Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Man Can Finally Afford Doctor Visit After Winning Lottery, Has Stage 4 Cancer" video.

  1. "Very nice reply, quite a bit more then I expected." I always give long, detailed replies like that. Healthcare is a complex issue. That is what I do when I come to this channel, I give actual counter arguments to Kyle's simplistic comments. On healthcare no country covers everyone due to lack of resources. And that 45,000 number he keeps bringing up has been challenged in the past. Healthcare is a complex issue, making vague statements such as "healthcare is a right" or "other countries have single payer" is incredibly shallow.
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  2. Kyle lives in a bubble. He is too chicken shit to do it.
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  3. Austin, Kyle gives excuses in why he does not debate people and they are poor. He will not debate Crowder on false reasoning. One is that he claims that Crowder does not believe in climate change when Crowder has claimed he does, and said so numerous times. I do agree there is more to debating someone than just doing it, but Kyle has said he will not do it and made lame excuses while doing it. The fact he will not debate Crowder is enough for me.
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  4. "Another reason he doesn't debate, is because he doesn't want to allow stupid ideas to be seen." If they are so "stupid" he should have no problem destroying them. It is not a fair point as it is him living in a bubble. He can take down his opponents, show he is right and gain more views. "By debating he gives dumb ideas a platform to manifest, " They already have a platform though. Crowder has over 100,000 views on his videos. Kyle gets around 30,000. "Rather than assume it is fear (he has debated a Right-Winger before), perhaps he read something on Crowder that indicated this, and then decided not to debate him. " Saying "common sense" is a cop out. Crowder has posted numerous videos showing he believes in climate change. Kyle is showing is ignorance or arrogance by making the claim that Crowder does not believe it. Even that, if Crowder is so wrong then debate him. Prove that he is wrong to his audience. Kyle has said in the past that he supports giving the other guy free speech and then going on stage and showing how they are wrong. Why doesn't he do it?
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  5. "Kyle didn't critcize Crowder correctly, how does any of this connect to your original point? " Crowder approached Kyle to debate him and Kyle said now and one reason why is because he said that Crowder denies climate change. "Have you seen Crowder's comments on Climate Change (Twitter)?" I have, I agree with a lot of it. I agree to the points that we do not know to what degree man is playing a role in climate change. We do not know if it is a threat and it is debatable if government is the solution to the issue, if it is even a problem. Before you call me anti-science I am a scientist myself. I am a doctoral candidate in physical chemistry. In comparison to Kyle Crowder had an actual scientist on his show discussing the issue. Now does that make him right? No. There are things I disagree with on Crowder on the issue. But he has way more substance than Kyle does. Kyle just rants about the 97% stat that has been debunked long ago.
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  6. "It is easy to mistake Crowder for being against Climate Change." It isn't as Crowder has clearly said he believes in it. "Kyle incorrectly criticized Crowder," Even thought the sources are there for Kyle to look up. You can't criticize someone you know nothing about. " Kyle isn't denying debateing Crowder out of fear, but either ignorance or stupidity." Kyle is wrong though, and many have pointed that out. At that point what's Kyle's excuse?
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  7. "You have defended Trump not debating Bernie." Different circumstance. Trump is trying to win the presidency, why would he focus on other thing? A Crowder vs Kyle debate is simply a part of their show. "Oh wait, you're too scared doing anything but YouTube comment trolling." Actually I am a PhD candidate. Others take care of talking about issues.
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  8. It is 0.01% of the population. Over 30,000 a year die in traffic accidents a year. Do you suggest banning driving?
