Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Fox Host Bravely Stands Up To Minimum Wage Workers" video.

  1. You just broke down a complex economy to simply the min. wage and the price of a Big Mac. The economic illiteracy is high with liberals.
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  2. Wow, a liberal promoting violence to someone they don't agree with. What a surprise.
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  3. Jeremy S How much food?  What kind of shelter?  A studio apartment with three people or your own one bedroom?  I walk to work, transportation is not a necessity to me.  So is my "living wage" now lower?  I can live with limited heat since I spend a lot of time at work.  Is my living wage now lower?  What kind of education?  Again, this is all subjective.  This is why businesses pay with a market rate, it is defined.
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  4. Quantum the unknown Ok, now define that. Get into details.
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  5. fl00fydragon Those who work min. wage jobs are 1. just entering the work force (the young) 2. retirees doing busying work 3. those re-entering the workforce looking for part time work, as in a parent whose kids are old enough to be on their own Very few min. wage workers work full time and they are usually temporary.  One advantage of earning a low wage is that your schedule is flexible.  You are given less responsibilities thus you can switch your schedule. 
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  6. fl00fydragon What type of entertainment?  Books are essentially free. So now I already lowered the "living wage".  We can go on if you want.
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  7. Wealth does not equal income
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  8. ***** Which is still minute in a 1.6 trillion dollar economy. 
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  9. Walter, thank you for adding an intelligent response to aviftw's asinine comment.
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  10. aviftw, along with you asinine gun comment that Walter pointed out to be wrong, there are several reasons why the economy grows. The min. wage, if you use PPP is not much higher than the US. At that point, like in the US, the min. wage is essentially an unmeasurable variable in the complex economy.
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  11. When broken down there is not one single good reason to even have a min. wage.
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  12. Cumputing fornever Most people no min. wage are not poor.
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  13. smartdave599 According to one study those earning $9.50/hr, close to 90% of them were not poor and lived in a household that earned, on average, $47,000 a year.
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  14. smartdave599 http://www.people.vcu.edu/~lrazzolini/GR2010.pdf
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  15. smartdave599 Also, the vast majority of min. wage workers are young and work part time.  You are making it sound like people are trying to survive off of it when they aren't.
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  16. Jeremy, businesses already pay more even though they don't want to. The reason why is because if a business didn't than a rival will. As is less than 4% of workers earn at or below the min. wage. That fact you used the term "living wage" shows you are an economic illiterate. Healthcare reform has done more harm than good.
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  17. Jeremy S Your definition of a "living wage" as no standard.  What is "reasonable"?  Again, that is subjective. 
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  18. Jeremy S I am not nitpicking.  You can't just arbitrarily define something.  What if someone has two kids?  Now what?  That is the game you are playing.  It is appeal to emotions.  All of these people being shown who work min. wage are alive.
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  19. Jeremy S There is no definition for a "living wage" anywhere in any economic study.  What about the diabetic?  What about the single mom with two kids?  What about they person with cancer or the parent with the special needs kid?  Their living wage is higher.  Why don't you want to help them?
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  20. Jeremy S I have never seen it in any economic journal.  You have to nitpick.  You can't just arbitrarily create laws.  There has to be standards.  Why the average?  Why not the median?  What about those who need above the average?  Why do you hate those individuals?  Should they just die? What about those below the average?  Why should the be given so much success? 
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  21. Jeremy S Ok, where? And I agree, the drinking age is arbitrary.  But that is a poor comparison in that you are not talking about the complex financial system.
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  22. Jeremy S All I need is one.
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  23. Jeremy S First one has an impact factor of 0.5 Second one has an impact factor of 0.6 Third one has an impact factor of 0.5 That is very low.  I have never published a paper in a journal of such a low impact factor.  I will give you credit where credit is due, they are technically academic journals.  Too bad they are in journals no one reads or cites as seen by the low impact factor.  I think it is safe to say the term "living wage" is not defined in economics.
