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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Jeb Bush: Eliminate The Federal Minimum Wage" video.
Avi Kota Learn the definition of a slave.
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Bitter Disillusionment If you feel you are worth more then you are being paid then get a new job because a competitor will pay you more if another business won't. If another business won't pay your more then start your own business. But historically businesses do pay more to attract and retain good employees.
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***** Funny, they already pay above the min. wage, especially Walmart.
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Paul Dickens If you are earning only a dollar above the min. wage then that is all you are worth.
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Paul Dickens So you are a tenure professor. That means you get paid to do nothing. As a graduate student I have seen several on tenure just do nothing and collect a paycheck. The simple fact is that you are paid what the market determines you to be worth. You may feel that you are looking out for your fellow human being but instead you are doing the opposite. And your last comment, me being a "waste of DNA" makes me question if you really are a professor. Or you could be one of those professors who hide behind their PhD when they don't know anything.
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SnakeGTX Have fun with that guy. He is about as clueless as it gets. To him when overall productivity went up that means workers at McDonalds are cooking burgers faster. I respond to him a few times and then just ignore him because in the end he will just call you stupid.Also, have fun with the sources he gives you. He will give a source from the government, the same one who is pushing the $10.10 min. wage but has no citations at all.
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SnakeGTX I hope you are having fun with this idiot, this is around the time I just ignore him. He is going to come back and just repeat the same things over and over again. I say the exact same things to him and he repeats the exact same things back. I say that there are several other factors in employment beyond the min. wage but he insists on pushing the overall employment point. He is just plain stupid.
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SnakeGTX See what I mean. There is goes with overall employment again when both you and I explained to him there are other factors involved in overall employment.
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Ylze Tyr He actually said he accepts evolution and I do to, as a theory. As a scientists myself I can understand that evolution is a theory and not a fact. When you study evolution for a living, are able to solve the partition function for the anharmonic oscillator with, or solve the Lagrangian of a multi-body problem, or explain time-dependent perturbation theory, or are able to read Electrodynamics by Jackson then come talk to me about science.
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SnakeGTX You can repeat all you want, I feel like he enjoys being stupid and annoying.
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SnakeGTX Yeah, usually I say I am done but hearing from this guy is a constant reminder why I will always have a job and be well off. With idiots like him out here (he isn't the only one who thinks like this) the competition for jobs will be weak.
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Ylze Tyr There are no positive side effects. I admit that small increases won't destroy the economy. What does happen is that we do see an increase in prices which hurts those who are low income. It also leads to less hours and jobs for the unskilled, typically the poor. In the end it hurts those it intends to help, the poor. Also as I admit there are no drastic side effects you are being a hypocrite feeling that it has drastic positive effects. That isn't true. You are not using logic, you are just on the opposite end of the spectrum on this issue. You feel that raising the min. wage will lead to a lot more jobs and more wealth when it hasn't.
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Paul Dickens Actually I am not flunking out, I am doing quite well.
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***** Slaves were force to work. If a job doesn't pay well enough then don't take it. It is a buyers and sellers market. Yes a business will love to pay someone 1 cent an hour, but who is going to take it especially if the rival business is going to pay a lot more?
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ProdigyP Actually it isn't. Several low skills jobs have seen their production stagnate. Production as a whole has gone up due to technology. But that doesn't mean every job has increased in productivity. Some jobs have decreased in productivity and don't exist anymore. If you look at the productivity of a full service restaurant since the 80s it has remained stagnate. There is a reason why those workers get paid the minimum.
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Ylze Tyr When someone says they are a tenured professor and then proceeds to give and insult I will question what they say. Like that guy in the other video saying he knows physics. I simply asked him if he could read Electrodynamics by Jackson and understand it. He didn't respond because he couldn't. So thus he doesn't know physics. You need to realize that.
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Ylze Tyr I am getting around for work, I do this while eating breakfast and watching my news. I will be off soon for the next 8 to 10 hours or so, around the time I work a day. As I said, go talk to Matt R. He is a very smart person that knows more then me on this subject. You should have a blast talking to him.
