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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Fox News Can't Stop Doing Stale u0026 Dumb 'Left The Left' Segments" video.
Because the political left has become too extreme and it drove people away.
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There are intellectuals on both sides. Just because you don't attend college does not mean they are not an intellectual. In fact, your elitist attitude is one reason why many hate the left.
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Ryne Green, one can argue that receiving a degree in liberal arts is not challenging and those individuals are not intellectuals.
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The political left cannot argue their points. Look at Kyle, instead of giving facts and a deep analysis on them he just says "polls!". Recently the problem is the political left has gone so extreme that if you disagree with them they will dismiss you to the point they label you as a bad person. The political right is more moderate these days but politicians there are too PC. That is why we got Trump. He said what he said and he did not care when those on the left called him racist, a bigot, evil, etc. Until the political left learn how to have discussions many will leave them. They have good ideas to help people, but they have to be moderate in their approach and stop pushing people away who disagree with them.
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Uh, just because someone is on campus does not mean they are an intellectual. Just because someone does not attend college does not mean they are not an intellecutal.
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Zack, being "educated" does not mean being "intelligent".
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Zack, to give an example I am a poor test taker, so I will do poorly on IQ tests. However, I am one of the top researcher in my department. My friend does very well on tests and scored the highest on our qualification exams. However, in hands on research they have yet to produce one paper. I have four in two years.
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Alexander, polls give a snapshot, not a trend. Also, you are polling people on complex issues with vague questions and the people don't understand the issues that well. When more information is given opinions change. Polls are not reliable.
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Sean, vibrational states in molecular systems.
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DynamicWorlds, I add a lot to the discussion. I like how you claim to be open minded but also say that you should ignore me, someone with an opposing view. There are open minded and intelligent people on both sides. There are people who are conservative after they graduate college who are very intelligent. To me, with you comment, it shows how myopic you are. You can't fathom someone being educated and thinking differently than you. In my opinion the more open minded you are the more moderate you are.
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Steven, I dealt with wiccangirl in the past. They are not too bright.
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The problem is that SJWs silence the right which creates and environment of no intelligent discussion. The right has legit opinions but when they try to voice the the left silence them with hate and ridicule and even try to punish them. Kyle is not that bad at that but he has dismissed the other side by claiming that on some issues they have no argument. With that environment many on the right are scared to say something out of fear of being harmed in some way either physically or have their personal life attacked. That is why Trump was elected. Trump did not care so he just said what he wanted to say. People attacked him and he did not care. So he was elected. Until the political left starts having intellectual discussions more people are going to leave them. Kyle is not helping by doubling down on being extreme.
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Kyle's only evidence is the polls while his ultra leftists candidates lose. He has to be one of the dumbest individuals out there.
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VitalVampyr, the polls are vague questions on complex issues. Asking about support for medicare for all while not asking about tax rates, cost, influence on the private sector, etc. is a poll that is not reliable.
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VitalVampyr, Kyle has been showing the same handful of stats and studies the past few years that have been argued against. For example, that 45,000 death stat he brings up has been argued against and a more recent study out of Oregon is a strong case against it. Kyle is hardly scratching the surface on these issues.
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John, I support a better healthcare system, I just feel it requires getting government out of it. "Free public universities" will lower the quality of them.
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nooberrific, I never bring up slavery unless I can justify it.
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Jeremy Manuel, after Obama the political left went more extreme. You had Clinton who just hung out with her celebrity friends and you have Bernie who is as extreme as it gets economically. They were people who could not argue their ideas. Bernie's only attack on Trump was to call him a racist.
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Barry Shitpeas, Bernie is extreme. He wants to completely dismantle the healthcare system and replace it. The US is a nation of 320+ million people with a $18.5 trillion economy where healthcare is 1/6 of that. Pushing to completely replace something that large is extreme.
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Conquering Thought, there are problems in our healthcare system, but there are problems in every system. We need to improve the system we have.
