Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Man Attempts Suicide After 'Faith-Based' Program Replaces Meds With Prayer" video.

  1. Look at it like this. One problem we have is that doctors who refuse to help people and instead just prescribe drugs. A lot of people with mental problems need consoling or simply a sense of belonging, not drugs.
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  2. +Alex xeon Shhhh, liberals don't like science when it goes against their beliefs.
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  3. +Alexis Lopez Nope, I mean regressive liberals. They all talk about science, but when something like this that is linked to evolution happens, they don't speak a word about science. Regressive liberals are anti-science.
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  4. +Artificial Escapades But with universal healthcare you will have the other problem of doctors just giving out medications to treat symptoms. People have mental health problems for several reasons. One way that it can be cured it just giving people consoling and a sense of belongs. With overworked doctors it will just be easier to give them drugs. And a few months later another one. I have a sibling and a friend with mental health. They both use healthcare offered by the state. It is just that, bouncing from one drug to the next. They are really no longer human or productive. Can't keep a job, can't live on their own. My sibling is 30 with a masters but is legally no longer considered an adult. Drugs ruined them. It will be worse with universal healthcare.
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  5. Too many people are on drugs anyway. I really don't see a problem with this. This guy has problems. If he can't handle them then survival of the fittest will consider him weak and he will die off. Science.
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  6. +Insufferable Realist Jackanapes Yes, and it fits this case. This person was weak mentally and thus he will die early. Evolution.
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  7. +Insufferable Realist Jackanapes Nope
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  8. +Insufferable Realist Jackanapes As a result of evolution we had people who created toilets and those who properly use them do well in life.
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  9. +LeCheckmate " If mentally ill people don't take their drugs, they end up like this and try to commit suicide or harm others." One, they are a weak member of our species and them dying is just evolution taking place. Next, I know many people on drugs that are supposed to "cure" them. They end up being different people. At that point it doesn't matter if they are dead. One of my good friends is different now that they are taking drugs. I really see no difference anymore in them being on drugs or being dead.
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  10. +LeCheckmate Nope. I suggest that we find a way to help them that doesn't necessarily involve taking drugs.
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  11. +Eyrika E. 1. If they can't make it then they are week. People face problems all the time. There are people with diabetes, cancer, who had children die, lose their jobs and so on and make it. 2. I talked to my friend about the drugs they take. They don't like it. At this point you can't just get off them cold turkey because it will lead to more problems. "Would you tell somebody that died from cancer that they were weak because they lost the battle?" I can't, they are dead. "Mental illness is another illness just like any other" Not really. We know very little about the brain. The brains controls so much of our body though. When someone's heart doesn't work right I tell them to live a healthy life.
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  12. +Eyrika E. If someone dies from any disease they are weak. Sorry but science is science. I talked to the Dr., they are a joke. I questioned their doctorate credentials. Also I never told my friend to stop taking meds, I told them to find a way to get off of them but consult a doctor to do it.
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  13. +koyzish I love how anti-science regressive liberals are
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  14. +Charla Lee Actually compared to other species we are very strong. We live longer than a lot of species. " Mental illnesses have existed for thousands of years but we have the treatment to help mentally ill people instead of killing them or locking them away and throwing away the key. " Actually we do lock them away in some cases. And giving them medications which changes their personality is not really a solution. "Mental illness is a chronic disease like diabetes so I want you to tell a diabetic that they need to get off of insulin and talk to a psychologist instead of taking their meds and see how many teeth you still have left after saying that." Diabetes and insulin does not change your personality.
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  15. +Mckenzie .Latham Doctors are trained to do consoling. http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/md-program/current-students/curriculum In that example you have to take a psychiatry course.
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  16. +Mckenzie .Latham Doctors do a lot of consoling. They are not marriage counselors because they don't deal with marriages. They do deal with mentally ill people and will add in some consoling if needed.
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  17. +Charla Lee "So a change in personality is a good thing if they are on the right meds." Not really. If they get off of those meds will they continue to be better? Or will they be on meds their entire life? What does that do to their creativity, intelligence and other parts of the mind. Seems like people just calls someone crazy and gives them pills instead of trying to work with them. No different then ADHD and kids and giving them drugs. Imagine if we gave Gillian Lynne drugs when she was a kid. She probably never would have taken dance classes and never would have choreographed Cats. If you don't know the story of Gillian Lynne then watch the Ted Talk video with Ken Robinson. You can find it on Youtube entitled "Do Schools Kill Creativity?" at around 15 minutes. There he tells of the story of Gillian Lynne where a doctor saw her talents of being a dancer. But I guess the better route is to just give them drugs.
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  18. +Mckenzie .Latham Doctors so some counseling. You won't go to one get counseling but you will get some. They have a general idea. Just like me as a PhD student in physical chemistry I took biology courses and know some biology.
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  19. +Michael Jourdan You clearly don't understand evolution or science.
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  20. +Michael Jourdan You clearly don't. Weak species die and strong ones pass their genes on to future generations. That is one way evolution works.