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  9. "Deaths due to traffic accidents, and deaths due to the inability to afford/have access healthcare are two significantly different things" They aren't as in they are the shortcomings in the systems we have. First rule of economics is that there is no such things as a free lunch, everything comes at a cost. With driving allowing people to drive greatly increases our productivity, but it comes at a cost of 30,000 deaths a year. We can make that 30,000 to be zero if we ban driving, but then our productivity will drop a lot. We allow driving because 30,000 is very small, 0.01% of the overall population. And they happen for numerous reasons where you cannot pinpoint one cause. For that 45,000 deaths you have to consider this factor. They are poor and bad health is associated with poverty to begin with. A Harvard professors brought this up in a counter argument against that 45,000 number as it is hard to get an accurate number to begin with. There are higher rates of obesity, type II diabetes and smoking with the poor. So the question becomes are they poor due to lacking healthcare access or due to being in bad health to begin with? With that in mind you have to next consider that no country had that number at zero. People die in every country due to lack of healthcare access due to limited resources. So now you have two situations here. One, that number is not zero anywhere, and two, that 45,000 is not an accurate number and is most likely lower than 45,000. But besides that, even if it is 45,000, and let us say it is a higher rate compared to other countries (where 0.01% is still small to me). The US leads the world in research and innovation in healthcare. That is where our system is strong. Other systems lack in that even though they "cover" everyone. Looking at that situation you have one of two situations. Either the very poor suffer with no access or bankruptcy. Or they really sick suffer with poor quality and no experimental and progressive care. The first situation is the US system, the other situation is every other country. Someone is going to suffer and it will always be the extreme. In the end the comparison is is legit as both are examples of opportunity cost. No country has that number as zero unless you lower the standard of "covered" or "access".
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  10. " lol false equivalence much?" Read my most recent comment. I stand by my comment. It is about opportunity cost. Tell me, how do you make that 45,000 to be zero when no other nation is able to do it?
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  11. Shezza, do you have an actual rebuttal? Or do you have a solution to make that 45,000 to be zero? If not then you comments are irrelevant.
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  12. " Dude the subject isn't hard. The fact that you are still comparing driving and healthcare already proves you're a moron. " How so? Saying it is is not an argument. I gave you my reasoning why, it is about opportunity cost. We can make that 30,000 to be zero if we ban driving, but the cost will be at lower productivity. With healthcare we can "cover" everyone by lowering the standard but the cost will be lower quality. "No, we aren't expecting everyone to live even with a single payer system. " Fine, then why bring up the 45,000 unless you are going to compare it to something? No one is comparing it to any numbers from other countries so at that point I have to assume that you feel that number is zero in other countries when it clearly isn't. "Even with treatment some people can be too far gone to be saved. However, what we are saying is that everyone should have an equal shot at being treated for whatever their condition may be without worrying about the cost." Problem is that is not the case. As I showed you people die on waiting lists meaning they die due to lack of access. They never received care as they were waiting for it. "No body should be forced to skip going to the doctor because they can't afford it." But happens in other nations. "These people are pay their fair share of taxes and the government should use some of that money to benefit the majority of the country rather than cater towards the rich and wealthy elites." Irrelevant talking point on this issue.
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  13. "The US is the leading country in medicine advancement, not leading healthcare" They go hand and hand. Health is very dynamic because of evolution. Diseases evolve giving high demand for new drugs. Also, many illnesses and problems have no cure creating the demand to find one, or just something in general. " The two are completely different. " Nope, they go hand and hand. Do you want to use 1800s techniques in providing someone care and make the claim they had "access" to healthcare? " Sure, maybe the people researching and developing these advancements are doing it in hopes of saving lives, but the people who fund them aren't." Dead people do not pay. They want to keep them alive so they can use more healthcare. If they are dead they cannot pay. Also, due to competition they will provide an actual useful drug so people buy their product instead of the competition's. "These advancements are then adopted and put in place in other countries healthcare system for next to nothing " Yes, other countries rely on our R&D.
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  14. My comparison to car accidents is to show you basic economics. Everything comes at a cost. If you cannot understand basic economics you cannot discuss the issue of healthcare. We need to get basics down first before we move onto advanced topics. It is like physics. You need to understand Newton's three laws before you study Lagrange mechanics and Hamiltonian dynamics.
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  15. Chen, the trend I have noticed lately is that Kyle is losing views (less than 16,000 views on this video for example), and his fans who comment are very myopic anymore. This channel is dying as intelligent people are moving elsewhere. So you can refuse to give me a rebuttal. Just remember you are a part of a dying breed.
