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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "British People SHOCKED By American Healthcare Prices" video.
We are leading the world in R&D. We also lead the world in survival rates of advance illnesses and access to advanced care and testing.
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Kyle is far from brilliant.
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So Kyle's argument against people who have legit arguments against universal healthcare is to say they are lying? Kyle is an idiot when it comes to healthcare.
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Kyle has no clue what he is talking about when it comes to healthcare. He is incredibly wrong on the issue.
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Ok, and? We lead the world in R&D. We also lead the world in survival rates of in advance illnesses and access to advance care. High quality and access cost money.
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The elderly owing most of the wealth is normal. How many millennials own homes compare to boomers? And out of those who do how many have their home paid off? Having a home loan means negative wealth. So of course boomers have more wealth.
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The problem is that these rankings take raw data. For example, they will use overall life expectancy when many factors outside of healthcare influence life expectancy. That is what makes there rankings arbitrary and thus unreliable. Anyone can play with the data and come up with any ranking they want.
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As for the US and outcomes, we lead the world in survival rates of advanced illnesses. We also have the best access to advanced care. So you have to consider that.
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How so? He is ignoring quality in this argument. The US has the best quality and access in the world for a reason.
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The Headhunter , exactly. Funny how Kyle never brings that up.
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@linusmlgtips2123 , in Canada you have much longer wait times for "elective" care such as certain forms of heart surgery. They have less access to advance testing where the US offers the most CT scans and MRIs in the world. The numbers don't lie.
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@linusmlgtips2123 , actually access does have to do with insurance. Insurance companies are willing to pay the high price so we have access in the US. Government isn't willing to pay.
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@linusmlgtips2123 , what is wrong with profit? Insurance companies spend a lot of time doing disease awareness and fighting fraud. And where is the incentive for government to pay? Define "necessity". People die in wait lines in other nations. Wait times have lead to patients being worse off. In the paper entitled "A messy reality: an analysis of New Zealand's elective surgery scoring system via media sources, 2000–2006" They write "Research has also considered the impact of waiting on patients, with findings that those awaiting necessary treatments often face considerable costs. These may be financial if the ability to work is affected and if there is a need to pay for additional care and therapeutics while awaiting treatment. Costs for the health system may arise if patients are not treated in a timely manner and develop more serious conditions or co-morbidities as a consequence of waiting. There may also be quality-of-life impacts, as well as impacts on family or caregivers" Also, necessity can be very subjective. If I need a knee surgery I will want it quickly.
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@linusmlgtips2123 , people die in all nations due to lack of care. Amenable mortality is an issue in every nation.
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@linusmlgtips2123 , and the government can spread misinformation with no recourse. And many people cheat the government. For example, many people will pull out a student loan and use it illegally. However, the government never audits it. Sure, patients fight insurance companies, but they also fight government. I had to the other day to get money. I can point to other studies as well. It isn't an opinion as they cited other studies. Necessity is subjective in many ways.
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Plus a nation of less than 5 million people and less diversity. That plays a huge role.
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@AbstractTraitorHero , how is that racist? You do know you can have two different cultures of the same race?
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@AbstractTraitorHero , never said diversity was bad. The issue is that it is difficult to get people on the same page when they view the world in a different way. That is why a one size fits all system won't work, especially in a nation of our size. Let us take a simple example, K-12 education. The state of NV struggles with numbers in K-12 education. One may blame the system but in reality it is the culture. When you can make 6 figures working in the mines or $80,000 a year parking cars or serving drinks, where is the incentive to become educated? Now compare that to MA, a state that excels in education. It is also home to MIT, Harvard, Boston College, etc. So their culture values education. Ireland is smaller than most of the US states.
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@derekrequiem4359 , when did I ever say blacks and browns? Again, you can have two different cultures of the same race. You are the one bringing race into this. And now, it won't be easier with a higher population. You will have a much more difficult time getting everyone on the same page. You are assuming everyone is the same. This is how the far left contradicts themselves. They do so in many ways but here is one. They preach about diversity and people being different. But when it comes to economic issues they assume everyone is the same. Look at my comment about education in different states.
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@BlueUncia , history plays a major role. In the US we have a history of being independent and low taxation. That is another hurdle that will play a role in M4A. People won't accept the higher taxes like they do in Europe.
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@bootsandcats1501 , thanks. Someone who gets it.
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@picblick , I agree that the US system needs reform, but Kyle is literally lying in this video. We do have the best quality and access in the world with or for profit system. Problem is that we have many regulations and subsidies that make healthcare expensive. To me a major problem is the payroll tax in how I can't choose my insurance plan and rely on my employer.
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@picblick , my other major problem is that maybe M4A is the best route. But people pushing for it, like Kyle, are doing so on misinformation and it is dangerous.
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@LeisureSuitL , true. The US leads the world in access to advance testing. Kyle is not saying the full story. Harsh reality is this, universal healthcare is great in giving access to all in very basic care. But when it comes to advance care people suffer. People die in Canada waiting for "elective" heart surgery. People are going blind in the UK being denied cataract eye surgery. Maybe M4A, which Kyle supports, could be the best route. But people pushing it, like Kyle, need to be honest which they aren't.
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@dariuszp8119 "Private healthcare is growing like mad because goverment run healthcare is so bad." Yep, that is something Katherine Baicker said about Canada. "On the other hand, a single payer system does not automatically provide high quality care: the provision of low-value care is as pervasive in the single payer Medicare system as it is elsewhere. Single-payer systems are also slow to innovate – as suggested by the fact that it took Medicare 40 years to add a prescription drug benefit, long after most private insurers had done so. Nor do calculations of the costs of a single-payer system measure the utility loss from forcing people with different preferences into a monolithic health insurance plan. The private facilities that have sprung up in Canada to meet the demands of those who want more health care than the public system provides fundamentally undermine the “single payer” nature of the system. "
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@LeisureSuitL "whereas the NDP generally just thinks "hiring more/paying more" as being the answer to wait times. " True. One problem we have in the US is that the political left is so far left that their only solution to a complex issue is to "spend more money" and "hire more" as if there are unemployed doctors out there that simply need to be hired.
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@kennethmcneil3478 , how are Canadians only experts in healthcare?
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@kennethmcneil3478 , I experience the US system with no problems. What is your point? Also, it is poison for any US politician to reform the US system. It goes both ways. Obama pushed for Obamacare and lost congress.
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That is a bad argument. Many nations see a drop in life expectancy. For example, from 2012 to 2013 Iceland had a drop in their life expectancy.
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In many ways it is. However, Ben admits that our system is a bad combination of being for profit and many regulations and subsidies.
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