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northmeister Another point on guaranteeing healthcare, we lack resources. So if the government guarantees that I can have surgery but there isn't a doctor in my town that can do it does the government force a doctor to perform surgery on me? That is slavery, but I have my right to healthcare. You see the problem? We lack organs for people. We have people on waiting list for kidneys. Is the government going to force people to give up their kidneys for people? The government can't just wave their hand and then something appears, they have to take it from people with force.
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A difference between free speech and owning a gun and healthcare is that is that healthcare can be used by the government to control us, guns and speech are a way for the us to control the government. Big difference. You can't compare us to other countries. Denmark has some sort of government healthcare, it also has mandatory military service. Imagine how different our culture will be if we had mandatory military service. This is the first time I heard of Thom Hartmann and after just 2 minutes I just debunked everything he said and stands for. And this guy has a radio show? Man we have idiots in this country.
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northmeister Government can't guarantee you access to anything. Just because it controls something doesn't mean it guarantees you access to it. Government has nothing. The only way it gets something is in a form of a tax. With healthcare it will have to tax the citizens their resources they earned and then offer it back to the people. That is different from free speech, press and religion in that you have the right to pursue those things without fear of incarceration. You don't need to rely on the government to offer you those things. That is the difference and it is a big difference. We can go down the road of facts and how the US already has socialized healthcare at the federal level and how poor it is. Or how we can't compare ourselves to other countries. Or how FDR dismantled the constitution that has led to the problems we have now. Believe me, there is so much you don't know.
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Rt Gall We don't have plenty of resources. Resources are limited, and even more so because we do have a group of people who refuse to produce in this country but instead take. Med school is based on ability. People don't get in because of lack of ability. Look at Med. schools and their acceptance rates. I teach pre-med students and I just gave 6 of the 24 I had B's which means that they won't get into med. school unless they retake the course. Med school is expensive but with the pay later on the cost means nothing, it is all about ability.
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Rt Gall And who determines who has the best chance for survival? I personally don't want my fate to be in the hands of the government and them giving someone else an organ I can afford. Who are they to decide I am not worth it? If I earned enough income to get an organ then I have proven that I am productive in society. " A lot of people with kidney disease could have avoided needing a transplant if they had received the proper care before their condition became life threatening." Really? Are you going to say the same thing about heart problems or diabetes and so on? How many people pursue preventative care? Not many because they don't want to spend the time doing it. We are a nation that is in the top 10 in obesity. Access to healthcare won't prevent that. "EVERYBODY ON DIALYSIS IS COVERED BY MEDICARE AND/OR MEDICAID. WE COULD HAVE PREVENTED MOST OF THE NEED FOR DIALYSIS IF WE HAD UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!" What do you base that off of? Once again it comes down to we don't have enough doctors and goods and services available to cover everyone. Either we have to increase spending to cover the lack of resources or ration out care. The government can't just wave it's hand and things magically appear. Have you ever been in line to the post office, or at a welfare place, or the DMV? It is very inefficient. And you think they can manage healthcare?
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Rt Gall As I said, med school pays off in the end. People don't go because they simply can't do it mentally
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Rt Gall So a child who could grow up to be a criminal should receive a kidney over a developed person with proven worth? Preventive care doesn't solve everything. Plus, even if available you can't stop people from having poor diets and exercise habits. If you are not making enough then you need to work to get out of it. Prove your worth in society.
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I can identify a lot of areas where Bernie Sanders doesn't stand for American. He wants to expand the size of the federal government getting less representation of the people in government and more representation for those in power. And the min. wage was raised around in 2007, that is really recent. And it has been raised in several states. Never mind the fact there isn't one single good reason to even have a min. wage the fact is that it has been raised recently. Thom Hartmann is an idiot.
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logan511962 Yep, anyone that disagrees with you is a troll.
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Sharon S Actually raising the min. wage will put more people on welfare because of lost of hours and increase prices. Nothing good comes from the min. wage. Welfare at the federal level is expansion of the federal government. Bernie wants to expand the power of the federal government which will create more problems.
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Sharon S If you took a course in economics you need to get your money back. Think about what money is. Money doesn't drive our economy, goods and services do, essentially wealth. Since money is no longer tied to a standard of a precious metal (like gold) it derives it's value solely on the goods and services it produces. You don't need to create demand. There is infinite demand for better goods and services. The problem is the inability to consume due to lack of resources. Just giving money away without increasing the amount of goods and services it produces lowers the value of money which is why we see increases in prices. So raising the min. wage doesn't do all of what you said because if it did then we can simply raise it to $200/hr. The reason why there hasn't been detrimental effects (I never said it did by the way) is because the economy is complex. The min. wage has been raised around a few dollars at most in our society. Nothing good comes from it but all the negative results get lost in what is called the statistical noise. For example, the state of Washington has one of the highest min. wages in the country over $10/hr. $10/hr is a small amount. All the negative results get lost in all the other variables that are involved in the economy. If you were to do an analysis and remove those variables and look at select groups you see negative effects. WA has on of the highest youth unemployment rates in the country. Young individuals are low skilled and are typically low wage workers, it makes since they lose employment. Now overall unemployment may drop but that is due to other effect. My state has a min. wage higher than the national, it also has some of the lowest taxes in the nation which is leading to more jobs, a company just started up that pays $26/hr. The min. wage means nothing to them at that point. As I said, you need to get your money back on you econ. class. I get paid $1800/month to teach 40 students a semester, I gave you this lesson for free. You are welcome.
