Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Michael Moore: Dems Need To Be A Party For Workers" video.

Moore owns 9 homes, Sanders owns 3. Talk about inequality.
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Kyle points to fake polls while his side is losing. 80% of voters in Colorado said no to universal healthcare. Really, when is he going to accept facts?
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Kyle lives in a bubble. He does not watch Shapiro and then lies in criticizing him.
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Moore rips on capitalism while getting rich off of it. Moore is obese but complains about the US healthcare system. Bernie complains about inequality but owns three homes. Pocahontas refuses to do a DNA test. These people are a part of the problem..
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"Why should I have to pay for food stamps for people that work in Walmart while the owners of Walmart are one of the richest families in the world? " Walmart cannot afford higher wages. Even at that they gave people jobs when they could not find a job somewhere else. At that point you are either supporting them having a job and being paid a wage you support, or not having a job at all. I do not like them receiving food stamps either for different reasons, but at least they have a job. That is much better than not having a job and receiving food stamps. It is not Walmart's fault they are on food stamps. All they did was give people a job.
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"Sorry dude but your claims are lies. Other countries have a minimum wage and taxes on corporations and those businesses are not going under." The US lowered the corporate tax rate because it had the highest in the world. Those European countries Bernie points to have lower corporate tax rates and no min. wage.
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"hiring is based on demand not wage levels" If the wage is too high they won't hire. People demand a home, but if they can't afford one they will live with roommates or their parents. Same with employees.
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Two trailer park girls go round the outside, Round the outside, round the outside
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Moore's stat is deceptive. To start, this nation is large. And with our growth people are moving more. Next, define "loved ones". How close are you going with this? My uncle died. I could not afford to attend his funeral in both money and taking time off of work. However, I did not consider him to be close.
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No one paid that 91% rate. Also, after WWII the rest of the world was rebuilding giving us a competitive edge.
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Braindead, you are correct. Those on the left don't even know what a gun is, let alone use one.
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It comes down to the fact that they have done nothing to help people. Running your mouth is talk. Actions speak louder. What has Moore done for the people of Flint? Why does Bernie own three home? Why didn't Bernie post his book online for free? He sold it in Walmart and made a million. These individuals have not ran businesses and created jobs. For as bad as the Walton family may be they at least gave people jobs. These individuals are selling you snake oil. They are fooling you and getting rich off of it. Talk is cheap. Anyone can talk. I want to see actions from these guys but it has never happened.
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To add, they want you to work. These individuals want you to do all the work while they sit there and talk. They cry about inequality but don't work at all. They want you to work and produce while they remain rich.
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"When was Moore a politician? " He is a political activist that leans left. Essentially the same as Kyle and Rush Limbaugh. They are involved in politics. "But what exactly do you want him do do? " He complains about other people struggling while owning 9 homes. Why does he own 9 homes? If he is a landlord and runs low income housing then fine. Or if he has those homes to be a place for some sort of healthcare, like therapy for example for the mentally ill, that is fine. Does he? I can't say for sure. But nothing I read shows that he actually does. That instead he owns 9 homes. I don't expect him to help out everyone, but with his wealth and income he can help out some. He can try to help the people of Flint. "Bernie is affluent through decades in politics which is a fairly high paying job. How does him selling a book take away from the policies he has been fighting for for decades? " Because again, it is all talk. What has he done to help people? You may say that he does by being a politician. Ok, then why did he wait until now to run for president? Why didn't he do it after Bush? I will agree that being a politician is a way to help out society, but most have done other work before that. What has Bernie done? He could not even pay his bills. That is an issue. He mooched off of others. "Where is your grief with way richer republican and democratic politicians then?" Because they are not demanding to take more of my money and saying they are doing it for my benefit. At the very least, with the fact that Bernie could not run his finances when he was my age, I am very suspicious. Bernie could not pay his bills. I do. But yet he feels that by raising my taxes he can benefit me? " But what people like Bernie is fighting for is systemic change where the the people are given more leverage and the rich guy can´t skew policies to his own advantage. " I agree, however that is because of big government in which Bernie wants to make bigger. Also, Bernie and Moore did not get rich with grit. Bernie became a politician when he could not find a job elsewhere. Moore sued the company he worked for and made movies of him walking around with a camera and profiting off of other people's struggle.
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Bernie Sanders is a prime example why we need term limits on politicians. If Bernie had to leave office and go back to the work force his attitude might be different.
