Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Vox's Carlos Maza v Steven Crowder | Adpocalypse 3.0 u0026 YouTube's New Crackdown" video.

He has more views and has debated many people. Also, he at least leaves his bubble unlike Kyle
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@Millbro82 so when a Bernie supporter shoots politicians should Bernie be blamed?
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Carlos is one of the bigger voices of Vox which has a large following. No different than all the videos the left makes about Shapiro.
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@daltonbedore8396 , the issue is that Steven is making a joke towards Carlos. Carlos is very open that he is gay as if it is relevant, so Steven makes fun of Carlos for it. Also, as a public figure you will be made fun of. If Carlos can't handle it than find a different career. This is an example of two things 1. Carlos isn't fit to work in the media and 2. Carlos can't attack Crowder with a rebuttal so he pushes to silence This make Carlos look bad.
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@CheesyChez421 he didn't destroy them. He was on a 5 minute segment that went no where. He did not do well on the Razorfist debate
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@CheesyChez421 in this case I can. I have many sources to go off of
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@CheesyChez421 Kyle is the on saying "not true"
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@CheesyChez421 , Kyle literally only has talking points. Saying "other nations do it" is not an argument. In the debate against Razorfist Razorfist said that people end up with more healthcare complications in single payer systems due to lower quality. Kyle's response was "not true". However, in New Zealand, you do have issues https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10411289 Or in Australia up to 7000 people die waiting for "elective" surgery which also includes neurosurgery and not just "chin surgery" as Kyle puts it. Kyle saying "that is not true" and saying that no one dies in other nations due to lack of care is a poor argument. That was around the 14 minute mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IARK379_-c Kyle said his point is true when it is, in fact, not. People have died in Canada waiting for "elective" heart surgery as well. So Razorfist was correct there, Kyle falls back on his talking points and nothing else. I have followed Kyle for a long time and I understand that all he has are the same handful of talking points that are easy to counter.
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@CheesyChez421 , Shapiro does not even know who Kyle is. Notice how Kyle talks about Ben but not the other way around? Also, I doubt Ben gave Kyle the cold shoulder. The Politicon situation was very fishy in that Kyle did not release much information. Reality is that very few know who Kyle is. He refuses to step out of echo chamber. And when Steven pushed to debate him Kyle refused himself.
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@JustMe-em7hl not really. I debate many of Kyle's fans and they end up running away after they name call me. Pick a topic, most I can do well on. The ones I can't I will admit I need to do research. But the ones I do well on are economics, healthcare and climate change. I do OK on social issues depending on which one.
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@CheesyChez421 , I guess you missed this part "The lengthy wait for surgery experienced by many participants represents a burden in terms of living with the unrelieved severe symptoms and poor health-related quality of life." There are also problems such as these, as listed in the paper "In our study some people were reluctant to take holidays, and some feared that if they turned down surgery because of person commitments or illness, or because they were away when contacted, they may drop to the bottom of the list. Again, people on waiting lists in England reported similar difficulties." So for Kyle to say that waiting lists exhibit no problems is completely false. They do, and they add stress and hardship to patients. As for "semi-elective", I have never heard of that. Why didn't Kyle bring it up? I have never seen "semi-elective" anywhere. You are making thins up. However, in Australia, they do have "elective surgeries" https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/509f8a18-73c9-416c-92a5-f5073201df46/15778.pdf.aspx?inline=true "The current national definition for elective care is ‘care that, in the opinion of the treating clinician, is necessary and admission for which can be delayed for at least 24 hours’ (METeOR identifier 476370). It is used to distinguish between ‘elective care’ and ‘emergency care’, for which admission is defined as being desirable within 24 hours. " On page 25 is when the list of "elective surgery" starts. So no, it isn't just "chin surgery". As for 7000 dying a year https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/hospitals/elective-surgery-waiting-times-2017-18/data Click on data, download the excel sheet, go to table 2.1. As for comparing with other nations, it is really difficult as many factors outside of healthcare influence the numbers. For example, two professors showed when you remove car accidents and murders the US is number 1 in life expectancy http://www.aei.org/publication/the-business-of-health/ The US is number 1 in obesity rates for OECD nations where obesity increases the chance of pre-mature births thus higher chance of infant mortality and a lower life expectancy. And having access to healthcare does not mean being in better health physically as shown in this paper https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321 And Stanford Prof. Scott Atlas in his book "In Excellent Health" argued that the US does have high quality of care. You see, Kyle has nothing but talking points. He rips on the US healthcare system as if it is inferior and says other nations are simply better and that there is no debate. Reality is there is. That is the problem with Kyle. And that is why I know I can easily handle him in a debate.
