Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Republicans Now 'Attacking' Dems For Supporting Medicare For All" video.

  1. Healthcare requires someone to provide it which means it should not be a right. Also, rights are things the government cannot take away without due process.
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  2. Frank Lance, plumbing isn't a right. You do not have a right to is, same with drinking water. Police services are also not rights. So you are correct. What's your point?
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  3. dane mathews, and that public defendant is being forced to serve you like people are forced to do jury duty. If you make healthcare a right than you have to force doctors to serve others. Also, you have to consider why these rights exist. These rights are there to give you power over the government. A trial by a jury of your peers means your peers, not the government, judges you. A public defendant means you have someone who understands law there to guide you. Right to free speech means you can criticize the government. Making healthcare a right gives power to government where they can control you. Sop there is that component as well.
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  4. darkJman77, you don't have a right to a fire department. Some places have private fire departments and 70% of fire fighters are volunteer.
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  5. IshtarNike, government can pay to provide it, but they cannot force others to provide it. If there is no one to provide healthcare than that's it. Same with K-12 education. If there isn't anyone to teach a course, say calculus, than a school won't offer it.
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  6. Rights in this country are things that government cannot take away without due process. Also, the rights protected by the Constitution are there to give people power over the government, or at least limit government. Right to free speech allows you to criticize the government without fear of imprisonment. Right to bear arms allows you to fight against tyranny Right from search and seizure protects your from government invading into your private life without just cause. And so on. If you make healthcare a "right" government has to provide it much like they have to provide a jury. If you are called for jury duty and refuse you go to jail. If healthcare is a right and if a doctor refuses to serve you than they can go to jail. That is why people say it causes slavery. That is why healthcare is not a right.
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  7. "And what the USA is doing now is more costly and less effective. " That is not true.
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  8. The Everyday Liberal Show, read the book "The Business of Health". When you run through the numbers the US is on par with the rest of the world in terms of outcomes. The cost is higher because we have better advanced care and more R&D. Also, we have many government regulations and a lot of government involvement that drives up the cost. I also love how you ask me to "prove" something when others have asked the same thing of you and you failed to deliver.
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  9. Overlord, to add, you can make healthcare a good/service that government provides by paying providers. But you cannot make it a right. It comes down to the language. If you make it a service that government pays for, like the fire department, the government cannot force anyone to work. With the fire department we have volunteers. You can also look at K-12 education. No one forces anyone to become a teacher. Education is not a right. Thus if a school does not have a calculus teacher they just don't offer it.
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  10. The Everyday Liberal Show, your argument is not convincing.
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  11. 80% in Colorado said no to universal healthcare. Every attempt to establish it in the US has failed. People voted in Trump and Republicans to repeal Obamacare and get government out of healthcare. The Republicans are right here. Kyle points to polls that are unreliable and continues to be very deceptive on the issue of healthcare.
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  12. Herb, you can easily google the 2016 election results in Colorado.
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  13. EnigmicIdentity, why? Care to explain.
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  14. EniigmicIdentiy, K-12 education is ran locally. It seems to be doing fine. At the state level you can micromanage the program better financially which saves money. There isn't a national healthcare system besides medicare and medicaid. So the state plan would be all on its own. As for bargaining power, if it were only the federal government you have a monopoly where drug companies would just raise prices. There is no competition. A state plan would still have competition. If you had only the federal government the federal government would have to serve the people so they would have no choice but to pay the high prices set by the drug companies. States can control citizenship. Have you ever change to become citizen in another state? You have to live there for a year, have a job, and a permanent place of residence. Meaning you have to be a taxpayer. If you are sick or poor and and more to that state you better get a job. If you are sick or poor the chances of you getting a job and affording a permanent place of residence is low. If you vacate to FL that is your risk. If I travel to another state and speed I broke their law and have to pay their fines, not the fines of my state. Maybe the state can cover you. That will be on them. If I commit murder in another state I am subjected to their laws, not the laws of the state I reside in.