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Conquering Thought, Bernie's plan does remove the system we have. Middle class Americans cannot afford higher taxes plus a private option.
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Ryne Green, most students on campus are moderates. Those who end up going deep in academics do lean left, I agree. That does not mean that there are no intellectuals on the right. Many of them go to the private sector.
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murpz, no. But you have to be honest that a liberal arts degree is not challenging and is a waste of time for the most part.
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Alexander, does 70% support medicare for all? Because close to 80% in Colorado said no when put up to a vote. The majority of the country are moderates or simply don't care. Also, the majority do not understand all of the issues so you can't take their opinions seriously.
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Jesper, those polls are not reliable. Kyle keeps pointing to those polls but most candidates who run on those issues lose.
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Zack, that is not true at all.
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Zack Sherman, I read that study. To start, measuring intelligence is difficult and hard to do with an actual test. A lot of test do not include problem solving or actual life skills. Next, political affiliation is difficult. Some may be conservative economically and socially liberal. Also, correlation does not equal causation. One can argue a correlation between intelligence and income and there is a correlation between higher income and voting republican. Based on the last part of your comment it is clear you are not very intelligent.
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Beaver Ones, more educate people are not left leaning. There is little data to support that. Also, being education does not mean being intelligent. You can have a PhD and be very knowledgeable and productive in your field and be ignorant everywhere else. Being in academics I see this first hand. I come here often and point out a lot of ignorance on the issues coming from people who lean left. In my opinion the more intelligent you are the more moderate you are. You may lean one way or another, but it is slight. Some of the most intelligent people are moderates.
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Beaver Ones, also, that thought process is one reason why people don't like to be associated with the left. They feel "well I am educated so I know better". That isn't always true. Just because you have a degree does not mean you really understand what is going on. A great example I point out is Noam Chomsky. I have read some of his work and listened to him talk and found him to be very ignorant on topics outside of his field. He sounds smart, but to me he isn't. To add, that is not to say he is dumb. I actually feel he is very intelligent, but he just focused on one field and like everyone else has an opinion on others. Intelligence takes many forms.
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Matthew, polls have many shortcomings, most experts agree. Do you really think the opinion of people who are not experts is reliable? Especially when the question is vague?
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Iridion, Colorado is a left leaning state that voted for Bernie in the primaries. These polls are of around 2000 when over 2 million voted, so a larger sample size. Also, 80% saying no is a huge swing from polls saying there is 70% support.
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Overlord, physical chemistry.
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DynamicWorlds, how am I not open minded?
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The problem is that the political left has little desire to talk about policy. They just want to berate and punish people who disagree with them. They have no desire to understand their opponent's position.
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There are a lot of close minded people on the left. In academics the issue is that many professors know their field very well and nothing else. An arts professor will understand the arts well but that does not mean they understand economics. Also, a lot of people with a career in academics rarely interact with the common man and don't realize how people act nor what they really want. It is like the movie Barton Fink. He was a great writer talking about writing about the common man when in reality he was so indulged in his work he really did not understand anything. Same is with professors. There is a lot of regressive opinions from the left as well. These days the political left is talking nonsense which is why many are leaving the left.
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Many on the right have facts on their side. The issue is that the political left is too extreme and can't argue the point. You see that with people like Bernie who can't argue his ideas and only has talking points. Until the left learns how to have intelligent discussions this is going to continue to happen.
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Xavier, in reality at the core the ideas of the left are based on emotions and the ideas of the right are based on facts and reasoning. That is true on economic issues.
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Roscoe Dash, it isn't about people leaving, it is about people respecting your position. You can't respect the left's position when they are dishonest and berate their opponents.
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A lot of facts. Consider healthcare for example and how there are arguments that can be made that expanding healthcare to the poor will not improve their situation. Or how the min. wage does kill jobs. Or facts related to gun violence. Pick a topic and facts do support opinions on the right.
