attack big businesses actually hurt small ones which is why they support republicans.
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If there is such little doubt about climate change it wouldn't be an issue but there is a doubt so there is debate.
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No. Have you ever seen the article that compared Bush's house to Gore's? "Progressive" Gore's home using 20 times more energy then the national average and has spent over $30,000 in gas and electricity combined in 2006. Bush's house if very environmental friendly with geothermal heating, and underground water take that purifies sink and waste water to use for irrigation.
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Akin is a radical. Every group has radicals. Look at Obama, I don't consider him a democrat because he is a radical that just spits anything to win an election even after he won. Republicans have their base and they play their political game like any other politician and that does involve being fundamental Christians. At the same time republicans support strong business, both big and small. They support a rich nation and in order to have that we need science and technology so they support it.
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The fact is that oil is a very efficient source of energy and cheap. I refuse to drive a hybrid car since I drive the freeway a lot and I want to get up to freeway speed for safety, never mind the cost. We need to continue pushing for alternative energy and more energy efficient ways. I myself walk when I can, drive a stick for better mileage and a lot of cars are very fuel efficient. But we can't completely abandon oil.
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No, you have liberals that try to run away with the whole idea of climate change to gain votes. They paint climate change as being bad and that we need to do something about it when really we don't know how bad it is if at all and how much we affect the climate. This is a 4.6 billion year old planet that has gone through climate change long before man has been on earth. A driving force of evolution is climate change.
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Here the government does. People on the left are taking this climate change and running away with it to buy votes. They also use it to claim to be the party of science which isn't true, both parties support science and I would say that republicans support it more. And the Millikan Oil Drop experiment was about scientist being wrong for decades. Millikan found the charge of the electron but was off and for decades other scientist copy his experiment. When they came up with a different number.....
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I don't deny climate change. I question that if man is even the source. I question if it is really bad and if we can even do anything about it. A 4.6 billion year old earth that has gone through climate change in the past and a driving force of evolution is climate change, I question a lot because of that. I support doing research in it and in alternative forms of energy but we can't just ruin our economy on a hunch.
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The public is scientifically ignorant and don't know how science or scientist work. There is a huge doubt and it isn't well established or there wouldn't be a debate. In politics both sides agree we should teach math and history. We should find means of conserving energy. We should see that we have great healthcare. While their approach may be different there are certain things in politics that are not debatable. In climate change both parties feel we should find alternative forms of energy.....
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Congress controls and sets the budget. Under a republican congress spending in science research went up, it went down under a democrat congress. That spike you see is because of a stimulus package where spending in everything went up.
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It isn't overwhelming evidence though.
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That is smart government. Big government is where the government misuses it's power to invade people's privacy and rights. Or wasteful spending just to buy votes.
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For conservatives yes, but republicans are very progressive. A recent Yahoo article stating a republican dominant county in CO is pushing the idea of paying science and math teachers more which is very progressive. Bush pushed alternative energy as governor and under him as president spending in science research went up.
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No, I am saying that it was wrong and scientist for years held that value as so even though they were faced with different values when doing the experiment or determining the value again. Here we have scientists that are supposedly pointing towards man made climate change being bad with weak evidence. There is a great chance they could be off. Is climate change really strongly affected by man and is it really bad?
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He does have a point there. That is what happens when you mix something as complex as science that really no one understands and we lack a uniform way of communicating and mix it with something as corrupt as politicians. I have seen it where research groups just simply refuse to change their ways just because it gets them grant money.
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Once again, don't confuse politics with policies. A huge part of the republican supporting base are fundamental Christians so they say some of the things they say but their policies say otherwise. They constantly spend money on research in science and technology and advancing us as so. The right support science a lot. They are the party of the rich, remember?
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Yeah, just like the scientific community was convinced that Newtonian Mechanics were the way to go until we started studying the atom. Also, this is a world that is 4.6 billion years old. The universe is way older. There are so many questions out there we don't know yet. The scientific community is really convinced on this. Any scientist that says so otherwise is trying to sell something.
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Tell that to Judge John Jones III. Or to Bush who under him spending in science research went up and while he was governor pushed for more use of alternative energy. Or the fact that they want to double the budget for medical research. You should look at the difference between politics and policies.
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Just like you state couple of examples to try to show that republicans are anti-science even though their policies show otherwise.
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We need to continue the research in climate change and find ways to develop an affordable and efficient alternative form of energy. What we can't do is ruin our economy on something that does have huge doubt.
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With the flaws that science does have and how week the evidence is for man made climate change and if it is bad or not and knowing who is trying to sell it we have to have doubt. That same goes for people on the right. I get irritated when the right says climate change is a myth and don't want to do anything about it. At the same time we can't make radical changes on our energy and economy which is what people on the left tend to want to do.
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I hold a degree in physics and another in chemistry. I feel that I understand science better then you, you know a world that is 4.6 billion years old and has going through climate change long before man was on earth.
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To me conservatives are the radicals on the right where liberals are the radicals on the left. Democrats have liberal ideas and republicans and conservatives ideas but they listen to the other side. Republicans are resistant to change which is great for our society but that doesn't mean they are against progress. Just allowing change to happen without thought is potentially disastrous. I align myself as a republican and not a conservative.