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  24. Jeremy S Nope, it was less than 1.  Even at that 1 is still low.  Also, Google Scholar is not much.  Try Web of Science.  The term "living wage" is not defined which is why it is in journals of such low impact factors. 
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  25. Jeremy S You came close to meeting my challenge, but still, an impact factor of less than 1 is low.  My papers, at worse, are in a journal with an impact factor of 3. Fact is that "living wage" is subjective and means nothing.   You are appealing to emotions, that's it.  Also, you have to consider that is wage is an hourly rate.  You are wanting to enforce how much is paid per hour, not per week.  So if you raise the min. wage and hours are cut, is that now a "living wage"?  Why not push for a "living salary"?
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  26. Jeremy S They have low impact factors and are not even closed  to the public.  They will publish anything.  I have experience in this.  Our research team will never consider journals of such low impact factors. You are making an emotional appeal.  You have no standard in why you want the wage to be the way it is.  Do you know how many people work the min. wage and work full time?  Very few.  Min. wage workers are not, for the most part, poor.  They are not struggling to make a living.  Most are young.  They are paid the market rate, period.  It is up to the individual to find a way to earn a living.  You may have an argument if min. wage workers were poor, but they aren't. "  But we will see what is appropriate 30-50 yrs from now when 80% of jobs are replaced by automation." That won't happen.
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  27. Jeremy S But you don't list them. "How is paying people in proportion to the cost of living an emotional statement." Because you are saying that it is wrong for people to be paid little with no other justification. Why should a teenager be paid such a high wage?  "Its a common sense statement." What is "common sense"?  Again, that is a phrase with no standard.  To me, and several economists it is "common sense" to pay the market rate.  "Ive got no problem arguing against slavery an exploitation based on morality," Slaves were forced to work and were treated as property. Not relevant here. "its up to the government to enforce a fair and safe work environment." Define "fair" and "safe"  I work in a very unsafe environment.  A $15/hr min. wage is more than I make right now.  Why should a fast food worker, who works in a very safe environment compared to me, be paid more.  By the way, I am living just fine. "Experts predict 30% of jobs will be lost by 2025 due to automation." And new jobs will be created like always. No different then when the tractor replaced the farm workers.  Also, new technology means more production thus better goods and services that are cheaper. I see no problem there.
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  28. Define "descent living wage".
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  29. fl00fydragon Books and internet are free with public libraries and several free WiFi zones.  Also, what if someone doesn't want to go to a museum or theater?
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  30. TheUltimateBeing01 I agree. 
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  31. dmike3507 Costco hires very few employees compared to Walmart, I never hear complaints about that. Anyway, the two companies are different.  Walmart 1. 24 hours 2. multiple locations 3. no membership 4. multiple items not in bulk Costco 1. limited hours 2. limited locations 3. membership 4. bulk items You can't compare the two.
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  32. dmike3507 Costco has a different business model.  I don't shop there because I don't want to pay for a membership and buy bulk items.  Costco caters to a different set of customers like Walmart does.  Walmart caters to customers in a way of being open 24 hours in multiple locations that is convenient.  I live closer to 3 Walmarts than I do Costco.  Several areas don't even have a Costco.  Seems like Costco, with their limited hours, limited locations, and the fact they can't hire more has a poor business model and shouldn't exit.  Ever thought of that? Also, if only Costco existed what will stop them from lowering wages and raising prices?  
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  33. TheUltimateBeing01 Walmart can't pay more because they can't afford it, period. I also find it funny how people praise Costco for their higher wages but don't criticize them when they hire so few workers.  I guess in the liberal mind it is either work a high paying job or be unemployed and live off of the government.
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  34. dmike3507 Walmart is cheaper than Costco for someone like me.  I don't have to buy a membership and don't have to buy in bulk.  I don't buy in bulk because I have limited space in my apartment and don't want food to go bad. 
