Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Ben Shapiro: America Is ‘Founded On Judea-Christian Ideals!’" video.

  1. When has Shapiro ever discriminated?
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  2. It is because Kyle is a puss. He knows his ideas are not strong so he continues to live in a bubble. I can destroy him on the issues, Ben can do it much better.
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  3. Why doesn't he?
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  4. It is the other way around. Kyle is wrong almost all the time and is easy to call out. This is why he refuses to debate anyone. This was actually the first time I have seen Kyle or anyone on the left have a legit point against Shapiro. The first time. Can you name other times Shapiro has been wrong? I can list many times Kyle has been wrong.
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  5. Shark Wave, where has Shapiro been wrong? "Shapiro's ideas have been debunked by history. Voodoo economics causes the economy to boom and then bust. It's fake growth. This has happened 3 times in history( 20s-30s, early 80s- mid 80s, 2000-2008)" In the 80s we had strong economic growth. In the 2000s we had the housing bubble where the federal government bailed out the banks making the recession worse. In the 20s we had strong growth. Recessions happened, what made the 30s bad was the federal government bailing it out. Shapiro is against the federal government "fixing" the economy with spending as such practices led to our two major recessions.
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  6. "he compared healthcare to buying furniture." Which is true in the sense that healthcare, like furniture, is a commodity. The more rare and harder it is to build something the more expensive it is, as it is with furniture. Healthcare is the same way. The comparison is spot on in that both healthcare and furniture are commodities in that someone has to provide it. If you cannot get that basic economic concept down than we cannot discuss healthcare. " he said arabs live in sewage." I cannot comment on that one as I never heard him say it or in what context. "he defends money in politics, " He does so as long as there is no quid pro quo. Someone donating money to a politician during their campaign is no different than someone like Kyle dedicating their entire show to a party and/or candidate. People have different means so supporting a candidate. Some go door to door, some post signs in their yards, some rally, some have a Youtube channel supporting the candidate, and some donate money. " he's against gay marriage," So? Marriage is not a right. There are arguments to be made on why is government involved in marriage to begin with? Just because he have a different belief does not make him wrong. Why do you support gay marriage? Why do you support the government being involved with marriage? You saying he is against gay marriage must mean he is wrong, but you have not explained why. So that is not an argument. "he whines nonstop about transgenders in bathrooms" I have not heard him whine about it in while. But it does bring up the point on why should we cater to a minute set of people? So minus the Arab one, which is simply because I have not heard him say it or in what context, you still haven't provided me with any examples. Again, saying "he's against gay marriage" is not an argument in how he is wrong. Why does that make him in the wrong? What has he said about gay marriage that makes him wrong? I am against Crossfit, does that make me wrong? Or is it simply a disagreement on work out preferences? You have to do better than that.
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  7. Red Hood, the DOI separated us from the British. The Constitution is the law of the land which is not based on religion. But the founding of this country, in terms of morality and freedom (especially since many came for religion freedom to begin with) is arguably based on Christian ideas.
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  8. "When did Shapiro mention the Constitution? He was talking about our values." Exactly. There is a difference between our laws and our values. Our values are, arguably, based on Christianity, but not our laws.
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  9. "DoI doesn't mention god or christianity. It says "creator" which does NOT equal yahweh." http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
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  10. "And? I've seen the DoI before." You said this "DoI doesn't mention god or christianity." It clearly mentions God.
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  11. AZOffRoadster, MLK plagiarized his PhD thesis. Does that make him irrelevant? The show Stranger Things copied a lot from other shows. I guess we should be against that. Fact is nothing is original.
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  12. Pretty much. This is the only point I can agree with on Kyle here when he criticizes Shapiro. Everything else is Kyle just being jealous that he cannot attract an audience so he calls Shapiro stupid.
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  13. Many came to this country for religious freedom. There is a point there to a degree. Our laws and Constitution were not based on religion. But the idea of practicing religion freely, especially christianity, is a reason why many came here. Also, read the Declaration of Independence. They do mention God there. Reading the comments there are some other points here to supports that Shapiro is correct.
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  14. The laws were not written based on religion, I can agree to that. But it is arguable that this country was based on Christianity and that being the idea of freedoms, and people having their "god given" rights.
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  15. There is a difference between the laws in this country and the motivation in creating this country to begin with.
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  16. "Time Lord The Declaration of Independence was written before America became a nation and is not a legal document." Our laws are not based on any religion, but it is arguable that the morals of this country was.
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  17. He has great points and he is respectful. He doesn't act like Kyle and curses every third word and calls people stupid. He also does a great job in trolling the radical left who are insane these days. Him and Matt Christiansen are two of my favorites in how they react to the radical left.
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  18. I imagine he has read these materials as he does have a law degree. It is arguable that the ideas and morals of this country are based on Christian ideas and that being acceptance, freedom, liberty, etc. Our laws are not based on any religion and that, arguably, ties into Christian ideas of accepting others and freedom. There is a difference in what our laws say and what the morality of them are based off of. I see the argument in wanting to deny any laws that establishes are religion because based on the Christian belief one should accept others and be free from religion.
