Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "BROKEN Healthcare System Leads To Very Painful Anesthesia-Free Surgery" video.

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  14.  @ugeofaltron5003  , saying M4A will save money is simply flaw. I feel you are trying to respond to me. To start, that "opinion piece" cited other studies. If it is wrong than point out where. And Bernie is just a politician. He has a motive. But let us get to cost. On the one that says it will save $2 million they are assuming an immediate 40% pay cut, you can't predict what will happen to access and quality. Look at the 6 minute mark here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e893Ky7iM6Y&t=376s You can't just throw out a number and expect it to mean anything. You also can't just change our healthcare system that much and not expect changes. As for the PERI study, it has several flaws. As pointed out in that article one is overhead cost. They claim medicare has lower overhead cost. Problem is that Medicare passes many costs onto other agencies like the CDC and IRS. Also, Medicare funds for older people who require more healthcare and thus more of their spending will go towards healthcare. Compare it to this, say you spend $3,000 a month and I spend $2,000 a month. And say I spend $1000 on rent and you spend $1000 on rent. Yes, you spend a smaller portion of your income on rent but you pay more as a whole. Next, that study factors in people losing their jobs and having to move to find new ones. The numbers they show appear to be made up. They assume that the market will not change. If you force people to leave one area and move to another prices will change. People's homes prices will drop causing them to lose on their investment and the places they move two will see an increase in home pricing. Also, they don't factor in the psychological aspect of moving. I am facing that right now in considering a job in a different state. I am content and comfortable with where I am at. Moving is difficult to some, and harder for those with kids. But that PERI study treats people as pawns. As for the Rational National, I have watched him and he is worse than Kyle. You see, I actually read these sources and break them down. I just don't dismiss them. But back to Bernie being another politician, that is what he is. He is a politician with a motive. And that PERI study is done by people who, as Jonathan Gruber put it, are taking advantage of useful idiots. I suggest you dig deeper and develop a strong argument.
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  34.  @adithyasathya2578  , a public option should not be the main source for people. It should be a last resort and thus of low quality. I used a public option for a STD check up one time in my city. It was low cost but the service sucked. I went to one building to answer questions and the had to take a form to another building and waited 5 hours before I went to pee in a cup and get blood drawn. A year later I used my insurance and went to a private option and within 30 minutes I drove there, signed in, peed in a cup, got blood drawn, and was at home eating breakfast. If I were to have paid out of pocket I would have cost more but would have been better. The public option should be a last resort. We should encourage people to get better and not depend on the government. Also, with a free market system drug and healthcare prices will drop. A major problem we have is that people don't actually pay for healthcare. Let me ask you this. Why do so many employers pay their employees with healthcare as opposed to a higher wage? And why does healthcare insurance pay for all of healthcare? The main reason is because of the payroll tax. If we did not have that than people will pay for healthcare insurance out of pocket. At that healthcare insurance will be insurance and will pay for only unplanned, expensive cases. Everything else would be paid for out of pocket. So in my STD checkup case, I can shop around and find the cheapest option. With transparent pricing and me deciding where I can go the price will drop. And the price of insurance will drop as all it will pay for is unplanned, expensive cases. The public option can differ by area, but essentially with the private market lowering prices the public option can be in many forms. It can either be a government run service with low quality like I experienced. Or it can be, for people below a certain income level, similar to food stamps where the government pays for certain things. The free market in food has allowed for food prices to be low and to be a lot of food available. I don't support the Canada's system as it forces the local areas to establish something. I see no difference between that and a centralized system. And as we have seen in programs like the Community Mental Health Act the states will simply refuse and force the federal government to pick up the system. As for your criticisms of my system 1. There won't be a pool. The free market will drive down costs. The government either picks up the tab for low income people or offer a service that is of low quality. Ever been in line for food stamps? The line is long. Or the post office, the service sucks. This whole "risk pool" thing is a flawed argument. A lot of healthcare can be paid for out of pocket to begin with. The whole "risk pool" idea is a major thought process to have in healthcare. It is what Obamacare was designed on and it has shown to fail 2. This happens anyway. In mental health if you are a psychologist and work in a rural area for 10 years you get your student loan paid off, all of it. Why? Because they lack doctors in those area. Rural areas lack resources to begin with. Just because the federal government says they will provide something doesn't mean they can't. If no one wants to work in a certain area they won't. Or to get them to they have to raise the incentive, such as paying them more which will end up costing M4A even more. Fact is those areas are simply use to limited resources. One major problem I have with the far left is that they are on the outside looking in and don't realize people in certain areas don't want your help. But as a whole, M4A won't solve this problem unless you pay a lot of money. 3. It depends on the area. In rural areas, where I am from, local charities were fine. In more urban areas maybe not. Again, it depends. That is why I want the local communities to decide on their own. There are many ways to approach this. 4. Insurance companies counter the inelastic nature of some forms of healthcare. Other forms are not inelastic. Compare it to a car. Oil changes and new tires are necessary to keep the car safe. Insurance does not cover that as you can shop around. But if a tree falls on your car insurance will cover that. That is not planned and you don't have time to shop around. Healthcare insurance should be the same. Problem is that healthcare insurance in this nation, since a lot of people receive insurance as a form of payment, covers almost all of healthcare which creates many problems and high prices. So the inelastic argument is poor as insurance is the counter for that. 5. The private sector has far less bureaucracies and people can decide which doctors they want
