Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Bernie Brilliantly Explains What The US Can Learn From Denmark" video.

Bernie has very little facts on his side in this debate. Bernie looked like a fool and went with only emotions. He literally contradicted himself here.
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" First you raise taxes only on the very rich, demonstrate that this has positive effects for the country, then push more progressive taxes, show the positive effects, etc. It has to be a gradual change" I see that as eventually full government take over of the market. You may call it gradual but eventually everyone will be paying 50% or more. I regards to Denmark they are not any better than the US. I don't see why people are so quick to model them.
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"They are much better than the US. " Based on what? To start, you are comparing countries with much different sizes and completely different cultures. To give a small example, no country has a NCAA like program attached to their colleges. How do you account for that when you push for "free college"? "Also, a lot of people seem to forget that the U.S. used to have 70%+ tax rates in the 70's" Which very few pay. "You can also see that under democrats there is a significantly higher GDP growth % than under republicans who want tax cuts." Here are some factors 1. Under Clinton we had a republican congress, now who controls the purse? 2. Following WWII every other nation was rebuilding while the US wasn't giving us an advantage economically, so no matter who was in office we would have been fine. Under Eisenhower we were great with over 7% growth twice. That followed Truman where he did it once in that time. Never happened under Kennedy or LBJ though. In 1967 there were 155 Americans who earned over $200,000 at that time who paid $0 in federal taxes. That was under LBJ. Seems like a tax cut for the rich did well.
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We have around 30 states with a larger population than Denmark. Denmark has not min. wage and had mandatory military for years. Why doesn't Bernie include those facts?
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I think Bernie lost some support there. The best was when the individual said he supports tax cuts for everyone and Bernie talked about the Koch brothers and the Walton family.
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Kyle just posted a video where Bernie said he will cut taxes for the middle class. Now he posts one that has Bernie saying he wants to raise taxes.
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Black Wolf, I understand what "per capita" means and so do most who you talk to. There is more to the economy than that. Do you understand PPP? When you do that the US beats out Denmark. Out of the 13 nations with 100+ million people the US is number 1 in GDP per capita. But again, there is more to it than that. There is value in looking at population size. With a larger population you are dealing with more diversity, more cultures, more issues and more barriers. You are even dealing with more economies. How one state runs economically is different than another. One state's culture is different than another. Pushing for a one size fits all policy is challenging. If you ever study economics you will study sociological and cultural issues that you have to account for. In some areas of the country they desire higher taxes and more government where in others they don't. In WV they desire using coal as an energy source because that is a main driver of their economy. In NV they accept gambling as an economic source. In the midwest they accept farming. We are a nation under the Constitution on the idea that we are rights to control the government. What Bernie is doing is creating a country that wants to fight each other, mainly those who are lazy and refuse to work and produce with those that do work and produce.
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Kori, Bernie said he wanted to cut taxes on the middle class and that only the top 1/10 of 1%, like the Koch Brothers and the Walton family will pay for it. After that Denmark guy addressed the issue that taxes are high Bernie said that everyone will have to pay higher taxes. Bernie has been saying for a long time that only the rich, who he describes in different was as either the 1%, millionaires and billionaires, corporations, the Walton family, etc., were going to pay. It has been a distraction to the harsh reality that everyone will have to pay more, and now Bernie admitted to it. And as Cruz put it, after seeing the failures of Obamacare and how corrupt federal politicians can be, why would the people trust the government in raising taxes and controlling their money? Bernie is not going to win with our culture on that stance. He lost a lot of supporters in that debate.
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g1370, no I do not have a source. But there is a reason why Bernie lost and in this debate people were more or less not agreeing with him. When Bernie is pressed on these issues he resorts to the same talking points. In this case he rambled on about how healthcare is a right and free things. He does not get into details on how much it will cost, quality, how high taxes will be, etc. He has no facts or data on his side, just talking points. Bernie lost and he will eventually disappear. These debates with Cruz are not helping him at all.
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"funny how people like you don't complain about spending billions on endless wars " Actually the right does complain, that is why they did not vote for Jeb Bush.
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So Kyle posts a video that has Bernie saying he will cut taxes for the middle class. Now you have a guy from Denmark saying that taxes are high and Bernie agrees he wants those programs in Denmark and taxes will be high. So now I am confused.
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I am confused, Kyle just posted a video of Bernie saying he wants to cut taxes on the middle class. Now he is saying he will raise them.
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The voters in Colorado rejected universal healthcare with 80% saying no. Bernie won that state in the primaries.
