Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "AOC u0026 Bernie Propose Capping Interest Rates At 15%" video.
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C W , remember, you berate people mental disorders.
As for that 45,000 there are several arguments against it. One, what study from other nations do you have to compare that too? Nothing. So you can't say if that 45,000 is high, low, or the norm. Up to 7000 die a year in Australia waiting for "elective surgery"
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/hospitals/elective-surgery-waiting-times-2017-18/data
Go to the data, download the excel sheet and go to T 2.1
Also, those 45,000 who die are poor and bad health is associated with being poor as Katherine Baicker pointed out. There are higher rates of obesity, type II diabetes and smoking with the poor, all self inflicted. So the question becomes do they die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? In a paper where she was a lead author on when patients were given access to Medicaid their physical health did not improve. Why? That is because of poor life style choices. Even with access to healthcare their risk of death was high
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321
Also, in the book "Being Mortal" the author there describes how people point to modern medicine to live another 5 or 10 years when they may live only another 5 or 10 months. Thus if those 45,000 receive care and live a few more months in pain and agony and costing their family a lot of money along with using up limited resources in the healthcare industry, is that a success?
You see, I can take you "fact" and go deeper as opposed to just calling someone names.
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@javierchamorro8988 , I don't see it as barbaric as abortion is, arguably murder. So if we place a murderer in jail for 30 years is that barbaric? Not saying I agree with the law, just saying I don't see how it is barbaric and will lead us to the dark ages where the dark ages involved many things. What were abortion laws like in the dark ages? As for a miscarriage, she wont' be jailed for that.
He said that law was barbaric which sets the tone of if Ben supports it than he is barbaric, or if he doesn't than it questions his pro life stance. I, myself, support a state in passing that law on the grounds of state rights. Does that make be barbaric? You can't frame a question like that and expect to be taken seriously. You may say people have legit concerns in what is written, but to call it barbaric is not being an honest character.
I never said people who disagree with me are far left. I know many people who will disagree with me and lean left. The problem is that many on the left are far left in that they refuse to listen to the other side and label the other side as evil. The best example is here, listen to Clinton's response to this question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy542UgSelQ&t=18s
Now listen to Bernie's response to a similar question in a debate, go to the 35 minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bapp45Vx0UE&t=2138s
Notice the difference? Clinton had numbers and showed that he understood the challenges a business faces and that his law will increase those challenges. He took the time to understand a law he supported will have opposition and for good reasons. That there are drawbacks to the law. Bernie has never done that. He simply says "it is the law and you have to follow it". He had no desire to try to understand her position as a business owner. That is being far left. I disagreed with Clinton but I respected his approach, thus he is not far left.
In relation to this interview with Shapiro to immediately label a law as barbaric is being far left. You are labeling the other side as evil without having a discussion first. I listen to both sides. The problem is that the far left in this country refuses to listen to the other side and we have too many who are far left.
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@javierchamorro8988 , to start, you don't know my belief in abortion. I never said it was murder. I said it was "arguably murder". Big difference. You never picked my brain on my stance on abortion so you are now just assuming things.
Neill said the new law will take us back to the dark ages. I see no difference between saying that and saying they are barbaric. How does the new law take us back to the dark ages? He framed the question in a way to trigger the audience in that the law is inherently bad as opposed to controversial and debatable. He is not being honest at that point. You can't have a discussion with a dishonest person.
I bash the far left, not the left. If you pick my brain you will see that I support many ideas on the left. The issue is that the far left just berates and smears their opponents. Saying a law will take us back to the dark ages is doing just that. Or how the left smeared Kavanaugh. Or how the left reacted in the Smollet incident and so on.
Aren't businesses ran by people? Those business owners are not the "ultra rich" as Bernie says. That one lady did not have healthcare insurance herself. Also, most businesses do care about the people as well. That lady wanted to offer her customers a good product at a low price. She does not want to raise prices on her customers. To say that those three only care about businesses and not people is foolish. And to say Bernie cares about people is foolish. Why doesn't he try to understand the other side's position? Why didn't he take the time and try to understand how businesses and business owners (people) will be harmed? He didn't. Why? Because he doesn't care.
Why should a business be forced to pay healthcare to begin with? The business simply offers workers a job. They don't have to take it. You are making it sound like that a business is holding a gun to the workers head and forcing them to work there when they aren't. You really don't know the relationship between that business owner and the workers. Their relationship may be very strong and simply due to the market she can't afford healthcare insurance where many business models can't. She asked Bernie that question because Bernie supported a law that placed restrictions on her business and while doing so he did not consider her side of the issue. It showed he does not care.
As for saying she can go out of business, you are literally saying that almost every hair saloon, except those ran by large corporations, should go out of business. The market has it that hair saloons have very low profit margins. That is not her fault, that is how the market is. Your statement there, not to be rude, displays a high level of ignorance and is shallow. But I guess business owners are not people according to you.
You will not pay less in healthcare for all. The economics doesn't make sense if you say that.
I respect Clinton's approach because he was willing to take the time to understand the other side's position. Bernie does not. I can give other examples as well if you want. To progress in this nation we need to listen to both sides fairly. Neill immediately labeling a law as taking us to the dark ages is not that. This kind of behavior is why Trump got elected. The far left refuses to have discussions. They rather berate and smear. You did so yourself in saying that business owner should simply close down without trying to understand how the hair saloon business operates in our market.
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@jordanmercier3616 , uh, no. They have different systems but as a whole they are developed and also have many moderate to right leaning systems as well. For example, in Denmark they have more of a flat tax than the US does. The US has one of the most progressive tax codes in the world, even more so than European nations where the top tax bracket in Denmark starts at $55,000, in the US it is around $400,000. A flat tax is a right leaning policy. Same in how they have lower corporate taxes or some nations, like Canada and Norway have more oil production.
What makes Bernie far left is that he wants to completely dismantle our current system and completely replace it with left wing ideas as opposed to working with the system we currently have. That is no different than someone wanting to completely do away with Medicare. I don't think we should have ever established Medicare, but we did. Doing away with it is a right wing idea but also, at this point of time, a radical one.
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