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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Dr. Phil: Reopen The Economy Bc People Die In Swimming Pools Too!" video.

The point is that people die for many reasons and we do not shut down the economy. We are on the path of what is worse, the bad economy or the virus? Yes, people die because of the virus, but people are also going to suffer because of the bad economy. Just like people die in car accidents. What can make that number to be zero is by banning driving. Is that a solution?
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@brucecampbell6578 exactly. The death numbers are overstated. It is a problem that needs to stop.. More people are realizing this is not a big deal hints why Miami beaches were full.
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Prophet you have issues bud.
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@djonin91 the challenging part is that you can directly measure a death by the virus, even though they are open about inflating the numbers. Much harder to measure deaths from a bad economy.
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What is sad is that many local politicians are using this as an excuse to expand powers. The NJ while talking with Tucker Carlson said knowing the bill of rights is above his pay grade.
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@brucecampbell6578 true. But I feel more and more people are going to revolt and say screw it, and open the economy themselves. The NJ governor said understanding the bill of rights is above his pay grade. The people who attended a drive in religious services are suing the city. I feel eventually people are going to just go back to life themselves no matter what the government says. I, myself has been living my normal life minus going to the gym and eating at a restaurant.
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He has a great point. Why have millions suffer so a few thousand can live? We make these decisions every day, we just don't know about it.
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@Hieiman I do. How many are going to suffer because of the bad economy? People are losing their businesses, they have stress, depression, etc. Also, evidence is coming out that the virus is not that deadly to begin with. And with warmer weather it is even less deadly. This could be a reason why colder states in the New England area are getting hit the hardest where warmer states aren't.
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@RdeSuiza "Sending people back to work will heavily increase the amount of infected people and deaths" Based on what? Evidence is out there suggesting it is not that deadly.
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@RoderickEtheria exactly. Just like people need to run their businesses and other people need to work. So we need to open the economy back up.
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Prophet no, its you. That is not even my area code. "He responds in the comments section when Sam debates right wingers," Actually I don't. "Now he's more just leave it as it is with some minor reforms." I have always supported minor reforms in healthcare. Do you even read my comments? If you did you would know that is not me.
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@RoderickEtheria it is on the decline. Also, a lot of evidence suggests the virus is not that deadly and evidence exist that the deaths are being overstated. My point on comparing to driving is that people die in traffic accidents but we do not ban driving because it will harm people and be worse than the 40,000 deaths. The same is with this virus. Shutting down the economy can reduce deaths, but more people are going to be harmed because of the bad economy and losing their small businesses.
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There have been studies trying to quantify unemployment to deaths which is difficult. But studies exist suggesting that being unemployed leads to worse health and early death. The question is how much? Difficult to tell, but it exist.
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@WhiteNoize01 I agree. He has a political science degree but he talks about economics and science a lot. He is clearly not an expert.
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@djonin91 exactly.
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@J4535-b9p you did not. You completely ignore the economics of this issue. Again, what is worse, the virus or a bad economy? That is the bottom line. You can talk about healthcare all you want but you have proven time and time again you do not understand culture, statistics and economics. That makes you myopic and you cannot see beyond healthcare. I am way more well rounded and thus see this issue from more angles.
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K Rr good luck dealing with this guy. He seems to know a lot about healthcare but he has a big government mentality and thus, this virus situation is his wet dream. He enjoys the fact that people's rights are being taken away. And for supposedly training to be a doctor he is way too emotional. I fee bad for his future patients as many are going to die under his watch due to his emotions.
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@mikej8951 the big government mentality is occurring now. We are letting government take away our rights. People are being cited for religious gathering. You have a skateboard park being filled with sand which is wasting tax payers' dollars. You have people who are being denied access to their second home. Government officials are using this virus as an excuse to grow in power. That is a problem. We have the governor of NJ saying that understanding the Bill of Rights is above his pay grade. That is a problem.
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@J4535-b9p punch and run I see. Pathetic.
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@J4535-b9p read the Science article entitled "Antibody surveys suggesting vast undercount of coronavirus infections may be unreliable" Where research from a German researcher and from USC suggests the virus is less than a percent deadly. Now it is preliminary but so is the whole virus to begin with. So yes, there is evidence to suggest the virus is not that deadly. And you say I am spreading misinformation?
