Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Bernie Sanders Thanks The Koch Brothers For Proving His Point" video.

  1. Millennials are entering their 30s and starting to lean right.
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  2. Music, I love your insults when you are wrong yourself. These experts hired by right wingers only showed how much healthcare costs will increase for government. They, based on a conservative estimate, said it would cost the government $32.6 trillion a year. That is not including private cost where for a lot of countries is around 20% of total costs. And again, that was a conservative estimate. Saying single payer is cheaper has little evidence behind it. What government program in the US has saved money while offering high quality? And saying we receive less quality is simply not true. Preventative care does not reduce cost. Most preventative care can be done simply through a healthy lifestyle. The US has high obesity rates. If you worked for the insurance company you should know they push for people to live healthier lifestyles. You don't need healthcare access to eat healthy and exercise.
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  3. So medicare will run out of money unless we raise taxes? At what point do you stop raising taxes?
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  4. Loony Goons, in healthcare consumers don't pay, insurance companies do. Also, many people have their employers pay for part of their insurance so consumers hardly pay that as well. The idea that insurance is a big pot that all pay into is a major problem in our healthcare system. Insurance is there to take on situations where demand is inelastic. Look at car insurance. Car insurance does not pay for oil changes or new tires, situations you can shop around for and plan to pay, it pays for a car accident where someone hits your car and you need it fixed quickly. The issue with healthcare insurance is that it has become healthcare since it is a form of payment by most employers. So the idea of insurance being a big pot all pay into is not the role of insurance but it has developed into that and it has caused problems. Many issues in healthcare can be paid for out of pocket. Government preventing prices from going up causes inefficiencies in the market. Healthcare is complex. You feel it is simple because you hardly pay out of pocket for it. That is why healthcare is so expensive in the US. We have a for profit system with many regulations thus it is not a free market.
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  5. Read the study. One, it said it was a conservative estimate, chances are it will cost more. Next, that $32.6 trillion is just the increase in government spending and does not include a private option. That $3.4 trillion includes both private and public. You can't compare that $3.4 trillion a year to the $32.6 trillion being reported as one is just public and the other is both public and private.
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  6. Music, Every study does not say it is cheaper, even this study. This study showed how much it will add to government spending, and it was a conservative estimate meaning that chances are it will cost more. This study does not include private spending. Did you even read the study? I doubt it. You are just going off of Bernie tweeted. Saying every nation on earth is not an argument, they have many shortcomings and less R&D. Also, their culture is different which plays a role such as lower obesity rates. You talk about facts but so far provided none. Medicare is losing money, the post office is losing money, social security is losing money, public schools lack teachers. Thanks for the examples. A lot of preventative care comes from diet and exercise. Discount gym memberships? You don't need to go to the gym to exercise.
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  7. Eh, glancing at the study it says it will increase government spending by $32.6 trillion over 10 years. That is not including the private sector that will still exist. It also called it a conservative estimate. But whatever, leave out things to suit your propaganda.
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  8. Atmost11, and we have the highest quality, what's your point?
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  9. Raizhen010, did you even read the study? I doubt it. The conservative estimate is listed as a "lower bound". Chance are it will cost more. But of course you won't read the study, you rather go off of a tweet by a politician.
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  10. Raizhen010, I have seen the studies as well. Little suggests that single payer would be cheaper. Your point on overhead is flawed. Medicare has other government agencies to take on the costs that insurance does not. Insurance needs to pay for accountants and pays for disease awareness. Medicare has the IRS and CDC. Also, if you did a per patient cost for administrative cost Robert Book showed that Medicare cost $509/patient and insurance cost $453/patient, so insurance is cheaper. I bet you never read Robert Book's study.
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  11. Raizhen010, why do you only read studies that suit your confirmation bias? And why are you not reading this study mentioned in this video?
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  12. Raizhen010, apparently you did not read my comment in how Medicare can transfer their overhead cost to other government agencies. Also, apparently you are ignoring Robert Book's study even though you claimed to have read all the studies. Also, you did not read the study as it assumed a lower bound in cost. Chances are it will cost more. And it only looks at cost for the government and ignores the private sector. You have not read the study nor countered what I said.