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  19. When has Kyle ever refuted what Shapiro said? I can give Kyle this time right here, but please give me more examples? I have not seen Kyle refute anything Shapiro says. It is funny how so many people rip on Shapiro but when I challenge them to point out where Shapiro is wrong they cannot accept that.
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  20. Joel Costa, I saw the Cenk vs Shapiro debate. Cenk called the audience stupid and told them to "Google it" and Shapiro brought logic to the discussion.
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  21. Neither is Privacy Education Healthcare and so one. There are many words not in the Constitution.
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  22. I only saw one video of someone "debunking" Shapiro on net neutrality and I felt it was poor. To start, I will admit I know very little about net neutrality and those videos do nothing to get me up to speed on the issue (neither does Ben but this is not to support Ben but to rip on those who attempt to debunk him). The video I saw made an asinine comparison of the electric company refusing to power Samsung TVs, or the water company charging you more to brush your teeth. That is not how those things work. I get electricity and I can use it how I seem fit. Again, not defending Ben here, just saying it was a bad attempt in debunking him.
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  23. "Ben made the same water pipe comparison" Again, if you read my comment it was not in defense of Shapiro but to show how bad people are at debunking him. "but heed my warning, Ben’s arguments were just as ignorant and wrong." How so? And I am being honest here. Net Neutrality I know little about as I have not taken the time to learn about it. For me I typically default away from people like Kyle on this issue considering how wrong he is. But my opinion is not strong as very few actually explain it well making me question how much they really know. It isn't that I am dumb. I am a PhD candidate in physical chemistry. It is that I feel people cannot explain it.
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  24. " It was just an analogy to how unjust it would be for things to be that way" It is a poor analogy as water is water. Electricity is electricity. If the electricity I get from the electric company does not power my TV that is a function of my TV, not the electricity I receive. That's basic physics.
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  25. "Are you serious? " Yes. I am serious. I read so many comments by people saying Shapiro is wrong but they never give examples. " Basically his entire ideology is childish and wrong." How? Please explain. Anyone can make that claim. Here "Kyle's entire ideology is childish and wrong". There, I made it. So that makes it correct? I gave no reasoning. "If you watch the video you decided to post your triggered comments on, this is a clear example " I am not triggered. I am challenging people making claims. I watched this video. I do agree with Kyle in this case and I can give him this one. I never said Shapiro was correct all the time. I never said Shapiro was the best or is never wrong. What I am saying is that many people claim Shapiro is constantly wrong but never point out where and why. One time is not him being wrong often. Tom Brady throws interceptions occasionally, does that make him a bad QB? "America was not founded on judeo-christian values. That is objectively wrong" Great, again, this is one case. Can you name others? I can for Kyle. Here 1. Kyle said that in other countries people do not die due to lack of healthcare access which is factually incorrect an I can list peer reviewed sources on that 2. Kyle did a video on the new gun law on NY about domestic abusers cannot own them by the new law which is a law already 3. Kyle points to polls such as 2/3 of Americans want universal healthcare as if they are true even though 80% of voters in Colorado said no and also how over 80% of people want expanded background checks on guns but when put up to a vote in Maine and NV it failed in Maine and passed in NV by only 0.45%. 4. Kyle did a video about an abortion law and how it creates protocol on how to dispose of the waste but Kyle said it was a law that requires rapist's permission before someone can have an abortion. That is not true at all as that was on written anywhere in that law 5. Kyle said the shooter in CA who shot at an Elementary school legally possessed his guns which is not true I can go on but that is to name a few. You have one case for Shapiro. I came up with 5 for Kyle on the top of my head.
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  26. JakeW422, also, there is evidence this country was founded on Christian principles. Not the laws but the idea of morality. Read the Declaration of Independence http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/ There is the mention of God.
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  27. " those are the most pedantic examples i ever seen. " How so? Please explain. " Also you just denied a national poll by bringing up a percentage of one state" A state that leans left, with over 2 million voters, that voted for Bernie Sanders. 80% is large if 2/3 actually do support universal healthcare according to a poll of around 1000 people. 60% saying yes in a poll and 80% saying no in voting is a large margin.
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  28. "To him, Ben Shapiro can't be wrong" Actually I disagree with Shapiro on some issues and points he makes. I can give examples of how. I want others who are so animate in saying he is wrong to give me examples and reasoning. So far people have not accepted the challenge, or have tried and failed.