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@CheesyChez421 , the problem with Kyle is that all he has are a handful of talking points. I did not say Razorfist did well in that debate as he didn't do well in bringing up references. I don't blame him as finding sources to counter what the far left says is difficult as many times they are buried in Google searches. For example, on the issue of climate change it took forever for me to find the book "Why We Disagree About Climate Change" by prof. Mike Hulme where he has a moderate approach on the issue. Or the book "In Excellent Health" I found after taking an MBA course and that book was referenced in another book we had to read. But Kyle was not any better. All he had were talking points. Kyle pushes them and he makes the claim that arguments from the right are false and that there is no argument from the right. However, I just showed you there is and cited experts in doing so. That is a problem when Kyle completely dismisses the other side.
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@voltaire5427 , colleges are far leftists safe zones, that is their problem. Working in academics as I do I view colleges as a safe haven for far left elitists that don't want to be challenged. It is very sad considering how those people are supposed to be the intellectuals of society.
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@CheesyChez421 , you call me dumb when I am posting sources here bud. You are starting to act like Kyle did towards Razorfist. Only difference is that I have actual sources. I really do want to debate Kyle. I wish his fans would arrange that.
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This isn't harassment. Carlos can't handle criticism that all celebrities receive
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@CheesyChez421 Kyle is a wimp. I can destroy him in a debate. Also, Kyle openly refused to debate Crowder on asinine reasons
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@jeremiahbarnes6313 , I am open to calling Seder and plan on doing so in July. June is busy month and I need time to study Seder. His debate tactics, from what I have seen, are poor in that he just keeps avoiding the topic. When Peter Schiff debated Seder Schiff did not allow it and made Seder look bad. But I have to see what Seder says on the issue. I do know in his debate against Charlie Kirk he did not do well as he told the audience to "look it up". Also, Sam goes "uh, um, uh" way too much, I will get annoyed that way.
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@jeremiahbarnes6313 , I have to decide as I have to watch Seder more. Kyle would be easy as I know all of his talking points, especially on healthcare. Seder is a little more ambiguous. Plus, I get annoyed listening to him with the "uh, um, uh". Right now I am feeling just going general in how the far left has a major problem and starting with what he said in the debate against Kirk and telling the audience to Google it. That is the shallow level the left has drifted to in their arguments. Google what? I might start there and progress to other examples of how the far left has shallow arguments and refuses to have intellectual discussions on issues by shutting the other side down.
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@katien.2834 , what is wrong with debating college students? They are young, growing minds. Aren't you pushing to "educate" college students through free college? Steven is doing just that by challenging them, and he is doing it for free. Also, he is advertising himself which is why he has so many more views than Kyle. As for that one college kid, he brought up talking points by pointing to Norway and Denmark who aren't socialist nations. And that kid became triggered in the end. Also, I never said Crowder was perfect nor that I agree with everything he says. I am saying that what he does is much better than what Kyle does because at least he is willing to leave his studio and engage with others.
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@CheesyChez421 , as for the UK and Scandinavia, top rated how?
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@CheesyChez421 , Ann Coulter never heard of Kyle. And as Ann said, until Kyle writes some books or becomes more relevant, why should she debate him? I challenged Kyle to a debate via Twitter and he did not respond, why? He never challenges people. He can at least take calls.