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david crago, if Bernie opened up a business he would understand the issues business owners deal with. He doesn't. But even at that one can argue he can learn. However, he does not care to. A great example is during the debate on healthcare with Cruz a small business owner from TX asked him a question. His response was that she has to pay her employees healthcare if she has over 50. She asked how. He said he didn't know how but then went on this rant of other companies that do. She said that in her market they do not make much in profits. He admitted he does not know much about the hair salon business in Fort Worth. But he did not care to either. Compare this to Bill Clinton in 1994. When he was approached by Herman Cain on a similar issue Clinton at least had numbers to go off of and has a general idea of what issues businesses face. Bernie does not care to know that. He does not care to learn. Why? Because he does not care at all. All he cares about is winning elections and getting rich himself.
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"If Sanders brings in hundreds of young progressives in the future and America gets..Universal Healthcare..free/affordable college..living wages..gets a strong anti war movement going..then that out weights any business deals he could be involved with" That is fine if he understood the struggles business owners go through. That is fine if he understands the other side of the argument. He doesn't as he doesn't care. Many people have opposed him and he refuses to listen or understand their ideas. That business owner in TX is a great example. His laws will make her life harder. He does not care as long as he gets his ideas passed. As for Moore, watch the movie "Michael Moore Hates America". He takes advantage of other people's miseries and profits off it. Moore is an obese, rich guy who got rich off of a system he bashes. And as an obese individual he makes a movie ripping on the US healthcare system. He cannot even stay healthy himself.
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"And Sanders was right because when you don't have to pay towards your workers healthcare you can hire more people" He never said that. "but of course that lady was greedy she didn't offer healthcare to her workers and didn't want to pay more in taxes so as a country we could have a Universal type healthcare system. " She doens't have healthcare herself. But here is the root of the problem. You don't now her profit margins. You don't know how much money she actually has. You, like Bernie, have no desire to learn. All you see is someone with a business and thus feel the need to take from them. And you call her greedy? "Lets not forget there was a conservative from Norway that was at that debate that said they pay less in healthcare per person there than America and everybody is covered and the overall system worked better as well." Actually he was from Denmark and he never gave any stats or data to show that Denmark had a better system. All he gave was an anecdotal evidence of his mother. Bernie wants to model our healthcare system on Denmark but he could not give any numbers on it. ".if you recall Cruz said nothing in return" Actually he did. He gave waiting times on Denmark's system. Bernie had to ask the guy from Denmark for his anecdotal experience. No stats, just one guy's experience. "As for Sanders not knowing about business..look the guy is no idiot,I know you're politics are the complete opposite of his but you're selling him short in the brain department. Just because somebody didn't run a major company doesn't mean they can't have a decent understanding of business. " Then why didn't he have an actual conversation with that woman? Why did he make up some false analogy of another business in Fort Worth that possibly pays healthcare? He had no desire to learn about her profit margins, number of employees, how many are part time and full time, etc. All he saw, like you, is a business that needs to give away their money even if they can't afford it. "As for Moore if you don't like him of course you could say he is making money from peoples misery...myself I don't agree with him on everything but IMO he is showing and exposing the miseries and problems we are facing as a country and bringing this stuff to the forefront...which can be a positive thing." And he owns 9 homes. He has done nothing to help these people.
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Niklas, what is "equality of opportunity"? And how do you enforce it? Everyone has access to a K-12 education. Everyone has access to college loans. Say "equality of opportunity" is very vague.
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david crago, Colorado is a left leaning state that voted for Bernie in the primaries. 80% said no to universal healthcare. I find it disturbing that anyone would not criticize their healthcare system looking for something better. The US system does many things well, but there is always room for improvement. That is where I feel Bernie is disconnected with the people. He feels people in other countries enjoy their healthcare, and they may do. But to the degree that guy does is disturbing in some ways because he is not willing to look at the shortcomings of the system. Bernie will claim people in the US do not like their healthcare. To me he is mistaken. They like it, they just want improvements. I feel the same way. That is not saying we need universal healthcare. It is saying we can always do better. Major difference. As a whole I did not take what that guy said seriously on healthcare. As a moderate who leans right on many issues I will be the first to admit the US healthcare system has problems. But that stems from the fact that I am intelligent enough to know we can always do better. It is not saying I don't like the system or that it sucks.
