Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Does Medicare For All Take Away Freedom Of Choice?" video.

Except roads are locally ran and funded, and are far easier to handle as opposed to healthcare.
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Police and firefighters are locally ran and funded and nowhere near as complex as healthcare.
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It isn't that easy. Unless you are willing to have the government spend a shit ton of money healthcare providers will cap how much care you will receive.
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The problem I have here is that those pushing for M4A are not being honest. They are leaving out so much in their arguments and it is actually dangerous.
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@seth1455 , easy. The US pays the most in the world. One reason is because we offer the most advanced testing in the world. For example, we offer more CT scans and MRIs per capita. Other nations place a cap on how much care one receives because the government refuses to pay. As a result the US leads the world in survival rates in advanced illnesses. Sure, universal healthcare has advantages like zero bankruptcies and everyone have at least some chance to have very basic care. However, the draw backs is that advanced care is limited. Think about it. You will be adding 30+ million people to the system and cutting pay by 40%. Something has to give. Also, the far left is pushing M4A under misinformation. Take bankruptcies for example. While they exist they are over stated as pointed out in the study entitled "Myth and Measurement — The Case of Medical Bankruptcies"
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@seth1455 , the far left is pushing M4A on deception and misinformation. If they actually get it passed the people will be completely shocked at the major changes no one told them about causing people to freak out causing chaos.
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How many small businesses pay for healthcare? The payroll tax will harm them.
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Defense is a role of the federal government when it comes to foreign affairs. Police are locally ran and funded. You don't need a police service if your local community don't want it. But you create that choice. Same with roads, locally ran and funded. Many rural roads are full of holes and the only way they get plowed during the winter is if Farmer John volunteers to do it. Courts are about protecting your rights. Also, those programs are a drop in the bucket in cost. And they fall in line with the Constitution and the design of this nation. Healthcare does not unless it were to be ran locally.
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@Reggaelibrarian , it isn't so much cost but so much that under M4A quality and accessibility will drop. And one can easily argue it isn't a better system overall.
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@Reggaelibrarian , saying "invest" isn't that simple. Doctors are a highly skilled job that not many want to do.
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@sopheakko697 , true. The left feels they can just throw money at a system, or just completely change it and people will comply. They won't. Doctors earn a lot but few become one because it is a challenging field that requires a lot of work.
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The economics does work. The problem is that we don't have a free market system. We have a heavily regulated and subsidized system. This lady brings up the employer. Why do employers offer healthcare insurance? Because of the payroll tax. It becomes a tax free way to pay employees. Without it people will demand a higher wage, pay for most healthcare out of pocket, and pay for insurance for unplanned, expensive cases. That lowers costs down.
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@jeremypaton4300 , insurance counters the inelastic part of it. Many things in healthcare can be paid for out of pocket. For unplanned, expensive cases that is what insurance is for. Consider car insurance. It does not pay for new tires even though they are necessary for a safe car. It pays for an accident though as that is not planned. "When you take a market with many consumers and reduce it to one single payer, that entity gains leverage to lower prices." How so? Especially if that entity is the government? As a healthcare provider will just jack up prices knowing that if the government does not pay people will blame the government. That why federal government programs always cost more then expected.
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@jeremypaton4300 , I know what inelastic is. That is why insurance exist. There will be a time that you will demand something in a short notice and don't have time to shop around. Thus insurance takes care of it. For example, with car insurance. If someone hits my car I need a car soon to still go on with life. Car insurance steps in. Yes , car insurance has competition, I agree. I feel we need more competition in healthcare insurance which the federal government prevents. Also, car insurance covers unplanned, expensive cases. Not oils changes which can be planned. Do pharma companies have a monopoly or it is more of them "price gauging" because government programs like Medicare don't pay much? Or because we don't have a free market in healthcare? A lot of pharma drugs can be paid for out of pocket. "Imagine for a second, in a single payer system, the government does not make a deal with the pharma company. " Then people don't get their care and the people get mad at the government. In other nations people have less access to care.