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  15. EnigmicIdentity, healthcare is a domestic issue like education so on that point they are the same. Defense involves foreign relations so the federal government runs it. States cannot create their own defense as it is unconstitutional and the military cannot enforce domestic laws without consent of the state's governor. That is what created problems in Louisiana during Katrina. Bush wanted to send aid but the governor or Louisiana delayed in saying yes so aid was delayed. People who did not understand the law and the situation blamed Bush. So no, states cannot run military. Single payer might as well be single provider. You will be raising taxes where the middle class cannot afford to pay for both the higher taxes and a private option. They will settle for the public option at that point. So it becomes a monopoly. States can control residency. They cannot control US citizenship, but they can control residency. That is why universities have in state and out of state tuition. I had to deal with that when I was fighting in state tuition. I had to live there for a year, I had to have registered my car in the state I lived in, I needed a driver's license in that state, and a source of income and permanent address. You can work at one state and be a resident in another state. But you still need a permanent address and have your car registered in your state of residency. So yes, you need a home. It is state by state but look up the website FinAid.org and look up the article about in state tuition and state residency requirements. They have links for every state. Voting against a state plan is the same as those citizens did not want universal healthcare. 80% said no.
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  16. "We are already paying for the "right" to not cover every citizen and costing more than a medicare for all system would...so there-" That makes zero sense. Medicare for all would cost more.
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  17. Kenny, The Everyday Liberal Show is not going to give you an answer. He will just repeat the talking point of "medicare for all will cost less and is better". That is not true, or at best is a gross over simplification. To answer your question it would be paid for with higher taxes on all. Denmark taxes around 50% of their income through numerous taxes like a higher sales tax and payroll tax. And you will also have lower quality. Longer wait times, less personal relationship with doctors, less specialists and so on. There is no such thing as a free lunch. In other countries with universal healthcare they have less quality and higher tax rates. You will pay that way.
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  18. The Everyday Liberal Show, around 90% of students go to a public K-12 school. Why? Because only the rich elites can afford private.
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  19. Gage Acosta, the min. wage went to $7.25/hr. Also, when it did unemployment went up. To be fair, there is more to it than that, but that did happen.
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  20. Aidas, on waiting times people have died or become worse off due to them. In Canada people have died waiting for "elective" heart surgery. Reality is that Kyle has hardly scratched the surface on the issue of healthcare. If we were to place a grade level on it I would say he has a 2nd grade level of knowledge and thought on it. There is so much is fails to understand, or maybe he does but refuses to talk about.
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  21. Aidas, resources are limited, that is the harsh reality in healthcare. Saying that government can fund or run it and everyone will be covered is simply not true. In other nations everyone is not covered as there are a long wait times and lower quality of care on advanced techniques. People die or become worse off due to those shortcomings. The problem with saying that people die due to lack of access in the US is that one, that happens in other countries as well. And two, those numbers are hard to determine as those who die are poor and bad health is associated with poverty. There are higher rates of obesity, type II diabetes and smoking with the poor, all self inflicted. So the question becomes do they die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? That is why I say Kyle has a 2nd grade understanding of the topic. He brings up a couple of facts with no deep analysis of them, and then goes on this rant as if government has a magic wand and can create healthcare out of thin air.
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  22. Aidas, you have the right to pursue healthcare. You do not have a right to force others to serve you.
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  23. Red Firefly, they don't have to. They can always quit or not show up.
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  24. Zeldagigafan, defense spending is less than 4% of GDP and is Constitutional. Healthcare is 1/6 of our GDP.
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  25. john cornwell, the government has the power to force you to do jury duty or serve in the army.
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  26. Henry Gustav, you actually don't have a right to have services from the police.
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  27. Libertarian Socialist, rights are things the government cannot take away without due process. Government cannot take away life, liberty and happiness without due process.
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  28. The Majestic Spider, 70% of fire fighters are volunteer. Also, police and fire departments are ran and funded locally.
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  29. dane mathews, again, rights are things government cannot take away without due process. It does not guarantee you life but only protection from government from taking your life. If you want to go down that route than the government should be giving people guns due to the 2nd amendment.
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  30. The Majestic Spider, local laws differ in every area. Police are ran locally. A cop does not have to intervene if they feel it is unnecessary or unsafe.
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  31. Henry Gustav, you are misquoting the Constitution there. It is "promote the general welfare", not provide.
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  32. Kevin Ellington, government exists for numerous reasons. There is value in having government. Some reasons are for control, structure, protection, or even providing certain programs. However, government is still ran by people who can be corrupt and oppressive. So there is always a desire to control government so it remains the servants and not the masters. So when you ask "why do governments exist", that is a very vague question. They exist for many reasons, and those reasons differ depending on the economy, culture, history and so on of that area. So there is no one answer to that question. I support government, but we need to be able to control it. That is why it should remain as local as possible so people can control it and also establish the government that fits their needs and wants.