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" Now did you ever wonder why these countries had this type of system for many..many..years and nobody ever ran against that system and tried to bring the kind of healthcare we have in America to those countries?? Because if they ran against that type of system...they would lose," When Obamacare was passed democrats lost. It goes both ways. Both systems do many things well. Issue is that healthcare is around 10% of a country's GDP. Any changes will be major and difficult. Unless there are extreme issues running on change is difficult. Also, it comes down to my recent comment in that society settled with their system where the US society wants better. Every attempt to pass universal healthcare failed in the US. So it goes both ways. "I was able to met many people from..U.K..Sweden..Canada..Denmark..Norway..and being a bit of a political junkie I always bring up policies and healthcare when I can talk to these people and they all say basically the same thing..we love this system and would never change it" Now how many are healthcare experts? How many have experienced a different system? That is the issue. If all you experienced was the system in Denmark and are not an expert in healthcare that that argument is poor. Healthcare is very complex and cannot be limited down to anecdotal arguments. The US does many things well, but there is room for improvement. Same with other nations. As I said, there is a major difference between not liking a system and looking to improve it. ".he couldn't believe how a country like America didn't have healthcare for all." No country has healthcare for all, period. It is impossible due to lack of resources.
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"And that lady from Texas had more than one shop and there is no way in the world I believe she didn't have healthcare for herself..again she wanted to keep the profits floating to the top with no concern to those who worked for her." And here is why people rip on Bernie and his fans. You feel that every business owner is ultra rich. I bet you feel she is a part the "millionaires and billionaires" and the "1 percent". The average profit margins of a hair salon is around 7%. That's low. Fast food restaurants sit around 2% and full service restaurants sit around 7%. That means for every dollar they earn they keep 7 cents of it. To put in comparison what is considered to be a large profit margin for a small business is 18%. These businesses are not rich. They are well off, but they do not have the profits to pay their employees higher wages and healthcare. That's a fact. That is where you and Bernie are disconnected with reality. "Before I retired I worked for a company that was doing very well the owner had a yacht..many high end cars..vacation home..paid for 2 kids to go through a Ivy League school...you get the idea. " One, I doubt it. Two, if true then your anecdotal experience does not represent the norm. The business I worked for had an owner who did not have all of that. He was paying off a loan, had only one home, two trucks, and that's about it. So if you want to go anecdotal routes my experience replaces yours. My cousin runs his own business and can only afford one employee. He has no savings for retirement. Contrary to what Bernie says business owners are not rich. They are not all "millionaires and billionaires". Moore owning 9 houses is a problem. But also, you feeling that all of these business owners are rich and only care about profits is a problem as well. I suggest you study up on business more and economics and realize how much money people really make.
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"The company I worked for before I retired and what they are doing on healthcare while making strong profits is not rare in today's America." A lot of companies give out healthcare. Those that don't do so for one simple reason, they can't afford to. I bet your company could not afford to either. You complain about your boss but in reality if you were to cut the pay of a boss down to zero it would not do anything to raise worker's salaries. Take, for example, Walmart. If you were to take the salaries of the top 6 executives of Walmart and spread it to the 525,000 lowest paid workers of Walmart those workers will earn an extra $147 a year. That's it. "Anyway if you look at the polls more than 50% of the people in America want Medicare for all or a single payer plan" Polls are very deceptive and vague. While they may support it, if you ask them about taxes the majority do not want higher taxes. In Colorado, a left leaning state that voted for Bernie in the primaries, 80% said no to universal healthcare. In every state it has been tried it fail with no uproar. Republicans ran on the idea of repealing Obamacare and won. You look at polls when every other indicator shows differently. You keep looking at polls that are wrong. ".you say people in other countries enjoy their healthcare system...and they may do. But Sanders isn't willing to look at the short comings...because the debate is about a better system with fewer short comings not a 100% perfect model nothing man made is perfect but the Universal system is much better for everyone and thats the point not that it could still have a few short comings" Read the book "The Business of Health". There they break down the numbers in healthcare and show other countries are not better. You say they are but give zero evidence of the fact. Just saying they are better does not make it true. Bernie does not give any numbers either on healthcare. He just says in other countries they do it better. And when pushed with actual facts and pricing he goes to a subjective poll. That is all he has. Meanwhile, in the US we are moving away from a system like that with Republicans winning and states saying no where in Colorado 80% said no. If people wanted universal healthcare a state would have passed it by now. "And yes when you met many people from different countries that all have the same type of system and they all use that system and its been around for 50..40..30..years and they all speak highly of that system...a word to the wise,take heed on that message,because its working." I like the US system. Everyone I met in the US like it. So by your low standards the US system is great. "And when small businesses or even larger ones don't offer decent healthcare benefits its much harder to keep good help because this issue is very important to families/workers. " EXACTLY, that is how the free market works. Businesses want to pay more. You contradicted yourself when you talk about greedy companies. Businesses want to pay more but don't for one simple reason, they can't afford it. "My point isn't about hurting the small business owner but a healthcare system change will help them." It won't as they would not be able to afford the higher taxes. Bernie wants to expand the payroll tax which is a wage killer. "listen to Mark Blyth on this subject." I listened to him. He is not an economists and went on a rant about Friedman that made zero sense. But as a whole, he is not an economist. I don't know why people take what he says in that issue that seriously. " And as we move away from the small business world into the bigger companies we know record profits are being made the wealth gap " Income and wealth are not equal. Also, there are large profits for two reasons. 1. Larger companies with more shares 2. They were not willing to invest with Obama. If Bernie were in office they would not invest at all. " wages are pretty stagnant for many years." Wage stagnation is a myth. If you use the PCE of GDP deflator method of inflation wages have been going up. Also, inflation tends to over exaggerate the rate, this is called the "Boskin rule". As a whole wage stagnation is a myth.