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  29. Dude McDude, it is a commodity as someone has to provide it. It doesn't just exist. Someone has to provide it and they will charge money. That is a basic fact that even other countries understand which is why they have high taxes
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  30. " you think the availability to heal yourself in a possibly life threatening situation is the same as deciding whether or not you're gonna buy a new fuckin couch? " There are two points to that. 1. As I said, healthcare is a commodity. Someone has to provide it. If you need help in terms of healthcare what do you do? You see a doctor. It just doesn't magically appear. 2. Now you are talking about the in-elasticity of demand in healthcare which is another conversation in itself. That leads to why we have insurance companies and maybe government should be a source for healthcare. But that is separate from healthcare being a commodity. You have to realize this basic fact, healthcare, like furniture, is a commodity as in someone has to provide it. Even if you need it now and are desperate someone still has to provide it and that person will be compensated. The resources they use will cost money as well. How that is paid off is another issue. But it is provided by someone.
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  31. Bill Anderson, I provide plenty of facts.
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  32. " why do the rest of the modern countries pay less overall for better outcomes?" It is really debatable if they have better outcomes. They have longer wait times and many people die on those waiting lists. Even if they do not die they become worse off the longer they wait. I will link you a book later where two professors did statistical analysis and found that countries with universal healthcare systems are not receiving better outcomes. As for cost there are other factors as well. We do lead the world in research and innovation in healthcare and many people do decide to take advance treatment and testing as a precaution which adds to expenses. We do offer more MRIs compared to other countries for example. "If what you're saying is true, surely the United States should be #1 in healthcare because we pay the most. " Depends on how you look at it. If you remove car accidents and murders, things not strongly connected to healthcare, the US is number 1 in life expectancy. " #1 is people don't die from lack of furniture. " Never made that claim either. "#2 is that's not how marketing/demand works in an economy." Which I 100% agree which is another discussion in itself. We are still at stage one though, and that is realizing that healthcare is a commodity as in someone has to provide it. Many people feel that if the government offers healthcare it will just exist. Many people call it a right. That is not how it works. Someone has to provide it and depending on the treatment it will cost more. If it is a routine checkup any doctor can do it will be cheap, much like my disc chairs are very cheap as they are easy to make. But if it is something more complex such as some sort of brain surgery, it will be more expensive like a massaging chair. We are not talking about the elasticity of demand here. We are talking about the basic fact that someone has to provide healthcare and in some cases it will be more expensive if the treatment is rare and complex. In other countries they pay with longer wait times, here we pay with more money. If you can accept the basic fact that healthcare, like furniture, is a commodity in that someone has to provide it. And certain treatments, like furniture, are more expensive because of how complex they are, then we can move on to how healthcare can be paid for. But for now you need to realize that healthcare will cost you something either in money or in time.
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  33. Dude McDude, here is that book https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf Now if you want to have a conversation about how healthcare should be funded we can, but that is another discussion in itself. The fact is that healthcare, like furniture, is a commodity and thus someone has to provide it. Considering how nothing is free (the first rule of economics) healthcare will cost something, either time, quality or money. We people understand that fact we can proceed on to the methods of how healthcare should be funded.
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  34. Shark Wave, I covered that "debunking" video. That person does no describe Net Neutrality well at all (neither does Shapiro, I can be fair here) and tried to compared the internet to water when they are physically separate things. When he said "fuck sake" I knew I was listening to a child at that point and could not take what he said seriously. Not saying what Shapiro said about Net Neutrality is correct, but for right now no one has been able to debunk him with a convincing argument.
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  35. Cole, Cenk supports Bernie Sanders who is really unamerican himself. " I also dont get why everyone was so weird about the google thing." Watch the Matt Christiansen's video on it. These issues are not that easy to Google. They are complex. Even at that you saying "Google It" opens the door to someone Googling the wrong things. I can google and find things on Fox News or from the DailyWire that will give counter opinions of what Cenk said. Is that what he wants? " so he was just saying if you want to know whose wrong look it up." Look what up? That is the point. I will link you Matt's video here but the reality is that these issues are complex. It isn't as simple as "Google it". It is a cop out by Cenk of him basically saying "you are wrong and I am right, even though I cannot explain why." It is the same as when people say "common sense" on issues that are debatable to begin with, so the conclusion is not "common sense". Cenk's purpose in that debate is to show his ideas are better which he failed at by telling people to "Google it" as he could not give a convincing argument himself.
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  36. Shark Wave, you like that "debunking" as you hate Ben Shapiro. I am being fair here. Listening to Ben Shapiro and that video I did not gain anything from either one. Neither side gave me a convincing argument for or against Net Neutrality. Since the other video did the asinine comparison of saying an electric company can decide not to power a Samsung TV, even though that is not how it works physically, and said "fuck sake" displaying a low level of maturity, I am more likely to side with Shapiro when it comes down to those two sources alone. But again, I can admit Shapiro gave a poor argument as well. Look past your bias here and be honest. That video was not well done.
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  37. Hal Jordan, the morals of this country are arguably Christian based. There is a reason why "God" is mentioned in the DOI. Our laws are not based on religion because one idea of this country is to have freedom of religion as many came here for religious freedom. But it is arguable that our morals are based on Christianity.
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