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A few things 1. This is one cop, this does not represent the norm in terms of cops. Also consider the numerous police departments in our country. One cop in one police department does not represent other cops in other departments 2. The man, while crawling, reached back by his hip. You do not know what he is reaching for. 3. No one in this comment section was there in the court room listening to both sides of the argument. To add, because I know some crazies here are going to try to rip me apart. This looks like and example of bad policing to me. And this could be an example of someone slipping through our imperfect, but what I still feel is a great justice system all around. But again, I was not there, neither was anyone else in this comment section. Don't make knee jerk reactions based one on video, and don't call police officers bad based on one cop.
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Spikem59, his legs are cross to prevent any quick get away. Crawling to them was to get him away from the room because they did not know if there were others in the room.
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Yes. This is one cop from one department out of the thousands of police departments out there.
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Laszlo, exactly. This was a tragic event, but this is not the norm in how cops act.
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It isn't being an idiot to give opposing viewpoints in this case. Here are two things to consider 1. The man reached back, why? What he reaching for something? Say he reached for a gun, pulled it out and shot the cop? Then what? 2. You, myself, and no one else in this comment section was in the court room listening to the evidence, the arguments and the facts. To me, as a whole this does not look good. It looks like an example of a bad police officer and someone slipping through the cracks in our imperfect, but still great justice system. But again, I was not in the court room so I am not going to play armchair judge here.
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To add, people should not be targeting police officers based on this one cop from this one police department. There are thousands of interactions with police and citizens that occur daily. Things like this do not happen much. You can still trust the police. That is an issue I have in how people are ripping on cops based on this one cop's actions.
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RichOrElse, I am not pro police state. I question the police. But I am also pro justice system and I am pro considering all the facts and both sides of the argument. I don't jump to conclusions like everyone else.
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"because they didn’t know how many people were in the room and cops have been killed by shooting through walls" Great point. While tragic there are two sides to the story. People screaming bloody murder and complaining about the cops are zero experience in a situation like this. It is easy to sit behind a computer after hindsight and make comments. But at that time you can't assume things. You can't assume he was unarmed, or that there weren't others in the room, or that he was not putting on a show by crying.
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vonkruel, after some more research I agree, that is why they told him to come to them. As for the man being terrified, criminals can put on a show as well. However, with more details the guy giving orders was not the guy who did the shooting. That plays a role as well.
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ailouros24, he was in front of a open door. If there was someone in that room they could have shot the cops while they were cuffing him. There is a legit reason asking him to crawl
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ailouros24, one cop goes up to hold down the man. In doing so the moves in front of the doorway and someone in that room shoots him. You have to get the guy to move away from the doorway. And you have to keep the possibility high for a clean shot if needed.
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Trump has nothing to do with this. This is left to the state and local districts to handle. The federal government cannot handle every little situation as it does not have the man power, nor the authority to do so.
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The "fear for his life" part can be justified. They asked him to crawl to them because they did not know if there were others in the room.
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To add a couple more facts 1. The cop that shot him was not the one giving orders 2. They asked him to crawl to them because they did not clear the room yet, they did not know if someone was in there
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The man was in a doorway leading to another room. They wanted him to move away from the room as the cops did not know if there was someone else in the room. You can't just walk up to him and cuff him. Say if there was someone in the room with a high power rifle that could blow the cop away. What would be your reaction then?
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Ali Jordan, how many police shootings are there? This is one incident out of thousands of police interactions a day. What are you going to reform?
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I live in the US, never had to use a gun either except for target practice.
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waleuska, let me ask you, why did the cop ask him to crawl towards them? Because the cops did not know if there were others in the room. They did not walk there as someone could be in the room and shoot the cops through the wall. You don't know. The guy could have been lying and putting on an act by crying. Criminals have done this in the past. There are two sides to the story. Take off your blinders and think about these things. The situation could have ended way better, I agree. But there is a lot more to it than what you realize.
