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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Occupy Abolishes Nearly $4 Million In Student Debt" video.
To answer Kyle's question, the government is flawed in that politicians are people seeking power. The less power we can give them the better. We need society to take care of problems in our country and the federal government to deal with foreign issues. Kyle has no problem expanding the federal government but when it causes problems then he complains about it. Fact is that you can't have it both ways.
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Occupy Wall Street was nothing more than a bunch of lazy disgruntle 20 year olds that had nothing better to do after Burning Man. It accomplished nothing.
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Keith Voltaire Why stop at healthcare? Why not free transportation? People don't get jobs because they can't get there in time. Why not free food? Why not a free home? There are more important "necessities" than healthcare and education. Education is not even a necessity. With the government providing that but not free food seems like education is more indoctrination.
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Keith Voltaire And unlike every other industrialized country the US is ranked ahead in all of them in education, productivity, science and technology development and healthcare quality. You can't consume what you don't produce. Those tax dollars are not going to appear out of thin air. You have to develop capital first.
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Keith Voltaire One, those engineers and scientists chose to go to college and study those programs on their own. Another is that public schools with Common Core and NGSS are really pushing for those programs and disregard creativity such as art or PE. Great scientists and engineers were creative. It wasn't that they were so good at math and science. Creativity is what brings progress and public schools do kill creativity. It is indoctrination. Funny part is that I am a scientist myself. I am pursuing my PhD in physical chemistry. So I am one of those scientists you talk about.
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Keith Voltaire You will be healthy if you have healthy food to constantly eat. We can't have those goods and services if people can't get to their jobs. Some people don't work because they simply can't get to work. Free public transportation would work. Also it will limit time walking to work for some so they can spend more time educating themselves. You see they are more of a necessity than healthcare and education.
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Keith Voltaire Ironically those countries you mentioned don't deal with the same issues we do. We have a larger population than them and more diversity. Take Norway for example. Hop on a plane in Oslo and in two hours you are in London. Hop on a plane in Minneapolis, MN and in two hours you are in TX. Two different states with a larger population than Norway, but you are still in the same country. Wages don't matter, purchasing power is what matters. Look at Zimbabwe, in their currency they making billions but have an 80% poverty rate. In European countries they have less purchasing power and more debt per capita. It is all artificial. The US is number 1 in responsive care. We actually provide high quality care in the US. The only problem is cost which is due to government actions. In other countries they ration out their care leaving others to wait months for MRIs and surgery or in the UK give birth in bathrooms due to lack of hospital beds. Once again there are more important necessities than healthcare. Healthcare means nothing if you don't live a healthy life due to lack of access to healthy food. Development of capital drives an economy, not healthcare. A government providing healthcare is an easy route for them to take to give the illusion that they care, they don't as I shown there are other necessities more important they don't provide as in a home or healthy food. And education is important but doesn't necessarily needs to be provided by the government. Our university system for the most part is private and is number 1 in the world.
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Keith Voltaire What correlation to wages and purchasing power? West Virginia is 49th in median household income but is number 1 in home ownership. CA is number 10 in median income but is number 1 in poverty and near the bottom in home ownership. The idea that higher wages means higher purchasing power is not true. The purchasing power of the dollar is key. You have to understand that concept and what money is in general first.
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Keith Voltaire The average household income of individuals earning $9.50/hr or less is over $47,000/yr. That is because they are second earners of a household. Of those making $9.50/hr or less close to 80% of them are not poor. Those making $6 to $9 per hour are for the most part not poor. My point on homeownership is that the purchasing power of the dollar is great in an area like WV thus you can have a low income and still own a home. Compare that to CA where you have a higher income but still be a renter or even be in poverty. The purchasing power of the dollar is key. There will always be demand, people will always demand better goods and services. Businesses know this and will push to give the best good or service at an affordable price. You can't consume what you don't produce. Giving people more money isn't going to help if capital isn't created to begin with. All that does is lead to higher prices. Money is essentially worthless until it is invested. When you give money away you ruin it's value and thus businesses are forced to sell their good or service at a greater price since now there a greater supply of money. Paying someone $15/hr instead of $10/hr to produce the same amount of capital just lower the value of money so that what you use to be able to buy with $10 will now cost $15.
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Keith Voltaire Demand will always exist, that is a fact. People naturally will demand better goods and services. Businesses will invest to meet that demand. I never said demand was irrelevant I just said that it would always exist. I said that there are other necessities in life. Healthcare is worthless if you can't even work a job. If you can't get to a job or food or to your healthcare than your life is done. So if you offer healthcare but someone can't get to it then what is the point? The top 10% pay 70% of taxes. Most people making less than $10/hr are not poor.
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Keith Voltaire What facts am I denying? You talk about healthcare as it is so important and it is. The problem is that we can't have healthcare if we don't have anyone to produce it and there are more important necessities than healthcare. If you can't access healthcare due to lack of transportation or time there is no point. If you have no home or heat or proper food than what is the point? Great, the government provides healthcare. Now who is going to produce it (we simply don't have enough doctors or hospitals) and what is going to happen if you don't have a home or a job or a car and so on. I am no venturing off topic. You brought up healthcare and education. You feel that the government needs to provide it. You thinking is flawed. One, who is going to provide it? As I said we don't have enough doctors to cover everyone. Another, why do you want the federal government to control two huge parts of people's lives? That is how corrupt governments and fascist governments become created. You feel as it the government can do no wrong when there are numerous examples in how they do. I did have it easy in life compared to some because I had friends and family that cared for me. I also worked to provide for myself. The harsh reality is that if you can't provide for yourself and you don't have friends/family to care for you and help you out than what are you worth to society? It may sound harsh but it is the truth.
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Wolf King It was expressing their anger at the wrong place. They should express their anger at Washington. If the federal government didn't have power than it couldn't be bought by Wall Street. Most people in occupy wanted bigger government when it was big government that started the problem to begin with.
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ThePharphis If the federal government didn't have the power to begin with than it wouldn't be able to be bought.
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ThePharphis If the federal government had no power to begin with than it can't be bought.
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