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  21. +Michael Jourdan Someone who can't handle a little pain is weak. There are people who are born with diabetes, with heart problems, who have cancer, who have had children die and yet all continue to live on. How many of these people with mental health problems have good lives? Probably a lot. But they can't handle a little pain. They are weak.
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  22. +Michael Jourdan It isn't vague, this man tried to kill himself. He is weak. As I said, there are people who are in terrible situations but continue to push on. This guy was so weak that mentally he had no problem ending his life removing him from the gene pool. It is very clear, you just don't understand science.
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  23. +Michael Jourdan I can define "idiot" Michael Jourdan
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  24. +Michael Jourdan Because you are simply playing games. The guy wanted to kill himself because he could not mentally handle pain. He is weak and thus is being eliminated from the gene pool. That is evolution working.
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  25. +Michael Jourdan He is a guy who gives up easily, he is weak. it wasn't that he was in a major car accident and died, it is that he can't handle a little bit of pain in life and needs to end it. He is weak. The standards can't be more clear. I know it's just easier for you to "be right" than to actually think critically, but sometimes you have to step outside of your little box. You should actually study science for a living, maybe then you can think critically.
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  26. +Michael Jourdan "How do you know he can't handle a little pain in life? " Because he went the ultimate route to end pain. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. He is weak.
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  27. +Mckenzie .Latham No. But I do understand biology and chemistry to some degree and give my 2 cents on it.
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  28. +ASyntheticSoul So me realizing reality is me displaying hatred? I think you need to go back to your safe zone until you learn how to handle the truth.
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  29. +Master Markus I agree. I feel medication should be a last resort. Anymore these days it is where they go to immediately.
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  30. +ASyntheticSoul Actually I am preparing to pursue pharmacy school after my current graduate studies. " Psychiatrists and doctors do talk to their patients and come up with a plan before they even start medication. " Kind of. Not really, especially if it isn't someone's personal doctor. "people are on those medications because it works" That is highly debatable as well. I can use ADHD for example. New drugs are constantly coming out for that each one with side effects. Working with a pharmacist one time he was opposed to giving people drugs knowing what harm they can do on the brain and how people become dependent on them. I am sorry but drugs should be a last resort but are unfortunately aren't.
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  31. +Michael Jourdan I agree with you to a point. My problem is that we are going the easy route much too often and giving people medications too soon. Since 2000 the rate of suicide has slightly increased. Now there are other factors involved as well, but if these drugs were so great, why did suicide go up?
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  32. +ASyntheticSoul For decades we never had medications. Now I am not pushing for that, but I am pushing for not going to medications so quickly. As I said in another comment, since 2000 suicide rates have increased slightly. Now that can be due to other issues. But considering how far we have advanced in drugs it begs the question why haven't they dropped? The same is with ADHD. ADHD diagnoses have been going up as well. Simply giving them a drug and telling them to behave is not the solution. In my recent special education course (a grad level course mind you) we discussed the drugs for ADHD and an actual pharmacist in there was opposed to putting people on drugs. We had a similar debate in that class like we are having now. The pharmacist put it bluntly that the second you open that door in life you are never getting out.
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  33. +cheesefrommysoul For some people with mental problems it is about having a sense of belonging and consoling. Doctors have a tendency to just prescribe drugs which isn't a solution a lot of times.
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  34. +Omar Hanbali You can now, by law, be on your parents insurance until you are 26.
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  35. +tom jones You can now, by law, be on your parents insurance until you are 26.
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  36. +Blair Kelly But yet drug companies and doctors don't? They have a tendency to just give out drugs instead of helping people.
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  37. +Jordan Clark In some cases no. They will simply prescribe you a drug and collect their check. Meds, a lot of time, attack a symptom, that's it.
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  38. +Brian Clayton I am implying that doctors don't get to the root of the problem. Granted, mental illness is a difficult situation. But too many doctors simply prescribe pills without giving actual help. There is a history of mental illness on my mom's side of the family. I hate it when members on my mom's side take drugs and don't try to handle the issue in other ways. I have battled depression and had suicidal thoughts. I found a way to get through it. Good diet, exercise, doing activities with a goal is the main thing to me. Not activities you enjoy but activities with a goal. My friend has mental problems and I told her constantly not to take drugs. She saw a doctor and the first thing they did was give her drugs. I was pissed and yelled at the doctor. I questioned his doctorate credentials right there in the waiting room. I see it as a joke that so many people are drugged up these days. It isn't solving a problem just taking pills.
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  39. +Blair Kelly I am not saying doctors are evil, I am saying that there are other methods they can push. Some of it is that doctors are overworked and will just take the easy route in prescribing medications. It is similar to ADHD diagnoses in children rising and them taking prescriptions for that when in reality all they need it to be handed a basketball and discipline. The second you open the door to medications you are going to have a hard time getting out, if at all. It comes down if you have to make it through life by taking pills daily then are you the person you are meant to be?
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