Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Swamp Thing Paul Ryan’s Snide Lies About Medicare For All" video.

  1. This is true to a degree. When the money runs out no one gets it.
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  2.  @silverceleste7260 , so me giving facts is me not being honest? And when have I been corrected?
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  3. Rompelstaump, that is not what the study says.
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  4. nuke4sen, Kyle does say the same talking points over and over again. I feel he is starting to go crazy, especially now that Trump is success and many of the candidates he supports, like Ocasio-Cortez, are complete jokes.
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  5. The NHS already existed. As with the US you can't just completely change a healthcare system that drastically so you have to keep it. Just like Republicans will never completely do away with Medicare.
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  6. Up to 7000 people die a year in Australia waiting for "elective" care. Same happens in other nations.
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  7. It is a huge debate as when you dig deep the US system in on par with other nations.
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  8.  @mannysikario , the US does many things well. That is amazing considering our massive size. How many nations has 100+ million people, universal healthcare and a strong economy? The US has some of the best quality of care. We offer more advanced care. We lead the world in R&D. Not saying the system is perfect, there is room for improvement. But it is great in many ways. We should improve the system we have, not replace it.
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  9. How did he lie?
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  10. Kalepsis, I disagree. Most of what he says is true.
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  11.  @Kalepsis , most of what he said is true. I have to go to the gym but when I get back I can break down why.
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  12. Altception, the government takes $50 from you and then spends $60, now they need $10. Also, the government promises you things so why should you work. Now you have less money due to you not working and the government taking more. Eventually the government will spend more and you will work less running out of money.
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  13. C Wilson, that is not what the study says. I know the study has a lot of words where you like picture books, but I suggest you read it someday.
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  14. Srtikewing, in those nations they don't pay for everything. Also, they lack in R&D in healthcare and have limited supplies in healthcare so yes, they do have problems.
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  15.  @shortkari  , every country has limited supplies.
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  16.  @mrs.witchyperfect9846 , I actually give a lot of facts. I can counter almost everything Kyle says if you want.
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  17. Justice, there is plenty of evidence that single payer is not that great. I never said it was a 'bad" thing. I am arguing that the US is on par with other nations. Read the book entitled "The Business of Health"
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  18. robert, I never go on TYT's videos. Also, I am hardly corrected.
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  19. Justice, so silent people you disagree with? I can provide you more sources related to healthcare if you want.
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  20. Justice, the book is by two professors who are experts in their field.
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  21. So suggesting a book by two professors who are experts in their field is not supporting evidence? Also, the book is online in PDF format, so you don't have to waste paper. And what makes it "bullshit"? Just saying it is is not an argument.
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  22. robert, medicare for all will not cost less. And the US arguably does not have worse outcomes. And on, not everyone will be covered as there are limited resources. You say you can provide sources and I bet I can counter every single one of them. You have talking points, I have looked at this issue in depth. Go beyond the talking points and actually research the topic.
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  23. Justice, they are professors who do research in that field. What is wrong in that book? Have you read it? I doubt it at this point. I gave you evidence and you push to silence me.
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  24. Justice, it doesn't load for me.
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  25. Don't worry, I found a way to access it
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  26. Ok, breaking it down Myth 2: Access to care: They focus only on US stats and not others. To start, saying there are 45 million without insurance is an issue of why is insurance healthcare? That is a whole different discussion in itself but this article is doubling down on that idea of insurance being healthcare and refusing to address that problem. Next, many of those 45 million are poor and poor people always lack resources in all nations. Saying 60 million lack insurance at some point in the year is a lot to do with employer based insurance which is, once again, a problem of insurance being healthcare. A lot of our problems are due to lack of a free market. In the run down of the stats they gave they gave zero comparisons to other nations. They said mainly "X amount of people lack insurance". Ok, and? The ER cannot deny anyone, so based on that no one lacks care. It is one reason why healthcare is so expensive in the US. In other nations people have died or ended up worse off due to waiting. In Australia up to 7000 die a year waiting for "elective" surgery. In Canada people have died waiting for "elective" heart surgery. Read the following reports "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" and "Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" In New Zealand people have ended up worse off financially, physically and psychologically due to wait times. Read the report entitled "Waiting for elective surgery: effects on health-related quality of life" Myth 2: You can't be denied in the ER, that is why it is overcrowded. That law is our "universal healthcare". Also, they picked LA, the 2nd largest city in the nation with a large immigration population from Mexico, hmmmm..... Myth 7: Cost Containment: In other nations they lack in R&D. They offer less quality of care, for example, the US offers more CT scans than other nations. Things like that raise costs. In nations like Canada they keep costs down by rationing advanced care. Myth 10: Administrative costs are deceptive in that Medicare can pass costs onto other agencies such as the CDC or IRS. On myth 4 they give zero references and say the people in the US don't get better care. So I am supposed to trust that? I can go on but you get the point. There is a reason why this paper was cited only 4 times despite being 13 years old.
