Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Report Exposes Disgusting Treatment Of Cancer Patients In US" video.

The US has the highest cancer survival rate in the world. It comes at a cost. Also, you are looking at the very extreme case in healthcare. Issues like these occur in all nations. Kyle is, once again, showing his ignorance on the issue of healthcare.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , how what?
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , he is presenting the idea that medicare for all will solve this problem where it won't. He is also ignoring the fact that other nations face very similar issues as well on extreme cases like this.
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@jtmv8915 , I love the Alex Jones level of conspiracy here of calling me a "paid troll".
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@jtmv8915 , ok, and? So recommending a book by an expert is me being a troll? Damn, what does that make your college professors?
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@yoholup19 , that is an issue. Overall cancer is the extreme case. Every nation has problems with cancer patients. Kyle is being intellectually dishonest by pointing this out and denying other nations have problems.
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@jtmv8915 , the fact you call me a troll pretty much discredits what you say. This is a problem with the far left, they claim their ideas are so great and their only argument is that if you disagree with them than you are either corrupt or simply trolling. As for my suicide comment, people that commit suicide have a lot of mental issues going on that drive them to do it. Many people face bankruptcy but don't kill themselves. I am not saying that suicide is great as it isn't, I have been there. My point is that those that do it have a far more complex issue going on than simply not being able to pay a bill.
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@jojoboko6990 , cancer is an extreme case in healthcare, that is well known. That is why so much research is done in it.
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@jojoboko6990 there is no cure
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Both are a commodity. Do you have an actual argument against what Shapiro said or are you just going to mock him?
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@Aaron-zn6wv someone has to provide it to thus, it is a commodity.
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@BattleDroid-sd4rp , food and housing are necessities as well. Why don't we give those away?
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@icemonkey5929 , someone has to provide it thus you can't make healthcare a right. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1126951/
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 , so is food and shelter. That still does not make it a right.
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Same if you try to implement the UK style of healthcare in the US, there will be a riot.
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@thepolticalone961 , uh, not really. Experts can argue either way. Both systems have advantages and disadvantages.
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@thepolticalone961 , one leads to lower quality where people suffer. It goes both ways.
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@dynamicworlds1 so me citing books by experts is me not willing to accept facts?
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@wfyfwfyf how do we have the worse outcomes? What do you base that off of? Read books by Stanford prof Scott Atlas on the issue on quality
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@dynamicworlds1 so ignore counter arguments?
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@wfyfwfyf life expectancy is influenced by many factors outside of healthcare. For example we have higher obesity rates in the us due to poor life style choices. Prof Katherine Baicker did an experiment in Oregon where people were given access to healthcare did not improve physically where they still had high chance of early deaths. This issue is complicated, you need to give me more details.
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@a_can_of_soda really? So you think we need more goverment to tell you not to drink soda?
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@wfyfwfyf , other nations simply live healthier lifestyles. As I said in that study by Katherine Baicker, when people were given Medicaid their physical health did not improve. Why? Because of their poor lifestyle. The questions becomes do they die due to lack of care or due to begin in bad health to begin with? When you are unhealthy with type II diabetes and obesity it compounds health issues. I agree, our healthcare costs are expensive, but there are a few points there. One, are quality is arguably higher than what the rest of the world has. Two, most of those high costs are due to government intervention.
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@wfyfwfyf , cancer is an extreme case to where even with preventative care available one can still get it. You are not making a valid comparison here. In other nations you die if you get cancer. As pointed out by Prof. Scott Atlas, we have higher survival rates compared to other nations.
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@jojoboko6990 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1212321 That does say that "This randomized, controlled study showed that Medicaid coverage generated no significant improvements in measured physical health outcomes in the first 2 years," It is clear that if you don't improve physically than your chances of dying are high. You are really being picky here. So are you saying that if you are obese you don't have a higher chance of dying? Are you saying ig you have high chlorestral you don't have a higher chance of dying? If you are saying that than you have no business discussing healthcare. Also, this https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/sep/06/alan-grayson-claims-45000-people-die-year-because-/ "Katherine Baicker, a Harvard University health economics professor, echoed that it’s hard to get good evidence for a connection between lacking insurance and dying. The uninsured often earn less money than those who have insurance, she said, and poverty is associated with worse health. "So when you see that the uninsured have higher mortality, you don't know whether it is because they are uninsured or because they are lower income," Baicker said." "In addition to Kronick’s skepticism, he pointed to a study of Oregon’s Medicaid experiment (which Baicker co-authored and PolitiFact looked at here) that found no significant improvement in health outcomes, including conditions like blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar, between a group of new Medicaid enrollees and uninsured Oregonians who could not get on the Medicaid rolls. "Like Kronick, I am a strong advocate of measures to achieve universal insurance coverage and would rather that Kronick’s study and the Oregon project provided evidence in support of my policy preference," he said. "But, as far as mortality is concerned, they just don’t."" You make this way too easy for me.
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@wfyfwfyf , wow, you went off on the deep end. To start, how am I an "idiot" when I am the one citing experts on this issue? Also, Prof. Gruber was the one who brought up the "useful idiot" point when creating Obamacare. Ever thought that those pushing for Medicare for all feel the same way? I am all for improving our system and I have ideas in how to do it. But when you simply call me an idiot for disagreeing with you that leads to zero progress. You rather shut down your opponent as opposed to having an actual discussion.
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Or the fact that she is literally a moron.
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