Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "VP Mike Pence Is Getting The 'Working For Women' Award" video.

  1. What Kyle is pointing at is not anti-women. There is no right to an abortion, period. Planned Parenthood should not be funded by the federal government (and actually gave millions to the Clinton campaign, so much for money out of politics). We have laws against domestic violence already that are applied to both sexes. Women can commit domestic violence as well (looking at you Hope Solo). Cutting funds on domestic violence programs effects both sexes. Same with HIV testing and programs. So point to me a specific policy that Pence supported that is anti-women.
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  2. "who the fuck is Pence to tell a woman what she can or can't do" You can say that about any politician. Why isn't assisted suicide legal for example?
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  3. " Ignore that the vast majority of victims of domestic abuse are women" Ok, than why does Kyle bring up HIV? The largest group infected by HIV are black, gay men. The second largest group are white, gay men. So what does that have to do with women then?
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  4. It is unconstitutional to give federal funds to it. That is my problem.
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  5. All that Kyle listed are not even purely about women. Women can commit domestic violence as well. Men can get HIV and most who have HIV are black males. But of course Kyle will twist information to fit his narrative.
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  6. Daniel, black, gay men account for most people infected with HIV. Why does Kyle bring up the HIV thing in comparison to women then?
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  7. Lord Caelvanir, it doesn't matter if they use that money for abortions or not. I am not concerned with that. I feel that PP should not be funded at all by the federal government. Also, when they receive federal funding for certain things, they can allocate money to abortions easier.
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  8. takeshii, I agree. But how is it what Pence did anti-women? That was my point. Same thing with domestic violence.
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  9. Daniel, I agree with you on that, but I still don't see how it is anti-women in any way.
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  10. "Not in this specific outbreak. Were you not listening?" I was listening. Kyle asked "I wonder how many women were affected by this?" Kyle does not give a hard number as he does not know. Going off of CDC's statistics most new people being infected are gay men. So again, why bring up HIV?
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  11. TheDivine MrM, it is clear to me you weren't even listening to the video.
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  12. Daniel, I am not splitting hairs. None of these policies are anti-women as women are not the only ones being effected here. You may say abortion does, but there is an argument that abortion is murder where murder covers both sexes. " Defunding PP however, is anti-women" Both men and women use it. "Women have far higher health costs than men" Ok, but then why bring up the HIV incident? Men make up a larger portion of those with HIV. Also, by the way, PP tests for HIV.
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  13. "If you do support a bunch of policies that negatively effect a lot of ppl, including women, then how can you be awarded the working for women award?" Because it effects both sexes,not just one. That is my point. If what he did was a good policy or not is another discussion. But my point is that none of what he mentioned effects only women as they effect both sexes. Thus they are not anti-women. "I mainly object because defunding planned parenthood also means less contraceptives for women=more unwanted pregnancies, less cancer screenings etc which will also harm women." PP also give HIV testing where most who are infected are men.
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  14. "The only one that didn't seem to listen to the video is you!" But yet I quoted it.
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  15. "The reason I mentioned the fact that women have higher healthcare costs is because Pence supports defunding the largest organisation aimed towards providing these costs to low income women" I agree that women have higher costs, but again, men us PP as well. I used it before. In the office in PP in my city are a picture of two gay guys saying "Someone is negative in a good way". As I said, men make up a vast majority of those with HIV. An anti-women policy will be pushing so women can vote, or women can't work a certain job. Pence did not do that. These polices effect both men and women. Kyle brings up the HIV one with needles and HIV testing and as I said men make up most of those infected by HIV. So you may say "women are mostly victims of domestic abuse" or "defunding PP hurts women more", and you will be correct to a point. But then why bring up the HIV incident? That's my point.
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  16. " You do realise that high numbers female heroin addicts use prostitution to fund their habit?" You do realize that outbreaks are highest amongst gay men? https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.html https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/substance-use-in-women/sex-gender-differences-in-substance-use With that it says women are less likely to inject heroin. Really, you need to learn some facts before you can get to opinions.
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  17. "but black gay man have the highest HIV rates so everything we say is invalid apparently." I am not saying what you are saying is invalid. You have some validity in your points, which I agree with. What I am saying is that 1. None of these policies are anti-women are both sexes are effected 2. You lack consistency in your argument. You feel that women are more likely to be victims of domestic violence and PP helps poor women more, both of which I will say is true. But than why bring up HIV? Same with war? More men die in war.
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  18. TheDivine MrM, I answered you questions except this one " what point of THIS WAS A SPECIFIC OUTBREAK OF HIV AMONG NEEDLE USERS CAUSED BY PENCE do you not understand?" I understand the issue. My point was that it effects both sexes. And based on statistics chances are gay men are effected the most. So how is this anti-women?
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  19. " you just stated HIV is a gay male problem because they're the highest demographic among HIV infections, even though obviously other demographics contract HIV" I agree, so it is not just a male issue, it effects both sexes. "Yet women make up the largest percentage of PP patients and are most reliant on their services" I agree as well, but both sexes use PP. "so by your logic, even though other demographics use PP, PP deals with women's issues primarily." No, that is your logic. That is what I am arguing. Here is my initial comment " We have laws against domestic violence already that are applied to both sexes. Women can commit domestic violence as well (looking at you Hope Solo). Cutting funds on domestic violence programs effects both sexes. Same with HIV testing and programs. " Same goes with PP. Both sexes use PP, so cutting funds there effect both sexes, not just women. You're talking in circles and addressing nothing.
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  20. " both sexes are not equally affected though. " I agree. But in the end it comes down to two things. 1. both are effected 2. If you want to play the game of proportions than why bring up HIV and war, where more men die in war and more men are infected with HIV? That's my point. If you want to stick with programs that influence women more than men than don't bring up HIV and war. You will have a stronger argument. I still won't agree for other reasons, but your argument is stronger. If you are going to bring up HIV and war, like Kyle did, than your argument is weak as I just showed here.
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  21. Count Deku, I agree with you. I see no reason for this award (that I never heard of until today) besides it coming from a conservative source.
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  22. " If women rely on PP more heavily then men, they are going to be hit harder by its defunding." I agree, than why bring up HIV and war than?
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  23. ""Both sexes are affected" is not a valid argument as the magnitude of the effect on each group is not considered. " It is when you bring up HIV and war, both of which effect men more than women. Also, it brings up another point. Laws are supposed to be equal. If PP is there to help women and only women than it is unconstitutional as it discriminates. Laws are not supposed to discriminate. Thus PP should not be funded unless it benefits men as well.
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  24. So, does PP benefit men? Yes or no.
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  25. Nope, charities are ran and funded privately. I said laws can't discriminate. You should read what I wrote. Charities are not ran by the government. In case you refuse to read up, here is what I said " Laws are supposed to be equal. If PP is there to help women and only women than it is unconstitutional as it discriminates. Laws are not supposed to discriminate. "
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  26. Daniel, what are you talking about? You clearly did not get the point.
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  27. Kyle also brings up HIV and war where more men die in war and most infected with HIV are men.
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  28. And that is fine. But Kyle bringing up the HIV incident does not mean Pence is anti-women.
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