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Masuta Black Cat, Denmark and Canada have more of a free market than you think, especially Denmark. Also, what AOC supports is not what Denmark and Canada have. What she supports is way more extreme. Even at that Canada and Denmark have many shortcomings. In the end she can't explain her stance on anything. There is a reason why she has not been making many media appearances. She is being hidden due to her ignorance.
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Because voters typically don't fully understand the issues.
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Because her ideas are radical and not realistic. If she did her homework she would not be supporting her ideas, or she would be lying like Bernie does.
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Andrea, you can for several reasons. For one, their culture is vastly different. Next, they have many shortcomings and arguably are not any better than what we have now.
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Cute Dark Arts, a popular idea is winning the lottery. The majority would love to win the lottery. Do we lower the odds of the lottery and give money away because of that? Also, most people have not looked at the facts regarding healthcare. I have debated many people on the left on this issue and found that most have no clue what they are talking about.
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R. Forrest Blount, you are an example of someone who does not understand the issue. You point to an arbitrary ranking that I guarantee you have no idea how it was created. Ranking are arbitrary as anyone can do a legit analysis on the stats and come up with any conclusion they want. As prof. Robert Oshfeldt and prof. John Schneider did in their book they remove car accidents and murders from all nations and showed that in doing so places the US number 1 in life expectancy. A Harvard professor argued that bad health in the US is associated with lifestyle choices leading to shorter lifespans. We can have a deep discussion on this issue if you want, but reality is that when you break it down the US system is on par with other nations.
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So she is an idiot you say.
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MMT is a joke. You said that interest rates do not influence inflation when it does.
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If Medicare for all was popular why did close to 80% of voters in Colorado voted against universal healthcare in 2016? Reality is those polls are not reliable. They are vague questions on complex issues to a group of people who are not informed on the issues.
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It was low voter turnout in a very blue district.
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That fact check for medicare for all was legit. Sorry facts hurt your feelings.
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There are many ways to rip on AOC. Issue is that she is so dumb all you can do is laugh. If you support AOC you are an idiot.
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Why was Phoenix, AZ one of the two nations to offer that care? Hmmmm.... Seems like our system leads to better innovation.
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Charlie, what you said about research is simply not true. I work in scientific research for a living so I know a lot about that. At universities the public grants fund small projects that typically go nowhere, or get combined to create something big. That something big is funded and created by the private sector. Next, most Americans do have access to top of the line care. That is why close to 80% of voters in Colorado voted against universal healthcare and why every attempt to pass universal healthcare has failed. Most people are fine with the system and receive top of the line care.
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Charlie, Japan has a strong STEM program to begin with due to people there literally working themselves to death. The fact that Japan has it is a function of their culture, not their universal healthcare system. Look at all the technology that comes from Japan.
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HappyLand, the US is number one in cancer survival rates. They came a long way because their results were poor to begin with. If a fat man goes from 600 pounds to 400 pounds, they are still fat.
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Charlie, polls are unreliable. They are vague questions on complex issues that people know very little about. Asking for support for Medicare for all is hardly scratching the surface. If you were to ask the same people if they want to see their taxes go up I bet less than 50% would say yes. If you were to break down the challenges that establishing Medicare for all would create you would get a different result. That is why in Colorado close to 80% said no to universal healthcare. Also, we don't determine policy based on majority rule. If the majority supporting slavery would you feel we should allow it? I grew up in a poor area of the US, what is your point? They are poor due to limited resources and federal government overreach. Also, most people there want to mind their own business.
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Charlie, Medicare for all will not save money. It is an economic fallacy to say that increasing demand will save money. Other nations don't cover everyone as resources are limited Again, polls are not reliable. They are vague questions on complex issues where the people being polled don't understand the issue that well. Healthcare is as complex as it gets. When more information is given opinions change.
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Charlie, I read that study. It did not way it would save money. To start, it said it would cost the government $32.6 trillion over ten years. That is just for public spending. The $3.4 trillion a year we spend now is for both public and private. Now to be fair Bernie wants to outlaw private healthcare (read his bill, he does). However, that $32.6 trillion makes the assumption that prices won't go up even though demand will and that healthcare providers will be willing to take a 40% pay cut and still offer the same quality of care. If you believe that than I have a beach front home to sell you at a discount in Arizona. I have traveled. I have talked to Canadians and have received different opinions. Even at that anecdotal stories do not represent the entire situation. Based on that I feel the US system is great as I have never had problems.
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Charlie, I grew up in a poor area. Many people die in other nations due to shortcomings. What's your point? There is not perfect system. When you break it down the US is on par with other nations. And that study did not say that. You clearly have not read it. It made the assumption that healthcare providers will be willing to take a 40% pay cut and provide the same quality. Or that increasing demand will not increase prices. That is why in the study they admitted the number they published was a lower bound and chances are it would cost more. Let me ask you two question. 1. If you boss asked you to take a 40% pay cut, will you work as hard as you do now? 2. If you boss asked you to work more, will you ask for more pay? Be honest in answering that and consider that when thinking about that study you clearly have not read.
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Charlie, this is why people laugh at AOC and her fans. They refuse to have an honest discussion on the issues. You and her completely misrepresent a study to push an agenda. And when someone breaks it down how they are wrong AOC and her fans refuse to accept reality.
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Charlie, you did not form an argument. Saying that other nations do it is not an argument as there are many factors at play. Also, they have many shortcomings as well. You also have not shown that you have read the study as the study clearly says that the number they published was a conservative estimate and chances are the cost would be much higher. I don't care what the rest of the world thinks, they are not a powerhouse like the US is. In reality the rest of the world is scared that now we have a president that refuses to cater to other nations.
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Charlie, you did not. Saying "other countries do it" is not an argument. There are many variables involved. For example, the US is number 1 in obesity rates for OECD nations. That plays a role in healthcare because having a healthy nation means less demand for healthcare. Obesity is mainly due to lifestyle choices. You bringing up Nazis shows you have lost the discussion. You can't form an intelligent argument without berating and name calling.
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Charlie, we are obese because of our poor lifestyle. In Oregon a study was done led by a professor out of Harvard where 6000 people were given Medicaid and 6000 weren't. What was found was that those that were given Medicaid did not improve physically. Why? Because of poor lifestyle choices. You don't need healthcare to exercise and eat healthy. You bring up New Zealand, read the paper entitled "Waiting for elective surgery: effects on health- related quality of life" New Zealand, along with other nations, have many issues. So thanks for bringing up a country that I have research to point to.
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There are many variables involved in why something "works" in other nations. When you break it down other countries don't do it better. That is the reality.
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Robert, healthcare rankings are arbitrary.
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