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  33. Kevin Ellington, watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQLBitV69Cc&t=188s Friedman discusses the idea of local government.
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  34. The Majestic Spider, read this source https://apps.usfa.fema.gov/registry/summary/ I was wrong, it is 71%.
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  35. john cornwell, you have the right to own a gun, the government does not give you one. For a lawyer and military, the government can force people do those jobs. Ever heard of the draft?
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  36. Democrats are losing because they are extreme left. They need to go back to the center.
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  37. Alex, if you have to force others to work to keep people alive that is arguably a bad thing. Also, there is an argument to be made that that keeping people alive for too long is bad. Read the book "Being Mortal". Over 80% of people die in a hospital these days.
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  38. Slawischstreiter, police, military, fire departments and roads are a drop in the bucket in terms of cost compared to healthcare. Also, police, roads and fire departments are locally ran and funded where 70% of fire fighters are volunteer.
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  39. Robert Aylor, we do not have enough resources to cover everyone, no country does. Also, the cost of medicine in other countries has been rising around the same rate.
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  40. C L, conservatives do plenty of volunteer work.
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  41. Joan, the overhead of Medicare is still high. Read the Forbes article entitled "The Myth of Medicare's Low Administrative Costs"
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  42. " As a result of this, as a result of the government doing far less in this system than other universal healthcare systems, we spend more on a per capita basis and as a percentage of our GDP." It is easily arguable that the government is driving up costs by doing too much. https://mises.org/wire/how-government-regulations-made-healthcare-so-expensive
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  43. "You have a right to pollute. Did you ask anyone breathing that pollution if it was okay for you to create a cost, then to push that cost off onto others?" You have the right to pursue healthcare, you have the right to pursuing buying a car and driving it. If you can't afford a car you can't drive and pollute. " If you provided healthcare to people, that would mean that they don't have to stay at a job they hate because of healthcare." Getting rid of the payroll tax could help that as well. The reason why businesses pay with healthcare insurance is because of the payroll tax. " Roughly 40,000 people a year wouldn't die because they lack access to healthcare. " Ok, and? 30,000 a year die in traffic accidents. That 40,000 a year is a small number overall and it is hard to say that they die just because of that. It is arguable that they die due to being in poor health to begin with where there are higher rates of obesity, type II diabetes and smoking with the poor, all self inflicted. "the US government can create money whenever it wants, which the MMT economists have shown" The Federal Reserve controls the monetary supply. Also, you can't just print money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkyBnaYCUhw " If the government spends more than it takes in, leaving a deficit, that simply means that there is more money in the private economy. " Which devalues the currency that causes deflation. " It can tax to manage inflation, " Uh, that isn't how it works.
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  44. Frank Lance, water is ran locally. The only right you have is that if government decides to provide water to people in a certain area they have to provide the same quality of water to those people. You don't have a right to "clean water". You have a right to be treated equal by the law via the 14th amendment. Police are ran locally. All freedom of speech means is that government cannot take it away from you without due process. Your rights are protected from government. You don't understand what rights are. Rights are things that government cannot take away without due process. You don't need a police force to protect free speech as freedom of speech is there to stop government from silencing you. Entitlements are different than rights. Government can take entitlements away if they so desire, they can't rights without due process.
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  45. Baron Saturday, people don't feel oppressed in the US either. There are private fire departments that have refused to put out fires in the past. 70% of fire fighters are volunteer. No one is forcing them to provide anything. Also, fire departments are a drop in the bucket in cost compared to healthcare. They are also ran and funded locally. I don't see doctors lining up to volunteer like fire fighters do anytime soon.
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  46. Frank Lance, cops don't always stop murders. That is why we have murders. There are many places cops refuse to go to because violent crime is so high. You also don't have a right to a cop's service. Read the court cases of "Town of Castle Rock v Gonzales" and "DeShaney v Winnebago County". You have a few things to learn about when it comes to law.
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  47. Frank Lance, there are many places that have private garbage men as well. In my hometown there were 4 companies whom you had to pay to have your trash picked up. And again, police, fire, and garbage are all ran and funded locally. You do not have a right to them. And their cost are a drop in the bucket compared to healthcare. You can't just say "well there are cops so we can have healthcare for all". It isn't that simple.
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