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  16. There are multiple cases of people not getting treated in Canada and dying in waiting lists. Also, Razorfist points at one story, Kyle points at one story. At that point you have a push.
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  17. People want quick and easy solutions in life. That is why socialism becomes popular and fails on the large scale.
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  18. Sorry, but you can find horror stories in other countries as well. This one story is not an argument for or against the US system, or any system.
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  19. Easy, first, read these papers "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “   Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart   “Too many patients with cancer die in acute care hospitals despite palliative options: report" CMAJ
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  20. Next, here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2486789/Natasha-16-complained-headaches-She-died-13-doctors-failed-diagnose-brain-tumour.html http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/10/18/woman-whose-brain-is-dropping-out-skull-fundraising-for-life-saving-surgery.html https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/effect-of-wait-times-on-mortality-in-canada.pdf You were saying?
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  21. You did not have to wait very long.
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  22. bacascione, explain Obamacare. It was supposed to lower prices.
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  23. Except in other countries they would never do advance testing to detect cancer.
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  24. You can find horror stories like this in other countries as well. This does not persuade actual intelligent people on the healthcare issue.
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  25. bascascione, great, that is one story. I know a 60 year old woman with cancer, had it for 20 years and is still alive. Just got her college degree.
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  26. "Statistically other countries have much less people dying from untreated illnesses" That is not true. Also, there are horror stories from other countries of people dying due to shortcomings of their systems. You saying it is "common sense" means you do not have an argument. Researchers continue to research this topic as it is highly debated. "Greater access to healthcare means less deaths." Define access. You are going with vague talking points.
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  27. Praxis, if everyone has access in other countries, then why do people die on waiting lists?
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  28. " because no system works 100% perfectly all the time" I agree, but why does Kyle and a lot of his fans claims single payer does? " But the amount of people dying on waiting lists in countries with government funded healthcare is absolutely minuscule compared to the amount of Americans dying for not being able to afford treatment." How do you know? Do you have the numbers? So far no one has been able to provide them. Even at that at what cost does it comes from? The US leads the world in R&D.
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  29. " the majority of them don’t.Them and Kyle are not idealists. They know that it is better than what they have now. " If they don't that is fine, then why support Kyle? Why not call him out as I do? "Don’t need exact numbers. If there was people in my country, Ireland, uninsured and dying from not being able to afford healthcare with numbers adjusted for the population of us compared to you, we would be downgraded to a third world country. " Incredibly asinine comment. The US is not a third world country. Go to actual third world countries to see. I cannot take you serious if you go off of that. "Basically, if a government can afford to give healthcare to all its people" No government can which is why there are longer wait times and less R&D in those countries.
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  30. " so no other countries do advance testing for cancer?" No as the system is too clogged up. "are you pretending to be intelligent with a "but but but, other countries do it too" argument?" Others make the argument of "other countries do single payer". It goes both ways.
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  31. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FRznKQC3Ys
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  32. It is a valid point. What do you know about the healthcare system? I be almost nothing.
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  33. Healthcare is like furniture in that it is a commodity, someone has to provide it. I love how people just mock Shapiro but can never explain why he is wrong.
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  34. "and just like most commodities, the basic low level version should be very affordable." Define "affordable". Also, cancer treatment is not the "low level" of healthcare. " Food, water, clothing, shelter, cars, and even certain levels of education are very affordable for their most basic versions." Sure, but last I checked the cashier at the grocery store did not have to take 10+ years of post secondary schooling to work there. Doctors do. Last I checked the cars were much cheaper than equipment at hospitals. " Also, I know you are against paying for other people's healthcare, but we already do that. Our taxes go towards subsidies for the ACA, and hospitals charge insured people more to cover the costs of the uninsured patients." I do not agree with that system.