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.....or I mean value then they thought they were doing the experiment wrong and worked until that got what they assumed to be the right value. That is what Feynman stated. Why didn't we find the charge of the electron earlier? Scientist don't like the idea that they can be wrong, especially scientists who hold their PhDs and have big egos. Not saying that climate scientist are wrong but could be off on their idea. Strongly possible due to weak evidence.
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I challenge scientist whom I worked with for years. I have seen the egos the PhD holders possess and how they all fight for grant money. We should listen to them but you also have to realize that when dealing with these people you are dealing with a group that will take something and run away with it. Right now, in climate change they are running away with the idea that man is having a huge affect on it and it is bad and these people have a hard time changing their mind after decades......
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You sir are one of the most ignorant individuals ever and that is sad.
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Don't confuse politics with policies. Bush pushed for alternative energy while governor and he even stated that global warming is real and it is scary. Republicans have pushed to double the funding for medical research which involves a lot of science. Under Bush spending in science went up. They rather spend money on medical and technology instead of social sciences. In Douglas County, CO a republican dominate county supports giving a higher salary to math and science teachers.
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Once again, don't confuse politics with policies. A huge part of the republican supporting base are fundamental Christians so they say some of the things they say but their policies say otherwise. They constantly spend money on research in science and technology and advancing us as so. The right support science a lot. They are the party of the rich, remember?
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Most scientist are monied interests. Man made climate change is not a well established position. If it were there wouldn't be a debate.
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.....Knowing all of that we should be deceptive with what those climate scientist and NASA state. Same with politicians at the federal level. While we should let them do research and listen to them we need to be careful. Scientist who have kept their egos in check, and don't fight for government funds, do support the idea that the evidence for man made climate change and how dangerous it might be is weak.
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I agree we should continue to do research on it and we should push for alternative energy something republicans support. What republicans don't support are radical ideas on a hunch. Oil is one of the best form of energy we have so we have to continue to use it. If you want to pay for something else then fine but we can't ruin the economy on a hunch.
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No. You have no clue how the economy works. Things have worth and value. A solar panel is expensive and takes up a lot so space. Windmills are expensive, destroy roads to move and take up farm land. Things cost money. If it were as simple as saving humanity then great, I am all for it but once again we don't know so we can't ruin the economy on a hunch.
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It is hard to overturn a widely held view because climate change all across the board has very little evidence. There is strong evidence supporting climate change in itself but why is it happening, is man playing a strong role in it, is it bad and so on have weak evidence supporting one side or another. I do feel that we need to continue research in it but we can't jump to conclusions that will hurt our economy due to weak evidence on either side.
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It wasn't the size of the electron since electron doesn't have a measurable size, we are talking about the charge. Millikan was off but everyone else took is as so. Why didn't we think it was off even though other scientists were getting higher numbers? Also, tell Judge John Jones III about the teaching controversy. Or that republicans support more money in medical research. Or Bush while governor pushing for more alternative energy usage. Don't confuse politics with policies.
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Once again, don't confuse politics with policies. Example, why did Obama all of a sudden say he supported gay marriage? Because gays are mostly liberal so he is making his voting base happy. Do you really think he cares that much about gays? No, he just says he does at points to buy votes from his base. Same holds true from the republicans. Their base are fundamental Christians so they appeal to them politically. With policies they support advancement in technology and science.
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A 4.6 billion year old earth that has gone through climate change long before man as on earth. And a driving force of evolution is climate change, I feel that there is a pretty big doubt. So now we, and the rest of nature are going to stop evolving after over 4 billion years?
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Millions of people wrote millions of books on millions of different subjects. Quoting Bertrand Russell holds little to no merit in the big picture.
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Under Bush and a Republican congress spending in science research when up. Bush supported alternative forms of energy especially as governor as Texas. New Yahoo article stating that a republican run county in Colorado is pushing to pay high school science and math teachers more. Republican judge John Jones in a court case ruled against the teaching of intelligent design in science classes. Republicans support science.
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....I have seen it in other areas of research where after having an idea for a decade or more a group is resistant to change it. I have seen PhD holders argue like children. There is a reason why businesses don't hire PhD holders because they usually all they do is argue really don't accomplish much. They are intelligent people and we should listen to them to a point but they are not gods. They are flawed and history has shown that.
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I viewed the evidence and like I said, this is a 4.6 billion year old earth and evolution has been happening for a long time. Scientist have been wrong before. Look at the Millikan Oil Drop experiment. Feynman used that as a great example where to show the flaws of scientist. Working with them personally I see the flaws of scientists. With climate change you mix something as complex as science and flawed as scientists with something as corrupt a government
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A huge flaw in science like everything in life is that you are dealing with humans who are flawed to begin with. Look at what Feynman said about the Millikan Oil Drop experiment. Also, at that level of pay as with everything else in life at that level you deal with people with big egos and competition for money, especially government money and people who just won't change their ideas unless some overwhelming evidence slaps them in the face......
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I don't doubt climate change. And what makes you think I believe in God?
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