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ProdigyP Yes there are workers that will be desperate for a job. We see it today with volunteers and internships. There are people who pay money to go to college in order to better their situation and get a job.What the min. wage does is make it illegal for a business to hire someone who is willing to work for less because they either can't find a job or want supplemental income. While you are also trying to force businesses how much to pay per hour, you are not forcing them how much they can hire someone per hour. A business will decide to cut hours if the min. wage will go up and hire someone to only work during peak hours. For example, at a restaurant, instead of working from 9-5 they may have someone come in at 11-3, during peak hours and an hour afterwards to clean up. Or they may decide to close down at 10 pm instead of 11pm. So while those workers, assuming they keep their jobs, are paid more per hour, they will work less hours.
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solrinin A company won't offer you $20,000/yr for 20 hours/week because they won't be able to afford it.
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Ylze Tyr I didn't dodge the question. We are talking about the min. wage here anyway.
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solrinin What you are talking about is a salary now, not a wage. Most people on salary set their own hours and all they have to do is make sure certain work is done on time. I am paid on salary now. Some weeks I work 30 hours, some I work 60. It all depends. Salary is different than from a wage and usually those on salary are more focused on their job.If a company said they would pay me $20,000/yr the simple fact is that my hours won't be set. If I could get my work done in 20 hours that week then fine, if it becomes 40 to 50 or even 60 then so be it. The idea of salary is that both the company and employee can save something. The company can save money at times by avoiding OT certain weeks, and the employees can save time by working less some weeks and having a flexible schedule. It is a tradeoff. As far as going lower in pay. I am worth more than $10,000/yr. I will just work someplace else that will meet my demands. As is I am one of the highest paid graduate student on campus. When I applied I said I would take less by they offer me $300/month more. So even though I was willing to take less they still gave me more. If that business owner is going to hire someone at $10,000/yr instead of me then I personally don't want to work for them because chances are they are not and good employer if they are willing to hire someone inferior even though they can afford someone superior.
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Ylze Tyr I answered the question. The problem with this hypothetical question is that it is designed to bait me into an answer to agree with the person asking the question. I am smart enough not to fall for it. It is also a situation of the differences between a wage and a salary. It doesn't matter if you don't believe I am in school or not, it still doesn't change the fact that I am.
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Ylze Tyr It didn't demonstrate the flaw in my thinking. A business will cut hours to save money. If they are forced to pay your more per hour then they will employ you for less hours. His question had nothing to do with the topic at hand. It is changing the situation from a wage to a salary. If you were to ask that question people will wonder what it has to do with the min. wage in that you are talking about salary now. That is why I answered it the way I did, it is a different topic all together.
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Ylze Tyr You question is more in line with the topic. Of course I will like to get paid double for half of the work. Now what is the result in society? Less work being done thus less production, less goods and services and then higher prices. That is why when people say that raising the min. wage jobs are cut and prices go up.
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Ylze Tyr Low wage workers typically work in retail and restaurant which is where people get their basic needs. If you raise the min. wage then prices go up hurting those who are low income.The other part is that those are at a disadvantage typically have a hard time getting a job. If you raise the price floor of labor then they won't get a job at all making their situation worse. If you raise the min. wage then those teens won't get a job, we have seen that. I have said in the past that teenage unemployment has gone up due to the min. wage going up.
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Ylze Tyr States that raised their min. wage have seen higher cost of living in prices going up and teenage unemployment going up. Overall unemployment went down due to several other factors in the economy but that doesn't mean their economy is strong. Unemployment is one factor of the economy like the min. wage is. As I told you before, if there are no negative side effects to the min. wage and it actually helps the economy as you claim then why not $50/hr.? Why stop so low? You live in this fear mongering world that if we were to remove the min. wage then businesses will pay low wages and the poor will suffer and so would the economy. You also feel, incorrectly as shown in several stats (Matt R. actually posted some) that wages are not tied to productivity, they are. You also tried to tie inflation to everything in the economy when not everything inflates. If it did then I would have paid nearly $9,000 for my smart phone, that is determined from the brick cell phone first costing $3995 in 1984. Figure in inflation a cell phone should cost around $9000. But it didn't, and it is better then a brick phone. The cost of the cell phone didn't meet up with inflation.You have a lot to learn about the economy as you have clearly shown time and time again. You constantly try to tie everything to the economy very broadly when you can't. Not every business is ran by a multimillion dollar CEO or owner. Not every inflates or goes up in value. Not every job has increased in productivity. Seriously, study these things.
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Ylze Tyr They say that min. wage of unskilled workers will increased. I have said that over and over again. There are several other factors for overall unemployment. There is the labor to labor substitution you should read about. But to the ignorant like you it is black and white.