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  39.  @Luna_otVM  , if Kyle wants better healthcare than he needs to dig deeper. How come he doesn't read stuffy by Prof. Scott Atlas or Katherine Baicker such as this? http://keithhennessey.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Kate-Baicker.pdf To improve something you have to look at the whole issue and both sides of the situation. .Kyle does not do that. He looks at a handful of stats and spews the same talking points over and over again. He has no real argument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl_2J391hZc&t=590s Fast forward to the 8:50 mark. The reality is that Kyle feels under M4A that we will have the same quality but at a lower price that the government pays for it. You can't say that. Reality is something has to give. Just like under Obamacare people lost their healthcare insurance, something will change. Also, Kyle claims M4A is popular but it does not pass. Reality is that on the surface it may be popular but when you show the tax rates and show how healthcare as people know it changes, it is no longer popular. Maybe M4A is a better system, but you have to have an honest conversation here. You have to look at the full story and not just cherry pick it. I find it scary how I come here and gives links to many studies and suggest many books and people just dismiss them. You follow Kyle who is not an expert here and when I point people to actual experts I get dismissed As the title of the video I linked said, people are afraid of democratic socialist because, despite their shallow ideas, they will win elections which will harm our nation.
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  59.  @underside483  , I disagree with being centralized. A centralized system lowers competition and innovation. It may work in smaller nations like Germany, but for the US of over 320+ million people I feel it can't. A centralized system, to me, creates these problems. 1. Lack of competition 2. Lack of micromanaging 3. Lack of improvement. On the last part where is the incentive and comparison to improve? To me with states and local governments managing it if one state does some creative thing to improve healthcare other states can follow if they so desire. But at a centralize lever there is no comparison. Germany, from what I can tell, has a private sector to compare to. But supporters of M4A want to do away with that. I compare it to education. Compare NV to MA. NV has low education results. Many blame the system but in NV you can earn a nice living work for the Casinos, working in the mines or working construction. Where is the incentive to get educated when you can make $80,000 a year parking cars? That is why there are only two four year universities in NV and why the society there does not value education as high. Now compare to MA which is home of MIT, Boston College, Harvard, etc. They have more four year colleges per capita than NV, and some of the most prestigious. They value education there as a society and thus their education outcomes are higher. In comparing those two states it is not an issue of system but an issue of culture. That is why I support some government being involved in healthcare, but it should be at the state and local level. Across the nation the idea of how much taxes should be paid, what level should government provide, how should they do it, etc. differs. A centralized system cannot account for that. One thing that irritates me is that people try to compare the US to Norway where we have 30 states larger than Norway. It is hard to compare.
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  69.  @magnummax78  , it does prove about waiting list, people do die waiting for "elective" heart surgery. Bottom line is that in every nation people do die due to shortcomings in the healthcare system. As for learning they need the care I assume you are talking about preventative care and check ups. A study showed that even with access to healthcare people's physical health did not change. While they were made more aware of their conditions their physical health did not improve making them a high risk for bad health. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321 People are typically in bad health due to poor life style choices. That is a major problem in the US that M4A will not cure based on that study. I understand the goal of M4A, the reality is that those goals are not attainable. You have to change, and by that I mean lower your standard of healthcare. In the UK people are going blind due to the NHS refusing to offer eye surgery. Here is the bottom line. A system like the US does well for the very sick at the expense of the very poor. A universal system does well for the very poor at the expense of the very sick. Universal healthcare systems are great for very basic needs and it does offer healthcare to the very poor, but the very sick suffer. In the US the poor do go bankrupt and some do die due to having no insurance. But our survival rates are much higher for the very sick. Something has to give. To go deeper the very sick in other nations are old at times, such as the individuals going blind are because the UK denying cataract where most who have that are old. Those dying due to "elective" heart surgery in Canada are typically old. Maybe that is the route we need to take. Also, in the US we have higher survival rates because we offer advanced testing, such as we offer more CT scans. A major problem I have with M4A supporters is that they are not willing to have difficult discussions like that. What do we do with the elderly and very sick? At what point do we stop offering advanced testing? M4A supporters want the luxury of the quality of our current system but the security of Medicare paying for it. You can't have that. The far left refuses to have difficult discussions on this issue. The reason why M4A is not gaining traction in the US is because the far left is not presenting these challenges and when, months later, they are presented people question the political left at that point. Be honest, that is my suggestion.
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