Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "For Profit Healthcare Has Lead To Disturbing 'Patient Dumping'" video.

  1. Ok, break this down. You have one incident here. Next, this is in a major city where in any major city there is a lack of resources, and it isn't money, it is lack of hospital beds, doctors, nurses, etc. And this is a major city that has been at a decline. Also, this is a homeless person. Is that the hospital's fault? Issues like this happen in socialized healthcare systems as well.
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  2. Except we do not have a capitalist healthcare system.
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  3. Hospitals are not homeless shelters.
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  4. "the patient will usually be homeless or mentally unfit and has been medically cleared by the doctor." That is the key, they have been cleared and are homeless. At that point hospitals are out of options. Why? Because we lack doctors, nurses, equipment, etc. in healthcare due to how complex it is. I feel bad for the people but we can't just give up precious resources to people who do not produce much. There is a stopping point.
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  5. urduib, nice rebuttal. I am going to now re-think my life. I am going to write my will and donate all of my assets now to poor children in Africa just by your intelligent comment.
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  6. TheUltimateBeing01, she received healthcare. After that they are done with you. It is up to you to go home.
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  7. "So what do you suggest? throwing them out like trash?" Point her to a homeless shelter and send her on her way. That is all you can do. You can't just leave her in the hospital where space is limited.
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  8. "She didn't receive therapy, moron" I never mentioned therapy.
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  9. TheUltimateBeing01, I get it. Hospitals should take on homeless people with the common cold as well and say screw the cancer patient.
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  10. I don't know. We haven't had one in over 50 years.
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  11. Angel Santiago, that comparison is legit. Someone has to provide healthcare just like someone has to provide the furniture. It just doesn't exist. If the procedure is rare or limited it will cost more, period. Same with furniture. If one cannot understand that basic concept then we cannot have a discussion on the healthcare issue.
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  12. Flevir, here are some sources for you to read "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “   Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart   “Too many patients with cancer die in acute care hospitals despite palliative options: report" CMAJ   “Incapacity for work in elective orthopaedic surgery: a study of occurrence and the probability of returning to work after treatment.”  J Epidemiol Community Health “The Ethics and Reality of Rationing in Medicine” Chest
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  13. Flevir, people do die on waiting lists.
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  14. Another reason why those European countries survive is that many actually drill for oil and they have stricter immigration laws. The latter is starting to not be so as some countries, like Sweden, are seeing an immigration problem. But as a whole they drill for oil and restrict immigration, something leftists in this country do not want to do.
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  15. Lilsanders, so a person who refuses to live a healthy lifestyle and is 500 pounds should be equal in terms of healthcare received as someone who lives a healthy lifestyle?
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  16. Right to work states have lower unemployment rates.
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  17. It isn't so much paying the doctors, how do you increase the supply of doctors?
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  18. John Keim, Med schools have less than a 50% acceptance rate.
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  19. "Then perhaps we have to take the profit motive out of med schools as well." It isn't about profit motive. It is about med school being very challenging and having high standards.. Being a doctor is stressful and not everyone is fit for it. Many that are do not want to do it as they do not want to live that stressful lifestyle.
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  20. TheUltimatebeing01, again, med schools have less than 50% acceptance rate. That means more than half of people who apply are not qualified.
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  21. Volodos reads these papers "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “   Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart   “Too many patients with cancer die in acute care hospitals despite palliative options: report" CMAJ   “Incapacity for work in elective orthopaedic surgery: a study of occurrence and the probability of returning to work after treatment.”  J Epidemiol Community Health “The Ethics and Reality of Rationing in Medicine” Chest
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  22. Volodos, Canada faces many problems as well.
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  23. Did she need medical attention? That is the question. This could be a case that she is just homeless and received her care.