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  35. dmike3507 Walmart is as big as they are because of shareholders. They have to keep them happy.  They has over 3 billion shares outstanding.  Costco has around 400 million.  That's it.  That is why Walmart is so much more profitable.  Walmart also hires more employees, over 2 million vs around 100,000.  Why are there never any complaints about how Costco hires so few workers? Anyway, with profits.  If Walmart were to cut profits shareholders would sell back their shares forcing Walmart to downsize and thus cut employees.
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  36. TheUltimateBeing01 And a portion of that profit goes to shareholders.  It isn't as simple as "Walmart earns X thus the can pay their employees Y".  If it were than I will be on your side.  It isn't.  Walmart pays competitive wages for retail when you look at other retail chains like Sears and JcPennys or smaller ones like Raley's and Hy Vee.  Business like Raley's and Hy Vee are small because they lack shareholders. 
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  37. TheUltimateBeing01 Walmart's business model is cheap goods.  I shop at a smaller, more local store because, to be blunt, I hate poor people.  So I avoid Walmart.  But at this store I pay more for the same goods and this store pays their employees comparable wages.  Fact is that Walmart can't afford higher wages and raising the price will hurt their business.
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  38. TheUltimateBeing01 A slight price increase will have their price comparable to competitors.  So yes, the slight price increase will hurt the company. Also, what about the person earning $15.50/hr?  They see prices go up but not their wages. 
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  39. dmike3507 I never said bigger is better.  I am saying Walmart and Costco run different business models.  Compare it to a hammer and a sledge hammer.  You use a hammer for a nail.  You don't use a sledge hammer for a nail.  Does that make the sledge hammer useless?  No.  It is a different tool.  Costco can be considered warehouse, not retail.  Costco sells their products in bulk and require a membership.  Again, not a bad business model, just different.  Same with Walmart. Costco, with bulk items and limited hour and locations is able to move more units per employee per hour.  That is why they are able to pay more.  A Walmart will be open on December 20, at 3 in the morning during a blizzard.  How much revenue are they generating then? Again Walmart 24 hours Numerous locations Items are not bulk Costco Membership Limited hours Limited locations Bulk items Different business models. You might as well say "well Google pays their employees well, why doesn't Costco". Also, I still find it ironic that no one is complaining how few workers Costco hires.  Sure they may pay more than Walmart, but Walmart at least employs people giving them a chance. In the end, you used the phrase "decent wages" as an argument which means nothing.  What is a "decent wage"?  Costco pays what?  $17/hr?  Is that "decent"?  Why not $30/hr?  You are throwing around phrases with no standards. 
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  40. ***** Why would that person get a raise? When the min. wage went to $7.25/hr I was making $8/hr.  I did not get a raise and neither did others.  That person earning $15.50/hr will not get a raise. If they do get a raise than prices will go up as a whole and now we are back to square 1.  You have not solved anything.
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  41. ***** I agree, people making $15/hr are skilled.  Those working at Walmart and McDonalds are not.  They are not worth $15/hr.
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  42. dmike3507 How does Costco have more pros?  Walmart caters to customers more with convenience.  They have convenient locations and convenient hours.  Costco is more warehouse where Walmart is retail.  I can buy a can of soup at Walmart at 3 in the morning if I wanted.  They are different business models. Looking at Walmart success they are better. "Also hiring fewer people is not a bad thing at all" So you support higher unemployment? 
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  43. dmike3507 Retail workers and fast food workers produce very little.  They are not worth $15/hr.
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  44. In reality McDonalds will just downsize before they raise prices. So not that much, but there will be job loss.
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  45. "the person flipping burgers for 7.25 an hour is probably producing $100 worth of food and services every hour" No they aren't.
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  46. "he said in the video that minimum wage if matched with productivity would be $21" That is overall productivity. Not every job has increased in productivity. Look up Skilled Biased Technological Change.
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  47. steve Kos "maybe they have produced over $100 worth of food" They don't.