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@katien.2834 , I love how people always talk about "facts". Both sides can present facts, but if they do so in a deceptive way that is a problem. What Crowder is doing is engaging in a conversation with people getting them to think. That is what I do here and that is how you grow. I used to be a far right winger and be the whole "pull yourself by your bootstraps" but after having conversations with many people, and engaging with society, I see the desire for government programs and I see legit arguments from the left. Education requires challenging yourself. Listen to Crowder's point of view. If you disagree do research and find out how he is wrong if not there than afterwards. Hiding in a bubble does not get you to grow.
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@David Ferguson , a lot of "comedians" lean left. Those on the right don't do well as the audience typically isn't geared to them.
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@CheesyChez421 , have you seen how many views Alex Jones have received before he was removed from Youtube? Now how many has Kyle received? Also, Jones had a career before his show and had guest on his show. That is how he became known. He marketed himself well. As for Kyle making that comment about not writing books, fine. But what else has he done? Crowder never wrote books but he goes out in public and makes appearances. Kyle doesn't. Crowder sells himself. It can be with a book, or it can be by making appearances. Coulter was talking about having a best seller. Kyle hasn't. Sure Crowder hasn't, but he has way more subs and views than Kyle. That is the point, what has Kyle done to where people will know who he is? Now what have I done? I am pursuing a PhD in physical chemistry. I have 5 peer reviewed papers and constantly get strong reviewed on my evaluations as an instructor. I have two other hobbies that help out my community and I help out in my local school district. I actually get out and engage in my community. The reality is that these things take hard work. Kyle does not seem to want to do that and then cries when people don't know who he is. As for talking points, what talking points have I laid out? If referencing books and papers to read are talking points than how would you approach a college class?
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@CheesyChez421 , uh, the paper I referenced also referenced England. Did you not read the quote I posted? Also, I never said that other surgeries are not getting done, they are. The issue is that single payer systems have many shortcomings as well, and the wait times are one of them. The lower quality is another as argued in that book "In Excellent Health". As for misrepresenting numbers your boy Kyle does that A LOT, and I can give many examples in how.
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@CheesyChez421 , semi elective is a legal definition? Care to show me. I literally posted you the definition form Australia and "semi elective" is not listed once.
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@CheesyChez421 , what do you mean? I know how proportions work. As for percentage it is very hard to tell. But when Kyle brings up the 45,000 deaths in the US that is a challenging number to obtain as well. Kyle brings that up and then claims that number is zero in other nations when it clearly isn't. So with that there are two major flaws with that 45,000 number 1. What do you have to compare it to? No other study of that kind was done for comparison. So you don't know if that number is high, low or the average. Compare it to this. I pay $800 a month in rent. Off of that alone make a conclusion on if I am getting a good deal or paying too much 2. It is hard to get accurate numbers like that. As Prof. Katherine Baicker said those 45,000 are poor to begin with and bad health is associated with being poor. Thus you don't know if they die due to lack of coverage or being in bad health to begin with. To expand, there are higher rates of obesity, smoking and type II diabetes with those in poverty, all self inflicted and all adds complications to health issues. Also, as written in the book "Being Mortal", people look towards modern medicine to live an extra 5 or 10 years but really will live another 5 or 10 months. So if those 45,000 receive care and live another 5 months in pain and using up valuable resources, is that a success? There is a lot to it that Kyle and his fan base fail to realize or try to understand. This is what makes watching Kyle so painful and why I want to debate him. He spreads a large amount of ignorance on complex issues but his fans claim he is intelligent.
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@CheesyChez421 , ten years is not much bud. Most healthcare studies are done years after the data is collected. How many books or studies have you read on healthcare?
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@doesnotcompute3174 , when you say that it shows that I am winning the argument. I am the one posting studies and books on these issues by experts.
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@ProfessuhLemon , they did not turn him down. In reality I doubt they were even contacted. Until I see actual proof of them being contacted I won't buy it. Also, why did he refuse to debate Steven Crowder?
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@senortigre0489 Steven challenged Kyle and Kyle refused
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@alfredgomez3128 , corporations will keep Youtube going. Vox is a corporation. This is why Youtube is, to a degree, catering to Vox.
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