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@jeremypaton4300 , I support insurance. I will tell you want I support. I support removing the payroll tax. With that businesses will pay employees with a higher wage as opposed to paying with healthcare insurance. With that people can buy insurance at a younger age and insurance can pay for unplanned, expensive situations. No more men paying for contraceptives and women paying for Viagra. Also, at a younger age you are healthier and thus less chance for pre existing conditions. With having your own insurance you can move jobs easier. You can force insurance companies to compete to give you a plan cater to you. The older you get and with more income you can expand it to cover kids. But a lot of healthcare spending can be done out of pocket. With that you force healthcare providers to compete thus lowering prices. Overall, insurance companies will compete and so will healthcare providers. And with insurance companies paying for only unplanned, expensive cases, their prices will drop. Finally, I will admit this won't cover everyone. Local communities at that point, either through charities or local government programs, can fill in the gap. But those services will not be great. For example, I had an STD check up through a locally ran program. It took 6 hours to do. I used my insurance (or could have paid $50) to use a private route and it took me 30 minutes. Overall, it is about creating competition and give the people the choice. Again, on your plan what if pharma companies jack up prices? Government will still have to pay or feel the wrath of the people.
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@desmondbrown5508 , insurance should be a thing. Problem is that they have too much power because we don't have a choice in what plan to get due to the payroll tax.
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They do want to take away choice. We won't have a choice between the a public option or a private one. The reason why we don't have a choice in reality to the work place is because of the payroll tax that the federal government created. So you can thank the federal government for that. And these people's solution is to expand it?
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@TheSpartan3669 it is which is scary
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Crickett , what if doctors decided to opt out of Medicare?
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Crickett , they will be stupid considering how much insurance pays.
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Crickett , considering how M4A will pay less I don't see it as stupid.
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Crickett , Medicare pays doctors and healthcare providers less.
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , I agree, but why do employers pay with healthcare insurance as opposed to a higher wage? Because of the payroll tax. You can thank the federal government for that.
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , no, why would an employer go through the hassle of handing benefits when they can just pay a higher wage?
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , is it leverage? Remove the payroll tax and companies will attract workers with higher wages and let them pay for their own healthcare.
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , again, without a payroll tax companies won't offer benefits as they rather pay cash. And competition will drive that as well.
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , the government did make it happen. They created the payroll tax to where businesses end up paying with benefits. The US never got universal care because the public does not want it.
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 so no rebuttal?
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , if you want to fight for universal healthcare you should do your best to understand the entire issue. Dismissing the other side is dangerous. With the payroll tax providing healthcare insurance to employees tax free way to pay them. That is why they do it. Same with a company car. Get rid of the payroll tax and employees will simply demand more money and pay for their own insurance.
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , I rather pay for my own insurance. I can force companies to compete and get the coverage I want. I can also switch jobs and not worry about losing my insurance. If they won't volunteer to pay more they why give out healthcare to begin with?
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , in a free market system if any insurance denied people no one will buy their coverage. Also, what is wrong with profit? Profit means growth. So you would rather have a government ran system that decides your fate for you? As for a "progressive tax system", Nordic nations have more of a flat tax then we do. In the US our highest tax bracket is $400,000. In Denmark their highest tax bracket is around $55,000.
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@snoopy_peanuts_77 , why not?
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@ToxicAudri , plenty of people who will pay out of pocket. Or the black market.
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@TheSpartan3669 , true. I have a medication and it costs me, if I were to pay out of pocket, $10. I pay with insurance and thus I pay $8. It costs my insurance $300. Why? Because pharmaceutical companies have to charge insurance companies more to offset the cost of people on Medicare who pay less. Same in why a band aid cost hundreds of dollars in a hospital.
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@TheSpartan3669 , if Bernie actually passed his Wall Street tax investors will just trade in different ways.
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@ToxicAudri "How can we wipe the debt clean? Simple, poof, it's gone, " That will cause massive inflation bud.
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There is a difference between coverage and access.
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Canada's care has many flaws to it such as people dying waiting for "elective" heart surgery.
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