Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "" video.
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@prophet7885 to start, I did not run away from anything. Next, on asylum seekers, it is similar to legal immigration, there needs to be a standard. I never said I did not support asylum seekers, as with immigration as a whole there needs to be a standard. On the sources you cite, as with legal immigration, we are bringing in people who have skills and contribute to begin with. Illegal immigrants typically don't. This is, once again, you basically saying since legal immigrants and immigrants that come to this nation with a set standard are productive then we should allow all immigrants in our nation. It doesn't work that way. Immigrants that come in this nation legally are productive for a reason.
Also, illegal immigrants hardly pay taxes. Why? Because they can't pay taxes. The only taxes they pay are consumption taxes in which tourists also pay, so that skews the results on the reports you give. On the reports you are giving have a big flaw, how do you determine if a immigrant is here legally or not to get such data? And if you can, why are they not being deported? Getting data that you are presenting on illegal immigration is difficult because it is hard to determine if someone is here illegally or not. The data is unreliable.
On the Little Rock 9 what you had there was a local government violating the constitution. So the SC should have been involved. I was never inconsistent in anything I said.
How did you debunk me? Please tell. I have a standard and I stick to it. How did I run away? Please tell. I checked back on the comment thread days later and you never responded.
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@prophet7885 " the data shows that legal immigrants who lack education, are poor, and have a language barrier contribute more than they get from the government."
Yes, legal. I told you I have no problem with legal immigration as they follow the standard to get in. If they are able to follow the standard to get in chances are they will be successful. Just like if someone follows the standard to get into college chances are they will graduate.
"ven wanting all non-violent undocumented immigrants currently within the states to become legal residents still doesn't mean I want all immigrants allowed to come in. Try to comprehend that if you can. "
Then what is your standard? So you make all undocumented immigrants citizens. And 10 years from now we have more undocumented immigrants, do you make them legal? To me it seems like you have no standards. Also, when you become undocumented it is time for you to leave or get the documentations. If you can't then you need to leave. Follow the current standards.
The IRS "estimates". Ok. And again, if they are here illegally they do not pay income taxes. They will only pay a consumption tax. So that is where that estimate comes from. Also, it is more than just taxes. Think of the jobs they take up that Americans can use? Or consider how they do not grow as a person to take on more challenging and productive jobs? You are looking at the flat dollar rate as opposed to other factors. And with income taxes it is the same as welfare, you can't get it if you are hear illegally as you do not have the resources to apply such as a SS number or proof of citizenship.
" And on why they aren't deported when data can be collected from them, that's because not everyone is ICE."
Sure, but the IRS is supposed to report. Maybe at this point you are showing on poor the federal government is at doing their job. And how am I relying on my feelings? I am explaining to you how you can't just look at money and tax revenue as an indicator as one, there are flaws in such methods and two, there are other factors as well. How about an apartment space they take up that someone else can use? Or a job they take up that someone else can use? Or how where they live they do not have the ability nor desire to improve their living conditions and thus the neighborhood they live ends up being a slum. Several factors. For example, while they may not take in much tax dollars themselves, if they live in a neighborhood that ends up being low income and high crime, how much does that cost society? You need to factor that in. If you are here illegally you are not going to become a doctor, or even a working making a decent wage/salary. You are limited.
So it isn't feelings here. In fact, a PEW study says that the average household for an illegal immigrant is 3.1 people at $36,000 a year. These are not people who are going to contribute a lot to a local community and improve it. That cost society money and resources.
Look at the big picture and not cherry picked data points.
"Someone else: "This is absolutely against the scientific and medical consensus."
whyamimrpink78: "Maybe because they are on your side. That's my problem.""
When was this? What context? Again, you keep trying to quote me as if you are trying to make me look bad but when you do not give context that makes you look bad.
How am I inconsistent? If the local government violates the Constitution then the federal government steps in. The Civil Rights Act was unnecessary as we have the 14th amendment.
"When I brought up the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was in effect prior to that intervention, you flipped on that since that would mean you had to accept the Civil Rights Acts. "
Nope. Still consistent. The law is unnecessary because of the 14th amendment.
" So now, what should the Supreme Court have done to enforce the 14th amendment that the governor was violating?"
Easy, say the local government is violating it and tell them to stop. If they don't then they can have the governor or mayor or whatever government official violating the Constitution be removed. If that does not work you then go to force with the military. No Civil Rights Act needed.
So where am I not consistent?
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@prophet7885 ok, here is my response
" the data shows that legal immigrants who lack education, are poor, and have a language barrier contribute more than they get from the government."
Yes, legal. I told you I have no problem with legal immigration as they follow the standard to get in. If they are able to follow the standard to get in chances are they will be successful. Just like if someone follows the standard to get into college chances are they will graduate.
"ven wanting all non-violent undocumented immigrants currently within the states to become legal residents still doesn't mean I want all immigrants allowed to come in. Try to comprehend that if you can. "
Then what is your standard? So you make all undocumented immigrants citizens. And 10 years from now we have more undocumented immigrants, do you make them legal? To me it seems like you have no standards. Also, when you become undocumented it is time for you to leave or get the documentations. If you can't then you need to leave. Follow the current standards.
The IRS "estimates". Ok. And again, if they are here illegally they do not pay income taxes. They will only pay a consumption tax. So that is where that estimate comes from. Also, it is more than just taxes. Think of the jobs they take up that Americans can use? Or consider how they do not grow as a person to take on more challenging and productive jobs? You are looking at the flat dollar rate as opposed to other factors. And with income taxes it is the same as welfare, you can't get it if you are hear illegally as you do not have the resources to apply such as a SS number or proof of citizenship.
" And on why they aren't deported when data can be collected from them, that's because not everyone is ICE."
Sure, but the IRS is supposed to report. Maybe at this point you are showing on poor the federal government is at doing their job. And how am I relying on my feelings? I am explaining to you how you can't just look at money and tax revenue as an indicator as one, there are flaws in such methods and two, there are other factors as well. How about an apartment space they take up that someone else can use? Or a job they take up that someone else can use? Or how where they live they do not have the ability nor desire to improve their living conditions and thus the neighborhood they live ends up being a slum. Several factors. For example, while they may not take in much tax dollars themselves, if they live in a neighborhood that ends up being low income and high crime, how much does that cost society? You need to factor that in. If you are here illegally you are not going to become a doctor, or even a working making a decent wage/salary. You are limited.
So it isn't feelings here. In fact, a PEW study says that the average household for an illegal immigrant is 3.1 people at $36,000 a year. These are not people who are going to contribute a lot to a local community and improve it. That cost society money and resources.
Look at the big picture and not cherry picked data points.
"Someone else: "This is absolutely against the scientific and medical consensus."
whyamimrpink78: "Maybe because they are on your side. That's my problem.""
When was this? What context? Again, you keep trying to quote me as if you are trying to make me look bad but when you do not give context that makes you look bad.
How am I inconsistent? If the local government violates the Constitution then the federal government steps in. The Civil Rights Act was unnecessary as we have the 14th amendment.
"When I brought up the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was in effect prior to that intervention, you flipped on that since that would mean you had to accept the Civil Rights Acts. "
Nope. Still consistent. The law is unnecessary because of the 14th amendment.
" So now, what should the Supreme Court have done to enforce the 14th amendment that the governor was violating?"
Easy, say the local government is violating it and tell them to stop. If they don't then they can have the governor or mayor or whatever government official violating the Constitution be removed. If that does not work you then go to force with the military. No Civil Rights Act needed.
So where am I not consistent?
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