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  27. Those programs are ran and funded locally. Also, 70% of fire fighters are volunteer. And those programs are a drop in the bucket in terms of cost compared to healthcare.
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  28. It can't for many reasons.
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  29. Frank Lance, some places have private fire departments still. Also, it does matter if they are volunteer as they don't have to do the job.
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  30. Christine M, I care about my community as well. I am highly active in it.
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  31. alieninsurgent, many factors influence life expectancy. In you remove car accidents and murders from all nations the US is number 1 in life expectancy. Saying that other countries have better results is simply not true, and no nation covers everyone.
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  32. mahal3680, so some random guy who claims to be Canadian giving their anecdotal experience is all you need? You do know Steven Crowder made a video about Canada's healthcare system as well. I know a lot about healthcare. The fact that your only rebuttal is to try to silence me shows how little you know.
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  33. alieninsurgent, every nation has shortcomings as well. You talk about life expectancy but again, many factors influence it. If you remove car accidents and murders from all nations the US is number 1 in life expectancy. The US is number 1 in obesity rates for OECD nations. In Australia up to 7000 people die a year on waiting lists waiting for "elective" care.
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  34. @alieninsurgent , the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare says otherwise.
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  35. @alieninsurgent , you don't need access to healthcare to eat healthy. In fact, people with healthcare insurance are more likely to be obese. You learn about proper diet in K-12 education.
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  36.  @franklance9167 , volunteers can decide to quit. Also, it shows how little resources we have when we need volunteers. Same is in schools. What makes you think the government can afford healthcare when they can't even pay fire fighters?
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  37.  @jasonyoung4529 , not true. They are ran locally.
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  38. @alieninsurgent, read the book "The Business of Health". That is where I get the life expectancy point from.
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  39.   , but a random person on youtube is credible? Also, he released the entire video.
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  40. @alieninsurgent , a lot of times links don't copy, but look up "Elective surgery waiting times 2016-2017: Australian hospital statistics" Click the "data" link and download the excel spreadsheet. Go to table 2.4. You are welcome.
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  41. Frank, Bernie cannot change how taxes are spent on local programs like education and police.
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  42. Frank, that isn't how our government works. The federal government cannot control local taxes and spending. Also, Congress controls taxes and spending at the federal level, not the presidency.
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  43. Frank, Congress writes and passes laws, not the president. Also, if the federal government were to push such a bill there will be huge lawsuits from the states making the law essentially dead. You really need to learn how our government functions. States don't have to follow federal standards.
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  44. Frank, executive orders don't work like that. Congress controls taxes and spending. As for the 1st amendment, that is in the Constitution. That is not federal law but limitations on all governments. If the president has such powers than why didn't Trump just pass his tax bill without Congress? Why didn't Trump use an executive order to confirm Kavanaugh?
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  45. alieninsurgent, if you need emergency care the ER cannot turn you away. A study done in Oregon led by a Harvard professor showed that even if you give access to healthcare to people their physical well being does not improve. That 45,000 people are poor and bad health due to self inflicted issues, like obesity, are associated with being poor. So the question becomes do they die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? People near the end of life have many complications. Read the book entitled "Being Mortal" on that issue. Bringing up that 45,000 stat is very deceptive as there is plenty of evidence to suggest that even if they had access they would not be better off.