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  35. "What do you think insurance is? " Insurance is there to remove counter the inelasticity of demand of certain goods. There is an argument to be made that when you need healthcare you cannot shop around thus demand is inelastic. But that is what insurance is for, to cover that if you need it. Compare it to car insurance. If you get into a car accident the insurance company will pay for the repair and car rental to get you going and get your car fixed. But it does not pay for new tires and oil changes even though they are necessary for a long lasting, safe car. I do feel that the fact that insurance has equaled healthcare in this country is a problem, and that stems from the payroll tax and is another is discussion in itself. But so say that insurance is " You pay into it to help cover other people and other healthy people pay into it to help cover you when you get sick or hurt." is completely false. Many things in healthcare can be pre-planned such as pregnancies and routine checkups. Insurance should not have to cover those just like car insurance does not cover oil changes.
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  36. "The problem with health insurance, when compared to car insurance, is that doctors and hospitals can be "out of network". Even doctors can be out of network at in network hospitals." I agree, that is a problem. A major reason why is because we do not have a free market system in healthcare.
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  37. " Childbirth is the #1 reason why people even go to the hospital, yet the prices for giving birth are usually $20,000-$32,000. " Yes, because there is no negotiation between the consumer and provider. Insurance companies are involved. Pregnancies are optional for responsible people. Insurance should not be covering it. But because of the payroll tax healthcare insurance has become healthcare. We lack a free market in healthcare.
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  38. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FRznKQC3Ys
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  39. No system covers everyone. In other countries they would not do advanced testing to check for cancer. That is why they have lower survival rates.
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  40. "The US has the lowest life expectancy of any first world nation." Due to several factors beyond healthcare. If you remove car accidents and murders of all nations the US is number 1 in life expectancy. There is more to life expectancy than just healthcare.
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  41. Wait lists exist for "elective" hearth surgery as well in Canada and people die on it. Read the following papers. "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “   Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart
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  42. Mckenzie .Latham, waiting lines exist all over the place. Read the paper “The Ethics and Reality of Rationing in Medicine” Chest Also, read the papers I posted in my other comments. People die on waiting lists.
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  43. "but ours is better for many reasons." Objectively it isn't.
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  44. Ok, I will start by linking this book https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf When you look at the outcomes the numbers are so minute in the differences that many factors beyond healthcare can play a role. For example, in that book they remove car accidents and murders for all countries and showed that the US is number 1 in life expectancy. With infant mortality rate the US has a high rate of pre-term births. When you factor that in the US is comparable to the rest of the world according to a CDC report. Just looking at the raw data is flawed as many factors play a role. The differences are minute and anything can play a role. The US has a higher rate of obesity and spend over 40% of their food dollar eating out where in other countries that rate is much lower. This is not to say the US is better, but to say that other countries are better is objectively not so.
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  45. I know, for all of the complaints about the healthcare system by leftists they have no excuses.
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  46. "Don't recall very many people from this channel ever liking Obamacare." It is what you wanted, government controlled healthcare. They placed restrictions on insurance companies. "It's a privatized method of enforcing healthcare onto everyone," Single payer is no different. The private sector still provides the care, it does not matter if the government flips the bill or insurance companies. "Also we all know you're a committed troll, I have to admire your dedication to kyle's channel, it truly is one of the most impressive feats accomplished by any troll. " Definition of a troll: Someone who disagrees with me. I posted peer reviewed papers on this issue. Kyle is about as wrong as someone can be on healthcare. This is why he posts appeal to emotion stories about one guy as opposed to actual studies related to healthcare.
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  47. I do not comment on every video,and when I do I provide a coherent, and intelligent counter argument. A troll provides zero substance to the discussion. I provide counter arguments. The fact that you call me a troll, at this point, is a badge of honor as you cannot counter what I say so you just name call and move on.
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  48. And I can see you ran away as well. There is a reason why this channel is dying.
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  49. " Right wingers like you should support single payer since it would help businesses. One of the main reasons why corporations outsource jobs and why small businesses have a hard time expanding is because they have to provide employees with healthcare" Why do businesses pay with healthcare to begin with? Because it is a tax free way to pay employees. With the payroll tax if an employer pays with higher wage they have to pay a higher tax. Remove the payroll tax and businesses will not have to pay for it. You want to add more government when we can reduce government and achieve the same result. With your idea employees will be earning less.
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  50. "Trump won because he campaigned on jobs and infrastructure, and that won him the Rust Belt which in turn helped him win the election." He connected with the common man something the left is failing at. .