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Ylze Tyr So if raising the minimum wage does not have the negative effects we say would happen then why not $50/hr?
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Ylze Tyr I do know what a theory is. I know it isn't a guess. It is a prediction. Gravity is a prediction in how spherical bodies of mass move. Planetary motion is based on that theory and from the prediction we map out the planets' motions. But what is gravity? Now look at galaxy formation, specifically spiral galaxies. Gravity and momentum doesn't predict their formation so dark matter was develop. We can't detect dark matter but it is the theory we go with. Dark matter is no different then aether at this point. The thing with aether is that we develop another theory that gave better predictions for the properties of electromagnetic radiation. But none of this is fact. As I said, I study science for a living, you are just ignorant.
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Ylze Tyr I am for removing the min. wage, I can stand by that argument. I feel it does no good and does harm to groups of people. You say that raising the min. wage doesn't do any harm and actually helps employment as you have said in other comments. So why not $50/h.? Because you know their are negative side effects for any min. wage. Comparing this to marriage is a poor comparison.
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Ylze Tyr Really? So all the books I cite and problems I mentioned to you that I work on daily is not enough proof for you? Wow. Now I know you are ignorant.
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Ylze Tyr We are talking about an economic situation here and the negative effects of the min. wage. You feel that raising the min. wage doesn't do any harm and actually helps, I feel that even having a min. wage does harm. I am willing to go to the extreme and say eliminate the min. wage. You are no. That is because in understand there are negative effects of the min. wage and are not willing to accept them.
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Ylze Tyr Actually I never read Atlas Shrugged. I have read 1984.
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Ylze Tyr It doesn't have positive effects though. The federal min. wage was raised around 2007 and we still saw the economy crashed. Now other factors were involved but it didn't help like you claim.Those price increases are big. Most of those who are poor and working earn over $10/hr. They won't see a raise if you raise the min. wage to $10/hr. Most earning at or below $9.50/hr or less are not poor. The poor will be hurt the most. A little raise in prices won't hurt some people but is devastating to those who won't get a raise with a new min. wage increase but are low income and for those that do get one the price increase offsets the raise.It isn't unproven that it leads to less hours. That happens. And with you pointing towards those 13 states with rising employment you are alluding to it leading to more jobs. You are giving a one to one correlation.
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Ylze Tyr Those business owners are not sitting on money, if they were then the value of that money will go down. You have to spend money to generate wealth as a company and smart ones know that.You think that successful business owners don't already understand the benefits of higher wages? The simple fact is that there is only so much they can afford to pay. Also most on government assistance are one, don't work, or two, already earn over $10/hr. And that assistance drops off dramatically when you earn above that magic number per year making them worse off. Skylar Lehto mentions that very well in his video. That is a big negative.
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Ylze Tyr People making less than $10/hr are not poor. The average household income for those earning $9.50/hr or less is over $47,000/yr, they are a secondary earner in a household and not the primary. Businesses don't "hoard" the money. I never said that people on government assistance earn over $10/hr, what I said was that those on government assistance who go above the poverty level see their benefits drop a lot, but you love to twist words around. Skylar was not debunked. If you are referring to Pakman he cited one guy (who Skylar debunked already) and San. Fran. Skylar cited several sources. You would be the type of person who would say the 1999 Cleveland Browns were on of the best football teams ever. Also, you can sit there and feel that I don't study science, as I type this there is a half of million dollar laser set up behind me in my lab. Oh, but I don't study science, nope.
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+Antoine Finch Cost of living will be lower. WV is second to last in the US in terms of GDP per capita. Now you may say they are poor, but WV is number one in home ownership. That is not poor.
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Matt R Those who are poor and can't get a job can just live off of welfare. And if they don't have an education then they can get that free community college Obama is pushing for, because when you piss away K-12 years might as well keep going.
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Malcolm Marks France's healthcare system is inferior to the US in that you have longer wait times and rationed our care. They don't pay in money, they pay in quality and time.
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Malcolm Marks Matt is correct, saying that wages should be $20/hr is asinine when you consider that not every job has grown in value. Some jobs has dropped in value. How much is the clerk at Blockbuster worth now? $20/hr? According to you yes. According to the market no which is why they are no longer in business. Same with the batter plant in my home town. With batteries on board that are rechargeable there is a less demand for batteries thus the plant closed down. But according to you those workers are still worth $20/hr. You can complain about the Heritage source all you want, but you did make the asinine comparison of a low skill worker to that of greater productivity simply due to technology. Fry cooks at McDonalds are not working any faster or harder now then they were 20 years ago.