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waleuska, there are situations where cops have been ambushed. They take precautions to prevent that.
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Zidneya, different police departments have different rules. I do not know about this one, but that is a possibility.
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100% true. The man did not follow orders. What was he reaching for? Also, one incident does not make the norm. A Bernie Sanders supporter shot a republicans one day. So does that mean all Bernie supporters support murder?
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Stian Berg, the cops give the guy in the room their position that guy now has more information then the cops do. The cops do not know if there is a guy in the room, and if there were they do not know where. You remove one suspect and then tackle the other problem. If they approach that room with that guy there and shots are fired the cops staying back can't fire as they do not have a clean shot due to cops being in that area now. You try to avoid and old west style shootout.
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Ever seen Bowling for Columbine by Michael Moore? There is one scene where Moore shows a guy pull a ton of weapons out of his close you would not have seen were there. Now it was exaggerated, and chances are he would not have been able to walk. But I can hid my .38 snub nose very well and no one can tell.
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Kyle, and his viewers don't like to look at facts and the whole story. And when someone tries you get mature, intelligent comments like "go choke on the police state dick". They asked the man to crawl to them as there was an open door to a room and they did not know if there was someone in there or not. This is practice by police. Say there was someone in that room with a BAR. The cops walk up to the man to handcuff him and the man in the room blows the cops away, how would Kyle and his viewers act now? My guess they would not report on a story like that.
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RandomGuy7092, how liberal of you. When someone brings up legit counter points you wish for them to die.
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SmashStomp Inc, all tazering does is piss them off. Tazering does not always work. Maybe they should have, maybe not. But consider that tazering does not always work. Alton Sterling was tazed. " Furthermore, since when for a routine call of the possibility of a weapon a officer brings a full auto assault rifle/sub machine gun?" Was it routine? Also, people are high edge due to recent shootings like the one in Vegas. "At very least these assholes should be charged with negligent homicide for incompetence" Why? They did not come in with the intention to murder. The cop was fired. Sending him to jail is not going to bring this man back. His career as a police officer is done. Now he has to find a new job. What more do you want? Do you want us to have a public hanging? "Furthermore the guy was fucking drunk and terrified" Criminals can act. Also, drunks can be violent. "Since when does a cop bring a fucking automatic rifle to a call of suspicion of some one pointing a gun?" Again, consider the shootings we have had.
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gregory burczyk, they had him crawl to them because they did not know if there was someone else in the room.
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Spoiler alert, people on both sides will be idiots. Here are some counter points 1. The man reached for his waist, who knows what he is reaching for? 2. There were reports of a man with a gun in that room 3. The cop that shot him was not the cop giving the orders 4. The cops told him to crawl to him as they did not know if there were others in the room or not. Say there were, and the cops walked up to him to handcuff him and someone comes out with a BAR and blows the cops away, then what? The situation is more complex then what idiots are making it out to be
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"Aeon the guy was unarmed" And Seattle should have ran the ball. Hindsight is 20/20. You don't know they are unarmed at the time.
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Aeon, you bring up rational points, others haven't and just name called. No one is saying this was a good thing, but the guy did reach for something. Why was he going towards his waist? Play devil's advocate here. What if he did have a gun, and the cop just waited. And the guy pulled it out and killed the cop? Then what? What if he pulls it out, gets shot and the guns shoots off in another direction killing an innocent bystander?
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To add a couple more things 1. The cop that shot him was not the one giving orders 2. They asked him to crawl to them because the cops did not know if there were others in the room or not. Say there were and say they walk up to him to cuff and arrest him, and a guy with a BAR jumps out and blows the cops away, then what?
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"He could have just arrested him when his hands were up" You can't do that because he was by a doorway and someone can be in that room waiting to blow the cops away. These things happen. This isn't as cut and dry as you may think.
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"He was on his belly legs crossed hands laced over his head go cuff him." Not that simple. You can't walk up to him as he was by the doorway of the room he was at. Who knows who may be in there ready to blow the cops away.
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