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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Beware Of These Medicare For All Weasel Words" video.
The NHS has problems. Other nations have problems. You can't just point to those nations and say that it "works". It is a shallow argument.
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Kyle doesn't understand healthcare enough to dismantle any argument related to it.
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Welcome to politics. This is what they do and how they act. They say a lot of vague talking points with no specifics.
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Kyle does not understand Medicare for all, he really needs to stop talking about healthcare.
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@longn11 , most of what he says is deceptive at the very least. For example, he says that medicare for all will save money when there is no strong evidence for that. Another is that he is wrong on Medicare for all. Medicare for all will ban private insurance. Supplemental insurance is typically paid for out of pocket to begin with. It is forcing people to use the same healthcare system which is bringing people down. So if someone has a high quality healthcare insurance they will have to regress to Medicare. The reality is that healthcare is very complex. Saying medicare for all will cure all of our problems is over simplifying the issue. Kyle is ripping on this lady for "weasel words" when Bernie says things like healthcare should be a right, or "living wage", or "free to the point of service", etc. Those are weasel words as well. I can give more examples if you want. But the reality is that Kyle have a very shallow understanding of healthcare.
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@longn11 , take the issue of the teacher lying about a student being her son that Kyle brings up. That is fraud and stealing from the insurance company. Kyle said that was the right thing to do but let us expand that to 100,000 people? What if 100,000 people did that? Now what? Or in Medicare for all, what if a lot of people took more than they paid in? What if people who paid little taxes used healthcare more? Eventually the system will go bankrupt. These are issues Kyle completely ignores.
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@longn11 , that isn't what the study says. The study showed public spending and gave a number of $32 trillion over 10 years and said that was a low end. They said that chances are that it would cost much more. Also, that was just for public spending. If you include private spending the cost will be way up. And that study makes unrealistic assumptions like healthcare providers taking a 40% paycut. Bernie's plan outlaws private insurance. Supplemental care is typically paid for out of pocket to begin with. Healthcare is complex, the issue is that people like Kyle ignores the many studies on the issue from experts like Prof. Scott Atlas and his books, Prof. Katherine Baicker and her remarks, and Prof. Robert Ohsfeldt. He cites a study saying it is from Harvard or UMass but ignores other points from other respective experts. He is either being deceptive or simply ignorant.
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@longn11 , uh no, that isn't what the says. Also, you can't compare that to what is going on currently as both systems are completely different. So you can't say it will save money as it isn't that easy. And no system covers everyone as resources are limited. We should have a conversation, but in order to do so we have to look at the whole issue and both sides and not ignore one side like Kyle does. We do not have a free market system, we have a heavily regulated and subsidized system.
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@longn11 , how do I "keep arguing the facts"? I just pointed to three experts who disagree with a medicare for all system. I am simply saying that there are two sides to the argument and Kyle is not doing anyone any favors by completely dismissing one side.
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@Robert Gomez , yes, we have problems as well. There are arguments to be made that the US has less problems, or simply different problems that required different solutions.
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@Robert Gomez , not really a strong argument. Private healthcare can work in the free market. We don't have a free market system. Also, government has shown to have problems. Look at the Community Mental Health Act of 1963 and how it made that issue worse.
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@Robert Gomez ,we don't have a free market system. People have died in single payer systems as well, so what's your point?
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Kyle is a radical. I support a free market system with the states and local charities filling in the gaps. States can create a public option for basic care. It is a balance.
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The last thing we need in politics is a radical. The political left is radical and it is dividing our country. And Tapper's question is legit, people like their healthcare plans.
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Kyle claims it will save money and he bases that off of essentially nothing.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , this guy is a fake account. Check out his profile, it is someone else.
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@senhuangcai106 , what?
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I might learn to like you.
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@Eon-Blue , I would love to debate Kyle on the issue of healthcare. I read up on it a lot and find it interesting. He clearly has little idea about it.
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@henrygustav7948 , actually I do. You stop responding.
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@rexstout8177 , wait times are hard to calculated as every nation does it differently.
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