Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Obama Team Can't Fathom Why The Left Wants Medicare For All" video.
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@GeorgePiazza , actually that study you are pointing to is not peer reviewed. It is more of a report at that point as it is not published in any peer reviewed journal.
Next, it has many flaws. To start, they say costs will go down. Sure, under M4A payouts will drop by 40%. But accessibility and quality will drop as well. Let me ask you this, if your boss cuts your pay by 40% how will you react?
Next, many of their numbers are highly questionable. They admit that jobs will be lost and people will have to be retrained and relocated. The give a number for a relocation cost but don't explain how they obtained it. Also, those numbers are very hard to obtain as the market will change drastically. If a bunch of people have to leave City X and move to City Y to get a new jobs, their homes in City X will be very hard to sell and will drop in value and the homes in City Y will go up in costs meaning they are going to lose money. Sure, the government may pick up the slack, but how much that slack is will be impossible to tell. And just the fact that the government is going to subsidize the program will lead to even more costs.
To add to that, they are assuming people will be just willing to move. That is a very poor assumption. Also, think of the psychological effect it will have on kids being forced to leave their hometown and schools. When a new high school was built in my city any senior and junior zoned for that high school had the option of remaining in their current high school for that reason.
Next, they talk about retraining. What makes you think these people will be willing to be retrained or have the ability to? And retrained to do what? Saying "retrain them" is a poor argument. It is one of many the far left makes. They are vague with no details. In the article entitled
"Evaluating Retraining Programs
in OECD Countries: Lessons Learned"
They lay out how retraining programs struggle to succeed. And again, we have to consider the psychological aspect of this. If someone likes their job you are forcing them to take up a new one they might not like.
Also, that "study" assumes that Medicare has lower overhead costs when in reality it doesn't. To me it is not that reliable. And again, when you cut costs quality and accessibility will drop as well. And also consider that study is from the same economic department that has one of the authors for M4A.
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@grmpEqweer , that 45,000 stat has been challenged and is misleading. To start, amenable mortality is an issue every nation faces. Next, with those 45,000, there are several variables there. As Prof. Katherine Baicker said, those individuals are poor and bad health is associated with being poor. The poor are in bad health typically because of their lifestyle choices. So the question becomes do the die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? As pointed out in the book "Being Mortal", people seek out modern medicine to live another 5 or 10 years, but will really only live another 5 or 10 months. So if you give those 45,000 access to care and they die in 5 months, was that a success? Plus, Prof. Richard Kronick did a similar study and found little to no correlation between having insurance and early death.
So to point to that 45,000 stat is very misleading. As for advanced illnesses, read the book "In Excellent Health" by Prof. Scott Atlas. As for healthcare rankings, they are completely arbitrary and any ranking I have seen is by some special interest group with a motive.
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