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  24. "No one dies of lack of coverage in other modern countries. " Read these peer reviewed papers, also, this women did not die. "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “   Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart   “Too many patients with cancer die in acute care hospitals despite palliative options: report" CMAJ   “Incapacity for work in elective orthopaedic surgery: a study of occurrence and the probability of returning to work after treatment.”  J Epidemiol Community Health “The Ethics and Reality of Rationing in Medicine” Chest
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  25. "no they don't, not like this. Why? Because the city itself can still be poor as fuck, but the government will still cover this person's stay at the hospital." She received her care and was sent on her way. She is homeless, so do you want hospitals to be homeless shelters as well? That takes up hospital beds that are limited for people with actual issues. Fact is we have limited resources in healthcare, every country does. This happens in other countries.
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  26. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2884271/The-queue-shames-Britain-7-11am-desperate-patients-wait-cold-dark-outside-surgery-just-seen-GP.html
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  27. Geralt of Rivia, thanks. Now should this hospital pointed her to a shelter? I say yes, that is something I support. If she goes or not that is another issue. Did they? I do not know. If they did then that is on that women. Look, I feel bad, but reality is we can't just let someone like that take up space that is limited. There is only so much we can do.
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  28. DHSNAKE, define "save lives". She got her care. It is on her to find the shelter. If she is homeless is that the hospital's fault?
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  29. "Besides, I’m pretty sure if we got Medicaid for all, it’d be paid for by the federal government, not just have the states burdened with the cost." It isn't about money, it is about limited doctors. You say we can allow immigrants to come. We do. People do not want to be doctors.
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  30. urduib, I have no clue if she came naked. Maybe her close were dirty and had to be thrown away. Who knows. But again, hospitals are not homeless shelters. She got here care. Maybe she refused to leave and they had to force her.
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  31. "They could have transported her to a shelter then." Hospitals are not taxi services either. You seem to be confused with what a hospital actually does.
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  32. Also, Sweden has some of the worse wait times in Europe. It isn't doing that great.
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  33. DHSNAKE, she go the care she needed. That's it. Send her on her way. What if she refused to leave? You force them out. Again, hospitals are not homeless shelters. "And why did they take her back? " Pressure to make themselves look good. Nothing is going to change. " a hospital reception can manage to call taxi if the person can't do it them selves" What if they can't pay? Then what?
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  34. So arrest them and increase our prison population?
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  35. So you support free taxi services as well.
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  36. You can compare healthcare to furniture because in the end someone has to provide it. The more rare the healthcare service is the more expensive. If you increase the demand for healthcare without increasing the supply the price goes up, just like furniture.
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  37. True. What I see here is a case of a women who got the care and was released. She is homeless from what I saw. Is that the hospital's fault? Also, it isn't lack of money, it is lack of beds, doctors, nurses, etc.
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  38. "No one should have to pay just so they can get healthy or live." Reality is that it cost something. It takes someone's services to make you healthy in a hospital. Do you want doctors to work for free?
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  39. Jimi Hendrix is right. She was healthy but also homeless. Hospitals are not homeless shelters.
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  40. Yep, take economic advise from a preacher that plagiarized his thesis.
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  41. This_is_a_Conundrum, if you can't afford healthcare you don't get it. Only time you will are in cases of emergencies in the ER. Beyond that you move along. This would happen in countries with universal healthcare as as she received care as is stable. They move on to someone who needs it in critical care.
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  42. "You really don't know how hospitals function if you think they have ever had to choose between a person with a cold and a cancer patient." I do know how they function. The point is that hospitals are not homeless shelters. People are angered by this when this person appeared to be homeless. They received care, you send them on their way as spaces are limited. It seems like people want hospitals to take on homeless people which will mean cancer patients will not get the care they need.
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  43. "A synonym for healthcare is "therapy" dumb ass...." Which has time limits. Unless you are placed in a mental institution you receive a therapy session and move on.
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  44. "she was being treated for her condition and ejected from the hospital prematurely" How was it premature? Again, therapy usually has time limits.
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  45. J207, try suing the government. Many have tried suing the NHS and failed.
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