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  48. Kyle is an economic illiterate.
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  49. If you raise the min. wage businesses will stand up to min. wage workers and fire them.
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  50. The min. wage is at an all time high.
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  51. smartdave599 Why? 
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  52. smartdave599 You are making the false assumption that people are trying to live off of the min. wage which isn't true. 
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  53. smartdave599 They are usually second or third earners of a household. 
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  54. smartdave599 You can't tie the min. wage to inflation because not everything inflates.  Just like some goods go down in price so does labor  If you tie the min. wage to inflation than you say that everything in the economy has become more expensive.  That isn't true though.
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  55. smartdave599 The min. wage is a political stunt to gain votes from economic illiterates.
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  56. smartdave599 It shouldn't exist at all.
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  57. Baargu You are using emotions here. At that point you lost the argument. Very, very few people, if any are trying to raise a family off of the min. wage.
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  58. Baargu 1. Why did he lose his jobs?  Because of regulations like the min. wage 2. Don't break the law "Do you know how many min wage workers are sole earners?" Not many
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  59. Baargu In the free market that person will get another job.  If you raise the min. wage you will lose jobs making it harder for them. Those "millions" of workers are part time and temporary.  "f a air port worker gets a decent living wage he will spend it in his locality there by increasing the revenue of local businesses" Not really.  They will most likely lose a job or hours.  With the min. wage you are enforcing how much is paid per hour, not per week.
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  60. Baargu Jobs left because of higher taxes and regulations.  Even at that they are archaic jobs.  As an established country we should push people to study STEM fields to increase the number of doctors, professors, researchers etc. on the market.  Doing so will improve our healthcare and technology and make it cheaper.  No different than when technology replaced other workers, they had to develop new skills. If we leave the market alone than the change will be gradual. Problem is that it hasn't been gradual, it has been forced.  "How would raising the min wage cause loss of jobs" Less hours, less job opportunity, also labor to labor substitution so less part time jobs. No company is hoarding money. "51% of all working Americans make less than 34k per year." Subjective stat.  I am including in that.  I am fine as a young graduate student. 
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  61. Baargu US has some of the highest taxes in the world.  It is also very complicated.  "Who will feed all the engineers and doctors?" So food will no longer be produced?  I don't get what you are saying? "Who will drive them around? Who will build their houses repair the roads?" What?  I own my own car.  Also, construction workers are paid well.
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  62. Baargu One, we are not a "democratic nation".  Next, those loopholes tend to favor those who are rich or intelligent and thus don't help the least fortunate.  It also leads to corruption.  Simplifying the tax code will do a lot of good for all.  Construction workers are paid well.  $30,000 a year is great in a lot of ways.  I am a sole earner and have a lot of responsibilities.  I manage what I have very well and plan ahead.
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  63. Baargu My employer pays for my health insurance and my rent is $560/month for a one bedroom apartment.  I live alone in a safe neighborhood.
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  64. jerry benjamin I don't support the same economics as Bernie Sanders does.
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  65. jerry benjamin Nice, mature rebuttal.  It is safe to assume you are an economic illiterate.
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  66. Baargu So Bernie supports a flat tax?
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  67. jerry benjamin Seems like you are avoiding the debate because you know you will lose.
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  68. Baargu You are making the false assumption that those working the min. wage the sole earner of a household and is also raising a family.  Both are basically not true.  Min. wage earners are typically second or third earners of a a household.  Rent in my neighborhood for a two bedroom is around $650.  Now you have a person with a roommate their rent is now $325.  That is one way to save.  That is a household with two earners.  You can add to the fact that they could walk to work, they are a teen living with a parent.  It is a parent working a part time job after their kids have left the home.  Or it is a second job.   Statistically very few, as in less than 5% of min. wage workers work full time.  Min. wage jobs are low paying.  Not only are they low skilled but they also are given to temporary employees and those who work part time with flexible scheduling.  If an employer is going to pay you more they will demand you take on more responsibility and have a more consistent schedule.  Now are there people working full time on min. wage trying to raise a family?  Yes. But they are very rare and essentially not measurable in statistics.  You are wanting to raise the min. wage thinking you will be helping out that person when in reality you won't.  Even if you did you will be hurting far more people as a result.  In the end you are using emotions to support an argument.  As emotions go up logical and reasoning go down.