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It is because the political left cannot argue their points, they have become too extreme. If you disagree with them they will label you as evil and feel you need to be punished. They have no desire to have an intellectual conversation and just name call. The political right wants to improve our nation, they just have different ideas in doing so. They are not bad people. However, those on the left label them as bad people as opposed to having a discussion with them and finding a common ground. That is why many are leaving the left. That is why we have Trump. Republicans were too PC to actually say what they want in fear of being attacked. Trump wasn't. The left can have good points, but right now they are too extreme.
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DucksDoctor, the political left cannot argue their points. Bernie is a prime example of that. When pushed he resorts to talking points an lies. He misrepresented the Koch brothers study on Medicare for all. When asked about the min. wage during a town hall in Vegas he went on a talking point rant about a "living wage" without answering the question of how he will prevent prices from going up. When approached by a small business owner about Obamacare he said he did not know much about the hair salon business, which is fine, but he did not have the desire to learn about it. Obamacare was not developed about the Heritage foundation. That is a myth. Reality is the political left right now cannot argue their points. Look up the video from 1994 of Bill Clinton talking to Herman Cain and compare how Clinton talked to Cain to how Bernie Sanders talked to the hair salon owner from Texas during the debate against Cruz. Clinton used actual numbers and data and showed he understood how a business operates and challenges they face. Sanders just saw a business and felt they need to pay up. He had no desire about numbers and data or the challenges they face, he only cared about pushing his ideas.
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Matthew, I listen to Kyle, he is very ignorant. The Oregon study is entitled "The Oregon Experiment-Effects of Medicaid on Clinical Outcomes" The lead author, Katherine Baicker, has argued against the 45,000 number in the past about how it is hard to obtain accurate data on studies like that. Kyle completely ignores those arguments. Kyle completely ignores arguments from opposing viewpoints and just repeats the same things over and over again. I would personally love to debate him on the issues of healthcare and guns alone to show how ignorant he is to his audience. I doubt he would.
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Matthew, if the study is flawed then point out where and give your numbers.
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Matthew, Bernie lied about the study by the Koch brothers. It does not say it would save the American people money. It made assumptions such as prices not going up despite demand going up and saying that healthcare providers will be willing to take a 40% pay cut. Even at that the number they published they admitted was a conservative estimate and chances are it would be much higher. Also, the number was just for public care and does not include private. Your Vox video is flawed in that it does not mention quality, just price.
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Matthew, I also noticed how you did not counter the study I gave you.
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Matt Rogers, the left can argue points, just right now they can't. What is wrong with what I post? I literally posted a study from the New England Journal of Medicine. I am more than willing to have a discussion, problem is that people like you end up calling me a troll or claim that my ideas are bad. How about you and I have a discussion on healthcare and you can see how my attitude really is.
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Steven, these individuals do have the same talking points as Kyle. Eventually when facts are in their face they just call you a troll and ridicule you. Happens to me a lot. That is why people are leaving the left. The left cannot have intelligent discussions.
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krazyknva78, you have to be careful in just looking at percent of GDP in defense spending. Other nations have more government spending in general.
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Most conservatives in college are students who get a degree and move on. Most who are left end up staying in academics and become myopic in their field. There are intelligent people on both sides, they just pursue different goals. The right goes into the private sector and the left goes into academics.
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Uh, not really. Ivy league colleges are very political. It isn't so much about what you know there.
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Eric Taylor, that is not true. In academics people are so in depth in their field they have little knowledge outside of it. People like professors lean left but that is not always a good thing as they know a lot in their field and nothing else. They become very myopic. There are intelligent and knowledgeable people on both sides.
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There are many intelligent people on the right. Hawking is intelligent in his field, but would you take his advice on economics? There are intelligent economists on the right such as Friedman and Thomas Sowell. I would listen to them about economics before I listen to Hawking. I would not consider having Bill Nye on your side a success. You have economists like John B. Taylor, you have physicist Michael Stopa. Reality is there are intellectuals on both sides of the aisle. But of course you will deny that.
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HasanJF, you were saying?
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