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There is a point there. Many government officials are using this as an excuse to imprison people. People doing a drive in religious service were fined which violates the 1st amendment. The NJ governor said knowing the bill of rights is outside of his pay grade.
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It is an argument.
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@Greendalewitch they have the right to protest. What is going to be worse, the virus or the bad economy? Also, more information is coming out that the virus is not as deadly as people thought. And that warmer weather will alleviate the spread. The last part has evidence to it that in that the states getting hit the hardest in deaths per million are colder states like New England states.
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He isn't wrong. At some point we have to make the decision on what is worse, the virus or the bad economy? What is going to cause more harm? Experts are talking about this. We discussed the same thing in my economics course this semester.
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@art-of-techno or the fact they are more of a feminine and collective nation compared to Hofstede cultural dimension. Also, it is questionable if the virus is really that deadly. And using a unique crisis to push for more government is highly dangerous. That is one thing people are protesting. In Michigan they cannot go to their second home and other states is banning religious gatherings.
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Exactly. Most who are dying are old or sick to begin with. 91% who died are 55 and older.
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The point is that what is going to cause more harm? The virus or the bad economy? We can make traffic accidents to be zero if we ban driving, is that a solution? That is basically what we are doing now. We are trying to save a few lives by shutting down the economy which will cause more problems.
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@common_undead it doesn't matter if his numbers are wrong. Just looking at traffic accidents, he is correct in that around 40,000 die a year from them. We can make that number to be zero if we ban driving. The whole point is that we make choices that places our lives in danger every single day. Simply by leaving your home you are placing yourself at risk of death. Thus we do not shut down the economy. With the virus there is evidence that it is not that deadly. 91% who are dying are 55 and older and others have other health complications. In many cases coronavirus was one of many issues causing death. Thus it contributed to the death. So the 40,000 deaths is an overstatement. As for grandma dying, a little secret to you, death is a part of life. I am sorry but an 80 year old person dying is not worth locking us down and having the economy go under. The harsh reality in life is that not every life is worth the same. As for warmer weather, read the Livescience article entitled "Could the summer bring an end to COVID-19?"
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@delano3754 yes, but people still die. We can make it zero if we ban driving. That is the point. The virus is going to kill people, so will the bad economy. We can take pre-cautions as well with the virus such as doing what we should have been doing to begin with like washing our hands.
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@anticorncob6 the number of deaths, as is, is being overstated. Hospitals receive extra money if they list a death as a COVID-19 death. Thus, the virus could be the 3rd or 4th reason a person died but it is listed as a virus. In NY around 30 percent of deaths were not even tested. They just assumed. So it is very questionable if the virus is that deadly to begin with. Also add that 91% of deaths are 55 and older. Basically unless you are very sick or old you are fine.
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@anticorncob6 it wasn't me. The guy said taxation is theft when I never said taxation is theft. And I am a moderate.
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@common_undead there will still be a lot of consumption, and I do not see changes because of the virus. Look at Miami beach now, it is full of people when it opened. Many small businesses now are going to close down if we keep doing this. And there is a lot of evidence to suggest that this virus is not that deadly. And officials are open about overstating the deaths. But people will go out and buy more. Don't you see the protests? We are safe to go outside. Most who are dying are either sick to begin with or old. 91% who die are 55 and older. Those people are at high risk of death to begin with. People like you cannot accept reality that death is a part of life. You want to have millions suffer just so some old people won't die from the virus even though they are going to die soon anyway. That is a problem you need to fix.
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@anticorncob6 yes.
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Prophet it isn't me. At this rate you have to make things up to try to get ahead.
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@jankjaws9815 that wasn't me.
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@delano3754 except there are indications that it is not that deadly. I am not suggesting we completely reopen, but we can start. Even when we do there will be people who still wear masks, who won't interact with society, or are unemployed and will penny pinch. Bars and restaurants will be fairly empty. Other institutions can take actions. For example, universities can be open but all classes this summer can be online. But we need to start opening.
