Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "" video.
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@CorwinFound in the Constitution there is no right to an abortion, that is what matters. Doesn't matter what a court case said 50 years ago, as written in the draft Plessy v Ferguson was an incorrect ruling later overturned. So was Roe v Wade. Roe v Wade was an incorrect ruling as there is nothing in abortion that covers abortions, so by default, as written in the Constitution via the 10th amendment, to lands to the states.
"abortion WILL be illegal in a lot of states. So you are de facto arguing that abortion should be illegal since you are willing to have the right to ban abortions ceded to various states."
That is 100% false. I am not saying abortion should be illegal. However, I stand by my principles of following the Constitution and how it sets up a limited federal government and state rights. If a start outright bans abortion I will disagree, but if I do not live in that state, if I do not pay taxes there, vote there, etc. then I can't do anything about it nor should I have a strong, if any, opinion. As is states have a lot of control of many domestic issues and many states do things I do not agree with. I did not live in CA but I lived near it. There are many things it did I disagreed with, but since I did not vote there, pay taxes, live there, etc. my opinion was not strong and what little I have is not important as I have no way of changing what goes on there.
I stick to my principles. So wile I feel abortion should be rare, safe and legal, I feel more strongly about the idea of a limited federal government and more state rights.
"So you are de facto arguing that abortion should be illegal"
To say it again, and be clear, I feel it is more important to have a limited federal government and more state rights. Compare it to free speech. If someone says something racist I will disagree with them. But I will defend their right to say it without punishment from the government. Why? I feel way more strongly about free speech than opposing someone saying something racist. I rather have people say racist things as opposed to having government have power to silence them.
Thus, I rather have state rights and have states decide if abortion should be illegal as opposed to a centralized government making decisions.
Again, not to be rude, but maybe people do not argue with you as you make assumptions about people. You are saying that be default I support abortion being illegal. That is 100% not true. What I support are state rights over the abortion issue.
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@CorwinFound "So yes, I believe that a right to privacy and bodily autonomy should be protected by the federal government."
What level of privacy? If I commit a crime can cops investigate it? Based on your standard that is no as I have a right to privacy. And for bodily autonomy, the issue people have is what is inside the woman. Again, many feel abortion is murder for many reasons. And many are legit.
" I disagree on other government rulings that limit a person's right to their own person including euthanasia, trans rights to medically transition, the decriminalization of most recreational drugs, and decriminalization of sex work. "
And there are fair arguments for and against those points. But with abortion you should understand many feel it is murder as they are concerned about the baby and not the woman.
"If you want to have a debate about abortion because you actually care about the outcome, I'm down. If you want to argue legalese while actual rights are being stripped from women across the country, I'm out. You don't care enough to be listened to by people who actually do care deeply."
Reading that it is clear why many do not want to debate you. I care about the outcome, and the outcomes vary. Many local communities are willing to make abortion illegal as they, as a community, will help raise the kid. Some communities, like Los Angeles, a large city were local communities are not strongly connected, will feel differently. I know in the community I lived in there were many single mothers and they were helped out a lot. Thus, while abortion was legal, they refused to get it as they knew they would receive local help.
Again, this is why it is a state issue, it varies by different areas.
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@CorwinFound so I can keep writing and you won't read? You said at the very beginning this
"They don't want to debate abortion and they don't want to debate the loss of civil rights."
And that is what I am here to do. But now it seems like you don't want to have the debate.
" I specifically brought up a 10 year old in Brazil who received an abortion."
And that is in Brazil, not the US where that is the issue we are discussing.
"There are trigger laws already in place that make no exceptions including rape, incest, health of the fetus, health of the mother."
Ok, such as? Can you please list them. I did not ignore your point, I asked you to list them.
"You won't address that as a reality then I'm not going any further"
Because, from what I see, it is not reality. You need to give me sources that it is.
" A basic Google search brought up Texas (current law, no exceptions past 6 weeks) and Kentucky (trigger law, blanket ban, no exceptions.)"
Ok, and here is the issue. There are 6 weeks to do it. Not a flat out ban like you are describing. That is the counter argument. You are not even looking at the counter argument. Not saying I agree, I am saying they exist.
" I didn't bother to go any further because even one state with such a law is more than enough."
Well, do you live in TX? Do you vote there? Do you pay taxes there? If the answer is now then you really have no skin in the game.
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