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"The company I retired from could very well pay a lot more towards the healthcare plan" Great, that is your one anecdotal evidence. Maybe you should have found a new job. " Again its common today to see well to do companies not offering healthcare or offering horrible plans." Because they can't afford it. Also, the number one problem I have is that our healthcare situation is so that people rely on their employers for healthcare to begin with. I am in favor of ending that by removing the payroll tax. "And to say people are happy with the healthcare system in America..no disrespect, is just plain crazy. " But it exists and as recent elections shown the are the majority. "Town Hall meetings and healthcare rallies were popping up all across the country with citizens very upset with our system" But yet 80% of voters in Colorado said no. And nothing is getting passed in other states. " Thats why even in red states when Sanders did town meetings on this issue even the people who support the GOP applauded him" What evidence is there that they supported the GOP? " And lets not forget we pay more in healthcare costs than countries like Canada we pay twice sometimes three times as much in our system...how is that better or even just as bad??" My boss pays more for rent than I do in our apartments. Does that mean my apartment is better? Saying we pay more is not an argument. There is a lot more to it. A car that cost more is typically better than one that cost less. "And you say business want to pay more...well in reality they rather work on the shoe string level and take their chances then offer strong wages and good benefits." If an employer does not pay an employee well they will not get the good employees. " Companies in a capitalist system only think of the bottom line..the greatest profits," And you do as well. You think about your profits as well which is why you want universal healthcare and a higher wage. "As for payroll tax or paying more in taxes in general does not kill workers if these taxes are used to help citizens when it comes to healthcare or higher education..so forth,its a strong investment into the country" The payroll tax taxes payroll. If a company were to give someone a raise they would have to pay a higher payroll tax. That is why businesses pay with benefits to begin with. You not only want to raise the payroll tax but you want to allow the government to give healthcare benefits as well. That is reducing wages for workers in numerous ways. 1. No more benefits 2. Higher taxes 3. Higher taxes on employer if they were to give out a higher wage, so they won't give our raises. "If wages kept up with production we would be at much higher levels in 2018" Very deceptive. To start, from very basic stats hourly earnings have kept up with productivity. Unit labor cost is positive meaning hourly compensation is outpacing productivity. Also, you have to factor in that productivity is up due to technology, and more productivity means better goods and services that are cheaper. For example, cars today get better mileage, last longer and are safe, all of which save money in the long run. That is essentially a wage increase. " In the end we both see these issues through different lenses we could dance this dance in circles from now to the end of time we are both fairly well versed in our teachings and beliefs" I question that as you cited Blyth as if he is a legit economist. You also brought up the myth of wage stagnation and failed to realize the numerous variables involved.
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mike lewis, Trump is not complaining about rich people.
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Not desperate for attention, just pointing out the stupidity in this channel.
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Jacques, what has Moore, Bernie and Warren done to help out people? Have they started a business and created jobs? Have they started a fund raiser (raising taxes does not count)? Moore made millions off of a movie about Flint. What has he done to help the people of Flint? What has he done to help out the healthcare situation? The Koch brothers donated money to John Hopkins for research. Moore owns 9 homes. Bernie Sanders wrote a book and sold it in Walmart when he could have posted it online for free. Fact is these individuals are selling you snake oil and you foolishly bought it.