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@anticorncob6 "You think global warming isn't a real issue," I feel it is an issue. I am not buying the fear mongering from the far left, neither are scientists like Myles Allen and Mike Hulme. I am all for looking into the issue, I just understand there is a lot of doubt still. I have stated that many times and explained why in how little we know. "and oppose environmental protection, you support deregulation and tax cuts (including free market healthcare)" I support regulations at the local level. And taxes I support a federal flat tax with a consumption tax and let the states set up their own tax laws they seem fit. With healthcare I explained how I support a free market system with states and local communities filling in the gaps with either charities or a public option. All of that is a moderate approach. "The total number of deaths per week in NYC has skyrocketed during COVID-19. So clearly it's killing a lot of people." They are overstated. Around 30% were assumed to be corona even though there are no testings. If you had corona and three other health complications where corona is essentially the fourth reason why you die that is considered a corona death. The deaths are overstated.
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@akmal94ibrahim or young, healthy people can just stay home. You do not have to go to the hospital. Also, a bad economy means deaths as well.
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@pinkharmonica1312 no businesses means no jobs.
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Prophet see, that is you. You are trying to bait me into calling Sam "uh, um uh" Seder. You do know Sam is a racist?
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@delano3754 you also have to consider that there are studies suggesting that early death has come due to unemployment.
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@J4535-b9p are you going to punch and run? The fact is this. We are down the path of what will cause more harm, the virus or the economy. There is plenty of evidence suggesting that the virus is not that deadly. And there is evidence that unemployment does lead to early death. You have proven time and time again that you do not understand economics. These are decisions we make every day in economics, it is called opportunity cost. Something has to give.
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@J4535-b9p "COVID-19 according to uptodate which compiles thousands to tens of thousands of the most up to date research for medical students and physicians. "The overall case fatality rate is estimated to be between two and three percent. While severe and fatal illness can occur in anyone, the risk rises dramatically with age and the presence of chronic illnesses, including cardiovascular disease, pulmonary disease, diabetes mellitus, kidney disease, and cancer" To put this in perspective, the overall death rate for influenza 0.1%. " German researcher Hendrick Streeck suggests that the virus is less deadly than initially thought. Also, the deaths are overstated. The CDC and NY even admitted that they are overstating deaths. In NY around 30% are the virus "deaths" are assumed with no testing. A lot of the deaths are mixed with other healthcare complications. So what you saying has plenty of evidence against it. But, as you always do, you will ignore the points I make. "J4535 J4535 2 minutes ago @whyamimrpink78 My god you continue to spread misinformation. For reference to everyone reading this, I am medical students and utter morons like Pink are truly the biggest scum and issues in the United States. With the virus there is evidence that it is not that deadly. 91% who are dying are 55 and older and others have other health complications https://www.uptodate.com/contents/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-questions-and-answers?search=covid%2019%20mortality%20rate&source=search_result&selectedTitle=3~150&usage_type=default&display_rank=3 COVID-19 according to uptodate which compiles thousands to tens of thousands of the most up to date research for medical students and physicians. "The overall case fatality rate is estimated to be between two and three percent. While severe and fatal illness can occur in anyone, the risk rises dramatically with age and the presence of chronic illnesses, including cardiovascular disease, pulmonary disease, diabetes mellitus, kidney disease, and cancer" To put this in perspective, the overall death rate for influenza 0.1%. This means it is around 20-30x increase in the death rate compared to the seasonal flu. Furthermore, the reason influenza isn't as problematic is because we currently have vaccinations for influenza and medication if you contract the flu yearly. We currently have neither for COVID-19 Furthermore the main issue with COVID-19 isn't the infection but the cascade that comes after it. The infection tends to lead to pneumonia and overall to acute respiratory distress syndrome. According to the latest peer review papers - Uptodate "For patients with COVID-19 who develop ARDS, the prognosis is poor with mortality ranging from 52 to 67 percent. The highest rates of death occur in those ≥64 years. (See 'Prognosis' above.)" Just looking at traffic accidents, he is correct in that around 40,000 die a year from them. We can make that number to be zero if we ban driving. Its amazing how someone this stupid posts so much on youtube. Do you enjoy making yourself feel like an idiot? The reason we don't ban driving is that viruses spread through crowds and if you infect a high rate of individuals, you can easily overwhelm the healthcare system. Car accidents occur over the length of a year and someone getting hit in no way affects another individual. You may become infected, be an asymptomatic carrier and infect multiple other individuals in a short span." Again, it comes down to the economics of it and opportunity cost. People die from being unemployed. People face high level of stress, depression and so on. So it comes down to what is worse, the bad economy or the virus? You keep missing that point. As with driving, what is worse, the 40,000 dying in traffic accidents or the economic issues that will arise from banning driving? Again, economics is not your strong point but this is an situation brought up in economic courses. You call me stupid when I a the one that actually understands the economics of the issue. "Based off of what? What evidence do you have that COVID-19 numbers are currently being over-reported? You don't even know the methods on how they test the virus,." Because in NY if you die with coronavirus they claim you die because of despite other health complications. The CDC does that. So yes, it is overstated. "I am going to say this again, you don't know anything about this. Sit down in the corner, keep your mouth shut, and leave it to us medical professionals." I know more than you. And again, the bottom line it comes down to what is worse, the virus or the bad economy? You admitted that economics is not your strong point. But the economics of it is this, something has to give. There will be a cost. Either we stay in lock down while millions become unemployed (we are at a recover 22 million filing for unemployment), people lose their small businesses, and people will be depressed and stress. Alcohol sales are up during this lock down. There is a reason why, people are stressed. You are completely ignoring the economics side of this and how people will suffer. South Dakota is open and going on as usual and has the third lowest deaths per million. Please do not talk about issues you know nothing about.
