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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Bernie u0026 Warren Tag Team Biden To Smithereens On Healthcare" video.
@jimbob3030 , I have seen those ranking charts and they are shallow. They leave out many factors. Read the book "In Excellent Health" by prof. Scott Atlas.
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He pushed both Warren and Sanders on how they will pay for M4A and they did not answer. They refused to admit they will have to raise taxes on everyone which the general public will not support.
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You are deflecting. Defense spending has been dropping for years. Even at that shifting the conversation to another issue does not end the issue of that universal healthcare will be expensive and will require much higher taxes.
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@jimbob3030 is it better? Other nations have it cheaper by maxing out how much healthcare you can receive. We offer more advanced care then other nations. For example, we offer more CT scans and MRIs.
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@barbarac9805 , saying we pay less is a poor argument. Sure, under M4A we will pay less, but we will have less access and lower quality as well.
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Angel Fox , what evidence do people give me? Typically I am the one giving peer reviewed papers and books by experts.
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@jimbob3030 , who said pay more to get less? The fact is the US gets the most healthcare out of any nation. For example, we have the most CT scans and MRIs per capita.
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@joananthony6323 , there is an argument to be made in if those advanced care is necessary. But also there are cases of diseases being discovered due to those tests. And in other nations people end up dying being denied those tests. The cases are rare but they exist. In all, it becomes a game of numbers. When you compare universal healthcare systems to our system it becomes a tricky game of numbers that very few are willing to discuss as it throws morals out the window. Maybe M4A is the best system, statistically, but someone has to die. In a M4A case it will be the very sick and elderly just like in other nations.
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@jimbob3030 , not true. We do pay more but many metrics shows we have better quality of care. For example, we offer more CT scans and MRIs per capita. Read the book "In Excellent Health" by Scott Atlas. He outlines how we excel in advanced care and survival rates. You talk about infant mortality rates. The issue there is our high obesity rates which is number 1 of OECD nations. Obesity leads to premature births which increases the chance of infant mortality https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2014/06/obesity-before-pregnancy-linked-to-earliest-preterm-births--stan.html Now add in the fact that obesity is higher for those in poverty and unwanted pregnancies is higher for those in poverty you have outliers the skew the numbers of infant mortality. With life expectancy the issue there is, again, poor lifestyle. We lead the world in obesity rates which increases the chance of an early death https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/overweight-obesity-mortality-risk/ You have to factor that in. Many factors outside of healthcare influence overall life expectancy. And as outlined in this paper even with access to healthcare people's physical health does not improve https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321 A lot of those bad numbers you point to are due to poor lifestyle choices. Under a universal healthcare system people will still have to tough it out. People wait in other nations for issues like heart surgery. In other nations people end up worse off financially, physically and psychologically due to wait times https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3617466/ "Research has also considered the impact of waiting on patients, with findings that those awaiting necessary treatments often face considerable costs. These may be financial if the ability to work is affected and if there is a need to pay for additional care and therapeutics while awaiting treatment. Costs for the health system may arise if patients are not treated in a timely manner and develop more serious conditions or co-morbidities as a consequence of waiting. There may also be quality-of-life impacts, as well as impacts on family or caregivers "
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@jimbob3030 , so even under a universal healthcare system you will still lack care.
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@jimbob3030 , that is all you have? I cited experts in my comment. What do you have?
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