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  69. Baargu "when more people afford things, businesses can accumulate profits on volume, they will even bring down the costs." This is also a false assumption.  What brings prices down is increase in supply, or increase in wealth.  In the very end you can't consume what you don't produce.  Just because people have more money doesn't mean there will be more wealth to consume.  If there isn't any wealth to consume than the price will go up if people had more money. On a small scale, say you have a guy who works as a cook at McDonalds.  He can cook, at best. 20 hamburgers an hour (arbitrary number).  Now you pay him more.  That does not increase his ability to cook more hamburgers.  You pay him more because the min. wage went up.  More people have more money (assuming no one was fired or lost hours, another false assumption).  They go to McDonalds but that cook can't cook faster.  You may say they will hire more but they can't because they only have one grill and don't have the space or funds to buy another one or expand.  The increase in demand raises prices and now we are back to square one.  That is a small scale example but exists on the macro level.  Same with rent.  If people had more money they will be looking to rent and live on their own.  The min. wage does not increase the amount of living quarters their are.  Now rent went up.   You are artificially increasing demand with your assumption.
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  70. Baargu Bernie wants everyone to pay their "fair share".  That would be a flat tax. "then you will not have to pay insurance premiums worth thousands every year." I don't already.  What do I gain?
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  71. Actually we lack doctors. If you understood science you will know we lack workers in the STEM fields.
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  72. Cassidy Robinson Why is college expensive?  Because of the student loan program.  Why is unwanted pregnancy a problem?  Because democrats reward irresponsibility. The min. wage is at an all time high.
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  73. Cassidy Robinson If you made college "free" it will be even more expensive or the quality will be worse. "Guess what, people have sex" Guess what?  People are lazy.  And they end up poor and stupid.  Enjoy poverty is what I say.
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  74. ***** I don't really care about unwanted pregnancies.  It is not my fault democrats reward stupidity.  The min. wage is at an all time high. 
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  75. ***** Maybe if the min. wage did not kill jobs for teens they would not be getting pregnant.
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  76. Cesar Galvez Not really.  It depends on the situation.
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  77. It isn't important. No one cares about them striking.
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  78. realrunner2000 McDonalds are franchised where they can't pay more.  Walmart can't pay more unless they downsize.  Even at that a major company like Walmart is able to downsize and be strong where smaller companies can't.  There are more companies than Walmart and McDonalds out there.
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  79. realrunner2000 Franchised companies are similar to small businesses.  McDonalds does not determine wages, the owner of the franchise does. What determines a "small" business?  Revenue or number of employees?  It isn't that easy to define.  Universal healthcare has many problems and won't work in the US as is.  Anyway, several small businesses don't pay healthcare insurance as is.  The ones that do pay for healthcare do so because of the payroll tax.  It was a way to pay employees without paying taxes.  If they paid in an higher wage than they will pay a higher tax.  So with universal healthcare businesses won't pay a higher wage because they will be wanting to avoid the payroll tax.  So unless you get rid of the payroll tax you won't see higher wages. 
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  80. Zoruamaster249 The term "living wage" is subjective and doesn't mean anything.  The sooner you stop using that appeal to emotion talking point the sooner we can have a serious conversation.