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  46. Frank, that isn't how it works. You can't say universal healthcare is a right because rights are listed in the Constitution. Rights are things the government cannot take away from you without due process. Every lawyer will argue that and the SC will shoot that down on a 9-0 vote. The federal government is actually very restricted in what they can do. For example, the FDA can only enforce laws dealing with commerce between states. If a bottle manufacturing company creates bottles that violated FDA standard but they sell it in that state and no where else than the FDA can't do anything. You have little idea how executive orders work. The president can't just make laws, Congress does that. The president can't just create taxes, Congress does that. Your line of thinking makes the president to be a king.
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  47. Frank, Casey v PP more or less made Roe v Wade irrelevant. I suggest you read up on that case. Roe v Wade made a ruling on a constitutional right. Case v PP gave powers to the states. You need to study more law.
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  48. @alieninsurgent, other nations don't implement our system for the same reason we don't implement their's. The systems are so established and so strong radical changes are not needed. Where you you want me to Google? Daily Wire? Steven Crowder?
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  49.  @MrAapasuo , it is also telling how no state has established a universal healthcare system. Saying other nations do it is not an argument as they all have different systems. Also, they all have shortcomings as well. Healthcare is way more complex than that.
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  50. @alieninsurgent, the Commonwealth Fund is a private special interest groups. Do you even know how they come up with their rankings? They look at life expectancy when many factors outside of healthcare influence overall life expectancy. For example, you remove all car accidents and murders the US is number 1 in life expectancy. They look at amenable mortality where measuring that is difficult. Read the paper entitled " Amenable mortality as an indicator of healthcare quality-a literature review" It is difficult to use amenable mortality as other nations have different standards in how they measure it and other factors outside of healthcare influence it. Why are you so quick to trust the Commonwealth Fund? Have you even read the methods in how they developed their rankings? At this point it isn't so much about what's right or what's wrong but more of how if you are going to have an opinion on this topic you should read up on it and not blindly follow something.
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  51.  @interdimensionalsteve8172  , I am here to have an intellectual discussion. Noticed how it has been over 5 hours since I responded to your comment? It is because I do have a life and I do other things. I just don't sit there rubbing my hands looking for a response. I am looking for an intelligent conversation on this complex, but interesting topic. Apparently you aren't. Paul Ryan said a of factual things in this speech. You haven't shown how he is wrong. Saying that someone is wrong is not an argument.
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  52.  @rockywood712  , that $32 trillion is a low estimate and chances are it would cost a lot more. Also, that number was just for public care and does not include the price for private.
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  53.  thewanderandhiscomp , up to 7000 people die a year in Australia while waiting for "elective" surgery. A major problem with that 45,000 stat is that they are people who are poor and bad health is associated with those in poverty. Poor individuals have higher rates of obesity and smoking which are self inflicted. So the question becomes do they die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? People who die due to health complications are in bad shape to begin with. Even if you give them access to healthcare chances are they will still die. Read the book entitled "Being Mortal" where that author discusses that.
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  54. Saberspear, I agree with you on that 7000. But you have to keep the same standards when discussing this issue. You can't move the goal posts here.
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  55. alieninsurgent, why do you trust the WHO so much? You do know their ranking was criticized so much they have not created another on in nearly 20 years.
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  56.  @interdimensionalsteve8172  , so you are Canadian but then claim I am not American? You claim that I am from a different country that wants to divide it? But then you claim you want to help America even though you are not from there? One, what makes you think I am not from the US? What evidence do you have? Next, what makes you think I don't want to help the US? Just because I have a different opinion in how to improve something does not mean I don't want to help the US. This is why we have a president like Trump and why the left is ridiculed by many. They, and people like you, simply dismiss the other side as if we don't want to help. You dismiss the other side as if they want to divide the nation. You refuse to hear their situation or ideas and take them into account when pushing for new policy. In the debate against Cruz Bernie Sanders was asked by a hair salon owner how she can afford to pay for healthcare for her employees. Bernie simply said "I don't know". He gave no advice, he had no desire to try to understand her position such as her profit margins, how many full time and part time employees she had, how many are short term vs long term, how much she pays in bills, etc. He has no desire to understand other people's position. In 1994 Bill Clinton was posed a similar question by Herman Cain. Clinton at least showed he understood the struggles businesses go through using actual numbers. He understand his new bill will add more to a business and was willing to listen and understand other people's side. Right now the political left refuses to listen and try to understand the other side's position and where they are coming from. At this point all I can say is keep doing it. Trump will keep winning at that point. Maybe you will eventually learn come 2024 when we get a new Republican president, the radical democrats are ran out of office and hopefully replaced with more moderate ones, and Trump was a huge success, or maybe not.
