Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Trump Says Dems Oppose "Beloved Private Health Insurance"" video.
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@KingJT80 , no system is ideal. I feel a free market system is the best at covering the most people with the highest quality out there. I ultimately support a free market healthcare system where local communities, whether it be local charities or local government, filling in the gaps that the free market does not cover.
Your example of fire departments supports me 100%. Fire departments are ran and funded locally. Some are actually private in some areas. In many areas fire fighters are volunteer where nation wide 70% of fire fighters are volunteer. The fire department is literally the local community working together to help out their local society. Whether it be through a private system, or a public system, or a volunteer system. Even at that, the cost of a fire department is nothing compared to the cost of healthcare. You say "that's a rediculous line of thinking with so many implications I dont know where to start" because, not to be rude, you don't have a strong argument to begin with and don't understand how the system is ran. So you pull a logical fallacy.
Pointing to other nations is flawed in many ways as there are way too many factors to consider. To start, most of those nations are smaller than a lot of our states. Name me a nation with 100+ million people, universal healthcare and a strong economy? How about we use that standard. Next, those nations have many shortcomings as well. Our for profit system has led us to lead the work in R&D in technology and drug development in healthcare. Other nations take advantage of our advancements. Also, their survival rate, as argued by Prof. Scott Atlas in his book I cited, is lower than ours.
You say "right to life". All that means is that the government cannot take life without due process. On your idea of right to life how far do you want to take it? Do we give people food? Do we give people a home? And for how long? Eventually people die. At want point do we stop caring for them? Saying "right to life" is purely an emotional system by the way you are presenting it. In reality all it means is that government cannot take life away without due process.
All we have proved, in the US, is that crony capitalism does not work which is what we have in the US healthcare system. Adding more government will only make that situation worse, not better.
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@KingJT80 , never said we need private companies running everything. In fact, I said I support a government system to fill in the gaps if needed. There is a desire to have government, but government, like businesses, are flawed. Society needs to control government and these government programs need to work for the people. You do that by keeping it as local as possible. That is why fire departments are locally ran and funded. Same with police, K-12 education, public libraries, etc. Military is a federal issue as it deals with foreign affairs and serves the states. The military is not allowed to enforce domestic laws on the people.
You says "poor communities get horrible service". What do you base that off of?
Profit motive leads to more supply as there is a motive to create more.
In order to give someone healthcare you have to force someone to provide it. Your "right to life" idea means forcing someone to give up their services. Say a "poor community" had no doctor and the people there need healthcare. That means you have to force someone to move there to serve them whether they want to or not. You, at that point, are arguably depriving that doctor to their right to life.
Military members actually serve and work for our nation. What's your point?
The smaller the nation the easier it is to micromanage those programs. Also, the culture is less diverse to more people are on the same page. That is why local programs work much better than federal ones.
That isn't want the Koch Brothers study said. I suggest you read the actual study.
There are many arguments to say that other nations are not better than ours. I pointed to an book by a Stanford professor.
Again, saying "point to another country" is not an argument. Point to another animal in the animal kingdom that uses a computer,you can't. I guess us as humans should stop using computers.
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@JAMuUP , you did not hurt my feelings. I just look down on you as you judge others and label others as inferior when they disagree with your politics. That is not bad enough, you do it in a way that degrades other with a condition that is very challenging to solve.
How is supporting Trump a mental disorder? And how does me supporting him mean I don't care about people with a mental disorder? That is also insulting. A major reason why we have a president like Trump is because people on the far left, like you, have no desire to engage in intelligent discussion. You feel a certain people, in this case Trump supporters, have no desire to help others or improve the system when, in fact, they do. I feel that the federal government, when interacting in complex domestic issues like healthcare, cause more problems. For example, The Community Mental Health Act of 1963 was the federal government getting involved in mental healthcare. The result was mental health facilities closing down as the federal government could not manage the issue and people were being release from facilities before they were cured. The federal government made the situation worse.
There are arguments on both sides to improve our system. But when you completely ignore one side that becomes a problem and puts you in the wrong.
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@JAMuUP , let us break down your comment because it defines the problem with the left and a reason why I support Trump
"The "far left" huh? By that do you mean popular?"
What ideas are popular? If they are so popular than why are they not being supported at the local level. For example, every attempt to pass universal healthcare at the state level has failed.
" Most people need to take a "which party am I" quiz because they're clueless where they actually stand. "
Most people don't understand the issue in general which is a major reason why I support smaller, more local governments. I understand my position so there is no need to take an arbitrary test.
"Clearly your feelings are hurt."
Uh, no. I am doing just fine. My feelings don't get hurt by some radical whom I don't know.
"I view bigotry, homophobia and racism as a mental disorder. It's rampant in your Rebub party which has devolved into the far right. Does it not give you pause that nazis and the kkk support your party?"
Just because Nazis and KKK support republicans does not mean anything to me. Radical and hateful people support both sides. I care about the actual politicians. Also, just because the KKK supports a group does not make that group bad. If the KKK supported brushing your teeth would you start promoting tooth decay in response? If the KKK supporting taking showers after going to the gym would you boycott gyms or showers or both?
Also, this is an important part here. A major problem with the left is the playing of identity politics. Issues like racism, sexism, bigotry, etc. are essentially dead. How are republicans racists? How are they sexists? You can't say. I can argue democrats are through the soft bigotry of low expectations. Or by bringing up race and sex on issues that are not related to race and sex. People don't care what someone's race or sex is. But apparently the left does.
"Your side has deeply unpopular policy ideas yet still get support. "
Ever thought that their ideas are popular?
"If your contention is your side votes against their own interests and the interests of it's fellow citizens .."
Here we go. This is another major problem I have with the far left. It is they myopic, elitist attitude. You feel your ideas are in the best interest of others. How many people outside of your political beliefs do you actually know? I bet not many. Ever thought people don't want left wing ideas and for good reason? People are different across the board. To assume your ideas are the best and others are just stupid makes you the bigot one. You saying people are voting against their best interest because they don't know better. That makes you the problem. Ever tried to understand their position?
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