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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Lindsey Graham: Use School Money For The Wall" video.
Indoctrination through public education creates democrats
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Public education is, arguably, indoctrination. What the GOP wants is for states to run K-12 education where over 90% of money comes locally to begin with.
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@J Mac , college is a personal investment you make as an adult. That is the real value of college. Most people can sit in class, take notes, do homework, and get the grades to pass. They do that in high school. The value in college is that it shows to employers you are willing to invest in your life to pursue a long term goal. Making college "tuition free" removes that value of college.
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@J Mac , I did. College is an investment you make as adult. The problem is that too many people feel college is an extension to high school. It isn't. In high school you spend 35 hours a week in class, in college you spend 15 hours a week in class. In high school teachers cater to you and hold your hand, in college it is up to you to find a way to get the work done. That means seeking tutors, study groups, etc. In college you have to manage a budget and a schedule that includes work. In high school your schedule is set, 8-3. The value of college comes from the fact that it is an investment you make as an adult. If you make college tuition free than what is the value of college? Nothing. Also, I never said "employers look at your college debt to see your invested in your future" Many people don't go into debt to finish college. Some do, but that is the investment. With college you show to employers that you are willing to invest time and money to accomplish a long term goal. It shows to employers you are willing to put forth the effort to better yourself. If you make college "tuition free" than where is the effort?
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@SquallAKALeon , bud, I have two degrees and I am pursuing a PhD. I know college very well. I did not master my field as an undergrad, I mastered it as a grad student by teaching other undergrads and working in the field. So it is a fact. Have you ever attended college? Be honest in that answer. At this point I don't think you have. As for sacrificing passion to pay bills, welcome to life. I would love to sit around all day writing books, reading and drinking whiskey. I can't, so I found a field I enjoy to pay the bills. By your standard I should live well simply reading books and drinking whiskey. If International students have money why do they choose the US? Why not other countries if other countries have better schools?
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@AmineSamus , over 90% of education funding is state and local. Any removal of federal funds won't do any harm. Also, i bet i can give you a lot of reality that counters leftists' views.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , most federal funding is to Title I schools that have worse results to being with. So even with extra money they still don't do well.
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@joejoejoe532 , really? From what I have seen leftists needs better education. Kyle just did a video on Amazon saying that NYC was going to give Amazon $3 billion. He also showed a clip of AOC saying that NYC can use that $3 billion to invest in schools. The reality is that they were not giving Amazon money, they were giving them a discount. For example, if Amazon was going to pay $5 billion in taxes they would instead pay $2 billion. NYC did not have $3 billion they were giving away, they were lowering the tax rates for Amazon. If that is the "reality" you live in than you can have it.
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@Babygirlly555 when is Kyle going to cover the Jussie situation?
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@AmineSamus , yes, tax credits, not tax money. Do you know the difference? A tax credit is where say if Amazon was going to pay $5 billion in taxes they would instead pay $2 billion. It isn't NYC giving Amazon money, it is giving them a discount. A little clue for you, Kyle is an economic illiterate.
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@laserramon9926 , you have issues bud.
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@Babygirlly555 , true. Kyle was all about talking about facts and fact checking but when his side gets facts wrong he is quiet.
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@AmineSamus , uh, the tax credits are a discount. With Amazon there they would have still receive taxes from them, just below the listed rate. But as is NYC is receiving zero. So who is going to make up for the zero dollars now? As for the money value you listed I will have to look closer. You claim Kyle gave a link, I don't see it. Maybe you can provide it. As for driving up housing cost guess what that does? I drives up property taxes for schools. I thought leftists supported giving more money to education? Really, stop listening to Kyle on economic issues, he has no clue what he is talking about. But tell me, who is going to make up for the lost tax dollars now that Amazon is gone?
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@Krasshirsch , that is, by far and away, the most asinine statement ever. I bet you I can find a lot of things that will counter how leftists' feel.
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@carterblunt4192 , true. There are two sides to this. Public education can be great as it allows people opportunity to learn and think critically if public education is done right. However, public education can also be indoctrination as they are teaching young, impressible minds what is real and what isn't. There are many examples of this happening even in the US.
