Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "THROWBACK: The Worst Libertarian Argument Ever" video.

  1. Q.How do you debunk a liberal A. Let them speak
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  2. Great points.
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  3. redandblackrevolutionary I am not apologizing for a system, I am stating a fact. We can look at it this way.  What is the price of a life?  To Ford it was a few hundred thousand dollars.  What is it to you?  A million?  That is what Friedman was asking.  I imagine you have a point where you will forget about safety if it became too expensive.  
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  4. Paradoxarn Who was taking the risk?  A pinto is a cheap car and typically are not as safe.  One is taking a risk doing that.  One is talking a risk buying a car that can go 140 MPH when the max speed limit is 75, why are there no safety regulations on that?  People take a risk smoking, they buy an item that literally kills them. Same with tanning beds.  You are blaming Ford for this when the individual is at fault most of the time.  
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  5. How about you play the rest of the video.  Friedman had a great answer to the question.  He says how far are people will to go on this issue?  A couple bucks ok, but why not $50?  Or $100? Where is your stopping point?  The honest situation is if the government forces that part on the car then the company selling it will increase the price now it will no longer cost a couple bucks.  Friedman went on to explain the risks you take in buying a cheaper vehicle.  When you buy a ford pinto you are buying a vehicle that is less safe than a Mack Pickup.  Just like you can a rent a cheaper apartment but it may be in a less safe neighborhood.  There is a risk in buying the pinto.  Yes it could have been made safer but it would have cost more to where people wouldn't have been able to buy it. The problem with this "social contract" is that it can comes with drawbacks, especially in a country as large as the US.  I can't speak for libertarians but I can say that I don't like the FDA, I want an issue like that to be ran at the local level.  One issue with something like the FDA or EPA is that they are a minute part of the budget.  The federal government provides that and people say they are needed because for some asinine reason they feel that the states can't manage it, but then the federal government has the NSA, or bailouts for the big banks and wallstreet.  You create a federal government that has too much power and you have little control over.  At the state level you have more control over it. What we need to develop a balance.  Kyle is opposing Friedman and libertarians because he doesn't like the idea of no government.  I opposed Kyle because I don't like too much government because too much government is just as bad as no government.  Liberals say it starts out as a simple regulations for $13 for a car, but then it adds up.  Next they will want a $20 part, then a $10 part, than a $50 part to increase safety.  There is no stopping point.  Look at education now.  K-12 is funded in every state, our education system is not that great.  Now liberals want universal pre-K and 2 years of college paid for.  In a few years it will be all college paid for and kids going to school at the age of 1.  I don't agree with doing away with government but liberals are allowing the government to grow too large and that is not any better.
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  6. joseph jacovino At what cost do we need a state to protect people's interest?  That is what Friedman was asking in the end.   If the part in this car cost a million dollars would one have supported a government putting it on the car then?  Or if it were to only kill 10 or 20 people?  You are setting different standards based on your feelings alone. 
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  7. redandblackrevolutionary Then it comes down to how far do we have to go?  Yeah one may be a few bucks, but then people will demand another which is a lot more.  As a whole there is a risk in buying a pinto compared to buying a mack pickup.  You buy a cheaper vehicle it will be inferior and less safe.  
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  8. redandblackrevolutionary You are placing a price on a life.  As Milton asked, let us say it was a million dollars, would you force Ford to put the part on then?   
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  9. I didn't know Ford forced people to buy the Pinto.
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  10. I didn't know Ford forced people by gunpoint to buy the Pinto.
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