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  57. Deez Nuts, you have no evidence of your claim. Read Steve's comment, he said he would not be surprised if I was from another country. And you claim I can't read?
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  58. Steve, the Bernie comment is justified. I don't expect him to fully understand everything, but he should try to understand that business owner's position. He should try to understand what her profit margins are compared to similar companies, how much her bills are, taxes, etc. If they can't provide that than that is their fault. But Bernie never tried to understand their position. Bernie trying to understand the other person's position is showing they are willing to learn and adjust if needed. Bernie has no desire for that. As I said, if the business owner did not have the data or facts then they are at fault. But if they did and Bernie refuses to listen then he is at fault. Reality is that no law is ideal and a law will harm someone and benefit others. The question was related to Obamacare and yes, it harmed that business owner from expanding, but Obamacare did expand coverage to more people. I actually listen to the other side and see where they are coming from. People on the left, like Bernie, don't. That is the problem. What was wrong with Kavanaugh? I do defend him for several reasons. You are done as you cannot form an argument. You have gone to the point where you can't defend your ideas. Mix in with Trump being successful and you can't admit that maybe you are in the wrong. Again, I take on other opinions and see where they are coming from, I suggest you do the same thing. Right now you don't. That is why you are running away and throw insults with zero justifications.
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  59.  @jojoboko6990 , you still haven't given a rebuttal on the life expectancy point. They did use actual data.
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  60.  @jojoboko6990 , how do I strengthen your argument?
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  61.  @jojoboko6990 , at the state level the variables are reduced. That is why we have state rights. You can micromange those issues more. What is easier? Buying sandwiches for 5 people or buying for 200 to 300 people? Also, you still haven't said anything to counter that book. They did use real data. You haven't shown anything to suggest they haven't. Also, they showed why they used GDP, it is to relate it to healthcare spending. The point was that changing variables, even the slightest, creates major differences in the stats because many variables influence the data. That is what makes the healthcare argument complex.
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  62.  @deeznutsanyachin2027  , I haven't addressed your rebuttal because you don't get it. If I were to post one of my papers I published, even with my name blacked out, you can search for it online and find it with my name on it.
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  63.  @jojoboko6990  , they did use real data. That is how you do analysis in statistics. You weigh them and look at how they influence each other to see a correlation. What they did was see how GDP per capita, car accidents and murders influenced life expectancy. Why? Because many factors outside of healthcare influence overall life expectancy. You don't seem to understand what "real data" is. He explained why he left Luxembourg off the list as it is a small nation. The current city I live in has more people than in Luxembourg. That nation is also a tax haven and high in tourism which inflates their GDP per capita. The overall point of this, and this is what Prof. Ohsfeldt admitted to in an interview later. It is not to say that the US is number 1 in life expectancy. It is to show that many factor influence overall life expectancy outside of healthcare. Most of those healthcare rankings use overall life expectancy. That makes those rankings flawed. Read the WSJ article entitled "Does the US Lead in Life Expectancy?" It boils down to that healthcare is complex. You can't just say one nation does it better as there are many ways to look at it.
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  64. jojo, they admitted that their method was a simple regression model. There are many ways to look at life expectancy. There isn't one solid way to do it. That is what makes this issue complicated. They did use life expectancy. When people use life expectancy they look at overall life expectancy. But in doing so that means you are including all factors that influence life expectancy and not just healthcare. Healthcare rankings are arbitrary. I never said that these authors' rankings is the end all for debate. The point was that there are many factors that influence the overall stats people use to discuss healthcare. Just looking at life expectancy has many flaws as there are factors outside of healthcare that influence that. Same with looking at amenable mortality. I don't run with the talking point as "fact" but as an example of how simple changes can drastically change the data and that there is more to the stats than just healthcare.