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@AmineSamus , again, you don't know what tax credits are. NYC is not giving them money, they are giving them a discount on taxes. https://www.thebalance.com/refundable-tax-credits-3193462 https://www.nycedc.com/program/relocation-and-employment-assistance-program In order to take advantage of those tax credits Amazon will have to......wait for it......pay taxes to begin with. It isn't that if NYC had the money sitting there and they were going to give it to Amazon. What NYC was going to do was give them a discount on the taxes they would pay. To give a simple example, say Amazon would have to pay $10 billion in taxes if they did business in NYC. But NYC gave them the $1 billion in REAP (keeping it simply we will look at one of the tax credits). When they file for taxes and it has them paying $10 billion, they will get $1 billion in return so they only have to pay $9 billion in the end. That means throughout the year while they are paying taxes they will pay $10 billion. When they file for taxes NYC will give them back $1 billion of it. That is what a refundable tax credit is. Amazon will give NYC the money first and than NYC will give a portion of it back. Right now NYC has zero dollars with this deal with Amazon. They have not given Amazon money as they did not have money for this deal. Now, after this, NYC still has zero dollars. Kyle is completely wrong on this. NYC was not giving money to Amazon, they were giving them tax credits which is essentially a discount. It is similar to you where you pay taxes all year and after you file if you have certain write offs you get a refund. You pay the taxes first and then get the money back. And there is great reason to ask for discounts like this. These are not subsidizes. Please study more economics.
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@Krasshirsch , "happiness" is subjective.
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@iron75mg , education does not have to be indoctrination, I am saying it can be.
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@shhmypupissleepin3015 , because college is an investment you make as an adult. If you feel you need government to educate you after a K-12 education you are beyond help.
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@J Mac , college is an investment you make as adult. Mostly it is on you to learn. You clearly have no clue what college is about
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@josh-oo , most of the subjects you learn in college you can learn on your own. After a K-12 education you should be able to have that skill. The point of college is that you are investing in yourself to better yourself and accomplish a long term goal. If you want to learn biology, economics, literature, etc., than go to the library and start reading. You have no clue what employers look for. They look for people who are motivated and want to better themselves. That is a major qualification. It is clear you have never pursued a high level job nor hired people.
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@SquallAKALeon , you don't go to college to master a field unless you go to graduate school which is why it is called a "Masters degree". College is about you investing in a long term goal. Sure, you may get a degree and thus have more experience in one field, but something like 27% of people get a job in their actual degree. So they don't master a skill. If you want to do that than go to a trade school or go to graduate school where in graduate school typically the school pays for your studies. The US has, arguably, the best university system in the world. There is a reason why we have the most international students. Other nations track their students that prevents people from attending college if the government feels they are not able. In the US we allow almost anyone to attend, so you have to factor that in. You saying "other nations do it" is ignoring many factors. I suggest you go to college and challenge yourself.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , really? Public education is arguably indoctrination. N. Korea has public education, is that not indoctrination?
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@anotherrandomer , in S. Korea their public schools are not any better than ours. What they do is over 80% of the population sends their kids to after school program that are private where they study. Even at that there are problems such as a lot of pressure to succeed which is why they have high suicide rates. I work with many people from S. Korea and they tell me it isn't as great as what the results say. College is an investment, that is why the US university system is so strong. People invest their time and money to better themselves. I don't mind the better facilities at college. At my university having a nice gym, with nice labs, and nice classrooms make my college experience better. Compare that to public schools who have essentially nothing.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 ,and so is Denmark and Finland, but leftists love to point there.
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@vltruan , really? If the US system is bad why do we have the most international students? Also, the GI bill was for people who served for the US, it wasn't just given to some random people. Also, Germany tracks their people denying students access if the government feels they are not capable. In the US we allow almost everyone to attend. Higher education is an investment you make as an adult, that is where the value lies. Tell me, did you go to college? And after college what happened to you?
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@vltruan , how is my argument narrow minded and laughable? If after a K-12 education it is on you to better yourself. If you feel you need government to better yourself after a K-12 education than you are beyond help.
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@vltruan , also, tell me, with tuition free college how do you handle the NCAA?
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , I never said the US schools are indoctrination, I say it can be.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , the NCAA bases their divisions on scholarship limits. If you make college "tuition free" how do handle the NCAA? The fact you have not considered it makes any argument you have for "tuition free" college irrelevant.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , why what? On the NCAA? That is an elephant in the room when it comes to "tuition free college". If you support it than surely you have thought of how to handle that issue.
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A couple things. One, just because you can't solve the entire issue does not mean you should not try to slow it down. By your standard what we are doing now does not work, so might as well go for open borders. Two, that stat is deceptive. You are talking about situations where the illegal drugs were caught. Out of the illegal drugs that were caught most were from legal ports of entry. You can't obtain accurate stats on drugs you don't catch.
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