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  51. "Pink, your game is dying." Actually this channel is dying. Less views (less than 16,000 views on this video) and the fans that are still around are very myopic. Anyone with intelligence has left at this point. This is why when I give a response and post actual peer reviewed sources I get called a troll. That is the level of the viewers of this channel any more.
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  52. "Bernie is doing just fine connecting to the common man. He is the most popular politician in America for a reason." He is likeable, that's it. In terms of policies he is not popular. When pushed in the debate against Cruz he said he will raise everyone's taxes, a very unpopular position in the US. And when challenged by workers and business owners in the middle class he became perturbed and could not connect at all with anyone. How he treated that hair salon owner is a great example.
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  53. " Employees have to pay for their health insurance." Employers pay for a portion of it and in some cases all of it. My employer pays for all of my healthcare insurance.
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  54. "That's the thing. Almost all of his policies are popular. 60% want Medicare for all. 80% want to raise the minimum wage (I do too, just not to $15). 89% want to end the wars in the Middle East. 92% want to rebuild our infrastructure. 65% want free college." A couple things. One, those polls are very vague. When put up to a vote in Colorado 80% said no to universal healthcare. Why? They were given more information on how much it would cost and how high taxes would be. Next, we do not run our country on polls. If they are so popular states would be doing them. "Most Americans are only against higher taxes because right now, a lot of our taxes go towards corporate welfare and the military industrial complex." Defense spending is a small portion of our overall budget, and the tax cuts seem to be popular.
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  55. " Most employers don't do that, and the insurance they offer is subpar to a Medicare for all system." Most employers do, and they are better than medicare.
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  56. "Political channels are going to be less popular after the election is over" According to SocialBlade, his views have been declining since March of 2016.
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  57. "I could go on but I find discussing things with you to be pointless. Probably why you get called names, honestly. " I doubt you cold go on or you will. "Please. Obama? Left? " He is left wing. How is he isn't?
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  58. "most Americans oppose the tax cuts" If you want to go off of polls the cuts are becoming popular
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  59. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBpunmf5p4U
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  60. I have a life. "Well, fuck me, I don't know where to begin but I am certain you already know how Obama isn't left-wing" Maybe, but I am asking you. If it is so easy you should be able to give examples.
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  61. "Government has a magic wand" Kyle Kulinski
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  62. Deez, I never said that as I realize there are limitations in resources. The government cannot wave a magic want and create things despite the belief of Kyle.
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  63. Canada has long wait times where people do die "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “   Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart Healthcare is rationed due to lack of resources “The Ethics and Reality of Rationing in Medicine” Chest Those are papers to read.
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  64. One can find horror stories like this in every nation. This one story should not persuade anyone's opinion on healthcare. There are documented reports of people dying on wait lines. Read the following papers "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “   Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart
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  65. VitalVampyr, I have not read the Forbes argument, but I have yet to hear a leftist, such as Kyle or Bernie, explain how single payer actually works. Or show how each country does it.
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  66. "How it works? The government pays for healthcare. Simple." What is their tax system like? What are their private options? How do they ration healthcare? How much do they pay doctors and equipment and in training? There is a lot to it. That is just scratching the surface. Saying "government pays for it" is oversimplifying a complex issue. This is why leftists always lose the healthcare debate.
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  67. "Exagerated waiting lines can happen under any system." They happen when you increase demand without increasing supply. Supply does not go up in a socialized system compared to a capitalist system. "The solution is to fix the problem rather than privatizing healthcare." Allowing the private market to reign is a solution.
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  68. "The demand you're talking about is people's lives. " Demand is generate by people. No matter what the demand is resources will be the limiting factor. I understand your emotional side of the argument, and I support it. But you have to use logic and reasoning here and realize supplies are limited. "Your solution to healthcare waiting lines is 'poor people should go die in the streets so that the rich are guaranteed speedy care'." Not at all. Even using Kyle's number of 45,000, which I have shown numerous times to be deceptive, that is 0.01% of the overall population. Our poverty rate is around 15%. It seems like poor people are getting healthcare.