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  13. Raizhen010, negligible or not you cannot compare the $32.6 trillion over 10 years to the $3.4 trillion per year as they include different sets of numbers. That 6% is close to Bernie's estimate. From the source they say site it says administrative cost is 4%, you are saying 2%. From that same source it says for private insurance it is 13%, you are saying 20%. So right away your numbers don't agree with what Bernie Sanders is saying. Also, you are saying a reduction of 18% from 20% to 2% where that study has a reduction of only 7% from 13% to 6%. You would know that if you actually read the study. I agree, facts are stubborn things. Also, reading must be difficult for you.
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  14. Raizhen010, I noticed you removed your comment. I wonder why.
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  15. Raizhen010, the 4% is from Bernie's own source. But I guess you can ignore that. I love how you ignore numbers I throw at you.
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  16. Raizhen010, you are ignoring the numbers I am giving.
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  17. Raizhen010, you are ignoring the fact that medicare administration costs more per patient. You are also ignoring the fact that medicare can pass many costs to other government agencies like the CDC and IRS.
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  18. Jordan, it is called history. The older one gets the more conservative economically they become. When you have to start paying bills and you get a job you become conservative economically.
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  19. Jordan, it is evidence. It has happened all throughout history. What studies do you have?
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  20. Vlad the guru, I know that for years social welfare programs have been growing while defense spending has been shrinking. I know where my tax dollars go. It would behoove you to use that technology to learn a few things yourself.
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  21. Saying we spend more than the next 8 countries combine on defense is deceptive. Our GDP is larger than those countries. We spend more on education than many of those countries combine, do you want to cut education funding? Since 1960 defense spending went from 10% of GDP to around 4% of GDP. Social welfare programs grew in spending in relation to percent of GDP over the same time period. You don't know where your tax dollars go.
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  22. secondpink, asking people to find new work is rather fascist. Also, hospitals will be receiving less funds while taking on more patients. They will not be able to afford workers and will have to cut. Hospitals in other nations do struggle.
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  23. It isn't free as you pay for higher taxes and longer wait times. My MRI was cheap and I waited only a few days to get it.
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  24. The reason why businesses pay with insurance is because of the payroll tax. Paying with insurance is a tax free way to pay employees. You need to ask yourself why businesses pay with insurance to begin with?
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  25. TYT has become an echo chamber. Watch the debate Cenk had against Shapiro. He called the audience stupid and told them to Google it and started changing "USA". That is why they don't have opposing viewpoints on their show.
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  26. Bernie did not even read this study. It said that it would raise government spending by $32.6 trillion over 10 years. Comparing to the $3.4 trillion is flawed as that $3.4 trillion a year is for all healthcare cost, both private and public. That $32.6 trillion is just public. It also called it a conservative estimate, chances are it will be higher. Bernie is lazy.
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  27. Oran, we spent $2.4 trillion on the Iraq war over how many years?
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  28. Uh, it isn't that simple but OK.
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  29. WilliamOccamensis, it isn't that simple. Canada faces many problems. Also, the US has a different culture than Canada. Healthcare is complex, you can't oversimplify it like you are.
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  30. Loony Goons, it is that simple to you but in reality healthcare is complex. Asking the government to pay for it adds bureaucracy and will hurt a lot of jobs in the insurance industry. Besides that, one reason why healthcare is so expensive is because people do oversimplify it. Consumers in the market don't actually pay, insurance companies do thus people don't actually know what goes on thus prices go up.
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  31. Michae Dove, you are not told the cost because you insurance company negotiates it.
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  32. Loony Goons, you can't say it is a big pot. Insurance companies can raise rates of those who are unhealthy or kick people off, at least pre-Obamacare. Also, again, that isn't what insurance is supposed to be for. Insurance is there to take on situations where demand is inelastic like car insurance pays for a car accident. Many situations can be paid for out of pocket. The fact that insurance has become a "big pot" is a major reason why prices are high. We don't know the actual cost of healthcare as us, the consumers, never pay. Just healthcare providers just jack up prices. Healthcare is not a human right as someone has to provide it.
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  33. Praxis, that isn't how insurance works.
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  34. Praxis, healthcare is complex. That is why you have professors that continue to do research in it.
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  35. Praxis, other professors found different results. Also, those professors you are pointing at only looked at public healthcare spending, not private. But of course facts are not your friend.
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  36. Praxis, in other nations private spending is around 20% of total healthcare spending. I would not call that "minimal".
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  37. Raizhen010, the fact you brought up MMT makes you unfit to have any discussion related to economics. MMT is a complete joke.
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