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Cruz is looking to become president in the future and I feel he will in 2024 after Trump. So he is going to remain active. One way is debating loud mouth Bernie. It is good because Bernie is easy to debate as Bernie is an idiot.
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Also, to add, when you say "per capita" you are making the assumption that everyone is equal as in personality, wants, needs, etc. That is simply not true.
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JNF, after Obamacare people are not going to believe someone when they say they will be paying less under medicare for all. Even at that it is simply not true. Medicare for won't be cheaper unless you lower the quality.
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g1370, it isn't an opinion. This is why Bernie lost.
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" Is that why every nation that has a singlepayer system significant lower costs and better outcomes for their patients?" That is not true. https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf
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"He lost because he supported a policy supported by the majority of the population? " So you support mob rule? Bernie ended the debate by citing polls saying the majority agrees with him. For one, that is debatable as 80% said not to universal healthcare in Colorado, a left leaning state that supported Bernie in the primaries. Next, that is a gang like mentality of basically saying "I have more people on my side, so bow down to me and do what we say."
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"We literally pay more than any other industrialized country in the world for worse healthcare outcomes. That's just a fact and no amount of right wing bs will change that." It is not a fact but keep believing that if you want.
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Selvy, Bernie does not deny that most top donors go towards democrats when Cruz brought it up. Bernie went on a rant about "millionaires and billionaires" and went on a rant about campaign donations to which Cruz brought up two points Bernie did not deny. 1. More big money went to democrats 2. If we have such a corrupt federal government, why does Bernie want to give it more power? Another one was when Bernie said at the beginning that he will supports tax cuts for the middle class. When cornered he admitted has to raise taxes on everyone. Cruz brought up multiple times how much Bernie's plan will cost and how even after taxing the rich we still won't be able to pay for it. Bernie never denied it. When cornered he admitted we have to raise taxes on all but somehow we are supposed to believe that it will save us money. Bernie looked like a fool here. People are not buying into his appeal to emotion and hate the rich rhetoric.
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1. Population size matters. With later populations you have a larger diversity and thus it is harder to micromanage programs. This is why many on the right push for state rights and state ran programs as they simply work better. Even Milton Friedman supported that. The more local government is the more you can see if you are getting your money's worth. 2. It won't save the federal government money. The federal government has been spending more on education and healthcare for the past 40+ years and look how the debt is growing.
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People who say "taxation is theft" are extreme in my opinion and I don't agree with. However, bringing up the "social contract" is extreme as well as that is vague and has not standard for the most part. The closest we have is the Constitution and when you study the history and design of it it was to limit government and give more power to the people mainly with smaller, more local government. I have listened to Seder's debate, he does not know what he is talking about and is mainly an ideologue that goes to the extreme in cases to try to prove a point. When he tried to debate Peter Schiff he looked a like a fool as Seder wanted to force companies to do something where Schiff simply said "give companies the data and let them decide". I can go on and give a long comment, but the reality is that taxation is needed and there is value in having money being spent by government. However, we have to see if we are getting our money's worth as citizens and ensure government remains the servants and not the masters. You do that by keeping it as local as possible. Milton Friedman has a great video on that entitled "Milton Friedman Crushes Man's Three Questions Like Dixie Cups". Someone, very poorly, tried to challenge Seder on that idea and he went to a point "what about a street" as opposed to a city. The truth is we have a system like that as we have gated communities with their own set of rules and enforcement as well. That is up to the community to decide if they want that. Point being, progressives have poor arguments as well.
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True. Every data aside the issue will be culture. The US culture will not accept Bernie's high taxes. Doesn't matter if it will be best for the country or not, that can be debated. But the culture does not want it.
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Jack Scheibelein, it isn't as easy as "pooling everyone together". That only works on the large scale in communist countries as there is not any individual goods and services. Not saying that is bad, just saying that will be the case. People will not be treated as individuals in the system you and Bernie want.
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HOBO, medicare and medicaid are losing money and many doctors do not use it.
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"You don't know what per capita means, do you?" People do, but economics goes beyond that. You have people with different personalities that love things to be personalized to meet their needs.
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"what does the population have anything to do with the systems effectiveness?" A lot. Look at the 13 countries with 100+ million people. The US beats them all in GDP per capita. When you are dealing with a large population you have different cultures inside that population and more issues to deal with. Just look at the US and compare states by crime. States with the lowest crime rate typically have low population such as VT, NH, WY, etc. Small population means you can micromanage issues more and have less diversity. There is a lot more to it but the fact is that Bernie is ignoring many factors in this issue that intelligent people realize. Others are the fact that Denmark has no min. wage and has mandatory military.