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justtryme100 One, what is a "living wage"? Define it. Let us say you are a healthy person, who walks to work, shares a studio with 2 other people, have little to no bills or no other expenses. Your "living wage" is low, very low. A "living wage" is a made up, political term that means nothing when broken down.
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Malcolm Marks Wikipedia even says what I say about the "living wage". It is subjective. Your "living wage" is completely different then from min. You can't just arbitrarily create one.
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Matt R Your example on LASIK is interesting. A buddy of mine brought up a great point in that if we eliminated insurance companies then, form competition, healthcare cost will go down. He was opposed to the idea due to his capitalistic nature, but he thought it was a great idea.
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justtryme100 The living wage is subjective, you can't just make an arbitrary number.I have looked at the MIT source. In two areas that I lived in I have calculated a lower "living wage" then what is listed. What is funny is the current city I live now they listed as transportation being higher then then town I use to live in even though gas is more expensive, by almost a dollar a gallon, in the city I live in. In all, that source is bogus.
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Dane Alaska If individuals have a "sick out" day then someone else who wants to succeed will take your place. You are poor for a reason.
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Dane Alaska Just because you can afford a "good wage" doesn't mean that other businesses can. What is your business? How do you run it? What type of customers do you aim for? Take Costco vs Walmart. Costco pays more because they sell in bulk, have a membership, and are open only during peak hours. Walmart is open 24 hours, sells individual items, has no membership, and has more locations. The cater to different types of customers. Costco caters to someone wanting to buy bulk where Walmart is the one stop shop at any time in several locations. So just because you can pay well doesn't mean others can.I agree that if a business pays well then those workers work harder. Almost every business owner will agree. But there comes a time where you can't afford more. I bet you don't pay your workers as well a Google does? And why not? Google treats their employees well. So why don't you?College grads on min. wage jobs are one, extremely rare and is not much of a problem if at all. And two, would be because they got a degree that isn't valued that high. There is a difference between hard work and productive work. I can work hard for 12 hours a day digging holes in the back yard, it won't get me anywhere, but I am working hard. People are poor because they don't want the challenge and thus don't want to be productive.
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Dane Alaska You are a small business owner, CEOs run a different company. They have to deal with stock holders, numerous regulations, attack from politics, more adversity, and more competition just to name a few issues they have to deal with. A CEO is one bad decision away from a multimillion dollar company going bankrupt. They are paid well for a reason. And them getting paid well means that their company is generating that much wealth. Around 30% of the US holds a college degree. Less than 5% earn or at or below the min. wage. The stats. just don't add up. Are there college grads working min. wage jobs? Yeah, but they are few and far between and typically hold degrees that are not worth much.The hole digging analogy was about how I can work hard but if I produce little wealth then I won't get paid. I hear all the time about someone working 2 jobs but still doesn't make much. That is because their 2 jobs don't generate much wealth. Every business knows that higher wages means less turnover and better employees. There comes a point where they simply can't afford it. Those multibillion dollar companies making all that profit does so because they generate that much wealth. There are other ways they can spend it that improves society besides hiring more people. They can invest in something that improves the company and makes it a better place to shop at. Less profits means less investment and less progress. Costco sells more because they sell in bulk and are open only during peak hours. They also have less stores open. I hear a lot how great it is that Costco pays well but I never hear complaints in how little they hire. There are only 2 Costcos in my city but several Walmarts. Sam's Club is owned and operated by Walmart so that plays a role as well.
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Dane Alaska Paying people more has always been a goal in businesses, there comes a point when they simply can't afford it. Walmart, TJ Max and Target are retail stores. Their business model doesn't allow them to pay their workers more. One may point to their profits but they use profits to increase capital and improve their business. When they improve their business it grows and they can eventually pay more people more. It isn't a black and white situation and it isn't easy. Every business is ran differently and every business comes up with a model to improve. Paying your employees well is one way, but there are others.
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Fuck Off Google Glancing at a stat from the BLS around 2% of min. wage workers have a college degree. That is rare. And I didn't know Walmart was forcing their workers to work there.
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