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  65. jojo, people are so quick to point to rankings as if they are fact but when I throw a stat out there to suggest otherwise you claim the data is not "real". Not a solid argument on your part.
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  66.  @jojoboko6990 , I tout that stat to show how healthcare rankings are arbitrary. I can admit there are shortcomings to it. I can admit there are flaws in it. I am open to this issue, you apparently aren't as you refuse to understand my position. I am all for improving healthcare, but it is a complex issue. To point to an arbitrary ranking or to say "other nations do it better" is over simplifying the issue. That is a problem and that hinders progress.
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  67. Defense spending is 4% of GDP and has been dropping for years. Welfare programs have been increasing in cost for years.
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  68. The CommonWealth Fund is a private organization that has a special interest. Their "study" is not reliable.
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  69.  @mahal3680 , I will argue against them and have. What's your point? I will even argue against Kyle on this topic. I am not scared.
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  70. Where did he lie?
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  71. Frank, one can argue that Medicare for all will be more expensive than our current system.
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  72. Frank, what I said is not a lie. It is an economic fallacy to say that increasing demand without increasing supply will lead to lower costs.
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  73.  @davidbrowne6371 , the study said it was a conservative estimate and that chances are it would be much higher. It also assumed that costs will not go up despite demand going up and that healthcare providers will be willing to take a 40% pay cut. Also, that $32.6 trillion was just for public care alone. If you read the paper they included private care as well which would be closer to $50 trillion over 10 years.
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  74. Uh, what?
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  75. Trickle down economics is not even an economic term.
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  76. Aron, it doesn't exist as economics is more complex than that. It is a political term designed to appeal to emotions as opposed to arguing the points.
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  77. Deez Nuts Anya Chin, we can always do the leftists' version of "trickle down economics", have the Fed give money to the rich like they did with QE.
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  78.  @MrGrass97 , Trickle Down was developed long before Reagan was alive. It was a phrase brought up by democrats.
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  79. Watching this video I can see why people don't want to debate Kyle. He has no maturity and little knowledge on these issues.
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  80. Ch33to Sesh, I would say that Kyle lives in a bubble. Coulter has been on many debates, same with Candace.
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  81.  Ch33to Sesh , it would be a waste of time. It would be like playing a child in chess and having them smash the pieces and claim they won.
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  82.  Ch33to Sesh , Kyle lives in a bubble. I am impressed he is debating someone to begin with. If he backed out I would not have been surprised.
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  83. Kyle is extremely bias and is completely wrong on this issue.
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  84. I have talked to many people. I have heard different opinions.
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  85.  @laleau92  , there are many ways but on is when he cites the Commonwealth Fund. To start, that is a private organization that is a special interest group. They have a motive making their ranking very questionable. Their ranking looked at overall life expectancy when many factors outside of healthcare influence that. For example, you remove car accidents and murders the US is number 1 in life expectancy. That ranking also considers amenable mortality which is difficult to use. Read the report entitled "Amenable mortality as an indicator of healthcare quality-a literature review" To take something as complex as healthcare and reduce it down to an arbitrary ranking is very ignorant. Healthcare is very complex and there are many angles to look at it. Kyle just foolishly throws out a ranking from a questionable source because it suits his narrative.
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  86. No, he will turn people off.
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  87. He is an immature jack ass and he wonders why people refuse to debate him. Also, he is very ignorant on these topics.
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  88.  @adrijan6510 , I can crush Kyle. He is not that challenging. He is a child. Why would people want to debate that?
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  89. He starts talking in funny voices as if he is funny. And he is uniformed. he says the same talking points over and over again.
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  90. What did he make up? When did Ryan lie? I can point to many times Kyle is completely wrong.
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  91. J Wildberry, it isn't the worse. The US does many things well and other nations have many shortcomings.
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