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  81. ***** "I've heard that if the minimum wage went to $15 an hour in Walmart, it would only raise the price of their goods by cents." Walmart is a major corporation that can make more sacrifices to avoid raising prices.  Some of those sacrifices will be less hours for workers.  Not every company can do that.  Plus, there are several workers who work on a low income and those few cent raises will hurt them.  "Also why is it that the Senate and Congress get to pass their own pay raises like they did not long ago which was a cost of living raise." Good question.  I have always said that congress members should get paid the median income of the US citizen.  That is why they will do what is necessary to improve the economy.  "Why haven't minimum wage people been given COL wage increases over the many last decades?" You can't tie it to cost of living because the min. wage is for low wage jobs.  Also, cost of living is subjective. "Face it, capitalism will fall into another great depression soon because of down and outright greed at the top." We haven't been practicing capitalism for a while.
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  82. ***** If you consider PPP the min. wage of Australia is much lower.  Also, the min. wage is one variable in a complex economy. 
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  83. I make $23,000 a year as a graduate student. I feel these min. wage workers are dumb. I hope it goes up and they all get fired.
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  84. The key of D's I actually make more than most grad students.  The monthly stipend in my university, before taxes, is around $1850 month and that is typical across the country.  Also as a grad student I don't have to pay more loans yet. I also get my tuition paid for along with health insurance, the exact same offer I was given from all 10 graduate schools I applied to.  It seems like you have no clue how the market work or what jobs get paid what. Also, I live 2000 miles away from my parents.
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  85. The key of D's The reason why I make more is because I do work other part time jobs.  They are low paying but the schedule is very flexible.
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  86. Xyz Same I mainly TA.  I do research as well but that is for my PhD work. I have very flexible scheduling and work anytime I want basically besides my teaching schedule.  Yesterday I left work at 1 pm and did a lot of it at home. I get my tuition paid for and healthcare as well. 
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  87. The key of D's What I am saying is that I am surviving just fine off of $23,000 a year.  I never use my healthcare insurance.  Tuition payment is just for me to go to school which is not necessary for me to live. What do I teach?  I teach physics and chemistry, a subject that requires actual problem solving and analysis of numbers and not emotions.  Also, it is a field where after my graduate studies I can earn a high income where I don't have to beg the government for a raise.
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  88. Catrambi There is a lot of data in economics which is why most economists oppose the the min. wage. There is a great video of a debate about the min. wage.  Those in favor of abolishing it had lots of data where those in favor of keeping it only appealed to emotions talking about the single mom.  In the end that is all supporters of the min. wage have, emotions.  That is why I always say that when broken down there is not one single good reason to even have a min. wage because all of the arguments for it can be squashed with numbers. I in the west side of the country.  I won't say exactly where due to creeps on the internet.  My rent is $560 a month.  I pay $40  a month on energy and $60 on internet.  I pay around $100 a month on groceries.  That is $760, around half of my paycheck.  I can manage my money very well.  It isn't hard.  I have no children because I am not irresponsible and have children when I am not ready. I live in a one bedroom apartment by myself and eat healthy.  I had pasta today with an apple.  I plan on having cereal tomorrow and maybe some eggs for lunch.  I also live in a city.   I own my own car that is reliable. 
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  89. The key of D's My logic is not flawed.  The fact is that the vast majority of those earning the min. wage are not poor.  They are not raising kids. They are not struggling.  Are there some?  Yes.  But they are the extreme minority.  We can't wreck the economy and hurt others to maybe benefit the few.  And I say maybe because there is no guarantee they will be helped.  The min. wage enforces how much is paid per hour, not per week.  The business can always cut hours. So you raise the min. wage and someone gets their hours cut, what have you accomplish?
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  90. " So, why isn't YOUR wage also a job killer?" Because they produce that much wealth. There is a demand for their job and in the market it is valued that high. There isn't that much of a demand for McDonald workers. If it were to be raised to $15/hr prices will go up. I am not going to pay a lot for something I can cook at home for far less and most likely not mess up. Also, many bosses don't earn $500/hr.
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  91. profd65 "The McDonalds worker produces a helluva lot more wealth than $9 per hour" No they don't. "The average McDonalds franchise has annual sales of over $2 million" Which is small. "Then go home and cook, you piece of shit" I do, cheaper and better food and it doesn't get messed up.
