Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Joe Walsh: US Can't Have Medicare For All Because Of 'Diversity' u0026 'Inner Cities'" video.

It isn't hypocrisy. There is a lot that is involved in healthcare beyond the system. The US is more diverse than countries like Norway and Denmark. Even at that you look at Norway and they fund their programs with oil and you look at Denmark and they had mandatory military. That plays a role in their healthcare outcomes. These rankings people come up with are asinine.
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Hal, black people are more violent. And people die for lots of reasons. Stop being racist.
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Hal, I am stating a statistical fact. That does not make me racist. What makes you racist is denying it.
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You can legally own a tank and an aircraft. They are just very expensive and are hard to find. That is why no one owns them (for the most part, some people own tanks).
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It is true, the US is very diverse. You can't compare the US to those other countries that are much smaller than us and less diverse. Many factors influence healthcare beyond the healthcare system.
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It is easier to micromanage programs the less diverse the population is and smaller it is. Different culture means different practices in lifestyles and different economies.
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kallebaah0, Norway funds a lot of their programs with oil.
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Dan Ryan, different cultures means different lifestyle practices and thus different levels of health. Who is going to lead a healthier life? People who work in the mines in NV or people who work tech jobs in Silicon Valley? That is just one of many examples.
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Mike Lopez, what suggests I will ever back Pinochet?
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Raizhen010, what does black people have to do with this? Do you think all inner cities are full of black people? Do you feel that all black people just live in the inner cities and are poor? Are you like Bernie Sanders and feel that white people can't be poor or live in the ghetto? I find that to be very racist.
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Raizhen010, you said blacks, not Walsh. That shows where your mind is at right now. I criticize republicans all the time. When I was in MO I could not support Todd Akin for his asinine remark. I was critical about Bush for leading us into a bad war which is why Jeb lost. The reality is that the left has gone insane. They have become radical on their policies to where they had not legit criticism of Trump besides calling him a sexist and racist.
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"That's exactly what I said and it was referencing Joe Walsh stating we can't have universal health because of diverse inner city populations. This is a dog whistle for blacks. " No it's not. To you it is because you, like most of the left, has the argument of calling republicans racist. That is all you have which is why democrats lost. " While Trump certainly has said horrendous things regarding women in the past and has a questionable past when it comes to racism" No he doesn't. Trump allowed a black woman to live in one of his hotels for free to protect her after her family was murder. "They should point out him claiming to be for universal coverage and yet endorsing a healthcare bill that would cost 24 million people their insurance and they should be offering their own alternative that would be universal coverage. " It is impossible to cover every, period. Obamacare was a mess and needs to be replaced (in reality we should not have had federal reform to begin with, but that is another debate). So we have to ease off of Obamacare and progress to better options. " Attack him for endorsing tax cuts for the wealthy " He is cutting taxes for everyone. " while people in Flint Michigan and elsewhere in the country don't even have clear water to drink" And that is a problem for Flint and those other cities to fix. That is not a problem for the federal government to fix. "Go after him for appointing the swamp to his cabinet." He didn't do that. " There is so much material to use against Trump, but the Democrats don't take advantage of it," Because the democrats could not run on their own policies as they did not work.
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Dan, I agree that eventually we will have universal healthcare in this country. That does not mean it is the best solution. I am just saying it will eventually happen. And like Medicare and Medicaid and SS it will be a mess and lose money. No country guarantees healthcare to their citizens as it is impossible. There are many shortcomings with universal healthcare and when you break it down you will see that universal healthcare is no better than what the US has.
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Dan Ryan, people profit off of everything. People profit off of hunger, the need for a home, the need for clothes and warm, etc. You profit off of others as well. But for some reason you feel that healthcare should be different? Medicare is a mess. It is running out of money. "other countries guarantee access to healthcare," No. No country guarantees that. Every country rations. Due to lack of supply you can't give healthcare to everyone and people have died because of the shortcomings of universal healthcare. " I have spoken to many people from other countries who can assure you that their healthcare system is better than ours." And so have I. And they say the US system is better. So what's your point? " I encountered a British bicyclist in a forest preserve near my home who had broken his arm and asked for the nearest hospital. He was shocked to find out he would have to pay out of pocket since he had no insurance." So now you support giving healthcare to non-tax paying foreigners? "the british healthcare system is rated number one in the world" Those rankings are arbitrary.
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AlphaMikeOmega, no one is suggesting to completely private. There has to be a balance as too much government is just as bad as no government. In the US we have the advantage of having states where the states can have their own form of healthcare reform. There is a desire to have government as long as it serves the people and not becomes the masters. You do that by keeping government as local as possible. The more local government is the more control you have over it. There are advantages of a for profit system and there are advantages of a government system of some kind. But to go to a complete universal healthcare system in a country of 327+ million people is not a solution and is too much government. "and metrics such as life expectancy" There are several factors that play a role in life expectancy. Two professors showed that if you simply remove car accidents and murders than the US is number one in life expectancy. https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf Now that is not to say that the US is number one in life expectancy. What it says is that there are many factors that influence life expectancy beyond healthcare. And that when you change a variable or two you get different results since the differences between each country is so minute. The average life expectancy in the world is 71±7 years. The US is one standard deviation above that. And other countries are within 7 years from the US. That difference at that point is noise. The same is with other statistics. That book runs through the numbers. But sticking to life expectancy, if the difference between the US and the UK was 15 years or so than you have an argument. But it is only a few years so at that point it is simply noise as you can't pinpoint what is causing that change. Is it healthcare? Is it lifestyle choices? It is murders and car accidents? We cannot say with certainty. That is why these healthcare rankings are arbitrary. It isn't so much that the US is better. I will never say that. But you can't say universal healthcare is better as nothing indicates that is the case. That is the point. So many people get fooled into those rankings without thinking at all about them. "It is also different from how Rand Paul portrayed it when he compared it to slavery, saying that you'd have the right to doctors' labour: " Saying it is a right means you are guaranteed those services. In the US you have a right to defense and to a jury. If you are called to jury duty and refuse you go to jail. If you are drafted and refuse you go to jail. If you join the military and try to leave before your service is done you go to jail. While that may not be the case in the UK it is in the US.