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"what do different cultures have to do with single payer healthcare?" A lot. Not everyone feels that the government should be the provider of healthcare. Not everyone feels that high taxes is the best route. People approach healthcare in different ways. Some cultures are more aggressive and like to take control. For example, talking to a Canadian they told me the biggest difference they noticed between the US system and the Canadian system is that in Canada you come in, get care and leave. In the US people ask questions, they look up information on their own. They may ask multiple doctors and will inquire about further testing. They are more involved. Culture plays a major role.
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"Wouldn't that indicate that it is more feasible for the US to implement single-payer? Japan after all manages to do so with $20k lower GDP per capita and their system is rated higher than the US's by the WHO." No, it show that when you compare the US to countries of similar size the US is doing better. Why doesn't Bernie and other leftest compare us to Japan or other large countries? "I recall from your inane ramblings before that Japan doesn't count because they have problems too. Of course some of the problems they don't have are medical bankruptcy and lack of access to preventative care" They have high suicide rates. What's your point?
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"To increased military budgets every year. " Defense spending has been dropping for over 50 years.
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gumzster, I agree, but why doesn't Bernie mention that? Unions come from the free market.
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Unions come from the free market. Unions existed when government spending was very low. Unions failed in the US when it became corrupt by government.
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david bouy, what is wrong with what I said?
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"Must be why Denmark has a higher unemployment rate than the US" Many factors contribute to that. Again, small country, no min. wage, low corporate tax rate, etc.
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We still have selective service in the US. The state of our world and defense has it so it will never be brought up. Most conflict is settled off of the battlefield these days. That is why defense spending as a percent of GDP has been dropping world wide.
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John Handcock, Cruz brought up statistics and Bernie, who runs a campaign on healthcare, had none. He brought back the guy from Denmark who only brought up one story of his mother with cancer, which is an extreme case and anecdotal. That is not debunking anything. If it is than me saying I never had a problem with healthcare in the US is enough to say that US system is great in healthcare. But I am just one guy who never had a bad experience. On the point of raising taxes, Bernie has said all throughout of the debate that he wants to cut taxes on the middle class. Cruz kept saying that in order to pay for his plan you have to raise taxes on everyone. When cornered Bernie finally admitted you have to. Never mind the data on if it will save money or not, US citizens will not support a tax increase as our culture does not want that.
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John Handcock, the Denmark gentleman simply gave his anecdotal experience. That will not go well in the big picture.
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Sharon, I watched the video. Kyle is acting like an idiot again.
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" What about a cut to military spending?" Since 1960 defense spending went from 10% of GDP to around 3%. In 1950 federal government spending was around 14% of GDP, not it is around 20%. We have been cutting defense spending and increasing spending on social welfare programs like wants for the past 50+ years. You are seeing the results.
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The point was that Bernie literally said that he wants to cut taxes on the middle class, and now he said we have to raise taxes on everyone. The American culture won't accept that and he lied.
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"from what I have seen, heard and read he seems to have been pretty consistent on most things" He literally said that he wants to cut taxes on the middle class and than admits that we have to raise taxes in order to have what he wants in the same debate.
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Pretty much how it went. Funny how Kyle just posted a video of Bernie saying he wants to cut taxes on the middle class.
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Bradford, I watched the entire debate. Early on Bernie said he wants to cut taxes for the middle class and only the Koch brothers and Walton family will pay. Now he is saying that everyone will pay more. Also, he won't admit that Obamacare was a failure, and he also does not deny it. However, he wants to expand the federal government after the failure of Obamacare.
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I took economic classes. When you tax the 1% more they will have less resources to invest and create more wealth. Also, study some culture and how it is related to economics.
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Ever thought that Bernie lost that badly? I watched the debate and like the healthcare debate it wasn't even close.
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It was great how Bernie talked about healthcare for a long time and when Cruz started to bring up facts about healthcare Bernie tried to stop him. Bernie lost big time in this debate.
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And same in the US. Only around 5% of those in the US work multiple jobs. But how many of those jobs are hobbies? For example, I have my full time job and I work as a sports official which is also a job I am taxed. Someone who works full time in the office of a business and umps little league baseball has, by definition, two jobs. So while that 5% is small to begin with, it is misleading due to what is a "job" defined as.
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