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  92. profd65 Show me where you got those numbers and run through them with me.  An annual profit fo $150,000 is tiny.  How much wealth do I produce?  Quite a bit really.  Also, how easily you are to replace does play a role.  I do something that maybe 100 people the world can do. Anyone can work fast food.
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  93. profd65 "The owner just walks around his house in his slippers drunk all year and pockets $150,000 for it; he has nothing to complain about." You have obviously never done the work of running a business or something similar.
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  94. profd65 I use to earn $5.15/hr.
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  95. profd65 How many single mother of two are earning the min. wage? 
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  96. profd65 "3.3 million Americans work at or below the federal minimum wage." Which is minute. "26% of the US workforce earns less than $10.55 an hour." Where do they live?  Are the part time or full time?  "42% of the US workforce earns less than $15." Same as above. 
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  97. profd65 Your original thesis was that $15/hr is not a job killer because there are jobs that pay $20/hr. Well, let us look at that.  There are jobs that pay $50/hr.  So why not raise the min. wage to $50/hr?
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  98. profd65 Nope, I care about jobs. When you raise the min. wage those who are at a disadvantage are going to suffer.  That is why the black teenager unemployment rate is so high.  "One is that most businesses have too small a profit margin to pay everyone a minimum of $50/hr," Just like they can't afford a $15/hr min. wage.  Congrats, you are learning.
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  99. profd65 What makes you thing they can afford $15/hr?  "if you raised the minimum wage to $15/hr hamburger joints aren't going to lay off a bunch of workers" Yes they will and her is how. Say a franchise owner of Burger King owns 15 of them in a city. They can drop down to 8.  Now say out of those 8 they are open 24 hours.  Instead they can only have 4 of them be open 24 hours.  Now hours are greatly reduced.  A Denny's in New York stop being 24 hours when the min. wage went up allowing them to cut hours and employees.
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  100. profd65 They won't be profitable anymore, that is the point.  In order to make it profitable they will have to downsize. Also, in a mile radius there are around 4 Burger Kings to me.  That is the point.  Instead of going maybe 1/4 of a mile I would go 3/4 of a mile, not 6.  My bad, it wasn't a Denny's, it was another restaurant. http://www.facesof15.com/business/longways-diner/ Still, that is how businesses account for the wage increase, they will cut hours in some way.  That is the overall flaw of the min. wage.  You are enforcing how much is paid per hour, not per week.  So when hours are cut, then what?
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  101. profd65 And Seattle has a high min. wage, not surprising you have limited restaurants.  Also, the state of Washington has one of the highest teenage unemployment rate. "Your Longway's Diner story is bullshit" Whatever, you don't have to believe it.  Just like a min. wage hike won't hurt me any as I get paid way above the min. wage and can make cuts if needed. "Look, it may actually happen that raising the minimum wage will result in a few persons losing their jobs in the short run. But I would rather have a 5% unemployment rate with every employed person getting paid a living wage (and none of them on food stamps,) than have a 3.5% unemployment rate with loads of employed persons who are impoverished and struggling to survive." So what do you do with those who lost their jobs?  Also, there is something called labor to labor substitution.  That is those jobs could be replaced by those re-entering the job market and turnover rate is lower.  That means those at a disadvantage, such as teens, can't get a job and thus enter the workforce later.  That makes it harder for them to move up.  You are keeping people down.  That is not how you grow an economy. ". The increase in payroll costs could easily be covered by a slight increase in menu prices and a slight decrease in business profits" Business profits are thin, so they can't cut profits.  Also, several people will refuse to pay the increase.  As is I hardly eat out because it is expensive.  Several will follow suit.
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  102. I find it funny how when someone suggests eliminating the min. wage they feel businesses won't pay anyone at all. I guess every worker in the US is earning the min. wage according to liberals.
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