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" Single payer is more efficient and cheaper as we have seen in all those other countries that pay less and have better outcomes." That is not true. While they pay less they do not get better outcomes by any statistical measure. " I must have missed the movements in all those other countries to switch to an American style system," And there are no movements to switch to the system other countries have. " Your hero Trump praised Scotland's system saying a friend of his was golfing there and broke a bone which was treated free of charge. " What's your point? You are misrepresenting what Trump said. While he said their system is good he is not saying universal healthcare is the best system we can have. "We ration healthcare here, but we do it based on income rather than need which is immoral and unethical." How so? If I work hard and place myself in a position to afford healthcare, why should I have to wait? " and taxation and perhaps a small increase in taxes for the wealthiest people in America would ensure that Medicare is fully funded and everyone is covered. " And when it runs out of money again, then what? Even under Bernie's plan it was projected to run out of money eventually. Do you raise taxes again? When do you stop raising taxes?
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The US spends more on education and social welfare programs then they do on defense. Also, you can't compare the US to Finland. Even Sir Ken Robinson admits to that.
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The US spends around 18% of the federal budget on defense. When compared to education defense spending is only around 4% of GDP. Education, when you combine state and local spending as well, is much higher. And social welfare programs is much larger in terms of defense spending.
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". Inner City = Code for Black." Only if you are racist. But I bet you feel that if you are white you can't be poor.
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harvest1492, you are really stretching it here. This is why the democrats keep losing. To you everything is about race.
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Hal, when I hear inner cities I think of people in poverty. When you hear inner cities you think of black people because you are racist. Also, there is a correlation between black population and violent crime rate.
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Hal, he said inner cities. You are the one who feels that black people live in an area that typically has higher crime and less income. How racist of you.
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Janusha, an arm is a gun. So yes, gun ownership is a right. A "well regulated militia" meant well prepared.
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Aaron, the US has 327+ million people spread over a large area. None of those countries mentioned have a diversity that is comparable to ours. Live in one state and then move 2000 miles to another one years later. The differences are noticeable. And if you do not see them then you are anti-social.
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Mckenzie .Latham, it has an effect on healthcare and any policy. The more people you add the harder it is to get people to agree on things and it is harder to micromanage. Some factors that influence healthcare beyond the system is simply the culture. Diet, exercise habits, daily routines, etc. You try to compare use to Denmark where Denmark had mandatory military for years. That plays a role in how people act. This is the problem with liberals. They feel that every solution is simple. Just create universal healthcare and all will be better. Things are never that simple. And when someone brings that up liberals get offended and act like children. I do not say this to be rude but instead to point out the truth.
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Aaron, I do not "keep on bringing this strawman up" when dealing with liberals. Look at their policies. To help the poor all we have to to is raise the min. wage. To fund our programs all we have to do is raise taxes on the rich. To give healthcare to everyone all we have to do is allow the federal government to provide it. It is not that simple. How does diversity impact healthcare? European countries run their own programs. Even with universal healthcare there are different ways in approaching it. What is the best way? It will differ from state to state all because of the culture being different. We could not get 60 senate democrats to agree on one healthcare bill for the longest time during Obama's first year.
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Different economies. Different lifestyles. There are several ways have healthcare reform. Now how do you do it? Also, do those people even want it to begin with? That is the major one. If a state does not want it than why should they have it?
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Diversity affects everything. Not every state would want universal healthcare. In terms of economics states run their economies differently due to the people that live there and the resources. In my home state it is unconstitutional to have a storage tax. As a result we have a lot of warehouses in my state. In Iowa they do not have a tax on food. The differences in the economies of each states are different. There is a reason why the states run K-12 education and not the federal government. The discussion on on diversity.
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Aaron, what are you even talking about? I understand all of that. But you have a few things wrong. To keep it simple I will point out the flaw in point 2. An increase in demand does not always mean an increase in supply. If no one is there to supply a good or service than it will cease to exist, period.
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There is a lot of psychology in economics as well. Take Utah for example. Alcohol sales will do poorly there because of the Mormon culture. In NV, because of the gambling culture, they do well there and people are used to it. But in other states not so much. Look at how hard it is to make marijuana legal because many people look down on it. The culture influences the economy. There are people who do not feel that government is the best source for healthcare and like the private option. In Colorado around 80% of voters felt that way. And if they support healthcare reform how is questionable.
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Not everyone views the government as being the best source in providing something. Some places have private fire departments or toll roads for example. The same is in healthcare. Also, different cultures lead to different lifestyles in terms of health.
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