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Jacques, Bernie has fought for only himself. He could not get a job until he got into politics at the age of 40. He stole electricity from his neighbor because he could not pay his bills. Anyone can run their mouth. What has Bernie actually done though? Running your mouth is one thing. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder. Bernie has no actions. He runs his mouth, has three homes, sells his book in Walmart and made a million off of it. I am not asking Bernie nor Warren to change the world. But running their mouth is them being a sells person. They are selling you snake oil at that point. They have never produced anything.
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"Sanders has been calling out inequality since his college days. " Great, now what has he actually done for it? All talk and no action. That is the problem. He becomes a politician, becomes rich, and now owns three home. Again, when has he ran a business creating jobs? When has he ran a fundraiser raising money for a need? When has he donated a good portion of his money for something we need in society? He owns three homes. He writes a book and sales it in Walmart and earns a million off of it. What is he going to do with that money? Why didn't he just post his book online for free? I am not saying he has to be poor. But why does he need three homes? Why could he not post that book online for free? He can sleep in his DC office like many other politicians do. Bernie is all talk and no actions. You guys are like lemmings following him down a broken path. You will be doing all the work while he just talks and enjoys his riches.
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"We are against extreme abject wealth inequality. " Like owning three homes.
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"Or the residence in DC which is kind of required of a Senator.." Not true. Many sleep in their offices.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/lissandravilla/in-the-metoo-era-some-democrats-say-members-of-congress?utm_term=.nnMbOOz4n#.pigArr3WL https://www.npr.org/2015/12/26/458207661/meet-the-lawmakers-who-sleep-shower-work-all-on-capitol-hill
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John Jefferson, people here think Shapiro is an idiot. When you ask them how they cannot give an example. But even if one disagrees with Shapiro he is far from stupid. It is people projecting.
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John Jefferson, it isn't just that. Shapiro graduated from Harvard and written many books and spoken in front of congress. He is very intelligent. The fact that many on this channel cannot accept that shows how lost they are. I don't like Warren but I would admit she is intelligent. She is a politician which explains her actions.
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StrikeWing17971, when has Shapiro been wrong? Give me examples and your reasoning. I will wait.
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RogerG, Shapiro explained his position on the furniture issue. Watch the video entitled "Ben Shapiro on Healthcare". He breaks down his argument in how healthcare should be treated as a commodity. As for Scandinavian countries, pointing to happiness is subjective, so stop. You can't use that as an argument as most people in every country has never experienced a different life. There is a correlation between income level and suicides. People with lower incomes have lower suicide rates. Are they happy? Maybe, maybe not. They have less money and, arguably, not an easier life. But as a whole happiness is subjective. As for their economies there are several variables to that. They have lower corporate tax rates. They have much smaller populations, they have a stronger free market with less cronyism. Norway and Denmark have higher oil productivity. All of that the political right supports. There are also indicators of a weaker economy as well such as lower GDP per capita when you factor in PPP. Less productivity. It isn't that he is denying stats. It is that stats can be viewed in numerous ways due to the several variables at play.
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Moore is not for anyone. When has he helped the people of Flint? When has he ever ran a fundraiser? When has he ran a business? The same goes for others on that panel.
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I thought this tub of lard disappeared.
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So autism is bad?
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TheScholar74, great point. As long as they feel people are on their side they have no desire to change their minds. They feel all they have to do is motivate people to vote.
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Urraca de Chiffo, you are looking at polls. I am looking at an actual voting result. 80% of voters in Colorado has the opportunity to have universal healthcare in their state but said no. You are clinging onto these vague polls when I am giving you reality.
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Bill Anderson, those polls are around 2000 people. Over 2 million said no in Colorado. That sample size in Colorado is much larger than a vague poll of 2000. But let us just say it is one state. Here are the issues. 1. Supposedly over 60% want universal healthcare 2. Colorado is a left leaning state that voted for Bernie in the primaries 3. 80% said no to universal healthcare 4. Why was there such a large difference in a blue state that supported Bernie? 60% nationwide with 80% saying no in this state? If it was closer, as in say 55% saying no in Colorado then sure, I will buy into these polls. But it isn't. You go from 60% saying they want it to 80% saying no. That is a large swing.
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Daniel Newman, that is the point. These polls are very vague. People saying they want some type of government ran system is vague. In reality we have that with medicare and medicaid. These polls do not get into specifics. That Coloradocare bill did. It showed the tax increases and people said no. When more details are given people are against universal healthcare. People are looking at these polls when they are, in reality, vague and misleading. That is why you can't use these polls.
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