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@J4535-b9p But I get it. You praise big government. You love how government if violating people's rights and controlling them. What is going on right now is your wet dream. Congrats for showing your true colors.
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@J4535-b9p BTW, if you want to throw our credentials, I am a PhD student physical chemistry and an MBA student. I have way more experience than you and I am more diverse. That is why in all of your comments you just look at the issue through the lens of healthcare. I look at it not just in healthcare, but through science, economics, business, etc. I look at it in a much broader lens.
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@J4535-b9p you are very perturbed I see. Again, you are too emotional to be a doctor. I actually cited a German researcher you can read his work. And again, it is the economics of it. Being unemployed has lead to an early death. There is data to suggest that. As for this virus, there are not 1000s of peer reviewed papers on it as it is new. No way you can publish that many papers on this topic that is only around for a few months. You have no clue how long the peer reviewed process works. But again, you are ignoring the economics of it. If the economy being bad causes more problems we should reopen it and just take on this virus. So again, stop being emotional and just admit you do not understand economics. You just enjoy big government.
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@J4535-b9p and it goes beyond people in healthcare. This is beyond an issue of healthcare. There is the economics of it as well. But of course you will ignore that.
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@RoderickEtheria but there is evidence to suggest it is not that deadly. Also, the warmer weather is suggested to slow down the spread. But bottom line it comes down to this, what will do more harm, the virus or the bad economy? Alcohol sales are up for a reason, people are out of work and stress. At some point we have to accept the deaths from coronavirus to get the economy going again. That is why driving deaths were brought up. We do not ban driving because 40,000 die a year in traffic accidents. It is the price we pay to drive. Just like the deaths from coronavirus is the price we pay to have a strong economy. Also add how most of the deaths are in New England, especially NY and NJ, so why should the entire nation be shut down?
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@J4535-b9p again, bottom line, what will cause more harm? The virus or the bad economy? That is the issue. You are completely ignoring that as you admitted you do not understand economics. You are so fixated on healthcare and your desire for big government that you ignore everything else. I know you enjoy people losing their jobs and having to depend on the government more, but I support a strong economy and people being happy.
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@J4535-b9p as I can see you are punch and run as usual. Admit it, beyond healthcare you are very ignorant. That is why you cannot discuss the economics of these issues. You do not understand anything outside of your field.
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@J4535-b9p still too emotional I see. I feel bad for your future patients. A lot of people are going to die under your watch. Again, it comes down to the issue you do not understand, economics. How many are going to suffer and die because of the bad economy? Right now it seems that more are going to because of the virus. I also like how you cite the WHO who completely ignored the issue of Taiwan as they are corrupted by China. The fact that you cited the WHO removes all your credibility.
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@J4535-b9p how about you ask the WHO about Taiwan :)
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@J4535-b9p the more I hear from you the more I see why you want big government. You are going to be a failure as a doctor thus you want to be a government employee. You will never make it in the private sector due to your lack of knowledge and emotions. Thus you want to be a government employee and essentially live off of welfare. You are trusting the WHO who ran away when asked about Taiwan. Really, think about that.
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