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lucidity910 One, I teach the physical sciences at the college level. Another, this is a youtube comment page, not a dissertation, not work I am looking to get publish but a comment page. Grammar is not that important as compared to content. So if all you have as a rebuttal against me is my grammar on a youtube comment page when you never seen any of my published work then I feel that you clearly don't know very much.
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Dan Underwood If you raised the min. wage to $15/hr then prices will go up and hours will go down.
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Sharon S Predictions are not hard when they are in theory to happen and have happened in practice. It is like saying the sun is going to rise from the east tomorrow morning.
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Dan Underwood Denmark doesn't have a min. wage. Plus you really can't compare the US to other countries, especially one like Denmark which has a population of less than around 30 states. And never mind that you are determining the state of a country's economy off of the min. wage and the price of a big mac. You do know that overall cost of living is cheaper in the US? And if you want to compare healthcare the US is number one in cancer survival rate and in life expectancy when you remove accidents and murder, two factors not connect to healthcare, the US is number one. But hey, you just determined the state of a country's economy off of the min. wage (which doesn't exist in Denmark) and the price of a Big Mac.
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Dan Underwood I guess you didn't read. I said if you remove factors such as murder and accidents, things not connected to healthcare, or all intents and purposes, at all, the US is number 1 in life expectancy. This was looked into by professors at the University of Iowa and Texas A&M. The US is also number one in cancer survival rates. Yes healthcare in the US is expensive, but most are the reasons why are due to the federal government. I can point to a policy in the 40s that caused prices to go up. Also, while cheaper in other countries you get what you pay for, as in longer wait times and arguably lesser quality of care. Denmark does not have a min. wage. Even with that the US has a higher GDP per capita and it has an even higher one when PPP is taken into account, Denmark has a lower one. Cost of living is higher in Denmark. Their "$20/hr minimum wage" doesn't go as far.
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Sharon S Nope. I don't really know what is going on in Greece because I really don't care. I am concerned with what is going on in the US and what works here.
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Dan Underwood It isn't a joke or a cop out. Studies that claim that the US doesn't have the best system uses a broad stat as in life expectancy and point to the US being 34th. But if you remove issues such as murder an accidents for all countries the US is number 1, thus that should improve their healthcare rankings. But studies designed to make US healthcare look inferior won't do that. On cancer, so you want your mom to die? Never mind that your mom is a just one story. I know of a story of a UK girl named Natasha that died from a brain tumor after seeing several doctor. Look up the story, she was 16. The stats are there, we are near number one in cancer survival rate. "it's for profit" What is wrong with profit? Profit means competition which means better goods and services at a more affordable price. "You only have longer waits for non critical care. Actually in critical care their wait times are comparable to ours." Why do I have to wait longer? " And their healthcare is ranked better. " You mentioned that before and that is debatable. I have shown you why. "Out of 11 advanced nations compared in a recent study America ranks 11th in almost every subject." I have seen that study and as I said it was designed to make the US healthcare system look inferior. That is why respectable people don't cite it. It is a flawed study that I took down by simply looking at life expectancy. "It goes a lot further than our $7.25 an hour. It goes further than our 14 an hour. What are you for laissez-faire capitalism?" It isn't $14 in Denmark, cost of living is higher in Denmark. If the min. wage is do high than why is GDP per capita so low? And to answer your question it is no.
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Dan Underwood In your mind it is a better option. You have to realize that if that doctor were to give your mom something else, even if in your mind it was better, and your mom would be worse off they are liable. Also, you can always see another doctor. "And why would we pay out the ass for a system that is more often than not horrible? " The only real horror stories are dealing with cost in the US. I believe you are talking about a different little girl. The one I am talking about had a brain tumor that would have been found if the doctors would have simply done an MRI instead of having her wait months to get it. For profit has made thing cheaper and better. It is a flawed study, I have shown you why in just life expectancy. A more in depth investigation will bring up more flaws.
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Dan Underwood Then how about you go to med. school and you change the way cancer is treated. Right now you are telling doctors, experts in their fields how to do their job. I have had my run in with doctors as well, difference is that I am PhD candidate myself so maybe I come across better. Ever try changing your approach? There are not many horror stories about quality of care in the US. Even Michael Moore's movie Sicko was basically on cost. Cost is the only problem with our healthcare system and it is mainly due to federal government policies. The for profit system and a more capitalist system would lead to lower prices. Product last a long time if you take care of them. My Ipod has lasted me 10 years. My car last longer than older cars today. And even if you have to buy more they are cheaper than in the past. Just simply look at the technology people have access too. Smart phones, HD TVs, blu rays etc. They cost less and are better. The reason why food cost more is due to government policies such as the min. wage for example. We are producing more food than ever but prices keep rising. That doesn't match theory, but when businesses have to pay a higher price in labor then prices have to go up. That min. wage has outpaced productivity leading to higher prices. "We also spend more on healthcare than any of the socialized countries do." And we get the best results. And the high price is due to federal government policies. And the ACA is going to make it worse. Segments of healthcare that were not effected by the federal government's policies have seen their prices decrease such as LASIK for example. There is always wealth inequality, that is natural and good for a productive society and economy. That is because not everyone desire to develop a lot of wealth. A home owner has 30 times more wealth than a renter, a home owner has around 60% of their wealth in their home. Beyond owning a home the average person does not have much wealth. That is because not everyone desires to run a major corporation or business. I don't have much wealth but I don't care. I am still well off. " If we could narrow the gap then our ratings in the world would rise. " We are still very strong compared to the rest of the world. You really can't compare us to other countries and if you do then you will see that we are comparable to other countries and within the standard deviation. That difference is noise due to several variables. Thus you really can't say who is better. Look up the Forbes article "The Myth of America's Poor Life Expectancy"
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