Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Bernie Highlights Death From Lack Of Medicare 4 All In Powerful Video" video.

Most people are sick because of poor lifestyle choices.
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@UCRD2UdJBceKCEhoZmR1aNLA , no nation provides healthcare to all. The 40% pay cut comes from Bernie's own bill. If I were to pay you 40% less how will you react? Again, people die in Canada being denied heart surgery.
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Is it because of human error or because of lack of advanced testing?
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Read the book "Being Mortal". People look towards modern medicine to live another 5 or 10 years but really live another 5 or 10 months, and that is in all nations.
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Do you have an actual counter argument to what he said?
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Sad story, but you can't just push this to justify M4A. M4A has drawbacks where people will die as well. This is the problem with the far left, they are not willing to have an actual conversations.
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Which of these progressives actually know what they are talking about?
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@Noah_McCurry , progressives really don't know what they are talking about. They only have talking points. Look at Bernie, when pushed he just goes on talking point rants. He is clueless.
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@UCRD2UdJBceKCEhoZmR1aNLA , in Canada people die being denied heart surgery. They have shortcomings as well. Define "need". That's vague. What is a "need" to you may not be for others. Healthcare is not that simple. That is the problem with the far left, they feel you can just make it a "right" and everything will be solved. It doesn't change the objective reality that resources are limited.
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@peanutawesome1 , where does innovation come from? The free market. You can't just have innovation come about, there has to be proper investment.
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@Noah_McCurry , me leave my echo chamber? Really? To me the far left lives in an echo chamber right now as they refuse to acknowledge opposing viewpoints on these complex issues. M4A covering seniors? Not unless you want to pay a lot in the system. Funny you bring up eye care. The NHS is rationing eye surgery where people are going blind. Reality is something has to give. The far left is not willing to have these difficult conversations.
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@Noah_McCurry , covering people is completely different than giving people healthcare. Again, something has to give. If you cut pay by 40% what do you think will happen?
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@bLackmarketRadio , it isn't just that. Maybe M4A is the best route to take. But to push for a bill that will reduce pay by 40% and not believe something will not change is foolish. Far leftists refuse to have actual conversations on these issues. They feel that M4A is the ideal system when in reality it will come with many problems itself and we will have to change our expectations.
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@peanutawesome1 , to want to improve health there has to be an incentive.
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Kylem https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2560551/
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@JohnnyCageRock https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2560551/ There is one report of people dying waiting for "elective" heart surgery. Without profits there is no improvements. Private insurance is far better at handling healthcare providers than Medicare is because of that profit motive. For example, it took Medicare 40 years to finally cover prescriptions where private insurance was already covering that. A lot of doctors refuse medicare due to the low payments. So yes, providers will see a cut. And saying other nations figured it out is flawed. They have many shortcomings as well . M4A will not cost less unless we lower our expectations of what healthcare is. You can't increase demand by around 10% and not expect prices to go up. This is very basic economics.
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@uzumakiangelus , what do you mean more people die now? What do you base that off of? I am all for improving the system, but we should work with the system we have now. Yes, it has issues, but it is not terrible. You talk about drug prices, do you think capping drug prices will not lead to other issues? Do you really think pharmaceutical companies will be just willing to lower drug prices and not change something else? Also, one reason why drugs are so expensive in this nation is because it subsidizes R&D for other drugs that never see the market. Do you want to hinder our R&D essentially lowering our quality?
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@jordanmercier3616 , that is just one of many studies. That 40,000 stat you give is very misleading. To start, what do you have to compare that to? Nothing. So you can't say if that is high, low or average. Next, those individuals are poor and bad health is associated with those poverty as mentioned by Katherine Baicker. To extend, there are higher rates of obesity, smoking and type II diabetes with the poor, all self inflicted. So the question is do they die due to bad health or due to lack of access? You can't tell.
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@jordanmercier3616 , it isn't a silly argument. Based on this study even with access to healthcare their physical health was still poor https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321 "This randomized, controlled study showed that Medicaid coverage generated no significant improvements in measured physical health outcomes in the first 2 years," In the US most of the time bad health comes from poor lifestyles such as poor diets and lack of exercise. I will admit there are benefits in giving access to healthcare to the poor. But it will come at a cost. The poor are not healthy because of poor lifestyle choices. They make bad decisions and some are leeches. In short, most of the time they are poor for a reason and it is because of lack of responsibilities. If you want to give access to healthcare to those individuals the reality is something has to give, or we will be spending a shit ton of money on healthcare that no amount of taxes will be able to cover. These are the difficult conversations the far left is not willing to have and they do what you do which is dismiss them.
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@jordanmercier3616 , I don't want some corrupt cabinet member negotiating my drug prices.
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He sounded pathetic.
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@mrjollyguy25 , he just shouted his usual talking points. He isn't going to convince anyone this time around.
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@mrjollyguy25 , when all you have are talking points he makes it easy. Bernie is not going to gain traction with his approach this time around.
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@mrjollyguy25 , they are talking points. Bernie is pushing radical reform, he better come with specifics. He hasn't because it shows he put zero thought into it.
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@uzumakiangelus you need to convince moderates to win the election
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Michael ARMIJO , exactly. Bernie hardly budged in the polls after this debate. Problem is that Bernie has not change his message nor his approach. In 2016 his approach worked as the nation was emotional, but not today. Today the nation is much happier as the country is improving. They are skeptical of Bernie's radical ideas and after 3 years of thinking about it they have more doubt about them. Throwing his arms in the air and saying we can do M4A with no details is not going to work this time around.
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@countdeku646 , more like you don't like Bernie being challenged. Bernie is not challenged enough. If he is going to impose radical ideas he should be asked difficult questions.
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