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  69. "I know for a fact that's a lie. It's certainly not Kyle or Bernie's fault you're an ideologically blinded dumbass whose relentless, wilful ignorance preempts you from understanding simple concepts like "taxpayer funded", "non-profit health insurance", or "for all". " Those are talking points. I will agree that "non-profit" is clear, but define "for all"? What standard? Is getting a bottle of Advil for a tumor being classified as covered? I can easily lower the standard of "access" to that and have healthcare "for all". With "tax payer funded" what will be the quality? What will be the tax rate? How will it influence the economy? How do other countries do it? You need details. " To say nothing of marginally more advanced concepts like "spend half as much on healthcare per capita" or "have better health outcomes in almost every measurable category". " It very much is because you are ignoring several factors. From this paper alone “Comparisons of Health Care Systems in the United States, Germany and Canada” Mater Sociomed "Part of the gap between US and Canadian health care costs may be explained by a failure to account for Canadian hospital’ capital costs, larger proportion of elderly in the United States and higher level of spending on research and development in the US." And that is from just one source. There are easily many others that give several variables leading to differences in cost. Also, in terms of outcomes, they do not produce better outcomes. "One certainly cannot find horror stories like this in any industrialized nation but the US" Oh, that is not true, read these papers of people dying on waiting lists "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. “  "Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart Or read the story entitled "Natasha, 16, complained of headaches. She died after 13 doctors failed to diagnose a brain tumour"
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  70. "It is simple. It can be done with any tax system. You dont need to raise the taxes" You do have to raise taxes. Other countries pay more in taxes. "There is no rationing." Yes there is. "Everyone who needs healthcare gets it. " No they dont'.
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  71. People die on waiting lines in Canada. I gave the titles to a couple of papers on that.
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  72. Dying on wait lists is the same thing as being denied care.
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  73. Uh, that 45,000 deaths number. Here is the issue with that number. First from a Harvard professor " Katherine Baicker, a Harvard University health economics professor, echoed that it’s hard to get good evidence for a connection between lacking insurance and dying. The uninsured often earn less money than those who have insurance, she said, and poverty is associated with worse health. "So when you see that the uninsured have higher mortality, you don't know whether it is because they are uninsured or because they are lower income," Baicker said." What does that mean? Well, there are higher rates of obesity, type II diabetes and smoking with the poor. So did they die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? Also, 45,000 is a small number. 0.01% of the population. 30,000 die a year in traffic accidents, do we ban driving? No nation has that number at zero. People die in other nations due to lack of access to healthcare. You have to try much harder than that. It seems like you lack understanding in how complex healthcare really is.
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  74. The problem is you have to detect the cancer which countries in universal healthcare do not check for. That is why they have lower survival rates. Also, you can find horror stories like this in every country.
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  75. adam lane, I agree on the bankruptcy, but in other countries people die.
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  76. adam lane, we have the highest cancer survival rate in the world.
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  77. Except we do not have a free market system.
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  78. And? In other countries they have lower cancer survival rate. Also, he had no plan for retirement, that is his fault.
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  79. Andreas, even in other countries they would not do advanced testing to catch cancer early. That is why their cancer survival rate is so low.
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  80. Burg, that is not true.
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  81. Burg, that is why there are insurance companies. Many people can afford cancer treatment. If they are uninsured they are most likely poor and have many issues to begin with. Also, there is a strong correlation between being poor and being in bad health due to personal choices.
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  82. "People arent in bad health because of being poor. They are poor because they are in bad health.' There are higher rates of obesity, smoking and type II diabetes with those in poverty. Those are all issues that can be avoided with personal life choices.
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  83. " Poor people still shouldnt suffer just because they are poor. Besides, cancer can happen at random. It isnt like obesity and heart disease." Chances of cancer increase with bad health habits. Also, someone has to suffer. In other countries the very sick suffer. "If they got proper healthcare then most would make better life choices." How so? I see it as they will become leeches to the system. "What are you gonna do if you get in a car crash and obtain a six figure medical debt?" I have insurance.
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  84. Deez, I will cross that bridge when I get there.
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