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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Great System: Man Battling Cancer Runs Out Of Sick Days" video.
Because we have standards in the US and expect people to be productive.
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Ran Man, that study you are pointing to used many assumptions and still came up with a high number. The number the published was a conservative estimate and chances are medicare for all would cost more. I encourage you to actually read the study.
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Ran Man, that is not what Ben Shapiro will say. But I guess when you have no actual argument against someone you just straw man and ridicule.
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Costco has limited locations and very few employees.
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What you described is the beauty of local communities rising up to help people. That is something many on the right support and the system they want.
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That is why there are sick day banks offered in many jobs, especially in schools. That happens in a lot of school districts in a lot of states. Also, it is very arguable that if they are not healthy they should not be working. And if they can't produce should they even live? This is a tricky topic for people who are very sick and dying. I encourage people to read the book entitled "Being Mortal" by Atul Gawande
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C Wilson, why do you hate gay people?
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C Wilson, I get it, you hate gay people. You feel that ball licking is an insult.
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C Wilson, people have died on waiting lists waiting for "elective" heart surgery in Canada. Facts don't sit well with you bud. that is why you only have insults.
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That endorsement most likely killed his chances of winning. FL would not vote for a candidate supported by Bernie considering Bernie's support for Castro.
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Kyle is as wrong as it gets when it comes to healthcare.
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So what I get from this story is that the community is willing to help out people who are in need. I don't see a problem here.
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SubZeroGallant, I have helped out people in need that I know. I have no problem helping other people out.
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Filipe Saramago, what is productive about giving money away who produce nothing? That is a legit question.
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Black Star having humanity does not change the fact that resources are limited.
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Cross Counter, reality is we are just cogs in a machine. That is a fact. This is why I support more local government. The more local a system is the more people care about each other. You see that here in how teachers are giving away their sick days and having to pick up the slack for him being gone. If you create a federal system you end up being cogs in the machine for your federal overlord.
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Blank Check, defense spending is around 4% of GDP. Healthcare is 1/6 of our GDP. Basic math does not sit well with you.
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The Zero Zero, reality is that resources are limited. You can't just give money away to someone who does not produce. I feel bad for the guy and I hope he receives help but we can't just give money away to him when he does not produce.
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The Zero Zero, no matter how moral you are does not change the fact that resources are limited. Are you going to donate money to him? Are you going to become a doctor and give him free healthcare? What are you doing to help?
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CutThroatJuggalo, I have provided many sources in a lot of my comments in the past. You know this from previous exchanges. Why do you lie?
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Scarlet wings, define "need". In many nations people have died on waiting lists waiting for "elective" surgery. In Canada people have died waiting for "elective" heart surgery. Read the paper entitled "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare up to 7000 people die waiting for "elective" surgery. Even if they don't die many end up worse off financially because they can't work or physically and mentally. For example, I need to be on my feet a lot to work. If I get a knee injury I want it fixed quickly to I can get back to work. But since that is not "life threatening" I would have wait in a socialized system limiting how much I can work hurting myself financially. Also, over time the injury can get worse. Read the paper entitled "Waiting for elective surgery: effects on health-related quality of life" This issue is not easy to deal with. It isn't as easy as saying who "needs" care.
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Dave Ponsford, that is a topic that very debatable. Not about mass slaughter but the actual challenges of the very sick who are near the end of their life. I encourage people to read the book entitled "Being Mortal" by Atul Gawande. The reality is this, you like most people are amazed by modern medicine and feel that we can keep people alive for another 10, 15 or 20 years. There is a moral and emotional side in keeping people alive even though they produce nothing and end up being a drain on valuable, and limited resources. And people do so thinking they can live for another decade, or even more. However, reality is that chances are they will live for only a few years more at best. Medicine has limitations, that is the reality. There is no magic wand to cure everyone. People die. Resources are limited. You are looking at this one case and trying to use it as an example of how terrible the US healthcare system is when in every nation they face many problems as well. This man's case is an extreme case. In other nations he would be suffering just as much, if not more. You people need to really read up on healthcare if you are going to have a strong opinion on it and start thinking logically and not so emotionally all the time. Doing so will actually progress us on the issue.
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CutThroatJuggalo, I just wrote a comment citing two papers and a book.
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Lexort 420, I just cited a book and two papers in a comment. I have read up on the healthcare issue a lot. Healthcare is very complex. Modern medicine has gotten us a long way, but reality is there are still limitations. People hear are thinking emotionally and not logically. Desire is limitless, but resources aren't. It would be great if there was some machine to instantly make this guy better, but that does not exist. I feel bad for this guy but you have to think logically. Looking at one story is not an argument for or against any healthcare system. I read these comments and I see a high level of ignorance. I am all for improving the healthcare system but in order to do so you have to be informed and think logically and not emotionally all the time.
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TheLokiToki, so accepting the reality that resources are limited and magic does not exist makes me a cunt?
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Dave, I understand there are problems in the US healthcare system, and I am more than willing to discuss them. The reality is that other nations have problems as well and when you break it down the US is on par with other nations. There isn't a strong argument that switching to a single payer system or a medicare for all system would actually improve what we have now. To me we have to improve the system we have now, not completely dismantle it. That is my issue overall. It is how dishonest or ignorant people are about the healthcare issue. They claim the US system is terrible and praise other nations while ignoring numerous facts and variables.
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Dave, it won't be cheaper. I am more than willing to discuss, but to do that you have to be honest. Medicare for all will not be cheaper. You cannot increase demand and expect prices to go down. Yes, bankruptcy is a problem, but in other nations they have lower quality of care. Something has got to give. And yes, the system will have to be dismantle. How healthcare providers get pay, how much they charge, what services they give, etc. will all change dramatically.
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Dave, that study does not say that. That study said the number they published was a conservative estimate and chances are the cost would be much higher. That study gave the price for public spending only and does not include private. That study assumed that healthcare providers would be willing to take a 40% pay cut and prices will not go up despite demand going up. As a whole that study produced a number on the low end and the value was still high. The US healthcare is expensive due to government regulations.
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Dave, did you even read that study?
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Dave, you have not read the studies, or you can't think for yourself. I have. None of them says that Medicare for all is cheaper.
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